Barcodes

[Skybird]

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120522-barcode-everyone-at-birth

I was only having a bad dream, yes?

[Jimbuna]

LOL I can imagine someone who would be having a heart attack on first sight of that :DL

[Skybird]

LOL I can imagine someone who would be having a heart attack on first sight of that :DL

On first SIGHT? Just needing to listen to that infantile naivety of that author gave me the creeps.

[Sailor Steve]

LOL I can imagine someone who would be having a heart attack on first sight of that :DL
It's okay. I keep my defibrilators handy at all times.

[Penguin]

:o

I really love this naive outlook on technology some people living in their ivory towers have. :damn:

[Skybird]

Tatooed codes for item-identification. Where have I heared that before - some history film or so....

[MH]

Hmmm....:up:

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/12000000/Equilibrium-equilibrium-12099930-462-321.jpg

[Herr-Berbunch]

I can't open that link, because that part of the BBC isn't funded by my license fee!!! :damn:

Anyhoo, I get the gist of it and it immediately reminded me of Mike Leigh's Naked. A very dark and dismal, brilliant film. I've just found the scene on YouTube but won't link it because of excessive bad language, but a simple search for the title (above) + the future should lead you to 4.51 of what I think was the best film of 1993.

[mookiemookie]

Revelations 13:16-17 "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, And that no man might buy or sell, except he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

[Buddahaid]

Tatooed codes for item-identification. Where have I heared that before - some history film or so....

A film called 'Idiocracy'.

[Skybird]

I can't open that link, because that part of the BBC isn't funded by my license fee!!! :damn:



This week science fiction writer Elizabeth Moon argues that everyone should be given a barcode at birth.
“If I were empress of the Universe I would insist on every individual having a unique ID permanently attached - a barcode if you will; an implanted chip to provide an easy, fast inexpensive way to identify individuals.
It would be imprinted on everyone at birth. Point the scanner at someone and there it is.
Having such a unique barcode would have many advantages. In war soldiers could easily differentiate legitimate targets in a population from non combatants.
This could prevent mistakes in identity, mistakes that result in the deaths of innocent bystanders. Weapons systems would record the code of the use, identifying how fired which shot and leading to more accountability in the field.
Anonymity would be impossible as would mistaken identity making it easier to place responsibility accurately, not only in war but also in non-combat situations far from the war.”

[Oberon]

I can see it happening in this paranoia-security climate, it would probably be marketted as the next stage in shopping, like Japan currently has with mobile phones. No need to take a wallet or a card, just point your hand at the scanner and it automatically deducts the amount from your bank!
No need for keys! Just touch your hand against your house door/car door/locker door and blam, open it goes!

Little mention that you can be tracked and catalogued by the authorities, just happy little sheep enjoying their circuses. :hmmm:

[Osmium Steele]

I'd like to hear the context in which this was written. It appears a bit tongue-in-cheek. "If I were Empress of the Universe"?

If she is truly a published SF author, I have to believe she knew exactly what she was saying.

[Betonov]

Anonymity would be impossible

A luxury I am not giving up

[TarJak]

Open the blackmarket to identity alteration so you can be whoever you want with a quick replacement of your chip's data.

[kiwi_2005]

I would prefer a barcode instead of finger scanning at least when it comes to work. We have to scan in/out of work with our finger no finger scan no pay, but I don't get it how does the scan machine know its me! Yes the finger print right but we can use any finger till it does and if it still doesn't verify we punch in our number then scan till it does work. Its crazy and happens all the time with everyone, I find rubbing my finger on my clothes before I scan works sometimes. Bring back the clock in cards they never failed.

[Diopos]

Humans and citizens versus "scanable" targets and employees? Liberty versus state and corporate human tracking? The next revolution will be an interesting one! :hmmm:

[Stealhead]

I would prefer a barcode instead of finger scanning at least when it comes to work. We have to scan in/out of work with our finger no finger scan no pay, but I don't get it how does the scan machine know its me! Yes the finger print right but we can use any finger till it does and if it still doesn't verify we punch in our number then scan till it does work. Its crazy and happens all the time with everyone, I find rubbing my finger on my clothes before I scan works sometimes. Bring back the clock in cards they never failed.


I understand that they measure the space between each ridge on your print and they say that no two are alike I always thought that they measured just a certain finger I presume that you could have every finger scanned though.:hmmm:

The Japanese also have some device that can see the vesicular system of your hand and they claim that this is unique as well to each person.Then you also have the retina scanners.


They like using the bio metrics because then you can not just have your pal punch you in or out so it is a control thing that part is probably obvious.They can also keep track of where you go if they have a scanner at every major door.With the cock in cards anyone can use it not just the "owner".

Maybe they will start scanning your eyes to make sure that you are a human and not a replicant some day like Blade Runner.

An even more important question is what will happen when our machines truly become smarter than we are?You know the technological singularity.

[Oberon]

With the cock in cards anyone can use it not just the "owner".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Sigmund_Freud_LIFE.jpg/200px-Sigmund_Freud_LIFE.jpg


But, nitpicks at typos aside (as amusing as they are), Tarjak has a point in that any 'chip' system is open to abuse, and until that is fixed then I doubt it will be implemented.

[Herr-Berbunch]

At my wife's school they introduced a biometric system for ordering/obtaining lunches (so no cash, no bullying or theft of cash). There were some failings with it, one of the biggest was a set of twins who had identical portions of their fingerprints. Their fingerprints are different but the system only takes about four or five points on each print.