Ubi messed up naval battles on Assassin's Creed 3

[bossfrog]

Anyone look at the naval combat trailer for AC3? Ubi screwed up. They got the banking of the ships backward. When large sail ships turn left, they bank to the right. When they turn right, they bank to the left. They're not like motorboats... or airplanes. :nope:

[TarJak]

Anyone look at the naval combat trailer for AC3? Ubi screwed up. They got the banking of the ships backward. When large sail ships turn left, they bank to the right. When they turn right, they bank to the left. They're not like motorboats... or airplanes. :nope::down:

Well that entirely depends on which way the wind is blowing. The tend to "bank" in the direction their sails are being pushed.

[bossfrog]

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Well that entirely depends on which way the wind is blowing. The tend to "bank" in the direction their sails are being pushed.

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Not quite right. The wind direction can have an effect IF it is strong enough and blowing from just the right direction. But the ship's natural tendency is to bank to the outside due to the inertia of the heavy sails themselves. The reason a motorboat banks to the inside is because the stern is being pushed to the outside with much greater force, causing the hull to sort of slide outside of the center of gravity, resulting in an inward bank.

With a large sail ship, a strong wind may decrease the amount by which it banks to the outside, but simple physics dictate that it will still tend to bank outward. If the wind is strong enough to prevent an outward bank altogether, you are likely going to retract the sails anyway.

Now smaller sailboats and yachts, like I'm sure you're used to seeing in Sydney Harbour, can bank inward with the wind quite often because they have less inertia. But not so much with the large sail ships of centuries past.

[TarJak]

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Not quite right. The wind direction can have an effect IF it is strong enough and blowing from just the right direction. But the ship's natural tendency is to bank to the outside due to the inertia of the heavy sails themselves. The reason a motorboat banks to the inside is because the stern is being pushed to the outside with much greater force, causing the hull to sort of slide outside of the center of gravity, resulting in an inward bank.

With a large sail ship, a strong wind may decrease the amount by which it banks to the outside, but simple physics dictate that it will still tend to bank outward. If the wind is strong enough to prevent an outward bank altogether, you are likely going to retract the sails anyway.

Now smaller sailboats and yachts, like I'm sure you're used to seeing in Sydney Harbour, can bank inward with the wind quite often because they have less inertia. But not so much with the large sail ships of centuries past.

I've sailed in both square rigged ships and ocean going yachts over 30m and I can assure you that I'm right. In light winds larger ships, particularly square riggers do not bank either way much at all. You can think what you like. Not that it matters much. It is an UBI game we are talking about here after all, so I expect something to be borked anyway.

[bossfrog]

I've sailed in both square rigged ships and ocean going yachts over 30m and I can assure you that I'm right. In light winds larger ships, particularly square riggers do not bank either way much at all. You can think what you like. Not that it matters much. It is an UBI game we are talking about here after all, so I expect something to be borked anyway.

I'm telling you, in 1971, when I was 15, my parents and I had the chance to take a "cruise" if you will on a large windjammer from Chicago to Sturgeon Bay, and further out on the lake, they demonstrated how agile the ship could really be if called upon to do so, and that ship unquestionably banked to the outside of those turns, regardless whether it was left or right. I'm no liar.

[TarJak]

I've never insinuated that you are a liar. I merely pointed out a fact of physics, that it depends on the wind and whether you are tacking, gybing (or wearing in square riggers), reaching or beating when you turn. Quite frankly, I couldn't give a rats clacker about arguing further. Good day to you sir.