Iranian submarine emerges from 4 yr refit

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err defit?

This boat is the Tareq, it looks like they removed the Anechoic Tiles like on the Yunis. Also this boat has the same cockeyed limber holes near the bow planes.

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[Agiel7]

What's up with the conning tower? Looks like they formed it the old-fashioned way with smithing hammers and anvils.

[CaptainMattJ.]

What's up with the conning tower? Looks like they formed it the old-fashioned way with smithing hammers and anvils.
i noticed it too. Its quite dimple-y

[Reece]

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Test dive tomorrow, hope those 18 virgins are ready!

[Halgarre]

Looking at this photo I get the feeling it's as silent as a AMC Gremlin going down a country road.

Are those patches on the side? :o Below the grill looking things. I agree on the conning tower, it looks like it has already been crush depth tested.:o

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[Herr_Pete]

Repainted abandoned Soviet Sub in my opinion lol

[Carthaginian]

Probably hard patches left after swapping engines or batteries or some other similarly heavy equipment. Still, I've seen quilts that looked like they were made out of less mismatched pieces. :haha:

[Hinrich Schwab]

Repainted abandoned Soviet Sub in my opinion lol

Well, it is a Kilo-class submarine. If it finished a 4-year refit, it is one of the three Russia sold them forever-and-a-day ago. From what I remember, all three of their Kilos were in a sore need for a refit. The pock-marked conning tower is almost certainly hull stress from decades of service. I wouldn't want to try to take that particular boat to 300 meters. :down:

[Reece]

What's with the guy in white on the left, seems to be suspended and what's his right hand doing?
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[Carthaginian]

Looks like he's diving into the drydock- holding his nose with one hand and keeping his... er, 'periscope' from being damaged with the other.

[Herr_Pete]

What's with the guy in white on the left, seems to be suspended and what's his right hand doing?
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haha I wondered about that photo too. Wasn't sure if he was having a little sly cigarette or something lol It didn't quite add up with the fact he is suspended in mid air though:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

What's with the guy in white on the left, seems to be suspended and what's his right hand doing?


Yeah, was going to ask the same question.

Could be a new secret weapon :)

[CaptainHaplo]

That has to be a photoshopped picture. Look close. He is jumping in oily, dirty water. Yet he is full clothed - in white no less, along with socks and shoes. The socks and shoes are a big give away - who goes swimming (of any type) intentionally with socks and shoes on? Also, look how close he appears to be to the walkway - its like he "stepped" off instead of jumped. However, if he did - he wouldn't have had time to get into the current position - his legs would still be in the act of coming together from a walking gait. Had he jumped to give himself the time needed to get into that position - he wouldn't be shown as that close to the walkway - he literally could lean his head back and break his skull on the way down.

Details make me call bull on that one.

[Rockin Robbins]

That is one fine-looking training target!:up:

[Herr-Berbunch]

That is bloody good photoshopping to get rid of all the others from this original!

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:D

[August]

That has to be a photoshopped picture. Look close. He is jumping in oily, dirty water. Yet he is full clothed - in white no less, along with socks and shoes. The socks and shoes are a big give away - who goes swimming (of any type) intentionally with socks and shoes on? Also, look how close he appears to be to the walkway - its like he "stepped" off instead of jumped. However, if he did - he wouldn't have had time to get into the current position - his legs would still be in the act of coming together from a walking gait. Had he jumped to give himself the time needed to get into that position - he wouldn't be shown as that close to the walkway - he literally could lean his head back and break his skull on the way down.

Details make me call bull on that one.

I'm pretty sure that those aren't socks and shoes but rather divers wet suit booties.

[gimpy117]

and why are we so scared of Iran Again?

[mookiemookie]

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[Herr-Berbunch]

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[TLAM Strike]

haha I wondered about that photo too. Wasn't sure if he was having a little sly cigarette or something lol It didn't quite add up with the fact he is suspended in mid air though:hmmm:
He is not suspened in mid air.

Someone hung him from a mooring cleat by the elastic of his underwear... :03:

[Hinrich Schwab]

This is one of those times I wish the Kaleun smilies had a "faceplam" option. :k_confused::doh:

[mapuc]

As some one wrote a nice practice target and i think it is.

I do not see any problems for the US's ASW to find and perhaps if needed sink her.

However a well trained and determined crew, could get so near a CVBG that she can deliever a few eels against the Carrier, before she is detected or manege to disappear.

I Have very little knowledge about the US's ASW-doctrine, but I believe that they do NOT underestimate any threat.

Markus

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

As some one wrote a nice practice target and i think it is.

I do not see any problems for the US's ASW to find and perhaps if needed sink her.

However a well trained and determined crew, could get so near a CVBG that she can deliever a few eels against the Carrier, before she is detected or manege to disappear.

I Have very little knowledge about the US's ASW-doctrine, but I believe that they do NOT underestimate any threat.

MarkusTaking into consideration that in 2006 during an exercise Chinese SSK surfaced with in firing range from USS Kitty Hawk (CV-62), escorted by several surface vessels and at my understanding by two SSNs, I wouldn't put my bet on that.

Also in my undertanding that boat managed to slip away after it was noticed...

[Jimbuna]

The RAN has a gallery of images taken from very close range, what they call an "underwater look", of the hull, screws and rudder of almost every class of US carrier, a tradition that started with the Oberons and continues with the Collins class today supposedly.

In another exercise the SSK Gotland was credited with the simulated sinking of the U.S.S Ronald Reagan -CVN-76.

[Herr-Berbunch]

In another exercise the SSK Gotland was credited with the simulated sinking of the U.S.S Ronald Reagan -CVN-76.

Didn't the USN 'rent' the Gotland for a while, to test?

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Didn't the USN 'rent' the Gotland for a while, to test?:yep:

[Jimbuna]

Didn't the USN 'rent' the Gotland for a while, to test?

Not quite...they were on a twelve month deployment tasked to assist the US in various exercises.


“We are deployed here for at least one year and will conduct up to 160 training days at sea, supporting strike groups, individual ships and rescue submarines, and participating in the tests and development of new equipment,” Ostbring said.

“The main purpose of adding the third dimension of a small, conventional submarine into these exercises is to help to enhance the U.S. Navy’s capabilities of detecting small submarines close to shore, and at the same time, we are getting better at operating both with and against large ships that we are not used to operating with,” he added.

A small number of U.S. Navy personnel routinely embark as riders and observers aboard Gotland and, in turn, the U.S. Navy also provides embarks aboard U.S. Navy vessels to Swedish Sailors. These embarks allow them a firsthand look at the day-to-day operations of a ship at sea.

[Marcantilan]

I think the boat has a "sail" not a "conning tower".

In the other hand, I don´t think a Kilo class sub, even older, could be underestimated, more if she is operating in the Persian Gulf.

[TLAM Strike]

I think the boat has a "sail" not a "conning tower".

In the other hand, I don´t think a Kilo class sub, even older, could be under underestimated, more if she is operating in the Persian Gulf.
On a Russian boat its called a 'fin'.

But it is highly doubtful that the Iranian's would operate their Kilos in the Gulf. There are large portions of the Gulf where the depths don't exceed periscope depth and others where it is only as deep as the length of the submarine. Their Ghadir class submarines are intended for orientations in the Gulf (hence the submarine tunnels at IRGCN bases in the Gulf), while the Kilos are meant for operations in the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea (there is an Iranian naval base under construction/expansion near the border of Pakistan that is believed to be the new Kilo base).

[Hinrich Schwab]

On a Russian boat its called a 'fin'.

But it is highly doubtful that the Iranian's would operate their Kilos in the Gulf. There are large portions of the Gulf where the depths don't exceed periscope depth and others where it is only as deep as the length of the submarine. Their Ghadir class submarines are intended for orientations in the Gulf (hence the submarine tunnels at IRGCN bases in the Gulf), while the Kilos are meant for operations in the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea (there is an Iranian naval base under construction/expansion near the border of Pakistan that is believed to be the new Kilo base).

This nautical map shows the Straits of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman.

http://www.oceangrafix.com/chart/detail/62392-Strait-of-Hormuz

The map clearly shows a "submarine training area" northeast of the shipping lanes, placing it in striking position of commercial shipping. The map doesn't show the naval base at Bandar-e Abbas, where the Kilos are currently based at. Google Maps clearly shows a Kilo docked there...along with a good portion of the Iranian Navy.:haha:

[Hinrich Schwab]

In the other hand, I don´t think a Kilo class sub...

It is. Seen enough pictures of them. Iran doesn't have any other types of subs besides its collection of midget subs and the three Kilos.

[Marcantilan]

It is. Seen enough pictures of them. Iran doesn't have any other types of subs besides its collection of midget subs and the three Kilos.

Yes, she is a Kilo class.

My point is that a Kilo class, even old, is still a formidable foe.

Regards,

[TLAM Strike]

This nautical map shows the Straits of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman.

http://www.oceangrafix.com/chart/detail/62392-Strait-of-Hormuz

The map clearly shows a "submarine training area" northeast of the shipping lanes, placing it in striking position of commercial shipping. The map doesn't show the naval base at Bandar-e Abbas, where the Kilos are currently based at. Google Maps clearly shows a Kilo docked there...along with a good portion of the Iranian Navy.:haha:

:hmm2:

Edition Date: 2001-12-22

:smug:

You are going to base that assessment on a 10 year old chart? ;)

The new IRGCN submarine base in the Gulf is located at +26° 43' 9.68", +55° 58' 21.65" (The IRIN does not base their Kilos out of here)

The new Iranian naval base under construction (for a while now :haha: ) is at Chabahar.

[Hinrich Schwab]

:hmm2:



:smug:

You are going to base that assessment on a 10 year old chart? ;)

The new IRGCN submarine base in the Gulf is located at +26° 43' 9.68", +55° 58' 21.65" (The IRIN does not base their Kilos out of here)

The new Iranian naval base under construction (for a while now :haha: ) is at Chabahar.

It seems that no mtter how hard I try, I make a damn fool of myself.:damn: