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Skybird
06-07-12, 11:15 AM
It's once again about to start. Place your bets here.
I have no clue this time whom I should see as favourites.
German team has shown great potential, and is seen by many as the top favourite this time. On paper, their setup is almost optimal on every position, with optimal setups for second lineups as well. But I am not sure, the preparation was not running optimal, it seems to me. There are some weaknesses in the team. The Bavarian players suffered a triple moral KO this season, with their unfortunate defeat in the Champions League being a real soul killer. Let'S see if they can forget it, or get effected by it.
Could be that Germany enters the main round. Could very well be. But I do not share the blind enthusiasm there is. I also see a solid chance that they already fail in the first round. Indeed I rate the chances of advancing to the next round only 55:45 or 60:40.
Really, have no clue on what to think of the Germans, or the other teams this time. But I have Holland on my list. Not sure about Spain and Portugal. England - no, not this time, I think. France - so-la-la. Italy - well. Do they play or withdraw?
Saw a documentary of corruption in sport bets recently. I knew it was bad, but not that it was THAT bad. The yearly total being moved is estmated in the range of minimum 200 billion, maximum 2 trillion. :o Major football matches probbaly do not get manipulated, thoiugh, because too many cameras film the match and too easily unwanted evidence could get recorded. It is a giant money washing machine for the organised crime and corrupt business.
BossMark
06-07-12, 11:29 AM
I have no clue this time whom I should see as favourites.
Spain
11/4
3/1
Germany
6/1
Holland
10/1
France
12/1
England
14/1
Italy
20/1
Portugal
20/1
Russia
50/1
Ukraine
50/1
Poland
50/1
Czech Republic
50/1
Croatia
66/1
Sweden
66/1
Greece
80/1
Republic of Ireland
100/1
Denmark
William hill prices
I have as favorite
1. Germany(have always been my favorite team)
2. Holland(Same here love their offensive stile)
Markus
BossMark
06-07-12, 11:40 AM
And for those that dont know here are the groups with the first match to KO at 5.PM tomorrow
Group A
Poland
Russia
Greece
Czech Republic
Group B (the group of death)
Holland
Germany
Denmark
Portugal
Group C
Spain
Republic Of Ireland
Italy
Croatia
Group D
England
France
Sweden
Ukraine
Penguin
06-07-12, 11:41 AM
Germany
This time it's time to beat those pesky Spanish, would be an appropriate revenge for 2010 and 2008.
I think overall Löw showed a good hand in building up a fresh team, which learned to play together. I still see much enthusiasm with them, the will to kick ass and finally win a title is definitely there.
I do not give any dime for Portugal, we are going to be smash...
I am going to see every football match
Markus
Herr-Berbunch
06-07-12, 12:53 PM
Everyone in England is saying we've no expectations this time round so there is no pressure.
If there is no pressure then I expect them to do well.
But that is again pressure!
Sod it. Quarter-finals against the eventual winners, penalties. Has a nice, familiar ring to it. :hmmm:
Here in Denmark, there are not so many who expect that the Danish national team will proceed from the initial round. So if the-got kicked out, the Danes will not be disappointed. Should they on other hand, proceed then you can count on EM-fever will increase
The newspapers have already predicted the outcome of Denmark's matches
Germany = zero point / one point
Holland = Zero point / one point
Portugal = three points
Markus
Skybird
06-07-12, 03:11 PM
Paul the octopus meanwhile has died, but Yvonne the cow hopes to channel him.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/yvonne-the-cow-to-become-oracle-at-european-football-championship-a-837614.html
Germany, I think. Spain remain a good side, but I suspect the bubble might have burst. I'm supporting Italy myself, but they are mired in so much rubbish just now I don't know if they will even qualify from the group.
And England.....I don't know why but I just have this feeling that if it isn't Germany it will be England.
Jimbuna
06-07-12, 03:28 PM
It is often said and I agree that Holland are the best team never to have won the world cup so I hope they win.
If not then I believe it will be Spain or Germany.
I don't give England much chance at all and frankly wouldn't be suprised if they fail to get to the knockout stage.
There is a certain national tv selling company who are offering a Ł10 refund to people who purchase a tv for each goal England scores during the tournament...that just about sums it up for me.
[QUOTE=jimbuna;1894707
I don't give England much chance at all and frankly wouldn't be suprised if they fail to get to the knockout stage.
There is a certain national tv selling company who are offering a Ł10 refund to people who purchase a tv for each goal England scores during the tournament...that just about sums it up for me.[/QUOTE]
And that's why I've got this feeling about them...there's been this weird malaise about England in the media and in the public...I can't explain it. Is it the new manager, is it the Terry/Ferdinand thing? I don't know, All I know is with the relative lack of expectations - the least I remember, in fact - they might just get to the final, and then it's anyones guess.
Jimbuna
06-07-12, 06:39 PM
And that's why I've got this feeling about them...there's been this weird malaise about England in the media and in the public...I can't explain it. Is it the new manager, is it the Terry/Ferdinand thing? I don't know, All I know is with the relative lack of expectations - the least I remember, in fact - they might just get to the final, and then it's anyones guess.
More chance of Scotland reaching the knockout stages of a world cup :O:
:03:
Do not know how things stand with your newspaper and its sports section. according to the Swedish newspapers' sports section, they may as well give the trophy to Sweden. The same is also the case in the Danish newspapers
Markus
Falkirion
06-07-12, 10:13 PM
Well if this octopus was still alive, he'd be able to tell you the winner. He was 100% correct when picking Germany's match ups in the last world cup.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/177945/WORLD-CUP-OCTOPUS-PAUL-GERMANY.jpg
RIP Paul the psychic octopus.
antikristuseke
06-07-12, 10:44 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Germany!
BossMark
06-08-12, 12:46 AM
My predictions for today's games
Poland 2 Greece 0
Russia 1 Czech Republic 1
Tribesman
06-08-12, 01:17 AM
I predict that Ireland are going to play, for a while anyway.
Jimbuna
06-08-12, 12:22 PM
Well if this octopus was still alive, he'd be able to tell you the winner. He was 100% correct when picking Germany's match ups in the last world cup.
RIP Paul the psychic octopus.
I'm bloody pleased nobody has advertised an English specimen :DL
BossMark
06-08-12, 01:24 PM
My predictions for today's games
Poland 2 Greece 0
Well I got that bugger wrong :damn:
Jimbuna
06-08-12, 02:59 PM
History teaches us that the opening game in major tournaments usually ends in a draw :smug:
Mind you, I never placed a bet :damn:
Well I got that bugger wrong :damn:
In a way, you were right, so to say. It was the outcome that was reversed
Markus
BossMark
06-09-12, 02:05 AM
Lets see if I can do better today :DL
Holland 3 Denmark 0
Germany 2 Portugal 1
This is one of the few tournaments that you'll find me actually hoping England can win. Mind you I don't like their chances this time around. Germany, Holland, Spain and even Greece look more likely in my book.
Jimbuna
06-09-12, 05:17 AM
Two draws today.
BossMark
06-09-12, 07:37 AM
Two draws today.
Just put on a Ł20 double Holland and Germany to win
Just put on a Ł20 double Holland and Germany to win
I'd say that was safe money.
Jimbuna
06-09-12, 07:46 AM
Just put on a Ł20 double Holland and Germany to win
Probably short odds but good luck...a win is a win.
BossMark
06-09-12, 07:56 AM
Probably short odds but good luck...a win is a win.
Got 5\2 with sky bet win Ł50 hopefully
Jimbuna
06-09-12, 08:05 AM
Got 5\2 with sky bet win Ł50 hopefully
Not a bad price for a 'certainty'...not that I believe in them...France v Brazil world cup final etc. :DL
VipertheSniper
06-09-12, 09:24 AM
5/2?? I got 3,38/1 for that bet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FEP-M9Svuzk
russian "fans" (actually, the plural of sabaka should be the word) beating a Polish steward in Wroclaw after the game.
Oh btw, they want to celebrate their national holiday on the 12th by "marching" to the stadium. The permission has already been granted so as not to deteriorate our political relationships. So, in that case, I just hope the Polish police will have real ammo in their shotguns.
More chance of Scotland reaching the knockout stages of a world cup :O:
:03:
Haw! The way things are now we'd finish third in a group that only had us in it.
Holland and Denmark to draw 2-2. Germany to win 3-0.
antikristuseke
06-09-12, 11:18 AM
I have my money on both the dutch bastards and wonderful germans winning their games.
Germany 3 - 0 Portugal, with luck for us... If not, I pay a beer to everyone here.
BossMark
06-09-12, 12:52 PM
Oh bugger that's another bet that bites the dust :damn:
Is the Germany game on the BBC? I can't get ITV HD and the BBC HD looks amazing.
BossMark
06-09-12, 01:03 PM
Is the Germany game on the BBC? I can't get ITV HD and the BBC HD looks amazing.
Yes its on BBC HD
Oh bugger that's another bet that bites the dust :damn:
Ohh well, better luck next time.
It seems that what ever you predict the result is the opposite
So Germany is gonna lose tonight :wah:
Markus
Yes its on BBC HD
Sweet. Looking forward to this game. I think it will be a cracker.
Jimbuna
06-09-12, 03:50 PM
Oh bugger that's another bet that bites the dust :damn:
LOL never mind you've got plenty left :DL
Germany win 1-0
Schroeder
06-09-12, 04:02 PM
Lucky victory for us the Portuguese definitely had their chances to win this.
Can I just say, Cristiano Ronaldo, I hate him. I hate him sooo much. He's my arch enemy. He doesn't know he's my arch enemy, but he is. I hate him more than Robbie Savage, and that's saying something. He's a singularity made of pure evil.
Anyway, now that's out of my system. Tomorrow we have Spain V Italy.
Forza Azzurri!
Hopefully we'll get a good game.
Jimbuna
06-09-12, 04:36 PM
That all depends on which Spain team turns up for the match because they are stronger/superior in every department.
Should be a good match though.
That all depends on which Spain team turns up for the match because they are stronger/superior in every department.
Should be a good match though.
Naah, they're on the turn..:DL I'm supposed to be getting tickets for the Spain v Japan game in the Olympics. Might be fun. They've only sold about 4 so far.
Jimbuna
06-09-12, 04:52 PM
Naah, they're on the turn..:DL I'm supposed to be getting tickets for the Spain v Japan game in the Olympics. Might be fun. They've only sold about 4 so far.
LOL I'd have thought that had the makings of an interesting game too :DL
Skybird
06-09-12, 05:22 PM
Lucky win for Germany after a boring match. If they really want to go for the title, they have to improve, and very much so.
The chance that led to the German goal was not made from the flow of the match, but emerged luckily and somewhat accidentally. But I admit the way Gomez hammered that ball into the net with his head was sensational.
The rest of the match was not good, with Madame Fortuna being all too gentle on the Germans. The Portos could have won by two or three goals as well.
---
Holland lost. That means their match against the Germans will be additonally spiced up beyond the inevitable usual rivalry. Gladfully both teams' fans are not known to be of the ugly kind, else it would be a nasty event.
Lord_magerius
06-09-12, 05:54 PM
I definitely agree about the boring game there Skybird, that has to be the worst I've seen the German team play in years. I was worried for Neuer at one point though, such a horrific tackle, I'm surprised he kept the leg. My thoughts are with his family and friends at this difficu... Oh wait he's fine :O:
Portugal showed us their usual start to a tournament and showed what individual skill they have, now if only they could pair that up with teamwork and a defence that communicated better.
The only thing that annoyed me about the Denmark v Netherlands game is that all my friends, who said yesterday that they would destroy Denmark haven't been available for me to wind them up :haha: It was a well deserved victory for the Danes, I just love their playing style when they get into a full attack. They don't have the most technically gifted squad but damn they try :D
As for England on Monday, I'm thinking 0-0 or 1-1, can't see us taking anything more than a draw at the moment. Once we start getting some passes together and getting the team working we should pick up. After the two friendlies, though solid defensively we seemed a bit weak in midfield and up front. We need to get out of the "1, 2, hoof it up to the striker" style of play, or else we're going to get destroyed this tournament.
Anywho that's just my two cents. I'd completely forgot how to use a laptop I've been away so long :O:
Fantastic play by Russia so far, Denmark played very well and Portugal "Ohlala".
Germany, I don*t know, I don't have a good feeling this time. So I went to town today and bought the very retro German green away jersey which is the away colour again like in the past; a little bit of vodoo. Hope it helps.
Could be a keeper, or the "loser" shirt.
As usually, I have bet on England to win the cup. Let's see how this turns out.
BossMark
06-10-12, 01:15 AM
:hmmm:Let me see law of averages says I will get one right :yep:
Spain 3 Italy 1
Republic Of Ireland 1 Croatia 1
And will go and say my old mate Robbie Keane to score the 1st goal
Jimbuna
06-10-12, 10:40 AM
As usually, I have bet on England to win the cup. Let's see how this turns out.
You should have given your money to me to buy drink and at least you'd have got a toast to your good health :DL
http://www.thepunch.com.au/images/uploads/henri_kids_sad.jpg
well played Croatia :yeah:
Tchocky
06-10-12, 04:09 PM
BAH
*weeps into his beer*
I'm still upset about losing to the All Blacks yesterday. This is just the cherry on top.
BossMark
06-11-12, 02:21 AM
Here we go lets see how wrong I can get this
Frogs 1 England 2 (lets just hope that the French have got there surrender heads on)
Ukraine 2 Sweden 1
kraznyi_oktjabr
06-11-12, 05:01 AM
Here we go lets see how wrong I can get this
Frogs 1 Hooligans 2 (lets just hope that the French have got there surrender heads on)
Ukraine 2 Sweden 1Fixed for ya! :O:
Jimbuna
06-11-12, 05:26 AM
My heart says England for the win but reality dictates I'd settle for a draw.
Not bothered about the fact Rooney isn't playing because he was goalless in the last world cup.
Sweden to win 1-0
BossMark
06-11-12, 05:49 AM
Not bothered about the fact Rooney isn't playing because he was goalless in the last world cup.
Gerrard to score the first goal :hmmm:
Here we go lets see how wrong I can get this
Frogs 1 England 2 (lets just hope that the French have got there surrender heads on)
Ukraine 2 Sweden 1
I'm gonna use your prediction in my betting.
France-England 2-1
Ukraine-Sweden 1-2
The result of your prediction turned out to be the opposite of what you predict.
Markus
So that's the result I'm going to bet on
BossMark
06-11-12, 06:45 AM
I'm gonna use your prediction in my betting.
France-England 2-1
Ukraine-Sweden 1-2
The result of your prediction turned out to be the opposite of what you predict.
Markus
So that's the result I'm going to bet on
Good luck with that, as the way my luck is going at the moment when I return back to work in a couple of weeks time I will be begging them for overtime as I will be bloody skint :damn:
Skybird
06-11-12, 06:51 AM
Spain - Italy yesterday: that was fun to watch! Open helmet visors by both of them.
Aye. It was a good game. Italy are looking not too bad at all.
Like the look of Croatia too. Really, really, really wishing we hadn't had to sell Jelavic to Everton.....:nope:
Nice England goal, there. Can they go the distance, though?
Lovely equaliser there. Edward Woodward would have been proud.
I didn't make any bet, was late to my local store,
Markus
Skybird
06-11-12, 02:11 PM
England-France: Boredom Award. :down:
England-France: Boredom Award. :down:
Was it? I missed most of it. I've a gastric bug so I kept falling asleep. Woke up for the goals and that was about it. Doesn't Hodgson look like a slightly perturbed owl, though?
Skybird
06-11-12, 02:57 PM
Was it? I missed most of it. I've a gastric bug so I kept falling asleep. Woke up for the goals and that was about it. Doesn't Hodgson look like a slightly perturbed owl, though?
I think both teams used the break to negotiate a result of accepting the draw and not playing the second seriously anymore... Yes, I think it was a very boring game. Big team names, small performance.
Well, the Sweden v Ukraine game has been pretty good. Quite enjoyed listening to it.
England-France: Boredom Award. :down:
Did we really expect anything else?
England have their moments, but they're quite flash in the pan. The orangutan was on the bench so he couldn't head-butt his way through the French, and the French team, while better than the one that was in the last World Cup, is still in disarray. I had the French down to win 2-1 in the second half but our goalie seems to be on his game.
All rather reminiscent of the World Cup though where most England games consisted of missed opportunity after missed opportunity.
Still, it's all good fun, fun to listen to the commentators rip Englands performance apart on Radio Five Live :yeah: Pretty much the only reason I listen to it! :haha:
Here we go lets see how wrong I can get this
Frogs 1 England 2 (lets just hope that the French have got there surrender heads on)
Ukraine 2 Sweden 1
Thumbs up
You were right on one of them
Markus
Jimbuna
06-11-12, 03:53 PM
Not a bad result for England against France but the Ukraine result puts them firmly in the group driving seat.
I spoke on the Real Radio Legends programme tonight and Supermac agreed with my point that England appear organised at the back but are lacking in attack and so predictable.
http://www.realradionortheast.co.uk/shows/the-real-radio-legends/2f659
BossMark
06-12-12, 04:27 AM
Yeah I got one right at last :D
Today's games
Greece 1 Czech Republic 1
Poland 0 Russia 3
Poland 0 Russia 3
:har::har::har:
My bet: 2-1
BossMark
06-12-12, 05:04 AM
:har::har::har:
My bet: 2-1
Good luck but Russia is the best team so far in this tournament, either that or the Czechs were piss poor :hmmm:
Jimbuna
06-12-12, 06:10 AM
Thus far I've yet to see a tournament with such low refereeing standards.
Good luck but Russia is the best team so far in this tournament, either that or the Czechs were piss poor :hmmm:
well, writing 2-1 was my patriotic duty.:)
Taking into consideration the aggressive Russian game style, I doubt we can even hope for a draw.
I was impressed by the 4-1 score, but I think it's the Czechs' poor condition rather than a Russian mastery.
The Polish team is now regarded as the weakest but we definitely were the prevailing side during the first half against Greece. But obviously it's not the performance etc which counts but the final score.
There is a saying, that one plays as good as his opponent lets him.
looking forward to the Poland-Russia game.
In other news, my team died today after 140 years. Rangers Football Club. 1872-2012. RIP.
I'm sure they will return as some new-co. It won't be the same, though. I also hope that all the people who oversaw this massive travesty get what's coming to them. David Murray, Craig Whyte and the rest of you, I hope you all go to jail for fraud.
BossMark
06-12-12, 12:59 PM
In other news, my team died today after 140 years. Rangers Football Club. 1872-2012. RIP.
I'm sure they will return as some new-co. It won't be the same, though. I also hope that all the people who oversaw this massive travesty get what's coming to them. David Murray, Craig Whyte and the rest of you, I hope you all go to jail for fraud.
Yes as a Leeds fan I have also followed Rangers for many years making the trip to Ibrox on a few occasions. very sad indeed.
Yes as a Leeds fan I have also followed Rangers for many years making the trip to Ibrox on a few occasions. very sad indeed.
Cheers, mate. It's a heartbreaker. But it's mismanagement on a scale that very few clubs have ever experienced.
Time to by an Inverness Cally shirt, I think. Or maybe a Ross County one since my brother works for their owner.
Did anyone else not see this coming? No? Just the Polish government then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18409776
Did anyone else not see this coming? No? Just the Polish government then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18409776
I think they did. why they allowed the march to go ahead is a mystery to me. The Russian fans have been involved in several unsavory incidents already.
BossMark
06-12-12, 02:23 PM
Did anyone else not see this coming? No? Just the Polish government then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18409776
UEFA will probably blame it on the English :yep:
why they allowed the march to go ahead is a mystery to me.
I explained it in one of my previous posts. Politics...
Shame, not football, and sports walk with the ball. Poland does not win this stupidity.:damn: Now the fans a show. :rock:
Political demonstrations in a foreign country's capital are asking for trouble, especially if you parade with forbidden symbols.
coming back to football: a well-deserved draw.
Let's talk football please.
Tomorrow, The Netherlands vs. Deutschland
A rose is a rose is a rose.
Btw, why do Dutch kids have jug ears?
That is because their parents hold them up so that they can look over the dyke to see where the the World champion is living (1974).
"Netherlands : Germany 1:2":arrgh!:
If the Dutch team does not score three goals, they will lose, I say,
Bring it on, please.
Hopefully the match between Holland and Germany will be great match and not like the one between England and France.
My prediction for todays two matches
Denmark-Portugal 0-2
(Denmark didn't show much last time. It was a lucky goal they got against Holland)
Holland-Germany 2-3
(My two favorite team in the tournament, so I hope the best team win. Germany showed more last game than Holland did)
That was the 5-cent football analysis
Markus
Jimbuna
06-12-12, 05:25 PM
Poland were the best team on the night and unlucky not to win in the end.
It is possible both Portugal and the Netherlands will exit the competition tomorrow.
Skybird
06-12-12, 05:51 PM
By how the German team qualified for the tournament, and how they dissected the Dutch last year, and how the Dutch are under pressure already, I would say: fabulous victory for Germany.
By how the German final preparation for the tournament went in past weeks, and how they played against Portugal, I would say: a draw, maybe even a narrow defeat.
In other words: I have no idea about today's match' outcome. :D
Some of the German players were not fit against Portugal, especially Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Podolski. But Löw will sort that out the more time he stays in the tournament. The Germans will increase in fitness if they stay in the tournament.
By how the German team qualified for the tournament, and how they dissected the Dutch last year, and how the Dutch are under pressure already, I would say: fabulous victory for Germany.
By how the German final preparation for the tournament went in past weeks, and how they played against Portugal, I would say: a draw, maybe even a narrow defeat.
In other words: I have no idea about today's match' outcome. :D
Some of the German players were not fit against Portugal, especially Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Podolski. But Löw will sort that out the more time he stays in the tournament. The Germans will increase in fitness if they stay in the tournament.
Bla, Bla, Bla
A draw?, Néver. Either red or dead.
Turbonegro - Just Flesh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHhvyMaSAEU)
BossMark
06-13-12, 01:30 AM
Today's games
Holland 3 Germany 2
Denmark 1 Portugal 2
But the Germany Holland game is betting with my heart not my head :yep:
Kongo Otto
06-13-12, 01:50 AM
Did anyone else not see this coming? No? Just the Polish government then?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18409776
I think they did. why they allowed the march to go ahead is a mystery to me. The Russian fans have been involved in several unsavory incidents already.
First of all those are not Football fans, those are stupid rowdies, not more and not less.
We have about 30.000 Russians and also Polish people living in Augsburg and there were no beatings in the Public viewing area during the game.
Real Football fans don't beat the snot out of each other!
Kongo Otto
06-13-12, 01:55 AM
Today's games
Holland 3 Germany 2
Denmark 1 Portugal 2
But the Germany Holland game is betting with my heart not my head :yep:
I think Germany wins but i'm really not sure about the Danish team, i tend more to an Denmark 1 :Portugal 1.
Skybird
06-13-12, 05:38 AM
If Germany wins:
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9146/2carob9dk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/2carob9dk.jpg/)
:D
from: "Der Tagesspiegel"
German media reported though that some minutes ago Löw was totally furious about what the players performed during final training. He broke off. Statistically, Germany fumbles very often in the second match of tournaments, they also write. Almost a tradition, they claim.
If the Dutch band of egoists can find together, then I think they win. If they remain to be a band of primadonnas, they probably will not.
I have changed my mind today:
both teams score at least 2 goals.
"Netherlands : Germany 2:2"
Jimbuna
06-13-12, 11:15 AM
I'd like to see the Dutch and the Danes win.
kraznyi_oktjabr
06-13-12, 12:00 PM
I'd like to see the Dutch and the Danes win.= better chances for England? :hmmm:
Jimbuna
06-13-12, 12:24 PM
= better chances for England? :hmmm:
Not really, I don't give England much chance of getting through the group stage.
I'm enjoying this game. Bit uneven score-wise, but still good.
BossMark
06-13-12, 02:42 PM
I don't give England much chance of getting through the group stage.
Pint says we do :D
Jimbuna
06-13-12, 03:18 PM
Pint says we do :D
You've got to travel north to deliver :)
antikristuseke
06-13-12, 03:37 PM
HA! Take that you dutch bastards :D
Schroeder
06-13-12, 03:57 PM
Our team played well during the first half, not so much in the second....but a win is a win.
Kongo Otto
06-13-12, 04:10 PM
:O:
http://www10.pic-upload.de/13.06.12/rdxenhlfd8mi.jpg
Skybird
06-13-12, 06:57 PM
I did not watch. I had time, but was not in the mood for it. Instead I cooked in the kitchen, then read a book and watched a Spenser episode afterwards.
Will go and see a doctor tomorrow. Just in case it is something serious.
BossMark
06-14-12, 01:24 AM
You've got to travel north to deliver :)
No problem but I still think that we will sneak out of the group :yep:
Now then let me see today's games
Italy 3 Croatia 0
Spain 4 Republic Of Ireland 0
Kongo Otto
06-14-12, 03:22 AM
*memo to myself*: Next Match buy less Lager and more Alka Seltzer before!
:dead:
Jimbuna
06-14-12, 05:13 AM
*memo to myself*: Next Match buy less Lager and more Alka Seltzer before!
:dead:
I'll be watching at work so it'll be Coke or flavoured water for me.
antikristuseke
06-14-12, 10:05 AM
I'll be watching at work, because where the hell else would I be.:stare:
I'd like to see the Dutch and the Danes win.
thanks!
Jimbuna
06-14-12, 04:42 PM
The Irish were overwhelmed by the Spaniards...they are looking like the team everyone will need to beat if they want to be champions.
From saturday and til tuesday I have three choices
1. Buy one more tv *
2. Use my dvd Recorder **
3. A Dice ***
* Watch both matches at same time
** record one match and see the other
*** 1-3 See first match, 4-6 see the second match
The two Danish public service channels will broadcast both matches*. and they are, as you may know, gonna start at the same time. one channel broadcast Portugal- Holland and the other channel broadcast Denmark-Germany. And I want to see them all. If I wish see them all live, I have to buy another TV. I already have a DVD recorder, so I'll probably use that instead
* They are gonna do so everyday from saturday til tuesday.
Markus
BossMark
06-15-12, 01:43 AM
Spain 4 Republic Of Ireland 0
That got me a few quid back :D
And oh dear today
Sweden 0 England 1
Ukraine 1 France 2
Tribesman
06-15-12, 02:31 AM
The Irish were overwhelmed by the Spaniards...they are looking like the team everyone will need to beat if they want to be champions.
It was said last night on prices that any 4 spanish player would be worth more than the whole Irish team, it was then pointed out that the Spanish team was probably worth more than Ireland or Greece or maybe both.
Still at least my prediction was OK, they did play for a while, a couple of them can even tell their parents they got a kick of the ball:woot:
:rock::rock::rock:
http://www.yapfiles.ru/files/416230/1339701703771.gif
Kongo Otto
06-15-12, 10:14 AM
*memo to myself*: Next Match buy less Lager and more Alka Seltzer before!
:dead:
I'll be watching at work so it'll be Coke or flavoured water for me.
OH one lucky Jedi he is. :D
Jimbuna
06-15-12, 10:42 AM
It was said last night on prices that any 4 spanish player would be worth more than the whole Irish team, it was then pointed out that the Spanish team was probably worth more than Ireland or Greece or maybe both.
Still at least my prediction was OK, they did play for a while, a couple of them can even tell their parents they got a kick of the ball:woot:
There is talk on sky sports that Shay Given has said one or two of the senior players are thinking of retiring after the Italy match.
They've taken a whole career to come to the realisation they are not the world class players they would formerly have you believe.
Could be interesting to see which England players come to the same realisation when England bow out.
Tribesman
06-15-12, 12:03 PM
There is talk on sky sports that Shay Given has said one or two of the senior players are thinking of retiring after the Italy match.
The talk here is of how much of a prick Roy Keane is.
Jimbuna
06-15-12, 12:05 PM
The talk here is of how much of a prick Roy Keane is.
What's he done?
BossMark
06-15-12, 12:11 PM
What's he done?
Played for man utd that's a good enough reason as any :yep:
It was said last night on prices that any 4 spanish player would be worth more than the whole Irish team, it was then pointed out that the Spanish team was probably worth more than Ireland or Greece or maybe both.
Still at least my prediction was OK, they did play for a while, a couple of them can even tell their parents they got a kick of the ball:woot:
Ireland are Scotland in disguise for this tournament. Thank you for continuing our fine celtic tradition of looking confused when facing proper footballers. :D
Not only England, it seems. Sweden expect....
https://twitter.com/VisitSwedenUK/status/213576084963332098/photo/1/large
I think it will be a funny game. 2-2.
Anyone still awake? :hmmm:
EDIT: Oh, finally, someone on our team woke up!
Hodgson's teams aren't overly concerned with the entertainment value it would seem. Still, it takes two to tango.
Hodgson's teams aren't overly concerned with the entertainment value it would seem. Still, it takes two to tango.
True, Sweden haven't exactly been on style either, certainly not to the extent you'd expect after they got a grilling from their manager...
Oh dear :har:
edit....2:2....
Oh dear :har:
edit....2:2....
There's another goal in this. I don't know for who.
Told you! :D
Nice goal too. Turning into a great game. I take back what I said about it being dull.
Took them a while to get into form, and still rather scrappy, but it's a victory at least. :yep:
Right after Sweden - England match was over, I remembered an article in one of the Swedish tabloid newspaper. A sports journalist had made a statistics of Sweden's football games the past few years. His statistics showed that all the matches that Sweden had lost, Zlatan Ibrahimovic been with the team. Alongside the article was a kind of image of this statistic. Remember that I thought this Zlatan is not a bad football player, so it must be something on the psychological level.
I did not check the stats, so whether it is true or not, I can not say.
Can only say, that Sweden has lost the first two games of this EM and in both matches Zlatan has been a part of the swedish team.
Markus
France great !!! :up:
http://www.yaplakal.com/uploads/post-3-13398012325620.jpg
Tribesman
06-16-12, 02:50 AM
What's he done?
Slagging off the Irish fans for still supporting a team thats rubbish.
Now soccer isn't my thing but I thought people are only considered real fans if their team is crap and they still support it
BossMark
06-16-12, 03:18 AM
Not sure about today's but here goes
Czech Republic 1 Poland 1
Greece 0 Russia 2
HunterICX
06-16-12, 03:36 AM
Now soccer isn't my thing but I thought people are only considered real fans if their team is crap and they still support it
Can't argue there,
Managed to catch the last bit when I got home and must say gotta hand it to them Irish for having a great time supporting their team no matter what.
Imo the most fun thing to watch during that Match was when the camera showed the Irish fans having a hell of a good time :DL
HunterICX
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 06:00 AM
A victory for England but still not enough to guarantee progression to the knockout stage.
France should beat the Swedes so that means England only need avoid defeat against Ukraine.
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 06:04 AM
Slagging off the Irish fans for still supporting a team thats rubbish.
Now soccer isn't my thing but I thought people are only considered real fans if their team is crap and they still support it
Ah right, missed that but can't say I'm overly suprised when taking into consideration the way he has behaved since leaving the playing side.
The Irish fan base probably won't ever let him forget it but I suspect the arrogance of the man won't let that bother him neither.
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 07:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpWdS...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpWdSjdhqkY&feature=related)
You have to see this poor reporter trying to do her thing.....:D
You have to see this poor reporter trying to do her thing.....:D
she looks like a victim of the Great Ukrainian Famine in the 1930's....
and yeah, these Oranje are pervs :D
idi w pizdu Rasija :woot::woot::woot: (and Poland too :woot::woot::woot:)
I Polsha tozche idi v pizdu, huesosy. :D
I Polsha tozche idi v pizdu, huesosy. :D
:up:
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 04:21 PM
Quite a turnaround in Group A with Czech Republic and Greece going through.
Russia went out? :huh: I was out so I missed the games. Wow. That's a biggie.
"Dick Advoacaat",Dutch coach for Russia got fired?
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 04:49 PM
Russia went out? :huh: I was out so I missed the games. Wow. That's a biggie.
The live table was most interesting when Greece scored and the Czech Republic a while later.
Russia and Poland simply didn't perform on the night.
The live table was most interesting when Greece scored and the Czech Republic a while later.
Russia and Poland simply didn't perform on the night.
But England did last night, I am just saying.:arrgh!:
"Dick Advoacaat",Dutch coach for Russia got fired?
not the little General? One of the best managers we had at Rangers. It won't matter to him anyway. As far as I know he was going back to PSV after this tournament.
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 05:10 PM
But England did last night, I am just saying.:arrgh!:
I'm not sure what you mean, I was responding to Egan.
I mean that I have bet on England to win the cup and England is doing good so far, as I have predicted for years now.
Trust me.
http://www.yaplakal.com/uploads/post-3-13398804578047.jpg
See how the players play the Russian national team and other members of the EURO 2012
Jimbuna
06-16-12, 05:42 PM
I mean that I have bet on England to win the cup and England is doing good so far, as I have predicted for years now.
Trust me.
I hope you win your bet...your a braver man than me putting your money on England :)
A couple of weeks after greece had won in 2004, the swedish news channel rapport, told us about a person that had made a bet on that Greece would win the trophy,
He had put 1000 Swedish kronor (about $ 135 in today's exchange rate) on that bet. He won a lot on that
Markus
BossMark
06-16-12, 11:35 PM
I mean that I have bet on England to win the cup and England is doing good so far, as I have predicted for years now.
Trust me.
I hope that you are right :yep:
And that was a bit of a upset last night with Greece and the Czechs going through.
Jimbuna
06-17-12, 09:55 AM
Utter horror for the Greek FA, as they realise that they're going to have to book a hotel for another week.
Utter horror for the Greek FA, as they realise that they're going to have to book a hotel for another week.
This time next week the Greek team might be the only Greek representative in Europe...scary thought...
Jimbuna
06-17-12, 01:13 PM
This time next week the Greek team might be the only Greek representative in Europe...scary thought...
We should know by tomorrow (politically).
BossMark
06-17-12, 01:20 PM
Tonight's games
Holland 2 Portugal
Germany 3 Denmark 0
I would like to see the Dutch go through
Tribesman
06-17-12, 02:52 PM
Utter horror for the Greek FA, as they realise that they're going to have to book a hotel for another week.
The Greek FA have no horror with that, booking the room and staying another week is no worries on credit.
The hotel may be looking at utter horror when it tries to get them to pay their bill after the tournament though.
Germany vs Greece...
I do not envy the police force who have to do that game...
Skybird
06-17-12, 04:31 PM
I think the EU operetta will play no role in the match Germany-Greece.
German matrch today was won, but the Germans played well the first 35 minutes only. But ignored too many chances for scoring. You cannot become champion when folding so many chances - especially the Bavarian players have learned that the hard way this season. Also, a football match lasts longer than just 35 minutes.
If they do not improve, in any match versus the Spaniards I would still bet on Spain. Too often the Germans make it to the opposing goal - and there they die in glorious beauty. Playing beautiful does not mean much. You need to score. Even if you have such a fantastic reserve like the German team (probably the most powerful reserve bank in the tournament), and even when the first line shows so many players who individually show much class indeed. Still - you need to score, and you need to dominate for longer than just 35 minutes.
When Portugal scored their second and the Germans still were locked with a tie by 1:1, for 10 mor 15 minutes the danger was very real that the German team would get kicked out of the tournament by a second Danish goal! I remember at least one Danish close shot that could have kicked Germany out in that phase.
The Danes played very well, and managed to set up a very good positional play. Compliments to them, it was impressive to see. But still - a team wanting to become European champion must be able to crack up such a defence. In second half, the German team played too tame and too lame and too shy and too concerned, by that slowing itself down in the last 25 minutes.
The team's potential is certain, the individual players' quality is there, too. But the tiger is still not set off the chain. Set him free, guys!
"Greece vs. Germany" eh? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1KfRX06kA)
"Greece vs. Germany" eh? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1KfRX06kA)
:har::har::har::up:
Jimbuna
06-18-12, 08:42 AM
"Greece vs. Germany" eh? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1KfRX06kA)
LOL :)
BossMark
06-18-12, 01:11 PM
"Greece vs. Germany" eh? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1KfRX06kA)
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:
BossMark
06-19-12, 02:42 AM
England to get at least a draw against Ukraine then go on and knock the Eyeties out, winding Balotelli up as well so that the idiot gets himself sent off.
Jimbuna
06-19-12, 06:49 AM
England to get at least a draw against Ukraine then go on and knock the Eyeties out, winding Balotelli up as well so that the idiot gets himself sent off.
I'd settle for that :yep:
Herr-Berbunch
06-19-12, 07:56 AM
Germany vs Greece...
I do not envy the police force who have to do that game...
Nor do I envy policing the Ukraine v England game, if (sorry, big if required) if England win, nor would I fancy being a fan outside the game afterwards. :down:
And the officials are all Hungarian/Norwegian -
Referee: Viktor Kassai (Hungary)
Assistant referees:
Gábor Eros (Hungary)
György Ring (Hungary)
Fourth official: Tom Harald Hagen (Norway)
Additional assistant referees:
István Vad (Hungary)
Tamás Bognár (Hungary)
Does anyone know how Ukraine and UK voted in Eurovision 2012 - it may have some bearing! :huh:
With regard to the upcoming match Greece vs. Germany:
I can already see the headlines:
"Greece got kicked out of the Euro"
"Germany leaves the Euro". :88)
BossMark
06-19-12, 10:37 AM
Nor do I envy policing the Ukraine v England game, when (sorry, big when required) when England win, nor would I fancy being a fan outside the game afterwards. :down:
And the officials are all Hungarian/Norwegian -
Referee: Viktor Kassai (Hungary)
Assistant referees:
Gábor Eros (Hungary)
György Ring (Hungary)
Fourth official: Tom Harald Hagen (Norway)
Additional assistant referees:
István Vad (Hungary)
Tamás Bognár (Hungary)
Does anyone know how Ukraine and UK voted in Eurovision 2012 - it may have some bearing! :huh:
Sorted it for you :D
Herr-Berbunch
06-19-12, 10:57 AM
Sorted it for you :D
Aw, bless you, such blind optimism. I hope they win, and with Carroll nowhere to be seen on the pitch it is quite likely now. :yeah:
Jimbuna
06-19-12, 12:18 PM
Looks like Carroll has to make way for the guy who flopped big style at the last world cup.
He had better perform this time and I mean like a footballer, not a thug.
BossMark
06-19-12, 12:37 PM
Aw, bless you, such blind optimism. I hope they win, and with Carroll nowhere to be seen on the pitch it is quite likely now. :yeah:
Having watched and supported Leeds United for the last 40 years you need to be very optimistic :haha:
Looks like Carroll has to make way for the guy who flopped big style at the last world cup.
He had better perform this time and I mean like a footballer, not a thug.
I wouldn't hold your breath...
Found a picture of him warming up in preparation:
http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/rooney-celebration.jpg
Herr-Berbunch
06-19-12, 03:14 PM
BossMark, I spent a great deal of time supporting Leeds between 98-03, mostly 'private' functions in a sports and social bar I worked in. It was only open on a Thursday so the other nights when a match was on there was only up to a dozen of us with a at-cost bar and usually done samples. :yeah:
I've still kept an eye on them and root for them where needs must, but that social life isn't possible anymore. I'd love to see then back up at the top, more than my local team.
My prediction on the upcoming quarter final
QF1. Czech Republic-Portugal= Lose-win*
QF2. Germany-Greece= Lose-win
QF3. Spain-France= Win-lose
QF4. England-Italy=lose/win-win/lose**
* I have never been good at predicting on how many goal there will be made in a match. So I just predict on who I believe is gonna win.
** This one is tricky, 'cause both team haven't convinced me yet.
Markus
Skybird
06-19-12, 06:19 PM
Superb goal my Ibrahimovic for Sweden. Just watch a slow motion of his body. Fantastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxGPD98-syA
Chapeau!
Superb goal by Dević for Ukraine. Just watch a slow motion of the ball behind the line. Fantastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JtNRU4LpDM
Chapeau!
Herr_Pete
06-20-12, 02:17 AM
Czech Republic-Portugal
Germany-Greece
Spain-France
England-Italy
I'm not really sure about the Czech game but I can confidently go through the other groups. Germany will certainly demolish Greece, if you have been watching Greece then you will be just as confused as I am as to how they got out of that group. Spain will do the usual and make things look difficult, pass without purpose and then score late in the first half and then go back to passing without a purpose. England actually have to play a proper team now :o Spite the Italian team being sort of old they are packed full of experience and sadly I don't think England will be able to cope with this. Not even Walcott can save England in this match. (due to lack of a brain)
Germany v Italy
Spain v Czech/Port
Germany will go on to beat Italy fairly comfortably as Germany spite not packed full of experience are just simply a better team. Italy don't have the legs to cope with Germany's fast counter attacking football.
Spain will probably win in their usual depressing fashion.
Germany v Spain
Germany's time to win. Sick of Spain's Death by a thousand passes.
BossMark
06-20-12, 02:21 AM
BossMark, I spent a great deal of time supporting Leeds between 98-03, mostly 'private' functions in a sports and social bar I worked in. It was only open on a Thursday so the other nights when a match was on there was only up to a dozen of us with a at-cost bar and usually done samples. :yeah:
I've still kept an eye on them and root for them where needs must, but that social life isn't possible anymore. I'd love to see then back up at the top, more than my local team.
:up::yeah: Nice one, need a few more signings and hopefully we will be pushing for promotion this coming season :yep:
Skybird
06-20-12, 02:47 AM
Germany will go on to beat Italy fairly comfortably as Germany spite not packed full of experience are just simply a better team. Italy don't have the legs to cope with Germany's fast counter attacking football.
Careful, Italy is Germany's bogey team. The Germans have not managed to defeat them since a long time. The total score is twice as many defeats as victories.
Germany's time to win. Sick of Spain's Death by a thousand passes.
Also easy to say. Could be, but while both teams still are not in top form, after the first round my impression is that the Spaniards still have the edge. German team could get them on a good day.
The Greeks tomorrow still must be beaten. There is a reason why they are where they are. And that reason is they are a nasty obstacle. Just look how difficult the Germans made it for themselves against Denmark, being unable to crack them open.
BossMark
06-20-12, 02:55 AM
Czech Republic 1 Portugal 2
Germany 2Greece 0 (I hope I am totally wrong with this one)
Spain 2 France 0
England 2 Italy 1 (wind Balotelli up and the stupid Eyetie will get himself sent off :yep:)
Ł10 on each score :D apart from the Germany game:hmm2:
Herr_Pete
06-20-12, 03:40 AM
Careful, Italy is Germany's bogey team. The Germans have not managed to defeat them since a long time. The total score is twice as many defeats as victories.
Also easy to say. Could be, but while both teams still are not in top form, after the first round my impression is that the Spaniards still have the edge. German team could get them on a good day.
The Greeks tomorrow still must be beaten. There is a reason why they are where they are. And that reason is they are a nasty obstacle. Just look how difficult the Germans made it for themselves against Denmark, being unable to crack them open.
If you watched Germany in that game there was no urgency whatsoever. It looked like they couldn't crack them open because they were not willing to commit players forward but when they did Bender scored. Italy may be the bogey team but back in those days Italy were a team to be reckoned with. They are still a good side but they will seriously struggle with this new German side.
I'm just glad it's Germany who are going to put Greece out. There is nothing attractive about the Greek side and they really have scraped that group.
Herr-Berbunch
06-20-12, 03:46 AM
Germany v Italy
Eleven v Eleven
Twenty-two v none
Who knows?
:hmmm:
:D
BossMark
06-20-12, 04:39 AM
BREAKING NEWS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS
And what a surprise Sepp "I hate the English" Blatter has now decided that goal line technology is now necessity.
Jimbuna
06-20-12, 04:51 AM
:up::yeah: Nice one, need a few more signings and hopefully we will be pushing for promotion this coming season :yep:
That comment is becoming a tad repetitive now :)
Jimbuna
06-20-12, 04:55 AM
BREAKING NEWS ON SKY SPORTS NEWS
And what a surprise Sepp "I hate the English" Blatter has now decided that goal line technology is now necessity.
He is so embarrassing you'd think he'd realise the fact :nope:
A familiar occurrence:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Education/Pix/pictures/2011/3/10/1299779380930/Frank-Lampards-disallowed-007.jpg
In all fairness to the Ukraine though, it really should have been 1-1.
Sammi79
06-20-12, 06:45 AM
In all fairness to the Ukraine though, it really should have been 1-1.
Why? the player who setup the shot was yards off side when the ball was played to him. That it was a long ball that gave him time to double back onside before his touch which the linesman should have flagged immediately.
Also I have yet to find one decent image that clearly shows space between the ball and the line. To me it looks like it is just touching. Arguable certainly, unlike Lampards effort which was a clear yard over the line.
Goal line tech is definitely necessary in my opinion, It would also be so easy, 4 mini cameras with 90 degree FOV in each corner of the goal facing the opposite corner. At least 1 of those cameras would give a perfectly clear view in every situation.
Regards,
Sam.
Good point on the offside call, in my defence I'm rather a novice at this game! The ball was definitely across the goal line though:
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/tkDo5lGReKEumtTltWqTNw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptussowexperts/20120619-cb62uya7h7ug89x68828ntyc3d.jpeg
Not miles across like our World Cup goal, no, but still enough to count...but like you say, the offside was missed as well.
Sammi79
06-20-12, 08:56 AM
Good point on the offside call, in my defence I'm rather a novice at this game! The ball was definitely across the goal line though:
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/tkDo5lGReKEumtTltWqTNw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptussowexperts/20120619-cb62uya7h7ug89x68828ntyc3d.jpeg
Not miles across like our World Cup goal, no, but still enough to count...but like you say, the offside was missed as well.
Well, I say maybe, maybe not. The rule is - the whole of the ball must cross the whole of the line, and that picture is inconclusive. To me it looks to be touching.
The most light is coming from the right side, and the apparent dark patch between the ball and the bar could well be shadow on the ball, see Coles or Parkers shirt for a similar effect on a similar colour.
Regardless, the point is with the limited technology as it stands, as in that image, were it referred to, would be referred right back as referees decision anyway as it is too close to call.
Like I said, arguable. Simple video tech would prevent these arguments.
Regards,
Sam.
Skybird
06-20-12, 09:04 AM
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article902888.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/John+Terry+clears+the+ball+after+it+appeared+to+cr oss+over+the+goal+line+denying+Ukraine+an+equalise r++
I think this pictures shows with quite some certainty that there is a small dark gap of empty space left of the ball, and dark means that spot is neither thje goalline nor the goalbar. I am 99% certain that this should have been counted as a goal for sure. It appeared like that to me already during the life slo-mo.
Sammi79
06-20-12, 09:15 AM
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article902888.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/John+Terry+clears+the+ball+after+it+appeared+to+cr oss+over+the+goal+line+denying+Ukraine+an+equalise r++
I think this pictures shows with quite some certainty that there is a small dark gap of empty space left of the ball, and dark means that spot is neither thje goalline nor the goalbar. I am 99% certain that this should have been counted as a goal for sure. It appeared like that to me already during the life slo-mo.
That is the same image from the same camera that Oberon posted.
I say shadow on the darker side of the ball, It is not clear enough to be certain. If the dark patch was obviously green, which it is not, then maybe.
I urge you to examine Terrys right arm, where there is clearly visible a dark patch on the left - this dark patch is his shirt in shadow, clearly not the grass to the left of it.
I am not saying it did cross the line or didn't, only that from this image (the best we have) it is impossible to be certain.
Regards,
Sam.
BossMark
06-20-12, 09:28 AM
Sod em we won 1-0 so who cares :D (well apart from everyone that don't like England that is)
Herr-Berbunch
06-20-12, 09:38 AM
Sod em we won 1-0 so who cares :D (well apart from everyone that don't like England that is)
Even if it was given, and wasn't deemed offside, the end result would've been England through, Ukraine out.
Septic Blatter was a bit too quick changing his mind on GLT. :hmmm:
Herr_Pete
06-20-12, 09:42 AM
That is the same image from the same camera that Oberon posted.
I say shadow on the darker side of the ball, It is not clear enough to be certain. If the dark patch was obviously green, which it is not, then maybe.
I urge you to examine Terrys right arm, where there is clearly visible a dark patch on the left - this dark patch is his shirt in shadow, clearly not the grass to the left of it.
I am not saying it did cross the line or didn't, only that from this image (the best we have) it is impossible to be certain.
Regards,
Sam.
If the shadow of the dark side isn't showing then they must have been playing with a size 6 or 7 football. The Entire football crossed the line but as we all know the player was offside in the first place so it doesn't really matter.
Sammi79
06-20-12, 10:08 AM
Septic Blatter was a bit too quick changing his mind on GLT. :hmmm:
Do you think if the roles had been reversed he would feel the same? :hmmm:
If the shadow of the dark side isn't showing then they must have been playing with a size 6 or 7 football. The Entire football crossed the line but as we all know the player was offside in the first place so it doesn't really matter.
We'll never know, if there was a space between the line and the ball or not, either way it would be counted in millimeters, possibly centimeters. To be absolutely honest watching live I thought it was a goal (apart from the offside) only on reflection and really looking at the images, IMHO it is not possible to be sure.
And no, it doesn't matter now and it wouldn't have mattered had it been given. Which makes me doubly suspicious of Blatters reaction. Not that I disagree, mind you. Were GLT implemented already we would know beyond any reasonable doubt.
Regards,
Sam.
BossMark
06-20-12, 10:12 AM
Do you think if the roles had been reversed he would feel the same? :hmmm:
I would put my mortgage on it that he would have said
"I still see no need for goal line technology" or something like that anyway :yep:
Herr-Berbunch
06-20-12, 10:37 AM
To be fair to the guy, he did loosely change his mind after the World Cup debacle, but has dragged his heels a bit. Now, all of a sudden, he deems it a necessity.
Jimbuna
06-20-12, 02:47 PM
The ball did cross the line but the offside infraction was overlooked so it's 'swings and roundabouts' in my book.
The ball did cross the line but the offside infraction was overlooked so it's 'swings and roundabouts' in my book.
in other words, a referee can let for 3 offside goals for team A in the first half, provided he will do the same for team B in the second half?
repairing one mistake by doing another doesn't convince me tbh...tho, I know what you mean.
But still, Ukraine did deserve that draw...
THe quarter finals:
Portugal : Czech Republic 2:1
Germany : Greece 4:0
Spain : France 2:0
Italy : England (1:1), 1:2 (overtime)
=> Portugal : Spain and England : Germany
Herr-Berbunch
06-21-12, 04:41 AM
. . . and England : Germany
Not again :wah:
Jimbuna
06-21-12, 05:47 AM
in other words, a referee can let for 3 offside goals for team A in the first half, provided he will do the same for team B in the second half?
repairing one mistake by doing another doesn't convince me tbh...tho, I know what you mean.
But still, Ukraine did deserve that draw...
Yeah, you win some and you lose some.
That is the element of human error that is allowed under the rules atm.
The only surefire way is to introduce goaline technology and provided it only means an official looks at a playback and doesn't hold the game up for more than let's say fifteen seconds then so be it...far better than all the ambiguity that has remained since the 1966 world cup final for example.
That is the element of human error that is allowed under the rules atm.
The only surefire way is to introduce goaline technology and provided it only means an official looks at a playback and doesn't hold the game up for more than let's say fifteen seconds then so be it...far better than all the ambiguity that has remained since the 1966 world cup final for example.
:) Right-o.
I would like to see that whining and sissy crying if the English team had scored like that...:O:
antikristuseke
06-21-12, 01:12 PM
I like the element of human error in footie, gives the game some more emotion. And I say this having been on the reciving end of some horrendeously bad calls.
BossMark
06-21-12, 01:41 PM
I know I said in an earlier post that Portugal will win, but I would really like to see the smile wiped off that ex scummer Ronaldo :yep:
Penguin
06-21-12, 03:12 PM
...I would really like to see the smile wiped off that ex scummer Ronaldo :yep:
^THIS :yep::yep::yep:
antikristuseke
06-21-12, 03:22 PM
God damn it, the wrong side scored the first goal
I know I said in an earlier post that Portugal will win, but I would really like to see the smile wiped off that ex scummer Ronaldo :yep:
Oh yes. :up:
Skybird
06-21-12, 06:47 PM
Germany-Greece today. That will be no easy match, and I disagree with those assuming this is safe prey for Germany. The Greeks will try to destroy the match by playing extremely passive, because that is the only option they have with that lack of individual class of their players. Germany should make an early goal, to force them to open their formation and allow more space for the germans. Ifd the German s do not get that space and just face two concrete walls, then the balance will shift the more in favour for the Greeks the longer the match lasts. The Greeks will also be extremely motivated due to politics, which I expect to play no role for the Germans. I read the rethorics is boiling hot in the Greek press already. It seems they really think they are playing against Merkel's boys, not Löw's boys.
Germany by class is the favourite , but the Greeks are exactly that kind of match-destroying team that the Germans do not like at all to play against, and against which they often show a certain helplessness.
This match will not be a self-runner for Germany, not at all. It is possible that the Greeks win in overtime or penalties. But I hope not, of course. I also hope the Germans win more pace and agility. So far they have not really convinced me. Their play is still too slow.
German win by one goal lead, my tip.
Sammi79
06-22-12, 03:16 AM
Germany-Greece today. That will be no easy match, and I disagree with those assuming this is safe prey for Germany. The Greeks will try to destroy the match by playing extremely passive, because that is the only option they have with that lack of individual class of their players. Germany should make an early goal, to force them to open their formation and allow more space for the germans. Ifd the German s do not get that space and just face two concrete walls, then the balance will shift the more in favour for the Greeks the longer the match lasts. The Greeks will also be extremely motivated due to politics, which I expect to play no role for the Germans. I read the rethorics is boiling hot in the Greek press already. It seems they really think they are playing against Merkel's boys, not Löw's boys.
Germany by class is the favourite , but the Greeks are exactly that kind of match-destroying team that the Germans do not like at all to play against, and against which they often show a certain helplessness.
This match will not be a self-runner for Germany, not at all. It is possible that the Greeks win in overtime or penalties. But I hope not, of course. I also hope the Germans win more pace and agility. So far they have not really convinced me. Their play is still too slow.
German win by one goal lead, my tip.
I think you are being hard on what appears to be (yet another) impressive German team. The political thing is unfortunate, I hope it plays little part. Fortunately in football there is no concept of 'negative goals' though if Germany get too many maybe they could give one to Greece.
I really hope England gets to play them, though I think it likely Italy will prevent it, so;
Tonight I am supporting Germany *ducks*
Regards,
Sam.
Skybird
06-22-12, 04:41 AM
I'm not hard on the German team, I just try to be realistic. After the qualification that they won with flying flags everybody was saiyng "This is europe'S best team". I say it is one of the two best teams. They still have not shown the level in the tournament that they have shown in the qualification, they play slower. Spain plays the same kind of football like Germany now, but it seems the Spaniards still are a tick more agile and surprising, although they also are still not in top form. And I recall that Germany easily struggles if either you stand on the German'S feet everywhere and leave them no space to breath, or when you sett up two 5-men-lkines in the backyard in front of the goal and play defensively and only try to destroy the match. Itz'S okay if the Greeks do thgat, since they lack the technical means for any other tctic, it is not okay if a team like Spain or Russia would do like that, they have more technical class. Germany does not like to play against such destructively oriented teams, it finds it difficult to find a solution for how to crack open such a tactic.
After all there is a reason why the Greeks survived the first round. And I think their motivation is skyrocketing, they will play with fever. It is not just any team they play against, it is the team of the great tormentor of their homeland. If you read the Greek press, the headlines, a bit, you know what I mean. Currently the Greek press looks like the British yellow press before a match England-Germany. War-references. Martial rethoric. And the inevitable link to politics. Can't say I like that tone. Glad to say that German press deals with it much more sober.
Anyway, this evening I will do - by hand - one of my famous hand-made tasty tasty yum yum pizzas that the world envies me for, and see what happens. :woot: If the germans show a jump in performance level and improve their overall speed, and if they can score early, they have good chances then.
Sammi79
06-22-12, 06:56 AM
War-references.
Come on, you are not still bitter over that are you? :D
Joking aside I know exactly what you mean, I find the trash rhetoric distasteful also. I think the reality is, everyone (English/German) loves a match between Germany-England, because of the highly motivated spirit that both teams normally play on such occasions, which is identical. Much more often than not it is a great match to watch regardless of the outcome. Though the skills of each team may differ relatively over time, the will to compete and win is so extreme and similar it is always thrilling.
The best way to counter a heavily defensive opposition is the long ball aerial game, which is why pure passing teams like Spain struggle against it, finding themselves out of ideas after being consistently prevented from trying to pass it into goal. Though none may pass as pretty as Spain currently, Germany has better rounded capabilities I think.
Greece will not go down without a fight, that is certain. As long as Germany keep their will to win up and their strategy flexible, I think their technical superiority will tell before 90 minutes is up.
Should be a good game though, can't wait!
Regards,
Sam.
BossMark
06-22-12, 07:01 AM
The Greeks to shock the Germans?:haha: any takers? :D
Herr-Berbunch
06-22-12, 07:43 AM
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61061000/jpg/_61061796_cartoon_304.jpg
Jimbuna
06-22-12, 07:49 AM
Germany-Greece today. That will be no easy match, and I disagree with those assuming this is safe prey for Germany. The Greeks will try to destroy the match by playing extremely passive, because that is the only option they have with that lack of individual class of their players. Germany should make an early goal, to force them to open their formation and allow more space for the germans. Ifd the German s do not get that space and just face two concrete walls, then the balance will shift the more in favour for the Greeks the longer the match lasts. The Greeks will also be extremely motivated due to politics, which I expect to play no role for the Germans. I read the rethorics is boiling hot in the Greek press already. It seems they really think they are playing against Merkel's boys, not Löw's boys.
Germany by class is the favourite , but the Greeks are exactly that kind of match-destroying team that the Germans do not like at all to play against, and against which they often show a certain helplessness.
This match will not be a self-runner for Germany, not at all. It is possible that the Greeks win in overtime or penalties. But I hope not, of course. I also hope the Germans win more pace and agility. So far they have not really convinced me. Their play is still too slow.
German win by one goal lead, my tip.
I heard a rumour the Greeks were going to bribe the German team but couldn't afford the asking price :O:
Jimbuna
06-22-12, 07:52 AM
Well if England and Germany proceed further and eventually play each other I want the extra officials to check the goal line at the same time they check the goal nets :O:
http://huwdavid.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/goal-disallowed-england-v-germany-world-cup-2010.jpg
Onkel Neal
06-22-12, 09:16 AM
So... can someone give me a summary of this year's edition of the Euro Cup? What's the 5 minute capsule? Who came in favorites, who surprised everyone, where's it going? Thanks!
Neal
antikristuseke
06-22-12, 10:27 AM
Spain and Germany are the major favorites, Spain more so. So far there have been no real surprises other than Ireland making it to the group stage and then burning in a blaze of misery that is their skill at football. Greece getting through to the play-offs is a bit surprising as well, but they are a competent side so Germany are not in for an easy victory. Other than that is is business as usual.
BossMark
06-22-12, 11:48 AM
So... can someone give me a summary of this year's edition of the Euro Cup? What's the 5 minute capsule? Who came in favorites, who surprised everyone, where's it going? Thanks!
Neal
Spain where and still are the bookies favourites along with the Germans to win the tournament, Greece as also surprised me with getting to the knockout stage but England I hopefully will pull through and beat Eyeties and then lets see what happens then.:yep:
But I have had a silly bet on Greece to win 1-0 against the Germans :D
Tribesman
06-22-12, 12:27 PM
I heard a rumour the Greeks were going to bribe the German team but couldn't afford the asking price :O:
In latest developments Germany has given Greece the money for the bribe
the biggest surprise of the Euro 2012 was a 21-year old Irish who was presumed to be mugged and killed by Polish bandits but 2 days ago his body was found in a river. Drunk with no bruises, with...surprise, surprise...credit cards, wallet and a mobile in his pockets. Polish hospitality that's how we call it.
Spain where and still are the bookies favourites along with the Germans to win the tournament, Greece as also surprised me with getting to the knockout stage but England I hopefully will pull through and beat Eyeties and then lets see what happens then.:yep:
But I have had a silly bet on Greece to win 1-0 against the Germans :D
Well, that's your money down the drawn already, 1-0 for Germany in the first three minutes.
Would be interesting if they did lose, but very, very unlikely.
VipertheSniper
06-22-12, 02:10 PM
looks like a siege on the Greek penalty box now
And the Germans are not turning their good chances into goals... how Özil did just pass to the Greek keeper was really a prime example of what not to do
Indeed, apologies, it would seem that the goal I thought was a goal was instead not a goal. :know:
But yes, Germany is all over them.
EDIT: NOW it's 1-0 to Germany.
VipertheSniper
06-22-12, 02:25 PM
finally, and from someone I really wished that he would make one in this tournament
Jimbuna
06-22-12, 03:00 PM
One way traffic...the 1-0 score does not do justice to the game thus far.
Jimbuna
06-22-12, 03:06 PM
1-1 :huh:
VipertheSniper
06-22-12, 03:07 PM
Khedira with a stunning goal
now with the 3:1 the Greeks are toast
Jimbuna
06-22-12, 03:21 PM
4-1 :O:
Sammi79
06-22-12, 03:48 PM
:up: Congrats Germany! Commiserations Greece.
Hats off from me to both sides for the best game of the tournament so far.
Regards,
Sam.
Skybird
06-22-12, 07:22 PM
The first hour, until the 1:1 was the kind of match I expected, Germany trying and needing many chances to score just one goal, Greek raising a wall and closing the gate and needing much lesser chances to also score one goal. But then they were tired a bit, and the Germans added some reserves. But the Greek goalie was assisting, so to speak. Means, he was weak.
German team set a world record they say, fifteen competition-relevant matches won in a row now, since the defeat in the semifinals 2010, I think.
The reserve bank is so strongly manned with good players, this must also be a record in a way.
Now we mock the English in penalties :D, and then take revenge against Spain in the final! :D From today on I give it a 50:50 chance.
antikristuseke
06-22-12, 09:15 PM
Seems apropriate, sort of.
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4563491_700b.jpg
Onkel Neal
06-22-12, 10:35 PM
So the Germans are in the semi-finals, good. All according to my plan.... :arrgh!:
Skybird
06-23-12, 05:01 AM
Ah, somebody plans to experience the final victory celebrations in Germany live on the scene! Well, after the experiences two and four years ago, I dare to promise you'll get a show for your money. :)
Seems apropriate, sort of.
Thank goodness it was football and not Civilization...
http://andjo.free.fr/civ/tankkill2.gif
Jimbuna
06-23-12, 07:24 AM
After last nights demolition of the Greeks I make Germany hot favourites to win the tournament outright....IIRC one of my first posts on here tipped Germany and Spain.
1-0 Spain....France have just looked average so far in this tourney. I get the feeling they might be real trouble tonight.
I've had mixed feelings about this Euro. Some of the games have been great, some pretty average, none have been awful. But it's just not capturing my imagination the way others have in the past.
We were spoiled by Euro 2000, I think. Still remains the high water mark for tournament football as far as I'm concerned, and that includes any of the world cups in many, many, many years.
Jimbuna
06-23-12, 04:03 PM
Spain were average tonight but that could be down to the fact France were mediocre at best.
We'll see what England team turns out tomorrow but I'm not overly hopefull.
Sammi79
06-23-12, 04:12 PM
:zzz: Dullest game so far.
I think Portugal has a pretty decent chance of beating Spain now.
Germany must be clear favourites by now.
Regards,
Sam.
Jimbuna
06-23-12, 04:18 PM
:zzz: Dullest game so far.
I think Portugal has a pretty decent chance of beating Spain now.
Germany must be clear favourites by now.
Regards,
Sam.
Agreed....see #237
Skybird
06-23-12, 05:29 PM
It is easy to underestimate Spain, since they always play long, and make the opponent tired and lulled - and then suddenly they strike. However, I cannot see the agility and speed I expect of them and which I assumed they would gain back during the tournament. They got better - but the Germans even more so.
After the way they played France tonight, I increase my former estimation for the German team taking the title to 55:45. :)
BossMark
06-24-12, 09:47 AM
England to beat the Eyeties 2-1 tonight :yep: then lets bring on those pesky Germans :D
BossMark
06-24-12, 01:11 PM
Just had a tenner on Balotelli to get sent off with William Hills very nice odds at 12\1 :D
Sammi79
06-24-12, 01:21 PM
Judging by Englands performance so far, I think it is roughly even that we win or lose tonight. As long as we go down fighting, I do not mind if we lose. I applaud the team and their manager for taking us this far, and for the team spirit, which was unexpected and refreshing. This should be a good game.
I will be happier if we do get to face Germany, of course.
To be in the final itself would be a minor miracle, to win it a major one.
Stranger things have happened.
COME ON ENGLAND! :woot:
Judging by Englands performance so far, I think it is roughly even that we win or lose tonight. As long as we go down fighting, I do not mind if we lose. I applaud the team and their manager for taking us this far, and for the team spirit, which was unexpected and refreshing. This should be a good game.
I will be happier if we do get to face Germany, of course.
To be in the final itself would be a minor miracle, to win it a major one.
Stranger things have happened.
COME ON ENGLAND! :woot:
x2, I reckon we'll do it though. By this stage we're usually warming up...and then we get run over by the steamroller of one of the giants. :03:
Oof! Di Rossi there with a hammer! I'd take that as a statement of intent.
Oof! Di Rossi there with a hammer! I'd take that as a statement of intent.
We're pushing back. This is a bit more like it. Both sides playing well so far. :yep:
Shaping up to be quite a game. :up:
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