Steam install location and edit cfg files?

[RootBeer]

Does anyone know where Steam installs SH3? I want to edit some cfg files, but I can't find the directory with SH3 in it. I can edit the career cfg that's stored in My Documents, but I want to edit the other cfg files as well.

Also, does anyone know where I can find the stuff I can edit to make zooming with ctrl possible? And where I can find info on how to edit how much renown my career starts with or makes during missions? I remember I found it on here a few years ago, but I bought a new computer yesterday and installed SH3 on it, but wasn't able to copy over my old cfg files, and I don't remember where to go to edit them. Any help would be appreciated.

[Raptor]

To edit renown at career start, edit /SilentHunterIII/data/Cfg/Basic.cfg


[RENOWN]
RenownReachGridObjCompleted=0 <= change as desired
RenownPatrolGridObjCompleted=0 <= change as desired
CompletedPatrol=0
NEUTRAL=-1 <= if you want to sink neutrals without penalty, remove the minus sign; make it "1"
ALLIED=1
AXIS=-10
WrongShipSunk=-5000
FirstRankRenown=1000
SecondRankRenown=3500
EndCampaign=-5000

[bigboywooly]

Somewhere like this

c/programs(*86)/steam/steamApps/common/Silent Hunter

May vary but a good place to start

[RootBeer]

Thank you, that's exactly where it was. Now I can edit the cfg files.

What about ammo for my deck gun and flak cannons?

[bigboywooly]

Thank you, that's exactly where it was. Now I can edit the cfg files.

What about ammo for my deck gun and flak cannons?


What are you running ?
Stock/GWX etc

[RootBeer]

Stock right now. I'm trying to remember all the mods I had installed on my other computer, but I can't figure it out. I'm currently downloading GWX though.

I did figure out the ammo one, but the renown I'm still only starting at 500. I was hoping to start with more.

[bigboywooly]

Stock right now. I'm trying to remember all the mods I had installed on my other computer, but I can't figure it out. I'm currently downloading GWX though.

I did figure out the ammo one, but the renown I'm still only starting at 500. I was hoping to start with more.

For start renown you want the flotilla cfg

PlayerStartRenown

[=UBF=Nickwkr]

C:\Documents and Settings\nickwkr\My Documents\SH3\data\cfg\Careers\

[INIT]
Patrols=1
Size=75

[PATROL 000]
PatrolNumber=0
StartYear=1943
StartMonth=1
StartDay=1
StartHour=3
StartMin=5
EndYear=0
EndMonth=0
EndDay=0
EndHour=0
EndMin=0
RealYear=2012
RealMonth=3
RealDay=29
RealHour=18
RealMin=35
StartLocation=753
EndLocation=753
SubType=2
SubVersion=1
SubName=U-519
PatrolArea=AM29
TonnageSunk=0.000000
MerchantTonnageSunk=0.000000
WarshipTonnageSunk=0.000000
ShipsSunkNb=0
WarShipsSunkNb=0
PatrolCraftSunkNb=0
CorvetteSunkNb=0
FrigateSunkNb=0
DestroyerEscortSunkNb=0
DestroyerSunkNb=0
MineSweeperSunkNb=0
LightCruiserSunkNb=0
HeavyCruiserSunkNb=0
EscortCarrierSunkNb=0
AircraftCarrierSunkNb=0
BattleCruiserSunkNb=0
BattleShipSunkNb=0
MineLayingShipSunkNb=0
AuxiliaryCruiserSunkNb=0
MerchantShipsSunkNb=0
SupplyShipNb=0
FuelTankerNb=0
CargoShipNb=0
TroopTransportNb=0
PlanesDownNb=0
FighterAircraftNb=0
BomberAircraftNb=0
DiveBomberAircraftNb=0
TorpedoBomberAircraftNb=0
ScoutAircraftNb=0
HelicopterNb=0
AirENVIRONMENTALNb=0
CompletedPatrol=No
PatrolGridObjCompleted=No
ReachGridObjCompleted=No
OffDead=0
PODead=0
SeamenDead=0
OffWounded=0
POWounded=0
SeamenWounded=0
NbMedalsWounded=0
NbMedalsUboat=0
NbMedalsFront=0
NbMedalsKnights=0
NbMedalsGerman=0
NbMedals1stCross=0
NbMedals2ndCross=0
PromotionsNb=0
AssignQual=No
Flotilla=905
NbDaysInBase=28
HullIntegrity=100.000000
DeltaRenown=99999999999999999999999999999999999999 9.000000
NbSaves=0
ChangedRank=No

[PATROL 001]
PatrolNumber=0
StartYear=1943
StartMonth=1
StartDay=1
StartHour=3
StartMin=5
EndYear=0
EndMonth=0
EndDay=0
EndHour=0
EndMin=0
RealYear=2012
RealMonth=3
RealDay=30
RealHour=21
RealMin=42
StartLocation=753
EndLocation=753
SubType=2
SubVersion=1
SubName=U-519
PatrolArea=BF24
TonnageSunk=0.000000
MerchantTonnageSunk=0.000000
WarshipTonnageSunk=0.000000
ShipsSunkNb=0
WarShipsSunkNb=0
PatrolCraftSunkNb=0
CorvetteSunkNb=0
FrigateSunkNb=0
DestroyerEscortSunkNb=0
DestroyerSunkNb=0
MineSweeperSunkNb=0
LightCruiserSunkNb=0
HeavyCruiserSunkNb=0
EscortCarrierSunkNb=0
AircraftCarrierSunkNb=0
BattleCruiserSunkNb=0
BattleShipSunkNb=0
MineLayingShipSunkNb=0
AuxiliaryCruiserSunkNb=0
MerchantShipsSunkNb=0
SupplyShipNb=0
FuelTankerNb=0
CargoShipNb=0
TroopTransportNb=0
PlanesDownNb=0
FighterAircraftNb=0
BomberAircraftNb=0
DiveBomberAircraftNb=0
TorpedoBomberAircraftNb=0
ScoutAircraftNb=0
HelicopterNb=0
AirENVIRONMENTALNb=0
CompletedPatrol=No
PatrolGridObjCompleted=No
ReachGridObjCompleted=No
OffDead=0
PODead=0
SeamenDead=0
OffWounded=0
POWounded=0
SeamenWounded=0
NbMedalsWounded=0
NbMedalsUboat=0
NbMedalsFront=0
NbMedalsKnights=0
NbMedalsGerman=0
NbMedals1stCross=0
NbMedals2ndCross=0
PromotionsNb=0
AssignQual=Yes
Flotilla=905
NbDaysInBase=28
HullIntegrity=100.000000
DeltaRenown=99999999999999999.0
NbSaves=0
ChangedRank=No

[RootBeer]

Now one last question. I was able to edit a cfg file so I could press ctrl+mouse wheel to zoom in from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 and so on. Any idea how to do that?

[RootBeer]

For start renown you want the flotilla cfg

PlayerStartRenown

I don't know how many times I've edited the flotilla cfg file but it still only starts with 500, and when I exit the game to check the cfg file it's been reverted back to 500, as opposed to what I changed it to.

And does anyone know what cfg file to edit so I can zoom with ctrl+mouse wheel and change the maximum zoom?

[bigboywooly]

I don't know how many times I've edited the flotilla cfg file but it still only starts with 500, and when I exit the game to check the cfg file it's been reverted back to 500, as opposed to what I changed it to.

And does anyone know what cfg file to edit so I can zoom with ctrl+mouse wheel and change the maximum zoom?

Ah yes that renown change only works at start of new career
Use the one Nickwkr posted above to change on career files

As for the scroll

Well the file you want is

C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunter 3\data\Cfg\Commands_en.cfg

Section

;-------------------

[Cmd70]
Name=Cam_zoom_in
Ctxt=1

[Cmd71]
Name=Cam_zoom_out
Ctxt=1

[Cmd72]
Name=Cam_zoom_cycle
Ctxt=1
Key0=0x09,,"Tab"

[Cmd73]
Name=Cam_wheel_zoom
Ctxt=1
Key0=0x05,R,"M.wheel"

Other than that have no idea

[RootBeer]

I can do without the starting renown, but the one that's really starting to piss me off is the ammo. I edit the basic CDC file, start a new career, then it resets itself on exiting the game. I'm using SH3 Commander but I'm not doing the rollback when I exit, so theoretically it should stay the way I edited it, correct? This is really frustrating!

[bigboywooly]

Even using rollback it should stay the same as SH3commander doesnt touch the basic cfg.

Tis the sort of problem you get with vistas UAC if installed in the program files folder.
As yours is outside that folder no idea why is happening unless being reset by Steam

[RootBeer]

I've given up. I uninstalled SH3, going to do a fresh install through steam, and install GWX 3.0. Can you turn crew fatigue off in GWX? And edit the amount of ammo?

[bigboywooly]

I've given up. I uninstalled SH3, going to do a fresh install through steam, and install GWX 3.0. Can you turn crew fatigue off in GWX? And edit the amount of ammo?

You can turn off crew fatigue using SH3 commander
You will need the GWX specific commander cfgs

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20864524/GWX3_SH3Commander_CFGFiles_exe

Or you can edit the files as posted in this forum recently

And yes you can edit the gun ammo but see in your other post you have GWX extra ammo mod so should be sorted

[RootBeer]

You can turn off crew fatigue using SH3 commander
You will need the GWX specific commander cfgs

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20864524/GWX3_SH3Commander_CFGFiles_exe

Or you can edit the files as posted in this forum recently

And yes you can edit the gun ammo but see in your other post you have GWX extra ammo mod so should be sorted

Thank you for all your help. Hopefully GWX doesn't make me hate SH3 with its difficulty.

Edit: I downloaded a .zip file for the CFGFiles, is that the same stuff you get in the .exe file?

[bigboywooly]

Thank you for all your help. Hopefully GWX doesn't make me hate SH3 with its difficulty.

Edit: I downloaded a .zip file for the CFGFiles, is that the same stuff you get in the .exe file?

Should be
The exe was just to foolproof installation

GWX isnt so difficult you will hate the game
Many have been and still are playing it for a few years now
Aircraft and PT boats WILL inflict damage now and wont be so easy to shoot down
Enjoy :yeah:

[RootBeer]

I always dove when aircraft were around anyway. I've never tried engaging them.

What order do I install it in? GWX, SH3 Commander, Commander Cfg files, then extra ammo?

[bigboywooly]

I always dove when aircraft were around anyway. I've never tried engaging them.

What order do I install it in? GWX, SH3 Commander, Commander Cfg files, then extra ammo?

SH3commander is a standalone so you can install that whenever you like then the cfgs

Obv GWX3 then the ammo mod:salute:

[RootBeer]

I figured as much, but I really didn't want to screw it up since I'd have to download SH3 again if I had to uninstall it. Stupid steam.

How much ammo is the extra ammo mod supposed to add? Cuz I just did my first patrol in GWX and it didn't seem like I had much ammo. Maybe it's just because I was used to the amount I had in my other SH3 careers. Is there a max limit on how much ammo I can add to the deck gun? I know you said 260 in the other thread then said something about adding another slot? It seems to take an awful lot of HE to destroy ships in GWX, so I'm hoping I can add more then 260. And does GWX not have AP? I used that all the time below the waterline, but I never noticed it in the deck gun tutorial or my first patrol.

I'm not liking the new binos at all. I really miss the reticule. But I guess I'll get used to it eventually.

[bigboywooly]

There is probably a mod to add the reticules back in - removed in GWX as didnt have in RL - have a look in the DL section of Subsim
Same for the AP rounds - as an AP round is only used against armoured ships no point in uboats carrying as not gonna duke it out with a DD or higher.
Besides ingame there is no difference between the damage done by either shell

You can try upping the DG ammo been so long since looked at any of those parts of the game cant remember much of it

As you can tell already GWX is a lot less arcade than stock

[RootBeer]

I tried adding more ammo but I ended up screwing it up apparently to the point where I had absolutely no ammo for the deck gun. So I'm now downloading and installing SH3 for the 4th time!

I've looked through most of the mods on subsim. I guess it's not too big a deal, I just have to get used to it. And yeah, it's definitely a lot more real then stock sh3, I think I'll definitely like it. Just might take me awhile to figure out how to play it properly.

[RootBeer]

I don't know what the hell happened, but I did another fresh install of SH3, GWX, JSGME, SH3 Commander, Commander Cfg files, Extra Ammo, and Deck guns in any weather, all in that order, and enabled them in JSGME, but now my deck gun has 0 rounds. I haven't edited any files, I've just used the ones included in the mods. I don't really want to have to do another download and fresh install, especially if it's going to happen again. Is there somewhere in the registry or something that I have to go to delete all the SH3 files after I delete and before I do a fresh install? I'm using Windows 7, and I've been away from PC's for quite awhile, so I forgot most of the stuff I used to know about them, such as editing the registry and other important ****.

Any suggestions? Do I have to do another fresh install or is there something else I can do?

[bigboywooly]

I don't know what the hell happened, but I did another fresh install of SH3, GWX, JSGME, SH3 Commander, Commander Cfg files, Extra Ammo, and Deck guns in any weather, all in that order, and enabled them in JSGME, but now my deck gun has 0 rounds. I haven't edited any files, I've just used the ones included in the mods. I don't really want to have to do another download and fresh install, especially if it's going to happen again. Is there somewhere in the registry or something that I have to go to delete all the SH3 files after I delete and before I do a fresh install? I'm using Windows 7, and I've been away from PC's for quite awhile, so I forgot most of the stuff I used to know about them, such as editing the registry and other important ****.

Any suggestions? Do I have to do another fresh install or is there something else I can do?

Try uninstall the other mods and see what game does
You can try turning UAC off - if indeed on

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-disable-and-turn-off-uac-in-windows-7/

As said earlier this usually only applies to programs installed in the Program Files folder - Windows grabs certain files to store then puts them back when program starts - messing up any added mods.

Though as you have 0 shells something deffo odd there

Try just SH3 and GWX without any mods on

[RootBeer]

UAC is off, that's the first thing I do on any PC I touch, even other peoples! God I hate that crap.

If it is Windows changing the files in the Program Files directory, is there any way to force Steam to install in a different directory?

Do you mean try running it with the mods in JSGME disabled, or should I uninstall/delete everything again and just install SH3 and GWX, then try it?

[bigboywooly]

Yeah UAC does suck

Just disable the JSGME mods for now

There are a few others on here playing with Steam that seem to be ok - dont use Steam myself so not 100% sure whats going on there

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1829490&postcount=2

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=193015&highlight=steam

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=193857&highlight=steam

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1825579&postcount=9

Those above may be of some help

[RootBeer]

I tried it by just deactivating the mods through JSGME, but still no joy. So I've uninstalled SH3, and SH3 Commander, downloaded a registry cleaner(hopefully it's a good one), and will install it all again fresh later once I've downloaded it again from steam. Damnit, I wish my disc worked with Windows 7!

For GWX, is there an Uninstall program, or do you just delete it from your SH3 directory?

[bigboywooly]

No there is no uninstall for GWX

Once installed from Steam try relocating the SilentHunterIII folder to somewhere else
C:/Games or something

Before adding GWX

[RootBeer]

Will do.

[bigboywooly]

Makes sure runs as stock ok once moved before you add GWX
Save yourself some grief

[RootBeer]

Yeah definitely, I don't want to download it a 5th time.

[bigboywooly]

Dont have to DL mine but to save constant installs once installed I copy the data folder somewhere
Then if mess up just have to copy it over
Modding generally messes up your installs so have become accustomed to copying the data folder on a regular basis :oops:

Having 3 or 4 installs never helps either :rotfl2:

[RootBeer]

Installed SH3 fresh, works fine, deck ammo where the stock game usually is. Then I installed GWX, started a new career, 0 deck gun ammo. I discovered a folder called SH3\Data\Cfg with the Main.cfg file in it in the main SH3 directory. So it's located in Silent Hunter 3\SH3\Data\Cfg in the vanilla install, is that supposed to be like that? The same main.cfg file is missing from the Silent Hunter 3\Data\Cfg directory, and if I remember correctly that's where it was on my other computer.

This time I was smart and copied the folder onto an external harddrive, so I don't have to install it all again, so that's a plus. I just hope I can figure this out because what little time I had with GWX made me really like it and I don't want to go back to vanilla with a few generic mods.

[bigboywooly]

No its made an extra directory

As you say should be Silent Hunter 3\Data\Cfg

But is in Silent Hunter 3\SH3\Data\Cfg

Not sure how is managing to create itself an extra folder :hmmm:

The installer actually removes things from your stock install as it installs so deffo where you are having a problem
Smart move on the back up copy

[RootBeer]

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Unfortunately though I stupidly uninstalled SH3 again(dumbass, I know), so I have to download it again, because I don't think copying it over to my steam folder will allow steam to recognize it. Oh well, I got other stuff to do while I wait. Hopefully this is the problem because I don't want to give up playing SH3, I love it too much.

Is there not a way to get my disc version of SH3 to run on Windows 7?

[RootBeer]

Well, none of that worked. I did another fresh install of SH3, loaded it up, started a career, and had normal deck gun ammo. Quit the game, installed GWX, moved the data folder back where it was supposed to be, started the game, started a career, checked my deck gun, and again 0 ammo. I started multiple careers in different flotillas, different years, all the same result. I don't know what to do other then to play without GWX, which I guess I could do. There's got to be something I'm doing wrong. Either that or my copy of GWX is f**$@#d.

Do you know if there is anyway I can contact the people who made GWX and see if they know what to do? Or am I SOL?

Edit: This time I also did not install SH3 Commander. The only other thing I did was to use JSGME to enable a few of the GWX mods like the 16km terrain and a few others.

Edit 2: I searched the interweb for "GWX 3.0 no deck gun ammo" and found this http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171809 Apparently I had to man the deck gun and click on the shell to load the first one. Once I did that it showed my ammo. So yippee, I'm on my way to playing SH3 again! Thanks again for all your help bigboy. Now I get to learn how to play SH3 the proper way.

[RootBeer]

What sound mods do you use? I find the GWX sound kinda sucks. Except for the background chatter which is kind of cool.

Edit: Well, I just did my first patrol with GWX and got my ass handed to me. I spent the last hour trying to make it back to base with an Armed Trawler depth charging me until it ran out of charges, then it just followed me for 7 in-game hours. Finally it gave up, but near Dunkirk another ship happened upon me, this time a destroyer. Needless to say it started depth charging me for another 4 in-game hours and finally destroyed my batteries and my electric engines. With only my starboard diesel engine, I surfaced, essentially to just give up. Took about 10 seconds of me being on the surface for him to destroy me. End of that career. GWX is bloody hard. Either that or I really suck at this game.

[RootBeer]

Is it possible to edit the max slots for the deck gun ammo? 250 rounds just isn't enough for GWX. If I edit this section of Basic.cfg will it do anything?

[SUBMARINE_AMMO2]; VIIB
Type=1
Version=0
ForeTubes=4
AftTubes=1
ForeResIntern=4
ForeResExtern=1
ForeResExtra=2
AftResIntern=1
AftResExtern=1
Shellslots=10
NbYears=7
Renown=3
SNK_MASK=NSS_Uboattype7_SNK_mask

So if I changed it to say 15, would I be able to add more ammo?

How come when I edit the basic.cfg file, it reverts back to it's original self when I exit the game? Is it not possible to edit the file with GWX? I've tried editing the renown part where you actually get some for reaching your patrol grid and for completing your patrol, but it always reverts back.

Edit: When I edit the basic.cfg file and add ammo and load the game with just the launch sh3 with gwx shortcut, it keeps the amount of ammo that I changed it to. But when I load it with SH3 commander, it reverts back to the 250. Now I know you'll say just load the game with the GWX shortcut, and that would be fine, but for some reason after every patrol I end up dead. I don't know if that's because I'm continuing a career that I started with SH3 Commander, or if it's some other reason. I would start a new career without SH3 commander, but I like to use the no fatigue option with it. I guess if I knew how to edit the fatigue to zero myself, I would just do it that way. Any suggestions?

[bigboywooly]

Try the auto rollback on SH3commander
Exit the game and let it roll back then make your changes

If you already have auto rollback on then try take it off

If you have SH3 on a disc you could have installed that other than steam version - still NOT in the Program Files directory

As for sounds there are a few about - try the subsim DL section
Not used any others so couldnt say which is best

Not sure on the slots edit - worth a try - last touched those files about 3 years ago so :oops:

GWX isnt arcade stock anymore so get used to having your tail handed back to you.
If you couldnt give an armed trawler the slip for 7 hours obv not using silent running and going deep.
If you cant lose an armed trawler start of war you will have no hope in 42 or later with destroyers or frigates.
Silent running,deep as you can and dont up the TC - plenty of slow turns to try and keep your smallest profile facing him.

And you have been contacting someone from GWX
Me :rotfl2:

Have fun

[RootBeer]

Nice, didn't know you worked on GWX. Good job.

Yeah, I fear the later years in the war, but if I'm patient and take my time I think I'll get the hang of it.

I was able to install SH3 with Windows 7, but it wouldn't run, it kept giving me this error:

This application can be launched with a release version of Miscrosoft Windows 95 OSR2.1/98/ME/NT 4.0/2000/XP/ Server 2003 only.

That's exactly what it said too, with the misspelled Microsoft and everything.

I don't have auto rollback on, and I haven't tried rolling it back. I guess I could roll it back and then edit the file and start a new career. See if that works.

I've reached my download limit with subsim for today :oops: but I was able to download and install the EAX sound mod, which is the one I had on my other laptop. I find it more exciting, though I don't really like the gramophone tracks, I prefer the GWX ones.

Silent Running question, does the gramophone affect the sound signature that other ships pick up, or is it just heard on the sub?

And is NYGM compatible with GWX, or do I have to run them seperately?

[bigboywooly]

No the gramaphone isnt heard outside of the sub so your ok with that
I know there are a lot of gramaphone music mods about
Jimbuna has a load on his gamefront site - link in his sig

Your error message is I believe because of starforce
How old is the SH3 disc ?
Newer versions already patched to 1.4 and are starforce free

There are starforce removal posts around on here which should help as well as links to a no dvd exe

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160118

No GWX and NYGM aren't compatible.
2 separate supermods in their own right.
As are LSH5 and WAC.

I have 4 installs on my comp - GWX,WAC and LSH as well as a back up stock one - always messing files modding so nice to have a spare

All supermods are different in their own ways and worth a play
I generally stick with GWX but if I see something I like in one of the others will have a go at porting it over.
Best of all worlds then.

:yeah:

[RootBeer]

Thanks, I was able to install my disc version of the game, which I'd much rather use then the steam one. Though I still had the problem with dying as soon as I end a patrol. I started a patrol just to see if I had the amount of ammo I wanted, and I did, but I didn't want to play at the time, so I docked at the base and ended up dying. So I'm doing another fresh install from my dvd. Order of install: SH3, 1.4b Patch, GWX, then SH3 commander. Will know in a little bit if I'm still having the dying problem.

[RootBeer]

I finally got it to work the way I wanted it to. I have GWX installed and running, SH3 commander installed and running with the no fatigue model, I'm in the Flotilla I want, I've got the amount of ammo I wanted, and I think I've got the renown set up properly as well. I don't know yet because I haven't finished my first patrol. I also changed the difficulty so I have unlimited batteries now, which is one big reason why I got my ass handed to me. I had to surface to charge my batteries.

Just out of curiosity, how long do each of your patrols last and what difficulty settings do you play it on? Or are you even still playing SH3?

[Sailor Steve]

Quit the game, installed GWX...
I don't know if this will have anything to do with anything, but the GWX installation guide specifically says it must be installed over a CLEAN copy of SH3. There may be a chance that starting a career and then installing GWX is what's screwing everything up.

[RootBeer]

I was doing it over a fresh install. I must've wrote it down in the incorrect order.

[RootBeer]

Is there a way to change the time compression for when a new radio message is received? As it is right now I'm getting a radio message at least once an hour and it drops my TC down to 1. I know you can change the "When receive radio report" in SH3 commander, but it's set at 8 so I don't think that affects it.