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Well I got an answer for that, but first, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9GuwuOVZc ok got that out of my system, We are sorry that we are the greatest nation and people on the planet, we are sorry that your people look to us, for hope and freedom. We are sorry that your people have to come here to escape, from tyranny, oppression, and other human rights issues, we are also sorry that you put government before your people. https://mninews.deutsche-boerse.com/index.php/update-china-wants-us-apology-after-dissident-embassy-stay?q=content/update-china-wants-us-apology-after-dissident-embassy-stay I'm sorry for the delay, I'm sorry I edit my works, I'm sorry the news that you get is to the left of Lenin
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Tribesman
05-02-12, 12:27 PM
We are sorry that we are greatest nation and people on the planet, we are sorry that your people look to us, for hope and freedom.
So does that mean your current president is the best politician in the world chosen by the greatest people on the planet and the chinese people are looking to you and him with hope of freedom and yubba supports them in their dreams of glorious obamadon which shall spread the world over?:hmmm:
mookiemookie
05-02-12, 12:50 PM
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nikimcbee
05-02-12, 01:12 PM
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nikimcbee
05-02-12, 01:14 PM
dreams of glorious obamadon which shall spread the world over.
The correct term is "Obamunism." Obamadon I think is some sort of dinosaur.:hmmm:
Betonov
05-02-12, 01:21 PM
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I really don't know if I want to be aroused or completely disquisted :doh::dead:
Rockstar
05-02-12, 01:47 PM
Yubba you do remember Bill Clinton made it possible to sell China our rocket technology right? Well this 'incident' has obviously been planned by China as a return favor to bring Hiliary Clinton to the forefront of international politics. This will give her some excellent public relations to get her elected as the next president of U.S. Which in turn will of course benefit China once again.
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mookiemookie
05-02-12, 02:29 PM
How I feel coming home to my own bathroom after being on vacation:
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Jimbuna
05-02-12, 04:13 PM
I really don't know if I want to be aroused or completely disquisted :doh::dead:
Similar thoughts :hmmm:
Takeda Shingen
05-02-12, 04:15 PM
It is customary to post a link to an article about an event when starting a thread about said event. Or is this just trolling now?
So does that mean your current president is the best politician in the world chosen by the greatest people on the planet and the chinese people are looking to you and him with hope of freedom and yubba supports them in their dreams of glorious obamadon which shall spread the world over?:hmmm:
I'm sorry that our current government has strayed from the constitution, I'm sorry that we have a knot head in the white house, I'm sorry that Bill Clinton sold us out to China, I'm sorry that your May Day party didn't work out, I'm sorry that communism doesn't work, and I'm so so sorry that capitalism and free trade works. I am sorry that I got family members that died in normandy that I never meant, so I'm sorry that you ain't speakin german and eatin kraut with chop sticks, I am also sorry that some people would rather be ruled with a iron fist and a boot on their throat than be free. I'm sorry that I didn't post a link at the start real life events kept me from, figured some would listen to the news. I'm sorry some can't google
It is customary to post a link to an article about an event when starting a thread about said event. Or is this just trolling now?
https://mninews.deutsche-boerse.com/index.php/update-china-wants-us-apology-after-dissident-embassy-stay?q=content/update-china-wants-us-apology-after-dissident-embassy-stay I'm sorry for the delay.
Stealhead
05-02-12, 04:44 PM
It is customary to post a link to an article about an event when starting a thread about said event. Or is this just trolling now?
Well he is not trolling Yubba is expressing he feelings towards the idea of the US apologizing as being hilarious therefore he shows a link to an excessive laugh by Tom Hanks.
Well he is not trolling Yubba is expressing he feelings towards the idea of the US apologizing as being hilarious therefore he shows a link to an excessive laugh by Tom Hanks.
Give that man a cookie, I'm sorry I'm all out
Takeda Shingen
05-02-12, 05:25 PM
Well he is not trolling Yubba is expressing he feelings towards the idea of the US apologizing as being hilarious therefore he shows a link to an excessive laugh by Tom Hanks.
Reread my first sentence. Yubba has put up a series of threads over the past few days that have discussed world events with no article link, or at least not one until reminded to edit one in. This is considered to be poor 'nettiquite'. As such, it is my job to remind him of said nettiquite, to which he has complied. It should also serve as a friendly reminder to all members. Adherence to such mores facilitates easier interaction for all our members.
I'm sorry that my word is not good enough , I'm sorry I was being lazy, I'm sorry some are lazier than I, I'm sorry that the news most of you get is to the Left of Lenin, I'm sorry I didn't know a opinion needed a link. I'm sorry I edit my works.
Tribesman
05-02-12, 07:18 PM
I'm sorry that our current government has strayed from the constitution, I'm sorry that we have a knot head in the white house, I'm sorry that Bill Clinton sold us out to China, I'm sorry that your May Day party didn't work out, I'm sorry that communism doesn't work, and I'm so so sorry that capitalism and free trade works. I am sorry that I got family members that died in normandy that I never meant, so I'm sorry that you ain't speakin german and eatin kraut with chop sticks, I am also sorry that some people would rather be ruled with a iron fist and a boot on their throat than be free. I'm sorry that I didn't post a link at the start real life events kept me from, figured some would listen to the news. I'm sorry some can't google
You are right, you are sorry.
Yep, and I'm sorry that I'm not done, I'm sorry some, supports a government that cares more about what goes on in baseball than what goes on, on our borders, I'm sorry that we have some in this country that will, betray our very way of life, I'm sorry we try to live in peace with peoples who hate us because we are a free people.
Yep, and I'm sorry that I'm not done, I'm sorry some, supports a government that cares more about what goes on in baseball than what goes on, on our borders, I'm sorry that we have some in this country that will, betray our very way of life, I'm sorry we try to live in peace with peoples who hate us because we are a free people.
I presume that you have written to your local senator/congressman and told him such. If not, why not?
I presume that you have written to your local senator/congressman and told him such. If not, why not?
I'm really not sorry that I haven't, they don't listen, though they heard from folk like me in 2010 I'm sorry that Dems didn't loose more seats, maybe in Nov 2012, and I really don't want to be on a list, and I don't want too stand next to a freshly dug ditch. I figure there is enough government types in here anyway, it's good enough that my rants go all over the world and I keep you entertained, and make the liberals heads pop off their shoulders
I'm really not sorry that I haven't, they don't listen, and I really don't want to be on a list, and I don't want too stand next to a freshly dug ditch. I figure there is enough government types in here anyway,
So, other than writing about it on a forum, what have you done to seek the change in government you want to see?
Well I haven't pooped on any police cars, I guess I could apply for foodstamps, and get on medicare, get a free phone, and milk the system, which I qualify for, but haven't, It's a full time job to find enough stuff to do too survive, if it hadn't been for some good folks, I'd be in the woods., I got a garden going so I don't have to go down to the church and take from ones that might need it more than I, I'm sorry that more folks go to these churches to get food than go to these churches on sunday. So what are you doing to better your country I see you folks are on the brink worst than us.????
Well I haven't pooped on any police cars, I guess I could apply for foodstamps, and get on medicare, get a free phone, and milk the system, which I qualify for, but haven't, It's a full time job to find enough stuff to do too survive, if it hadn't been for some good folks, I'd be in the woods. So what are you doing to better your country I see you folks are on the brink worst than us.????
Indeed we are, but we try to keep our political rants in one thread. :03: Apathy is the rule of the day because at the end of the day there is absolutely nothing that you can do to change the political system, not even voting does a damn thing any more.
However, what is the alternative? An 'X' Spring? A military government? Fascism? Communism?
Indeed we are, but we try to keep our political rants in one thread. :03: Apathy is the rule of the day because at the end of the day there is absolutely nothing that you can do to change the political system, not even voting does a damn thing any more.
However, what is the alternative? An 'X' Spring? A military government? Fascism? Communism?
You know me I'm all over the place, things change, and will change the Amerian people won't stand for it, it's the calm before the storm, governments come and go same with tyrants, this government is broke money wise and the bank of china tires of us, and crooks in DC are looking for an out.
You know me I'm all over the place, things change, and will change the Amerian people won't stand for it, it's the calm before the storm, governments come and go same with tyrants, this government is broke money wise and the bank of china tires of us, and crooks in DC are looking for an out.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"?
Maybe, the current systems certainly are not sustainable, in particular the economic system.
Will the American people rise up against their government? I find it unlikely, if I'm honest (at the moment) because so long as people have their basic needs (whatever they define those to be) met, then they will be content to ignore government and live their daily lives.
China cannot, and will not, take action against the United States of America within the next five years, possibly not even for another ten. If the PRC were to take economic action against the US tomorrow then it would be in the middle of a civil war by Tuesday. Yes, the US economy would suffer, but the PRC would be destroyed. Beijing knows this, Washington knows this, which is why there is this uncomfortable state of detente, with the occasional squabble and demands for apologies, etc.
If and when the PRC is able to stabilise its economy to one which does not rely on flogging cheap goods to anyone who will buy it, THEN it will be able to challenge the US, but not a second before it because if the US falls, China follows.
In terms of financial problems, well that is going to get worse before it gets better, but it will get better, did the US population rise up against Hoover? Was Roosevelt put in power by a popular coup? No, the US system went through its standard process of electing a new leader. Sure there were rises in political groups, including the isolationists...who I note with amusement are seemingly on the rise again...and communists and even fascists, because people will turn to extremism if they perceive their day to day lifestyle to be in jeopardy.
I think that it's pretty much a given now that Obama, short of declaring himself on national television to be a jew-hating, puppy killing, muslim extremist, illegal immigrant from Iran, will win this years election, which flies in the face of the 'One and Done' crowd. However, like Hoover, he will not turn around the depression, and by 2016 the Republicans will have their act together, a Republican president will be elected, just in time for the depression to start wearing off.
These things happen in cycles, just thank your lucky stars that this is not the 1920s, and you're not living in a Hooverville. It could be a lot worse. Will it get a lot worse? Possibly, no-one can say for certain, and for some people already it is as bad as the 1920s, but even back then, the US government held, and it will continue to hold, through good presidents and through bad.
Stealhead
05-03-12, 12:36 AM
Reread my first sentence. Yubba has put up a series of threads over the past few days that have discussed world events with no article link, or at least not one until reminded to edit one in. This is considered to be poor 'nettiquite'. As such, it is my job to remind him of said nettiquite, to which he has complied. It should also serve as a friendly reminder to all members. Adherence to such mores facilitates easier interaction for all our members.
That may be true but yubba is not violating any of the forum rules per say he just has his own style it is different I will give you that but I do not think that it is harmful meant to violate the rules well not the rules that I can see under FAQs and Rules.With all due respect.If anything yubba is fairly respectful I have seen others send very obvious jabs at him(there is one in this very thread a few posts after your last) yet yubba did not retaliate in kind a lot of members have hard time doing that.
Tribesman
05-03-12, 03:19 AM
.If anything yubba is fairly respectful I have seen others send very obvious jabs at him(there is one in this very thread a few posts after your last) yet yubba did not retaliate in kind a lot of members have hard time doing that.
That "jab" is a direct and accurate comment on the absolute nonsense that was quoted.
However he says he posts with the intention of making peoples heads pop off their shoulders, which does suggest he is trolling. Unfortunately for him the result is more of a shaking of the head in disbelief and pity.
What is hilarious is the subject and how he thinks it is laughable the way the current government is acting over china, yet the current government is acting exactly the same as all the other governments have for the past 60 years since they realised the reality they faced.....which takes several of his other rants in this topic and shows them up as real nonsense.
Blood_splat
05-03-12, 08:12 AM
China is a such a great business partner.
Tribesman
05-03-12, 08:36 AM
China is a such a great business partner.
China is what it is, I am sorry that the worlds "greatest nation" and "greatest people" have been powerless to do anything about it for the past 60 years apart from bend over and kiss their.......
Well I got an answer for that, but first, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9GuwuOVZc ok got that out of my system, We are sorry that we are the greatest nation and people on the planet, we are sorry that your people look to us, for hope and freedom. We are sorry that your people have to come here to escape, from tyranny, oppression, and other human rights issues, we are also sorry that you put government before your people. https://mninews.deutsche-boerse.com/index.php/update-china-wants-us-apology-after-dissident-embassy-stay?q=content/update-china-wants-us-apology-after-dissident-embassy-stay I'm sorry for the delay, I'm sorry I edit my works, I'm sorry the news that you get is to the left of Lenin
Yet you still you have to be diplomatic with the chinese, otherwise they could just stop buying your US treasury bonds and then the greatest nation on earth will have the greatest bankrupcy on earth. :hmmm: Say what you like about China, but weather you like it or not they are playing a big part in keeping the USA afloat at the moment.
Yep, can you say butt clentch, wow a government that might have to live within it's means :har::har::har::har::har::har::har: socialism it's great till you run out someone elses money, 16 trillion dollars in debt I know none of it has trickled down to me or others I know.
Tribesman
05-03-12, 10:46 AM
Yep, can you say butt clentch, wow a government that might have to live within it's means :har::har::har::har::har::har::har: socialism it's great till you run out someone elses money, 16 trillion dollars in debt I know none of it has trickled down to me or others I know.
wow the faults of socialism and the perils of mythical trickle down free market economics all in one rant
Confused much?
Yet you still you have to be diplomatic with the chinese
Yes, when the current mission is begging for china to relax its exchange rates to make American exports more competative and begging for them to sell more resources on the open market so America can buy them for the high tech industries and begging for them to buy more US goods to lessen the trade defecit and begging for them to keep a muzzle on their pet lunatic in Pyongyang and begging for them to stop playing silly buggers in east africa then it does suggest you have to be very diplomatic.
Yep, can you say butt clentch, wow a government that might have to live within it's means :har::har::har::har::har::har::har: socialism it's great till you run out someone elses money, 16 trillion dollars in debt I know none of it has trickled down to me or others I know.
You make a very broad generalisation there, after all this debt did not appear overnight as soon as Obama was elected. Furthermore, if one compares the current debt as a percentage of GDP with that held during World War II and the Roosevelt years then it's actually a drop in the ocean. Of course, US GDP was lower back then so it's hard to scale it accordingly.
I believe that it's agreed upon that this 16 trillion dollar debt started with the race to outspend the Soviet Union, which ultimately destroyed itself trying to keep up. Looking at a graph of Gross debt/Public debt, and even one of debt/GDP you can clearly see that the graph was in a downward motion until around the early 1980s when it starts going up again.
However, if you look at the Outlay vs Revenue graph you can see that during the 1990s Revenue outstripped Outlay and consequently the debt began to decrease, and then post-2001 the Outlay went up again and here we are.
So, one cannot really link it to one particular president or party, certainly there are a couple that one could link it to if they particularly wanted, but then you have to also look at who controlled the Senate and Congress during that period.
This makes a good graph:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Federal_Debt_1901-2010.png
As you can see, debt went down in the 104-106 Senate which was Republican lead, but the President was a Democrat, likewise you can have a democrat President but a Republican Senate/Congress and have the debt go down or up. Socialism just does not come into it. Ambitious schemes that you simply cannot pay for comes into it, whether that is a national welfare scheme, or trying to build a bigger military than you can afford to run. Both sides are at fault, and the sooner that bi-partisan politics is put to bed and the two sides actually co-operate on the matter then the sooner the US can set about reducing the debt.
I know, pot kettle black, the UK isn't exactly a shining example of cross-party co-operation, and we're just as sick of it as you are. Most Politicians these days have forgotten who they were elected by, who they were elected to serve, and that they're there not to line their own pockets. Which is why voter epathy is on the rise in some countries, and more extremist groups are on the rise in others as people are just simply fed up of the status quo and they look for alternatives, be it Geert Wilders, Hollande or the Tea Party.
The whole problem of this is, We the People didn't ask for this, we didn' t tell the government that it was ok to spend us into oblivion, when we told them to stop they spent more, now we got this knot head in the white house saying that they got too redistrabute wealth, so if any of you smart guys can show me where in the constitution it says the President can redistrabute wealth, I'll stand down.
The whole problem of this is, We the People didn't ask for this, we didn' t tell the government that it was ok to spend us into oblivion, when we told them to stop they spent more, now we got this knot head in the white house saying that they got too redistrabute wealth, so if any of you smart guys can show me where in the constitution it says the President can redistrabute wealth, I'll stand down.
Yes, but surely unless he uses an Executive Decision he can't 'redistribute wealth' without putting it through Congress and the Senate, which, by the Constitution:
All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
As for not asking for it, well, I'm sure many people cheered on Ronald Reagan when he increased the military budget to challenge the Soviet Union, and many people have cheered on a better American welfare system. When you say 'The people' it's a very big generalisation, because, as anyone will tell you, if a President gets it right, then people will forget his mistakes, and if he gets it wrong then his mistakes won't be forgotten.
Out of interest though, when did 'The people' tell the US government to stop spending? Furthermore, would 'The people' have accepted the cut in the standard of living or the loss of military prowness that such cuts would have entailed?
The whole problem of this is, We the People didn't ask for this, we didn' t tell the government that it was ok to spend us into oblivion, when we told them to stop they spent more, now we got this knot head in the white house saying that they got too redistrabute wealth, so if any of you smart guys can show me where in the constitution it says the President can redistrabute wealth, I'll stand down.
Dont stand down, I think your on the right track with this, though you must also then accept that also no where in the consitution does it say you can print money, sacrafice liberty for security or invade other countries etc ;)
Ron Pauls your man when it comes to following the constitution, While I'm not a fellow American, I got to say that Ron paul makes more sense to me than just about any politican i can think of in my life time. in fact Im kinda jealous that we dont have a Ron Paul type guy in the UK.
I dont agree with RP on absolutley everything, (no one person is ever 100% right on everything) but Imho he seems to be a step in the right direction for America at this point in time (and possibly for most of the western world too)
Whats the alternative, Romney or Obama? or 'Robama' as they are refered to now - since they are one in the same. A pair of pro big government flip-floppers sponsored by Goldman $achs who are both more than happy to trample the constitution into the mud :). You can pretty much tell what you will get from a president or leader, going by their track record rather than what they will tell you. Obama is a bad president, but Mitt Romney is Joke too, does this clown actually have an opinion on anything?
I used to consider my self center-left, but if RP represents true conserveratism, you can consider me converted. Honestely though, isn't all this Left vs Right wing politics in western democracy is pretty much dead?
Isn't it just a puppet show they continue to play out for all the little people like us, so that we naively believe we actually have some democratic power over government? when in fact we pretty much have our two party dictatorships that have largely sold them selves out to the highest bidder. Mega Banks/Oil companies/Arms manufacturers etc.
Whoever is in power, it never really changes does it? Our governments continue to expand, chip away at our civil liberties (by fear mongering) and gradually gain more and more control over all different aspects of our lives.
Its not that governments and mega co-orperations are all pure evil, its simply a problem of greed and corruption... That unfortunatley is just the way alot of us human beings roll..
But anyway its pretty obvious that the game is rigged.
Also a great quote I heard recently:
"Congressmen should wear NASCAR uniforms so we can see who their sponsors are" :D
Takeda Shingen
05-03-12, 03:35 PM
That may be true but yubba is not violating any of the forum rules per say he just has his own style it is different I will give you that but I do not think that it is harmful meant to violate the rules well not the rules that I can see under FAQs and Rules.With all due respect.If anything yubba is fairly respectful I have seen others send very obvious jabs at him(there is one in this very thread a few posts after your last) yet yubba did not retaliate in kind a lot of members have hard time doing that.
And as such he has not been infracted, nor has he been in danger of any moderating action. I simply reminded him of basic internet mores that, if adhered to, will cause the membership to take him more seriously. Things like posting links to articles, using punctuation and even capitalizing proper nouns are little things that mean a lot in the long run.
Just some guiding tidbits from the Takeda School of Goodposting.
Gee thanks guys, now I'm all misty eyed now where is that hanky. Now comes the hard part we must say, no to this madness, here say it with me, no, see how easy that was, rolls right off the tongue, now here's something alittle harder WE THE PEOPLE SAY NO TO THIS MADNESS. let it be heard around the world, we are all in this together, you all got countries to save, and to hell with the new world order if it applies. A little bit over the top that's what I thought http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayO1wtXbh_Q
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