View Full Version : Assange wants asylum from Ecuador!
He wants political asylum while running to the Ecuador Embassy!
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/19/12302374-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-seeks-asylum-in-ecuador?lite
Rockin Robbins
06-19-12, 11:38 PM
Wouldn't it be interesting if they granted it? His plan is just weird enough to succeed.:rotfl2:
Skybird
06-20-12, 02:53 AM
The Swedes he is right to not trust.
Jimbuna
06-20-12, 05:06 AM
This individual must be really desparate.
joegrundman
06-20-12, 05:18 AM
I guess he just doesn't believe that the Swedes would go to all this trouble for such a weak rape charge if that was all that was motivating them.
Betonov
06-20-12, 06:01 AM
Can't confirm it yet, it's just Facebook chatter but the scuttlebutt is that Ecuador has given the green light for asylum
If he comes out of the embassy he's going to get busted, he's breached his bail conditions.... :dead:
I'm not sure that Ecuador has much legal basis to grant asylum as the Swedish charges are criminal, not political. He's claiming that the US may do something if he's in Sweden, but why haven't they done anything whilst in the UK? They've had over 12 months to put something up but nothing has eventuated. Why wait until he's in Sweden if they have the evidence now?
From Forbes:
There is one part of the whole story which is really rather difficult to understand though. It’s not immediately obvious that Sweden is more likely to extradite him to the US than the UK is. The US/UK extradition treaty allows extradition upon reasonable suspicion as a number of people have found out. It also allows for extradition on the basis of crimes alleged to have been committed in the UK but being charged or tried in the US. There’s no evidence that Sweden’s extradition law is weaker in the protection of the rights of the accused than this.
It is also true that no extradition can or will be made from an EU country to a country that intends to seek the death penalty in any case. Prosecutors must drop that punishment option before any extradition can or will be agreed.
It’s the basic claim that Assange’s lawyers are making which is so confusing. What is it that makes anyone think that extradition from Sweden to the US will be any easier for US prosecutors than extradition from the UK?
BossMark
06-20-12, 06:42 AM
Lock him up and throw away the bloody key :yep:
joegrundman
06-20-12, 06:48 AM
I'm not sure that Ecuador has much legal basis to grant asylum as the Swedish charges are criminal, not political. He's claiming that the US may do something if he's in Sweden, but why haven't they done anything whilst in the UK? They've had over 12 months to put something up but nothing has eventuated. Why wait until he's in Sweden if they have the evidence now?
From Forbes:
in the event that assange's fears are justified, i think it is unlikely that the US intends at all to extradite him to the US.
But i think the US would put pressure on Sweden to find him guilty of the rape charge and make sure the prison sentence is long
Skybird
06-20-12, 07:03 AM
Assange has done great injury to US prestige. The US wants him, like they want Manning. In the US, Assange could be sentenced to death, possibly. The rape laws in Sweden are a bloody joke in some parts, women can file charges even over claims that they felt uncomfortable afterwards, that is absurd and one of the most idiotic laws I ever have heared of. The claimed victims did not file charges so far, which is the most dubious. The whole case smells and stinks and looks so rotten that most likely it is rotten. If anyone thinks that the Swedes want him for only questioning, than I feel sorry.
And no, I do not like the man. By what we learned about his character by former colleagues describing him, I must not like him at all. But I like what he did, and think we need more of that getting done, because governments lie, hide, betray and cheat. He ripped off some masks from the US's face, and by revealing the contrast between claim and reality, he earned the desire for revenge by those whom he hurt, and whose illusions he hurt.
Revenge is what it is about, plain and simple.
Jimbuna
06-20-12, 02:41 PM
Lock him up and throw away the bloody key :yep:
Only when he's in Sweden and they are footing his costs for board and lodgings.
Platapus
06-20-12, 05:33 PM
Somehow he needs to get from the Ecuadorian Embassy to an Airfield for a flight to Ecuador. That might be tricky.
TLAM Strike
06-20-12, 05:41 PM
Somehow he needs to get from the Ecuadorian Embassy to an Airfield for a flight to Ecuador. That might be tricky.
:hmmm:
Wrap him in shipping paper and write "Diplomatic Bag" on his forehead.
Oh wait its been done:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19591_6-most-ridiculous-abuses-diplomatic-immunity.html
check out #4.
I'm sure his aim is to stay out of Sweden regardless of what the US do.
Kongo Otto
06-21-12, 12:20 AM
I'm not sure that Ecuador has much legal basis to grant asylum as the Swedish charges are criminal, not political. He's claiming that the US may do something if he's in Sweden, but why haven't they done anything whilst in the UK? They've had over 12 months to put something up but nothing has eventuated. Why wait until he's in Sweden if they have the evidence now?
Spot on!
Let me say it in my own words: Do not lower your pants if not asked to and you do not need asylum in Ecuador!
Simple isn't it?
Even if Ecuador grants asylum, he'll get arrested as soon as he leaves their embassy so I'm not sure what he'll gain from this move anyway.
Jimbuna
06-21-12, 06:19 AM
Even if Ecuador grants asylum, he'll get arrested as soon as he leaves their embassy so I'm not sure what he'll gain from this move anyway.
Probably just buying as much freedom time as possible...he's certainly looking at a bleak future whichever way things eventually pan out.
Declare war on Ecuador then we can kick down their embassy door and drag is sorry ass off to the plane and get shot of him. Once done Declare peace with Ecuador. :D
Or Ecuador makes a fake science-fiction movie in pre-production and passes Assange off as a location scouter for the film company:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_caper
Just warms the cockles of my heart that they're actually making a movie about this, and not just some low-budget, made-for-TV onoe either.
In all seriousness, maybe the Ecuadorians, provided they do decide on granting him asylum, just fly a helicopter to the roof, take him to the airport with a plane on the tarmac and ready to go, and Assange saying "Adios"?
Jimbuna
06-22-12, 03:17 PM
Or Ecuador makes a fake science-fiction movie in pre-production and passes Assange off as a location scouter for the film company:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_caper
Just warms the cockles of my heart that they're actually making a movie about this, and not just some low-budget, made-for-TV onoe either.
In all seriousness, maybe the Ecuadorians, provided they do decide on granting him asylum, just fly a helicopter to the roof, take him to the airport with a plane on the tarmac and ready to go, and Assange saying "Adios"?
Great link but I sincerely hope it isn't that simple for Assange...he has history that needs to be investigated and judged upon.
kraznyi_oktjabr
06-22-12, 03:38 PM
Declare war on Ecuador then we can kick down their embassy door and drag is sorry ass off to the plane and get shot of him. Once done Declare peace with Ecuador. :DIf you want your embassy staff in Ecuador back home by FedEx then go ahead... :shifty:
If you want your embassy staff in Ecuador back home by FedEx then go ahead... :shifty:
With the RN on their door step they will think twice about it. :D :D
kraznyi_oktjabr
06-22-12, 03:57 PM
With the RN on their door step they will think twice about it. :D :DThey would did they know that vessel in question is actually armed. With today's RN chances are it just has guns and launchers but no ammo nor missiles. :O:
They would did they know that vessel in question is actually armed. With today's RN chances are it just has guns and launchers but no ammo nor missiles. :O:
We can drop David Cameron & Nick Clegg on them to screw up their country. :har:
joegrundman
06-22-12, 04:07 PM
that's a bit overkill, don't you think?
that's a bit overkill, don't you think?
What Cameron & Clegg? Far from it...:har:
The rest..Just joking. :haha:
Jimbuna
06-23-12, 07:14 AM
http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/julian-assange-i-give-you-private-information-abou1.jpg
http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/mark-zuckerberg-i-sell-your-private-information-to1.jpg
http://www.funnyphotos.net.au/images/mark-zuckerberg-i-sell-your-private-information-to1.jpg
Dumbo of the year more like, as Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan took him to the cleaners with their naked short selling when Face book was floated...He got spanked by bigger crooks. :haha:
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