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nikimcbee
04-09-12, 07:51 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-08/american-universities-infected-by-foreign-spies-detected-by-fbi.html

I never saw this coming.:haha: Where's J. Edgar when you need him?


Enabling China

Over the years, American universities have enabled China “to leapfrog into the cutting edge of military capability on the way to superpower status,” Richard Fisher, senior fellow on Asian Military Affairs at the International Assessment and Strategy Center in Alexandria, Virginia, said in an e-mail.
Chen Dingchang, the head of a Chinese military-sponsored working group on anti-satellite technology, led a delegation in 1998 to the University of Florida (http://topics.bloomberg.com/florida/) to learn about diamond-coating manufacturing, used in missile seekers and other systems, said Mark Stokes, executive director of the Project 2049 (http://project2049.net/) Institute in Arlington, Virginia, which studies Chinese aerospace technology. In a 1999 report in a Chinese journal, the authors, including Chen, said the university’s cooperation would assist in overcoming a technical bottleneck in China’s development of anti-satellite warheads.


Stanford does not, nor will it, restrict participation of students on the basis of citizenship,” President John Hennessy testified at a January 2010, congressional hearing in Palo Alto, California (http://topics.bloomberg.com/california/). More than half of Stanford’s doctoral candidates in the physical sciences and engineering come from outside the U.S., he said.

Three cheers for the US school system.



Mingled With Professors

“We often targeted academics because their job was to share knowledge and information by teaching it to others, and this made them less guarded than, say, UN diplomats,” Earley quoted Tretyakov as saying. A typical task was to obtain information about “a study of genetically engineered food being done at New York University.”



Interesting article.:hmmm::dead:

vienna
04-09-12, 08:13 PM
Not really new; way back in the 80s, I worked on a student class registration automation project at USC. Almost all the foreign students were registering for classes in the sciences (physics, math, engineereing, etc.), while the "native-born" were registering in MBA business type classes, humanities, etc. Very few of the U.S. students were taking the sciences. The foreign students were mainly from Asia (China, Japan, S. Korea, etc.), the Middle East, and the Near East, notably Iran. The thought did occur to me at the time that the balance in innovation would pass from the U.S. to other nations and we were on a path to being a nation of bean counters and service industry. It would be interesting to find out just where all those physicists and engineers now designing the Iranian nuclear program got their education. Did we give them the tools to cause us so much grief?...

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gimpy117
04-10-12, 12:17 AM
I know. I'm phoning Moscow as we speak.

Osmium Steele
04-10-12, 07:32 AM
No mention of the Clinton administration eliminating the Noforn classification specifically so chinese scientists could access restricted aerospace tech at american facilites?

No mention of the Clinton administration lifting the ban on selling aerospace guidance tech to the chinese?

No, it had to be spies in our universities that enabled the chinese to successfully launch multiple stage rockets for obital insertion. :damn:

I guess we all tend to re-write history from our own perspective.

Jimbuna
04-10-12, 08:32 AM
Had them over here in the UK for decades...most of them are British :doh:

Rockstar
04-10-12, 08:32 AM
So this what Vendor has been up too, posing as a student at some university.

Ducimus
04-10-12, 11:25 AM
Stanford does not, nor will it, restrict participation of students on the basis of citizenship,” President John Hennessy testified at a January 2010, congressional hearing in Palo Alto, California. More than half of Stanford’s doctoral candidates in the physical sciences and engineering come from outside the U.S., he said.

of course not. That would be cutting into their income. Higher education is a big business unto itself.

CptSimFreak
04-10-12, 11:49 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, but what secret information they are getting at schools? Is DoD releasing secret "NOFORN" information in library or something?

Osmium Steele
04-10-12, 01:29 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but what secret information they are getting at schools? Is DoD releasing secret "NOFORN" information in library or something?

No. Chinese operatives, sorry "scientists" were given free access to formerly restricted aerospace tech at US government facilities and contractors.

My point being, chinese operatives getting information at our universities is a relatively minor nuisance and a natural result of our open society.

The greatest harm done in the vein of US/Sino aerospace tech transfer was perpetrated during/by the Clinton administration.

nikimcbee
04-10-12, 01:46 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but what secret information they are getting at schools? Is DoD releasing secret "NOFORN" information in library or something?

Plus there's corperate espionage. See semiconductor industry.

STEED
04-10-12, 02:32 PM
Had them over here in the UK for decades...most of them are British :doh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6kYe-DUTo

Jimbuna
04-10-12, 03:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NmN2g91i6c&feature=fvst

the_tyrant
04-10-12, 06:43 PM
There is nothing to be surprised about
After all, isn't this the whole point of school?
A student comes, and learns knowledge. It isn't spying or anything, just learning.

Herr-Berbunch
04-10-12, 06:59 PM
But look at them! Obviously spies. What we want is more Anna Chapmans. :yeah:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01675/anna_chapman_1675308a.jpg

STEED
04-11-12, 09:42 AM
But look at them! Obviously spies. What we want is more Anna Chapmans sexy boobs. :yeah:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01675/anna_chapman_1675308a.jpg

There you go. :03:

Herr-Berbunch
04-11-12, 10:02 AM
And pretty face, nice body, and eyes that just say Herr-B! Wake up, I want to do it again...! Then I'll get you a pint and a bacon sandwich.

:yeah: I'LL TELL ALL :yeah:

geetrue
04-11-12, 10:13 AM
The real question is how many want to go back to their countries after living a life of freedom in America that is not even closely available in the countries they come from.

A freedom that lets you speak and say what you think from your soul and from your heart is what I am talking about.

even smart people like to drink coffee and talk about what they think in coffee shops ... fear keeps them in line over where they come from. :yep: