The Elders Scrolls: Online

[Biggles]

Yep, it's official:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/03/june-cover-revealed-the-elder-scrolls-online.aspx

Just thought I'd mention it... :smug:

[BossMark]

I thought Aprils fools day was last Month??

[Takeda Shingen]

I am rather depressed to see this. Let us hope that it will not deter future single-player RPGs in the series.

[Ducimus]

Oh yea, another skinner box (http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/the-skinner-box) you pay 15 bucks a month for.

No thanks.

Signed
- Former MMORPG addict.

[Krauter]

I think the idea to have a multiplayer aspect the the TES series is a good one. I will honestly say that I've often thought about how cool it would be to have a buddy play along with me in the same world.

However my gut feeling is that this game will turn into some quasi WoW clone.

[mookiemookie]

My face when I heard that they were taking my beloved Elder Scrolls and turning it into a crappy MMO

http://i.imgur.com/I8CZK.gif

[Krauter]

My face when I heard that they were taking my beloved Elder Scrolls and turning it into a crappy MMO

http://i.imgur.com/I8CZK.gif


Going through /r/skyrim has me seeing the same thing. The appeal that the TES games offer is through your own personal interactions and exploring an immersive world.

With an MMO this won't be possible. They're simply setting up another medieval MMO set in Tamriel without any Lore and background..

[SgtPotato]

They're going to use the Hero Engine.

Yep... the same one that TORtanic have.

:doh:

[Ducimus]

For me, this is the ultimate contradiction. Games like Oblivion, skyrim, Fallout 3, fallout NV, are why i stopped playing MMO's, aside from seeing through the facade of it all.

Here's the thing, there is nothing you can't do in an MMO, that you can't do in a TES game, or Fallout game, for free, with the power to change design decisions you don't like. Another point, what's the first thing people ask about MMOs? "How is the soloablity?"

So let me think this through, i can do everything in a TES game or fallout game that i can do in an MMO for free, and they have excellent soloablity. Why an MMO again?

[kiwi_2005]

Yes! :rock:

Well I love my mmo's so I'm happy about this. I would laugh if Elder Scroll online became the true WoW killer. SWOTOR failed, the frames per sec lagg in pvp was the killer where i no longer play that mmo, dont know if they have fixed it, last time I read they still haven't its like they cannot fix this bug. I don't fancy going back.

An Elder Scroll online will work, :yep: people are sick of WoW but there is no better MMO to replace it. Please let it be Elder Scrolls online.

See you online in 2013 , Your find me in the taverns getting into fist fights with the newbies :D

[mookiemookie]

Here's Game Informer's June feature on it. Looks like it'll appeal to the WoW junkies (read: not me)

http://imgur.com/a/fO9Ty#3

[HunterICX]

http://gifs.imgdumpr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/wtf.gif

HunterICX

[Ducimus]

Yes! :rock:

Well I love my mmo's so I'm happy about this. I would laugh if Elder Scroll online became the true WoW killer. SWOTOR failed,

A video for you sir.
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/the-future-of-mmos

It would be my suggestion to not get your hopes up.

[Skybird]

http://www.smileygarden.de/smilie/Sauer/91.gif (http://www.smileygarden.de)

[mookiemookie]

Mike Kirkbride, the driving force behind the bulk of TES lore as we know it was denied a job working on TESO. That says it all. Forgive my neckbeardiness on Elder Scrolls lore, but I'm a big fan of the setting and the universe. This is just a cheap attempt to cash in on the Elder Scrolls name. Kicking Kirkbride to the curb says quite a bit about how Zenimax feels about making this fit into the Elder Scrolls canon.

[Takeda Shingen]

Mike Kirkbride, the driving force behind the bulk of TES lore as we know it was denied a job working on TESO. That says it all. Forgive my neckbeardiness on Elder Scrolls lore, but I'm a big fan of the setting and the universe. This is just a cheap attempt to cash in on the Elder Scrolls name. Kicking Kirkbride to the curb says quite a bit about how Zenimax feels about making this fit into the Elder Scrolls canon.

This. Screw TESO.

[Ducimus]

Well they've posted the usual trailer hype.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I6m9-Dret0U

From bits and rumor's ive read over the last month, it will probably be something resembeling Dark Age of Camelot, set in whatever time period the Ancient Nord civilization was around, with three factions that are somehow affiliated or tied to some of the totemic runes we see in Skyrim dungeons. (snake, eagle, whale, etc)

[mookiemookie]

This. Screw TESO.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1371463-what-will-we-do-about-elder-scrolls-online/page__st__30__p__20722888#entry20722888

Well they've posted the usual trailer hype.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I6m9-Dret0U

From bits and rumor's ive read over the last month, it will probably be something resembeling Dark Age of Camelot, set in whatever time period the Ancient Nord civilization was around, with three factions that are somehow affiliated or tied to some of the totemic runes we see in Skyrim dungeons. (snake, eagle, whale, etc)

It's set in the Second Era, in the Interregnum before Tiber Septim (or Talos if you prefer) unified Tamriel into the Empire and took the throne. The factions are the Aldmeri Dominion, consisting of Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit, and they control Alinor, Elsweyr, and Valenwood.

The Daggerfall Covenant, consisting of Orcs, Bretons, and Redguards, control High Rock and Hammerfell. Why the Orcs would ally themselves with Bretons is beyond me.

The Ebonheart Pact, consisting of Dunmer, Argonians, and Nords, control Skyrim, Morrowind, and Black Marsh. Yes, the same Dunmer who fought the Nords during the War of the First Council. Yes, the same Dunmer who enslaved the Argonians. So sure, it would make perfect sense for those three to be in alliance. :88):doh:

The whole thing is a trainwreck from a lore standpoint. And that's all the nerd rage you're gonna get from me today. :rotfl2:

[darius359au]

I'm going to wait and see before I make my mind up ,it's still too early at the moment and like any mmo the early information always changes as they get closer to release!
Bethesda/Zenimax must know how big the fan base for the elder scrolls is and how much time people have sunk into the games,(I started with Arena waaaayyy back in 94!) ,and they'd be crazy to change things too much ,of course I might be being a little too optimistic about things with zenimax's "Give us the money" attitude but it's still a case of wait and see.

[Ducimus]

I'm going to wait and see before I make my mind up ,it's still too early at the moment and like any mmo the early information always changes as they get closer to release!


I'm not going to play it because it's an MMO. I emphasized the "like any MMO", because all MMO's are alike in terms of core gameplay, all that changes is the wrapper. Sure some minor mechanics vary here or there, but the core design is always the same.

1. Start off by killing rats or by doing quests.
2. Get "bigger" (IE level) so you can kill bigger stuff to get better stuff.
3. Goto 2 until you max level.
4. The mythical endgame where the game sucks even more time out of your life to acquire gear that will be obsolete in the next expansion so you can do better in PvP or raiding to aqcuire more gear so you get better to acquire more gear.
5. Go to 4 when next expansion is released.

Hell, i can summarize all this with one picture:
http://www.ducimus.net/mmorpg/gameplay.jpg

This is the MMORPG. You run on an endless treadmill chasing the carrot all the while 15 dollars a month falls out of your pockets that the developer scoops up.

I've played enough of these damn MMORPG's, and wasted untold hours of my life on them to know. They all play out the same way. Gameplay wise, they are all turds. A developer may shine and polish the wrapper so you'll get a shiny turd, but it's still a turd.

[Spike88]

Here's Game Informer's June feature on it. Looks like it'll appeal to the WoW junkies (read: not me)

http://imgur.com/a/fO9Ty#3




Damn, was hoping the June Issue of GI would be GTA V.

[Biggles]

Yeah MMORPGs are all the same...a well done MMOFPS might be very good though...like WWII Online.

[Iron Budokan]

Yeah, I'm not too sure about this, either. Looks to me like they're just jumping on the MMO bandwagon. (Which is already overcrowded, in case they haven't noticed.)

[Biggles]

Yeah, I'm not too sure about this, either. Looks to me like they're just jumping on the MMO bandwagon. (Which is already overcrowded, in case they haven't noticed.)


You talking about TES here right? 'cause WWIIO has been around since 2001 :O:

[Ducimus]

Blech. (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_elder_scrolls_online/b/pc/archive/2012/05/04/first-screen-and-details-surrounding-elders-scrolls-online.aspx?PageIndex=4)


Blech X 2 (http://www.gamepur.com/news/7955-elder-scrolls-online-gameinformer-scans-and-first-screenshots.html)


EDIT:

Second link, 8th picture. I can see it now..... "Someone yells, CAMP CHECK!"

[Kapitän Schneider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6m9-Dret0U&feature=player_embedded

They've even recruited Dumbledore to narrate now.

[Red October1984]

No. No. No. No. The Elder Scrolls cannot be DESTROYED by a crappy MMO that is being crapped out. I am a hardcore TES player. Ever since Morrowind. I want a Skyrim gameplay+ability to travel to any tamriel province+some Morrowind elements=The Greatest TES Game Made. Xbox 360/PS3/PC

[NeonSamurai]

Yeah MMORPGs are all the same...a well done MMOFPS might be very good though...like WWII Online.

One of my all time favorites at least early on was Planetside. Man that was an awesome game at the beginning (particularly late beta). Unfortunately like all their titles, SOE decided to mess with it and turned it into rubbish (like my other favorite MMORPG Star Wars Galaxies).

Never has there been a publisher, that has been better at taking a really awesome game that they have at release, and totally trashing it with stupid changes.


As for MMORPGs I'll pass. They are all the same and gigantic time sinks too, plus I just find them tediously repetitive. After unlocking and grinding out a Jedi character (and a bounty hunter alt) in SWG, I'm never going to do that again.

[Ducimus]

One of my all time favorites at least early on was Planetside. Man that was an awesome game at the beginning (particularly late beta). Unfortunately like all their titles, SOE decided to mess with it and turned it into rubbish (like my other favorite MMORPG Star Wars Galaxies).
.

I was TR on Markov. (42nd Fire Ant Brigade) Here's a video some dude from an allied outfit took of some of our better times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJOAbNURBQk

Planetside was probably the best MMO action ive ever had.

As SWG is concerned originally i was a rifleman/ ranger on bria, harvesting a crapton of avian meat for doc's for massive profit. When JTL was launched, it was all pilot all the time.

All and all, those were good times.

[kiwi_2005]

As for the grinding, wait and see how Guild Wars 2 mmo turns out as they claim they have taken away the grinding and few other things like tanking - the tank player now has to have the skill to keep alive & not just rely on a healer. But if the no grinding works Elder Scrolls online devs should look into it. I am suspecting the no grinding in GW2 will really be meaningful quests instead of go collect 20 bear skins quests. Plus another thing with GW2 there wont be npc quest givers everywhere instead as you roam round the world you will trigger quests. If this all works (GW fan here) it might change the way mmos are today.

[Iron Budokan]

You talking about TES here right? 'cause WWIIO has been around since 2001 :O:

Yes, I was talking about TES. :)

[Feuer Frei!]

Shamelessly necro-ing here because:

Beta-testing Phase will begin at the end of this month. Including invites being sent out. Beta d/l client is around 20GB! Good luck with that if you get in :haha:, see here for more details:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2013/03/01/your-beta-questions-answered

The Elder Scrolls Online-Gameplay Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YlEipFtHw7o)

[kiwi_2005]

Changes from Skyrim to Elder Scrolls Online

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8aQUAGnV-Y

changes

Third person only.

NPC's wont sleep.

Mods = not possible.

Graphics watered down.

Lvl requirment on weapons & armors.

New armors.

New Lore

PvP

[Takeda Shingen]

Changes from Skyrim to Elder Scrolls Online

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8aQUAGnV-Y

changes

Third person only.

NPC's wont sleep.

Mods = not possible.

Graphics watered down.

Lvl requirment on weapons & armors.

New armors.

New Lore

PvP

3rd person. How the hell are you supposed to use a bow? And yeah, this is Elder Scrolls in name only.

[kiwi_2005]

3rd person. How the hell are you supposed to use a bow? And yeah, this is Elder Scrolls in name only.

im guessing it will be no different to WoW's hunter, click or tab key a target and fire away, you can't miss unless the target out distance you same for casters as well. Alls not lost for the melee player though. If the Warrior gets a charge spell probably be all over for the hunter.

[Feuer Frei!]

Mods = not possible.
That's disappointing tbh. So no 3rd party mods allowed? GUI, Addons developed by community, eg like WoW. Maybe in the future they open it up. Fingers crossed.

Graphics watered down.
Shame. One of the biggest drawcards of this game is the gfx. Although, being online, gfx are going to be limited, due to being able to market to a broader Demographic. Latency, gfx cards not the newest, older PC's, Students(who can't afford a new PC, etc etc. From that point it makes sense, although i do wonder what level of watering down it will be?

Lvl requirment on weapons & armors.
Ilvs, i get that.

[kiwi_2005]

That's disappointing tbh. So no 3rd party mods allowed? GUI, Addons developed by community, eg like WoW. Maybe in the future they open it up. Fingers crossed.
Yes addons would be great, like you said maybe later providing there's a big enough community


Shame. One of the biggest drawcards of this game is the gfx. Although, being online, gfx are going to be limited, due to being able to market to a broader Demographic. Latency, gfx cards not the newest, older PC's, Students(who can't afford a new PC, etc etc. From that point it makes sense, although i do wonder what level of watering down it will be?Im guessing the option in game will be there for high end machines. The only way for this mmo to survive is to draw the numbers - WoW SWOTOR players over to SO. Keep the gfx watered down to min at default.

[donna52522]

I don't care for Jehovah Dragons knocking at my door during my lunch....

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j408/donna577/2012-12-17_00005_zps68e1f786.jpg