I've got the original IL-2 Sturmovik...and need help.

[Red October1984]

I want to run this on my windows 7 home premium laptop, but when I put the disc in, the autorun doesn't start and the setup won't run. So I am confined to a dinosaur windows 98 desktop in a cold room. Help please!

[Kapitän Schneider]

I have this problem a lot. Have you tried looking on the disc and clicking on set up and install there? It usually takes a few minutes to kick in to install, it's a real pain.

[HunterICX]

^Yep,

Happens to me too on Win7, you just go to My Computer right-click your DVD drive and click Open then either Setup.exe should work or that other one called a.exe if it's IL2 1946.

HunterICX

[Herr Trigger]

As above, My Computer, DVD drive, Open, right click setup.exe select run as administrator.

[Red October1984]

Ok. I'll try again. I really like the old IL-2. I got it in the strategic simulations commanders pack thingy with Silent Hunter 2 and Flanker 2.5. I started a new German fighter career the other day and I got 34 kills air and ground already.

[HunterICX]

Ok. I'll try again. I really like the old IL-2. I got it in the strategic simulations commanders pack thingy with Silent Hunter 2 and Flanker 2.5. I started a new German fighter career the other day and I got 34 kills air and ground already.

Let us know if you got it sorted :salute:
because I've got the original IL2 (not 1946) lying around somewhere so if it doesn't work I could give it a look.

HunterICX

[Skybird]

These days the fully patched all-packs-ioncluded 1946edition of the whole series can beh had for 5 bucks, if one is lucky and visits the right store at the right time. ;)

For it, an update was made available some time ago that improved the very predictable AI in dogfight.

People really wanting a challenge in WWII-dogfighting, go for the old package Battle of Britain 2 with the latest patch. Battles are monumental (hundreds of planes, if wanted), physics is better, and fighting is tougher. Speed feeds back on stick, and enemy is very difficult to spot. It is more realistic and, again, difficult.

[Red October1984]

I'm in the process of running setup.exe as admin. Is there a patch somewhere to update this to 1946 version or do I have to pay for the 1946 version seperately?

[Schroeder]

physics is better.
I only played the game for a couple of hours and shelved it because I found the physics to be lacking (and some other issues). I don't know anymore what it was exactly but something was very wrong with the physics ( I think slipping didn't slow the plane down or something like that and some other stuff that I found wrong).

[Schroeder]

I'm in the process of running setup.exe as admin. Is there a patch somewhere to update this to 1946 version or do I have to pay for the 1946 version seperately?
1946 has to be bought indepenantly and is not compatible with the original Il2 (although pretty much everything of the original Il2 has been transferred to 1946)

[Red October1984]

Running as admin did not work. I can't seem to run setup.

[Dowly]

Running as admin did not work. I can't seem to run setup.

You can get IL2 1946 for $9.99 from GoG.com:
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/il_2_sturmovik_1946

[Red October1984]

I got the game working. I copied every file from the disc to a desktop folder and patched up. Then I just ran il2.exe

[Herr-Berbunch]

1946 is even cheaper on Amazon, and you'll obviously use the SUBSIM.com link... :yep:

I'd recommend plumping for 1946 over the original, it's like a squillion games in one - alright, a handful - and then get HSFX5 (and patch) and UP3+DBW, all three are supermods, HSFX is great for online and UP3+DBW are best offline, I think HSFX and UP3 both come with JSGME so mod control is easy. UP3 needs to be (iirc) there for DBW to run, but worth it.

[Red October1984]

Will 1946 run on windows 98? Because my flight stick won't install and calibrate correctly. I'll have to keep playing on my 98 desktop in the cold room until I get a new flight stick. I don't want to pay for a new one yet.

[Skybird]

I only played the game for a couple of hours and shelved it because I found the physics to be lacking (and some other issues). I don't know anymore what it was exactly but something was very wrong with the physics ( I think slipping didn't slow the plane down or something like that and some other stuff that I found wrong).
Did you run the latest mod-patch by A2A?

Some people indeed tend to think the physics are porked a bit, but that simply is that the responsiveness of the plane when at high speeds gets reduced, and far more noticably than IL-2. That'S why in steep dives the stick makes less and lesser effect, it simulates that the pilot needs more and more muscle power to barely move the stick due to the wind hitting the control panels - plus that the plane reacts less and lesser if speed builds up. Same for rudders - with growing speed these planes should be able less and lesser to slip.

IL-2 does not produce this, even at 500 km/h I could slip and get too much reaction from stick input. In BoB2, speed management is a question of survival. Get too fast, and you can get yourself locked in a dive, almost, not to mention that you cannot aim if you cannot align the plane.

It'S difficult, and even can be frustrating if one is new.

[Schroeder]

Did you run the latest mod-patch by A2A?

Some people indeed tend to think the physics are porked a bit, but that simply is that the responsiveness of the plane when at high speeds gets reduced, and far more noticably than IL-2. That'S why in steep dives the stick makes less and lesser effect, it simulates that the pilot needs more and more muscle power to barely move the stick due to the wind hitting the control panels - plus that the plane reacts less and lesser if speed builds up. Same for rudders - with growing speed these planes should be able less and lesser to slip.


I believe I had the latest patch (about half a year ago) and having been a glider pilot in RL I'm fully aware of the heavier stick forces at higher speeds.;)
Doesn't change the fact that I could force the plane into a slip without losing speed or lift.


IL-2 does not produce this, even at 500 km/h I could slip and get too much reaction from stick input.
That's not correct, IL2 does in fact reproduce this. Try a steep dive with a P38 or Me 110 and try to pull out of it. Good luck. You are right though that some of the fighters are still a bit too responsive at high speeds.

[Schroeder]

Will 1946 run on windows 98? Because my flight stick won't install and calibrate correctly. I'll have to keep playing on my 98 desktop in the cold room until I get a new flight stick. I don't want to pay for a new one yet.
First, sorry for hijacking your thread in the previous posts.
Second, If you computer has the power to run it it should run well under Win98. The game is more than 10years old after all. I have never tried it myself though.

[Red October1984]

I would really enjoy 1946 if I get around to ordering it. I do all my simulation shopping online. Pacific Fighters sounds great. Any thoughts on that game?

[Dowly]

Pacific Fighters is part of IL2 1946.

1946 is basically a collection of everything IL2.

[Red October1984]

Awesome. I'm adding 1946 to my "Order" list