View Full Version : They're big in their mouth, but so was Iraq too
It's nothing wrong with Irans self confidence. The question is, are they fit for what they say, they can do?
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/iran-hit-35-us-bases-minutes/story?id=16716804
Markus
Ducimus
07-05-12, 12:47 PM
I don't think that's the game they want to play with us. We may not have as many missles as we used to, but its foregone conclusion we could reduce their entire country to cinders (let alone a few bases) at the push of a button if we really wanted to.
Betonov
07-05-12, 12:55 PM
They're bluffing. They may have the card but they're afraid to play it.
US would turn Iran into cinder (to quote Ducimus) and the cohones Iran has to boast around is due to the thought the US would be afraid to go into another prolonged war like Iraq and having Russia as ''friends''.
Iran can hit 35 US bases in minutes...
US can hit all of Irans bases (that they know of) in a matter of minutes, as well as all of their cities and infrastructure.
Who's going to win?
:hmmm:
I'm sure they could hit our bases. They might even cause a significant amount of damage too. After all they are located practically on Iran's doorstep.
I'd also think they will do it if they believe they can get away with it.
Spoon 11th
07-05-12, 01:22 PM
Who's going to win?:hmmm:
Military-industrial complex shareholders.
They've got a reminder either side of them just how well the US can dismantle a nations military, infrastructure and cities if it chooses to. So long as no-one falls into the trap of trying to put boots on the ground a sustained aerial bombing campaign over the space of a few months would set Irans plans back significantly, possibly even cause an Arab Spring style uprising if enough of the governments supporting base are removed.
It would need to be an all-in attack or not at all though, and I don't think those exist any more.
Military-industrial complex shareholders.
Touché :yep:
You are right, Iran may think this is some kind of poker game, but sooner or later USA or Israel will show their bluff.
I know exactly what's going to happen if and when USA and/or Isreal attack Iran
Iran is going to hide away most of it's military equipment. Iran will put up a weak fight, cause they know that they do not stand ONE week in a head to head with USA or Israel.
Iran sending every vessel they got against US Navy? No!
Iran sending every airfighter they got against US Navy/Airforce/Israel? No
That's way they are only bluffing.
Markus
Ducimus
07-05-12, 01:32 PM
Sorry, can't resist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQt5WPQTwN0
Takeda Shingen
07-05-12, 01:35 PM
Sorry, can't resist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQt5WPQTwN0
Technically, wouldn't Iran be the Eastwood character? The soldiers would be the figures of law and order.
Ducimus
07-05-12, 01:42 PM
I was thinking in terms of calling Irans bluff.
Takeda Shingen
07-05-12, 01:42 PM
I was thinking in terms of calling Irans bluff.
I know. Just yanking your chain.
I think Iran would be sensible enough to put everything deep underground in a manner which the DPRK is supposed to have done, obviously this isn't necessarily going to protect it all, depending on its depth. However US Spysat intel is pretty damn good, and they will be using all assets to detect movements into and out of these sites. So you can probably knock about 60% of them off the list. Then there's things you can't put underground, like their Kilos, nuclear power plant, infrastructure, cities, navy, some air defences, airfields. You can say goodbye to them.
The main problem here, and this is probably why the US hasn't already pre-empted Iran, aside from the obvious political and civilian backlash, is that rolling over Iran with an air-raid the likes of which the US hasn't done since Linebacker will only buy you time. Dinnerjacket (unless removed and replaced by Shah mk II) will still want his nukes, he will still have his friends in Russia and China who will get lucrative rebuilding contracts, and in about a decades time you'll be back to square one again with an Iran which is even better armed than before and which has used the interval to gain political support amongst both the world and the public of the US by painting the US as the aggressor and itself as the defenceless dove of the party.
Iran would be dumb to fire first, but there are some dumb people out there, and most of them are in politics...so you never can tell...
kraznyi_oktjabr
07-05-12, 02:02 PM
Sounds like typical "We are strong! WORLD BEWARE!!!" nonsense for internal consumption. Nothing new under the Sun.
TLAM Strike
07-05-12, 02:10 PM
In other news the IRGC is now fielding impressive new hat bill technology...
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2122/wtfhat.jpg
:timeout:
OMG their ball caps are decades ahead of ours! :o
OMG their ball caps are decades ahead of ours! :o
No they're not. They stole our ball cap bill technology!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7ngOXKmJagI/T8A9g6N8ZaI/AAAAAAAAEvA/uqv7LP1MzbI/s1600/john-wayne-cheetah-hatari.jpg
krashkart
07-05-12, 02:31 PM
Pah! They can steal all the ballcap bill technology they want. What would really raise my hackles is if they got their hands on our beer helmet technology. :timeout:
http://unknowncystic.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/beer-helmet.jpg
The zombies have reportedly already developed their own unique beer hat:
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4005/4296199577_e28c4f7672_m.jpg
Skybird
07-05-12, 07:27 PM
Their missiles I do not fear as lonmg as they do not have ABC warheads.
But the RG and especially their subordinate special and terror commands - these must be taken care of. Their ideological drill and fanatical religious motivation makes them tough and unscrupulous, their ways are hard to be stopped by conventional military. I have no doubt that Iran will try to strike back by terror attacks if given the chance. Not necessarily against military targets, but civilian ones. And likely not only in the region, but Europe as well.
I have met RG. Did not like what I saw in their eyes, not at all. I doubt it became better in the many years since then.
Almost all Iranians are fervent patriots. Old and young, male and female, soldier and civilian. If you think only Americans can exaggerate patriotism, think twice. ;)
I do not say we should be intimidated and fall back from the challenge. I say we should keep a very sharp eye on them. These fanatics of the RG are dangerous for sure. And worse: they know discipline.
Also do not underestimate Iranian engineers' talent for finding working improvisations. You are talking about the probably best-educated technical intelligentia in the Muslim world. Their modern society took great benefit from the European ionfluence that once as there. It shows in the strong Bildungsbürgertum that they had and that now only slowly seems to fade.
TLAM Strike
07-05-12, 07:45 PM
Their missiles I do not fear as lonmg as they do not have ABC warheads.
Well to go with the more modern term CBRN, the Iranians got the C, its child's play (or maybe Grad Student's Play) to get the B, they got the R, all that's left is the N.
With all those letters its starting to feel like Sesame Street around here... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWl8aeWpUxg)
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