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Ewall007
03-28-12, 05:57 PM
Question;
I'm running TMO 2.5 / RSRDC with OTC for both. I noticed on the radio slash shipping route map that it shows mine fields. The mission i'm on has me patroling a shipping lane in the area off Veitnam. My route has taken me into shallow waters any where the depth is from 90 to 180 feet, along the Veitnam coast. Because I know I'm in an area with mines I'm nervious about diving the boat.

Is there a way to detect them on the surface? :06:
Is there a way other than looking outside the boat when underwater to detect mines? :06:
If any of you sub drivers ever hit a mine during a mission I would like to hear from you about what happened. :o
Are the mines in the game underwater or can you see them on the surface during certian condishtions. :06:

:D
Ewall007
"Ranging far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

MarkCt
03-28-12, 10:22 PM
I'm glad you asked about mines because I was wondering the same thing. I'm running the same mods as you and was in the same area but didn't hit, see or detect any mines. Are you looking at the chart on the table in the control room? Are you given any warnings when sent to an area that there might be mines in the area or do you find out when you hit one. :wah:

Ewall007
03-28-12, 11:38 PM
I'm glad you asked about mines because I was wondering the same thing. I'm running the same mods as you and was in the same area but didn't hit, see or detect any mines. Are you looking at the chart on the table in the control room? Are you given any warnings when sent to an area that there might be mines in the area or do you find out when you hit one. :wah:

I've zoomed in on the chart in the control room to see if any would show up but no. If you start the radio a shipping lane chart comes up with the radio, it shows; air cover from 41 to 45, shipping routes 41 to 45, and mines placement from 41 to 45. Thats the only information you have in the game.
When I started playing SH4 v1.5 without any mods I was in the area between Korea and Southern Japan. That area is any where from 150 feet to 250 feet deep before you enter the Sea of Japan I was at 160 feet trying to avoid a patrol, I went to an outside view (underwater) an that's when I saw a mine chained to the bottom! I just was lucky enough to have it miss me by 100ft or so:o!

In the PDF file the designers state that there are even more mines out there in the standard areas found on that map!!! Take a good look at it, you will see simi-circles that are the areas where the mine fields are.

Somebody out there in ths form has to have delt with mines or hit one I would think:hmmm:

Ewall007
"Ranging far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

DrBeast
03-29-12, 12:03 AM
In the PDF file the designers state that there are even more mines out there in the standard areas found on that map!!! Take a good look at it, you will see simi-circles that are the areas where the mine fields are.

Ewall007
"Ranging far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Guess my visit to Hong Kong will have to be exclusively through Kai Tak, then...even though it only seems marginally less dangerous! No wait, that's from another simulator :D

Seriously, though, I haven't encountered any mines yet. Only been playing the newest TMO+RSRDC for about a week now, and never been to areas the map designates as mine-heavy. Add me to the list of people curious to find out!

Ewall007
03-29-12, 10:58 AM
Guess my visit to Hong Kong will have to be exclusively through Kai Tak, then...even though it only seems marginally less dangerous! No wait, that's from another simulator :D

Seriously, though, I haven't encountered any mines yet. Only been playing the newest TMO+RSRDC for about a week now, and never been to areas the map designates as mine-heavy. Add me to the list of people curious to find out!

You have been added to the list (LOL). Yea where I am in the game right now is off the coast of Veitnam doing a shipping lane up and down the coast line in the South China Sea. The historical map shows this huge mine field in that area. So I'm trying to stay in water deeper than 90 feet in that area, but so far I've sank 3 ships haven't seen any mines, but of course I can't see outside my boat like in the stock game either.:ping:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

WernherVonTrapp
03-29-12, 02:44 PM
Armistead is the guy to ask about mines. From what I recall, he's encountered them and even posted SS of them. I would have to surmise that ASW mines are underwater, deep enough to sink subs w/o sinking one's own ships. Also, how do you look outside a submerged boat?:hmmm: I mean, I know you can with the external cam, but real Fleetboats didn't have those, and it kind of defeats the purpose, if you know what I mean.:03:

Ewall007
03-29-12, 04:25 PM
Armistead is the guy to ask about mines. From what I recall, he's encountered them and even posted SS of them. I would have to surmise that ASW mines are underwater, deep enough to sink subs w/o sinking one's own ships. Also, how do you look outside a submerged boat?:hmmm: I mean, I know you can with the external cam, but real Fleetboats didn't have those, and it kind of defeats the purpose, if you know what I mean.:03:

At the time when I could see outside my boat, I had just started playing SH4 v1.5 at a 51% level. I was using the external cam setup because I had only been playing the game for about 1 month:D, and had no clue yet about how real SH4 could be:o. The viewing cam in the game was being used to get screen shots, because I was in awe about how good the graphics were in this game, and to be truthful as time went on and I got my understanding up the only time I would use the view was after sinking a ship (right then an there I knew it was a cheat tool).

I just got back into SH4 after taking about one year off and that's when I found this site an all the wonderful people that play this game like is should be played. Now I upgraded to TMO 2.5 / RSRDC with OTC for both thanks to DrBeast who helped me with certian problems about one week ago!:D

Now, there is no more looking outside for any reason, and I like the feeling of that. Even though I'm still in the automatic targeting club (LOL :har:) I think I'm ready to play like all you pro sub drivers and learn manual targeting:know:.

NO MORE CHEATING!!!...:salute:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

P.S. I have no idea how to incert images into this or I would send the image of the mine incounter...

DrBeast
03-29-12, 04:46 PM
P.S. I have no idea how to incert images into this or I would send the image of the mine incounter...

Take a snapshot in-game by pressing Ctrl+F11. The image will be saved in the game's root folder in bitmap format. Convert it to jpg (Paint can do this just fine) and upload the image to imageshack or photobucket. All you have to do after that is grab the url of the image and insert it here - if you notice, there are several buttons over the field where you type your message. One of them is for inserting images. Click on that and paste your image's link into the box that will pop up. All done!

Oh, I still use free cam (as well as follow next/previous target), so nyah! :haha:

donna52522
03-29-12, 04:53 PM
At the time when I could see outside my boat, I had just started playing SH4 v1.5 at a 51% level. I was using the external cam setup because I had only been playing the game for about 1 month:D, and had no clue yet about how real SH4 could be:o. The viewing cam in the game was being used to get screen shots, because I was in awe about how good the graphics were in this game, and to be truthful as time went on and I got my understanding up the only time I would use the view was after sinking a ship (right then an there I knew it was a cheat tool).

I just got back into SH4 after taking about one year off and that's when I found this site an all the wonderful people that play this game like is should be played. Now I upgraded to TMO 2.5 / RSRDC with OTC for both thanks to DrBeast who helped me with certian problems about one week ago!:D

Now, there is no more looking outside for any reason, and I like the feeling of that. Even though I'm still in the automatic targeting club (LOL :har:) I think I'm ready to play like all you pro sub drivers and learn manual targeting:know:.

NO MORE CHEATING!!!...:salute:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

P.S. I have no idea how to incert images into this or I would send the image of the mine incounter...

Cheating with the free cam all depends on what you use it for...there are many ways in the game that can be considered cheating.... Having Map Contacts, Using the Attack Map, Auto-Targeting.....All of those can be considered cheating. :)

It's only a game, you just play it the way you like it.

WernherVonTrapp
03-29-12, 05:13 PM
At the time when I could see outside my boat, I had just started playing SH4 v1.5 at a 51% level. I was using the external cam setup because I had only been playing the game for about 1 month:D, and had no clue yet about how real SH4 could be:o. The viewing cam in the game was being used to get screen shots, because I was in awe about how good the graphics were in this game, and to be truthful as time went on and I got my understanding up the only time I would use the view was after sinking a ship (right then an there I knew it was a cheat tool).
Sorry Ewall007, you don't have to explain yourself to me, I use the external cam too.:up: I wasn't actually trying to criticise you.:oops: I have a weird sense of humor and was really trying to make a joke about being in a real sub (the lack of windows and all). Oh well, another dumb joke down the tubes.:D

Char
03-29-12, 07:15 PM
Your Subs dont have Windows? Mine Does....

Wait,no...Thats a Hull Breach from a Depth Charge:har:

Ewall007
03-29-12, 07:45 PM
Take a snapshot in-game by pressing Ctrl+F11. The image will be saved in the game's root folder in bitmap format. Convert it to jpg (Paint can do this just fine) and upload the image to imageshack or photobucket. All you have to do after that is grab the url of the image and insert it here - if you notice, there are several buttons over the field where you type your message. One of them is for inserting images. Click on that and paste your image's link into the box that will pop up. All done!

Oh, I still use free cam (as well as follow next/previous target), so nyah! :haha:

I'm uploading the Imageshack program right now!!! :up:

I saw that upload button that was asking for an http address, but I figured I havn't been here that long to earn the right to upload anything.

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Ewall007
03-29-12, 08:04 PM
Cheating with the free cam all depends on what you use it for...there are many ways in the game that can be considered cheating.... Having Map Contacts, Using the Attack Map, Auto-Targeting.....All of those can be considered cheating. :)

It's only a game, you just play it the way you like it.

:D yea I know, he was just joking with me anyway, but for me I'm liking the new feel with the mods I got running. You just don't know what your in for on a mission, no matter if you have a free cam or not.:03:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Ewall007
03-29-12, 08:09 PM
Sorry Ewall007, you don't have to explain yourself to me, I use the external cam too.:up: I wasn't actually trying to criticise you.:oops: I have a weird sense of humor and was really trying to make a joke about being in a real sub (the lack of windows and all). Oh well, another dumb joke down the tubes.:D

Ok don't worry about your sense of hurmor with me. I like jokes I can't figure out right then and there. LOL :D
Sometimes I end up doing the samething cause I have kind of a dark sense of hurmor~:yep:
You set up your game the way you what to play cause your the only one playing it at the moment.:cool:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Ewall007
03-29-12, 11:16 PM
Oh, I still use free cam (as well as follow next/previous target), so nyah! :haha:

Ok I had trouble downloading the program so I will have to try that again later.
Now I've done it...I got a multi-install of SH4

Install #1. SH4 v1.5 TMO / RSRDC OTC 1.5:cool:

Install #2. SH4 v1.5 RFB / RSRDC ( I don't know about OTC for this setup?:06:)

Now everything is up to date :up:
And of course I'm playing with outside views in the RFB version :yep: LOL

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

DrBeast
03-30-12, 01:05 AM
Ok I had trouble downloading the program so I will have to try that again later.
Now I've done it...I got a multi-install of SH4

Install #1. SH4 v1.5 TMO / RSRDC OTC 1.5:cool:

Install #2. SH4 v1.5 RFB / RSRDC ( I don't know about OTC for this setup?:06:)

Now everything is up to date :up:
And of course I'm playing with outside views in the RFB version :yep: LOL

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Ah yes, join the Dark Side of MultiSH4...we have cookies! :rotfl2:

I currently have two installments of SH4, one with TMO/RSRDC/OTC, the other is reserved for my Uboat campaign, whenever I'll get around to starting one (still pretty much in the dark with regards to which mods to use there, though). I've also been thinking of giving RFB a spin - all these years and I haven't even taken a glimpse at it (shame on me, I know! :oops: ), complemented with RSRDC and OTC, of course.

Footnote: What in the Nine Hells am I still doing up at 9am?!?

indy
03-30-12, 01:36 AM
There is a mod that will warn you about mines! I think its from Webster. I would guess that some of you hard core submariners would claim it's cheating, but "what ever" lol. Let me know, if any one wants it. Ill try to dig it up, or you can do a search for it. I never tried it my self, but I do have it, guess I never got around to it. Indy:D

Ewall007
03-30-12, 01:37 AM
Ah yes, join the Dark Side of MultiSH4...we have cookies! :rotfl2:

I currently have two installments of SH4, one with TMO/RSRDC/OTC, the other is reserved for my Uboat campaign, whenever I'll get around to starting one (still pretty much in the dark with regards to which mods to use there, though). I've also been thinking of giving RFB a spin - all these years and I haven't even taken a glimpse at it (shame on me, I know! :oops: ), complemented with RSRDC and OTC, of course.

Footnote: What in the Nine Hells am I still doing up at 9am?!?

LOL :DL The same reason I'm up until 3 a.m. messing with this game!

Yea, I'm on my first mission into the Marshall Is. I had to jump out for a minute because I was getting some weird frame rates. I will reboot and see if that helps.
So far its a little different (without OTC installed) the radar is kind of funky little screen with no tags for bearing or distance and no zoom. I've installed RSRDC after making sure that the RFB mod worked ok first. The controls are all stock keys with a little re-arangement of some of the icons. I added my Cap. Midnight mod and the liferaft mod and that's it either way so far so good.

Will be looking for the OTC to go with RFB right now....

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

P.S. Downloaded the MaxOpitcs IV for RFB 2.0 couldn't find any OTC fro RFB 2.0:hmmm:

I'm goin' down
03-30-12, 01:43 AM
Years ago, my boat was somewhere near japan when it suddenly sunk. Someone responded to my post that inquired what had happened. Their post said a mine was the likely cause.

My boat has been trapped in sub nets, so mines must be out there.

0rpheus
03-30-12, 09:06 AM
I've always wondered this, interested to find out!

Dogsbd
03-30-12, 11:36 AM
Came across a Japanese sub in Makassar Pass on my way from Surabaya to Manila Bay to insert an agent. Sank the enemy sub and while checking out my handiwork I noticed a mine. I think the sub was actually laying mines when I came across her. Or is that not possible?

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h48/dogsbd/mine.jpg

Ewall007
03-31-12, 02:34 AM
This image was from the stock version SH4 v1.5. If I remember this was at the Southern end of the Sea of Japan at 200 feet I think the bottom was 260 feet here...:cool:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6528/silenthunter444.jpg

I'm goin' down
03-31-12, 02:42 AM
nice pics. They answer the issue re the existance of mines.

Armistead
03-31-12, 11:58 AM
The map showing mines hardly reflects the minefields of RSRD, not sure about stock. When you build a minefield you set the min and max height of mines so they can be at different depths, most in RSRD are 50-150ft of depth, I know of no fields where mines are on the surface because they might interfere with japanese merchants. The other setting is density, now many mines per group. If you look in the ME under Jap Minefields you can see all the fields, open up the folder in RSRD if you're using that.
You would wonder how you don't run into them, but even with all the fields, it's a rare thing, the most dangerous areas are straits into Sea of Japan and Formosa.

Some have made mods that detect mines, but they don't work right and place a load on your PC because it reads each one as a contact and you may get 100 or more mine contacts all at once.

Ewall007
03-31-12, 02:10 PM
The map showing mines hardly reflects the minefields of RSRD, not sure about stock. When you build a minefield you set the min and max height of mines so they can be at different depths, most in RSRD are 50-150ft of depth, I know of no fields where mines are on the surface because they might interfere with japanese merchants. The other setting is density, now many mines per group. If you look in the ME under Jap Minefields you can see all the fields, open up the folder in RSRD if you're using that.
You would wonder how you don't run into them, but even with all the fields, it's a rare thing, the most dangerous areas are straits into Sea of Japan and Formosa.

Some have made mods that detect mines, but they don't work right and place a load on your PC because it reads each one as a contact and you may get 100 or more mine contacts all at once.

I was wondering about those minefield mods. I was thinking naa I rather run into a mine before I add something like that.
Bottom line is that the mine fields keep you sharp when in areas that are shallow hunting down surface ships.:D

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

I'm goin' down
03-31-12, 04:45 PM
I was wondering about those minefield mods. I was thinking naa I rather run into a mine before I add something like that.
Bottom line is that the mine fields keep you sharp when in areas that are shallow hunting down surface ships.:D

How do minefields keep you sharp? If you deactivate the external camera, please explain how you can see a mine, or know that are in a mine field unless you hit one, it is marked on a map, or you were in the minefield previously before, and hit one? Maybe the existance of mines in the game will make a captain wary or cautious. But sharp? I think not. Also, I assume the letters "naa" and should be replaced by the word, "that."

Now, I let my imagaination run wild.

[I was tracking a huge TF off southern Japan in late '43. I positioned ahead of it in my swift, brand spanking new Balao. Here it comes, the crew chanted. I armed the torpedoes, set up using the OTC mod, and just then... ships in the TF started exploding---lots and lots of explosions. I saw CV, BB's and dds caught up in massive orange balls of fire. Booms and mushroom shaped clouds continued for twenty minutes. When the smoke cleared, where was the TF? It disappeared. WTF? The Jap TF sailed into one its own minefields??? I sent a message to base. "TF sighted. TF destroyed." I was awarded the Silver Star when I returned Midway.]

IGD, wake up, wake up! you have been dreaming. What is this about mine fields? How about some breakfast? You are expected on the bridge in 15 minutes.

Ewall007
03-31-12, 09:37 PM
How do minefields keep you sharp? If you deactivate the external camera, please explain how you can see a mine, or know that are in a mine field unless you hit one, it is marked on a map, or you were in the minefield previously before, and hit one? Maybe the existance of mines in the game will make a captain wary or cautious. But sharp? I think not. Also, I assume the letters "naa" and should be replaced by the word, "that."


LOL really, really; I guess this is a little over your head...humm:cool:
In my book, SHARP and CAUTIOUS are one in the same:cool:; if you bother to think about it. Also the historical map that came with SH4 v1.5 (un-moded) shows were and the dates of, all the Jap minefields from 41 to 45.
External camera, well I have one version of SH4 v1.5 TMO v2.5 /RSRDC and use no external camera....and I have another SH4 v1.5 RFB v2.0 MaxOptics IV that I do use the external camera,!:up: I like the graphics in SH4 sorry...:cool:

Of course a hard core sub driver like you self uses no external camera (right?) If I have to sit here an explain to you how you can see a mine with no external camera then there is something wrong your computer; the one on your desktop and the one in your head.:cool:

Again you assume wrong..."NAA" is just "NAA"...and that is That...LOL. Maybe instead of assuming everything, you should learn how to read between the lines. Or is that asking to much from you?:cool:

Armistead
04-01-12, 06:55 AM
I was wondering about those minefield mods. I was thinking naa I rather run into a mine before I add something like that.
Bottom line is that the mine fields keep you sharp when in areas that are shallow hunting down surface ships.:D

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955


When I say build a minefield, just the tools in the ME that do it, doesn't matter if stock or mod. If you use RSRD he added different minefields than stock and don't start believing you're safe in shallow water, you'll find plenty mines in 3-500 ft deep of water..

WernherVonTrapp
04-01-12, 10:05 AM
Now, I let my imagaination run wild.

[I was tracking a huge TF off southern Japan in late '43. I positioned ahead of it in my swift, brand spanking new Balao. Here it comes, the crew chanted. I armed the torpedoes, set up using the OTC mod, and just then... ships in the TF started exploding---lots and lots of explosions. I saw CV, BB's and dds caught up in massive orange balls of fire. Booms and mushroom shaped clouds continued for twenty minutes. When the smoke cleared, where was the TF? It disappeared. WTF? The Jap TF sailed into one its own minefields??? I sent a message to base. "TF sighted. TF destroyed." I was awarded the Silver Star when I returned Midway.]

IGD, wake up, wake up! you have been dreaming. What is this about mine fields? How about some breakfast? You are expected on the bridge in 15 minutes.I was about to ask you where that was, so that I could go to that location too. Then, I read the punchline.:har:

Ewall007
04-01-12, 11:23 AM
When I say build a minefield, just the tools in the ME that do it, doesn't matter if stock or mod. If you use RSRD he added different minefields than stock and don't start believing you're safe in shallow water, you'll find plenty mines in 3-500 ft deep of water..

I've been using MultiSH4 so I'm running two different mega mods here. This is very interesting information :D. The TMO / RSRDC SH4 I'm running is without a "free cam" I like the effect of not seeing outside my boat, however I was a bit nervious off the coast of Veitnam in the last mission because the information I saw on the radio / map that comes with the mod.
The other mega-mod is RFB / RSRDC MaxOptics IV in that mod I am using a free cam (so I can grab screen shots of the game) one thing I miss in TMO.
You with all your experence have answered my question and I thank you. Like everything else in SH4 the mines are random too. You just have to watch you butt in shallow water and when passing through certian straits in the game.
Another thought was when entering an are to drop of an agent or a recon group most of the time when I had to do that, I ended up running at least 5 miles through 47 to 51 foot deep water to the drop off point. The funny thing in that was I never gave mines a second thought:o.

Thanks for all your information:Dits been a big help :salute:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Peter Cremer
04-02-12, 04:37 PM
Take a snapshot in-game by pressing Ctrl+F11. The image will be saved in the game's root folder in bitmap format. Convert it to jpg (Paint can do this just fine) and upload the image to imageshack or photobucket. All you have to do after that is grab the url of the image and insert it here - if you notice, there are several buttons over the field where you type your message. One of them is for inserting images. Click on that and paste your image's link into the box that will pop up. All done!

Oh, I still use free cam (as well as follow next/previous target), so nyah! :haha:

:hmmm: Okay, so I'm as dense as a lead brick. I've never posted a picture here (or anywhere else) but i've done all of the above (including registering with Imageshack and uploading two pictures there) and all I see in the message box is my short description of the picture and a little box with a red "X" in it. Should I see the picture with the message before I post it or does it show up in the post after I submit it? I don't want to post a bunch of junk and use the forum as a test area. I need to be led around like a dog on a leash I think!!

Bueller? Bueller? Anybody?

Never mind...........I think I got it...........See screenshot thread. Sorry to bother you DrBeast.

Ewall007
04-02-12, 07:20 PM
:hmmm: Okay, so I'm as dense as a lead brick. I've never posted a picture here (or anywhere else) but i've done all of the above (including registering with Imageshack and uploading two pictures there) and all I see in the message box is my short description of the picture and a little box with a red "X" in it. Should I see the picture with the message before I post it or does it show up in the post after I submit it? I don't want to post a bunch of junk and use the forum as a test area. I need to be led around like a dog on a leash I think!!

Bueller? Bueller? Anybody?

Never mind...........I think I got it...........See screenshot thread. Sorry to bother you DrBeast.

I'm the one Dr.Beast was helping; when you upload the image to imageshak a box with come up with a lot of URL address to that image that you just uploaded. Select the right one (there labled) and when you hit insert image button on your post...copy / past the URL address in the the box that comes up...click OK and you should see the image in the post before you submit it.

:D
Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Peter Cremer
04-02-12, 07:35 PM
I'm the one Dr.Beast was helping; when you upload the image to imageshak a box with come up with a lot of URL address to that image that you just uploaded. Select the right one (there labled) and when you hit insert image button on your post...copy / past the URL address in the the box that comes up...click OK and you should see the image in the post before you submit it.

:D
Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

Yep, I got it. I was pasting the "link" url but when I pasted the "direct link" url the picture appeared. Thanx for answering.:up:

DrBeast
04-02-12, 11:12 PM
Sorry to bother you DrBeast.

It's never a bother helping people out. When I first joined this place, I was amazed by the hospitality and willingness of its members to help, much unlike most game-related fora out there. True camaraderie, indeed :up:

Now, if only this forum would stop reminding me of my age..."Old Man" my foot! :rotfl2:

Ewall007
04-03-12, 12:03 AM
It's never a bother helping people out. When I first joined this place, I was amazed by the hospitality and willingness of its members to help, much unlike most game-related fora out there. True camaraderie, indeed :up:

Now, if only this forum would stop reminding me of my age..."Old Man" my foot! :rotfl2:

:har: LOL Dr. Beast...You have to take the bad with the good here! :D Of course I'm thinking we are rowing the same age boat if you know what I mean...:salute:

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

SuperEtendard
04-06-12, 07:26 PM
Hi everyone, something really strange just happened to me today..

I was patrolling the entrance to the strait between Shikoku and Honshu, and then suddenly, in the middle of the night, i heard and explosion, the sub shaked, (Just like in SH 5 trailer haha).

Both periscopes destroyed...

Radio destroyed...

Lots of other things damaged (middle red bar)

in less than 30 sec, control room, stern torpedo and cunnign tower half flooded.

Hull damage 23 %.

I didnt do anything, i just stayed there, at all stop, because NOTHING/NOBODY had attacked me.

--it wasnt an airplane (it was midnight and he would be there in that moment)

-- no ships near

-- no ground defense guns ( i was just too far away from coast and they dont shoot just one time)

-- MINE??? ( i have no idea, i know i was "in the eye of the tornado", but it was tooooo deep for mines i think, my sonar said the depth under kell was 240 mts, those are 800 feet aprox.. can that be possible??)

Thank god i was surfaced, at the next day my team repaired everything, except periscopes and radio :cry:.

i show you some pics

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=b3528d35f9&view=att&th=13689decc6c855fc&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_h0pkiwer0&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P8Je68HD9QrQCnVG89gU_NF&sadet=1333757751035&sads=d8HBnxgeWrDZYI2NQ6Dt9NY_Dh8

Radio and persicope destroyed, hull damage 23%

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=b3528d35f9&view=att&th=13689decc6c855fc&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=f_h0pkj7bv1&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P8Je68HD9QrQCnVG89gU_NF&sadet=1333757855799&sads=nneu61IHaiZCwW1kxqwafdJ2Nmc



Shokaku Honshu strait, look im in the "dark blue zone", this was the next day.

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=b3528d35f9&view=att&th=13689decc6c855fc&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=f_h0pkjdvr2&safe=1&zw

depth under keel, 240 mts.

PD: im using 1.4 vanilla

I uploaded this images with gmail, just attach the images to a mail, then click on view and copy the url :DL.

Ewall007
04-06-12, 07:52 PM
Hi everyone, something really strange just happened to me today..

I was patrolling the entrance to the strait between Shikoku and Honshu, and then suddenly, in the middle of the night, i heard and explosion, the sub shaked, (Just like in SH 5 trailer haha).

Both periscopes destroyed...

Radio destroyed...

Lots of other things damaged (middle red bar)

in less than 30 sec, control room, stern torpedo and cunnign tower half flooded.

Hull damage 23 %.

I didnt do anything, i just stayed there, at all stop, because NOTHING/NOBODY had attacked me.

--it wasnt an airplane (it was midnight and he would be there in that moment)

-- no ships near

-- no ground defense guns ( i was just too far away from coast and they dont shoot just one time)

-- MINE??? ( i have no idea, i know i was "in the eye of the tornado", but it was tooooo deep for mines i think, my sonar said the depth under kell was 240 mts, those are 800 feet aprox.. can that be possible??)

Thank god i was surfaced, at the next day my team repaired everything, except periscopes and radio :cry:.

i show you some pics

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=b3528d35f9&view=att&th=13689decc6c855fc&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_h0pkiwer0&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P8Je68HD9QrQCnVG89gU_NF&sadet=1333757751035&sads=d8HBnxgeWrDZYI2NQ6Dt9NY_Dh8

Radio and persicope destroyed, hull damage 23%

https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/?ui=2&ik=b3528d35f9&view=att&th=13689decc6c855fc&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=f_h0pkj7bv1&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P8Je68HD9QrQCnVG89gU_NF&sadet=1333757855799&sads=nneu61IHaiZCwW1kxqwafdJ2Nmc



Shokaku Honshu strait, look im in the "dark blue zone", this was the next day.

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=b3528d35f9&view=att&th=13689decc6c855fc&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=f_h0pkjdvr2&safe=1&zw

depth under keel, 240 mts.

PD: im using 1.4 vanilla

I uploaded this images with gmail, just attach the images to a mail, then click on view and copy the url :DL.

Again I'm thinking it was a mine.
240 meters is 787.3 feet (LOL) I would agree, that's a little deep for mines but you never know in this game. I'm running TMO / RSRDC SH4 v1.5 and there are suppose to be even more mines than in the stock versions.

Sorry to say that your screen shots didn't show up so I can't really see where you are...:cry:

Hope none of your crew were killed in this....

Ewall007
"Ranging Far, Sweeping Wide"
Quote from Victory at Sea 1955

merc4ulfate
04-07-12, 07:46 PM
I have never seen mines but I did see a net once. Very shallow coming into a lagoon. The only way around the net was a small opening on its north side but you had to be surfaced going slow as to avoid hitting the beach. I was fortunate it was dark and the harbor patrols did not see me enter.

As far as seeing mines underwater and looking outside. Submerge just deeper than periscope depth. Raise the periscope and have a look around. If the mines are near you they will be visible if there is enough daylight. If your to close go all back emergency turning your rudder opposite the area to avoid. Go back in slow avoiding the mine.

:ping: