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BossMark
03-17-12, 01:43 PM
How can this be fair someone who does the same job earn more than someone living up north.:nope:
Looks like the Tories are looking after the places where they get the most votes down bloody south.
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16190693

Jimbuna
03-17-12, 02:38 PM
These comments just about sum it up for me :nope:


General Secretary Brendan Barber said: "Moving to regional pay will not just reduce the pay of millions of public servants, but hit regional economies outside London and the South East as people have less to spend."
He added: "This budget is shaping up to be a giveaway for the super-rich and a takeaway from Britain's hardest-hit regions."

Public and Commercial Services union general secretary Mark Serwotka said: "Local economies - already suffering from Tory-led, politically motivated butchery - are crying out for investment, not more cuts.
"It appears that next week's budget is shaping up to include the exact opposite of what our communities need to help them get back on their feet."

Mr McCluskey added: "George Osborne's Budget will reveal him as a grotesque reversal of Robin Hood, rewarding the super-wealthy by allowing them to skip over their tax responsibilities while mugging the low waged."

jumpy
03-17-12, 04:47 PM
Yes, I heard about this earlier today.
Honestly, you'd have thought these ******* politicians read their policies in the bloody faecal entrails of goats.

Tribesman
03-17-12, 06:05 PM
So how does this work?
A bloke in Huddersfield currently gets the same hourly rate as a bloke in Richmond.
Richmond is more expensive to live in which is reflected in the actual wages
Under the new rules a bloke in Huddersfield will get less as an hourly rate than the bloke in Richmond as Huddersfield is cheaper to live in.
Does the bloke in Richmond lose the London weighing which is paid in addition to his hourly rate due to Richmond being more expensive to live in than Huddersfield?

Is it a case of a false measure being used to give a false representation of addresing an issue that is already dealt with

BossMark
03-18-12, 02:37 AM
And as to what the Tories and their lapdogs the Libdems want to do to our NHS is down right disgrace
A group of doctors are to challenge coalition MPs at the next general election

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17419609

STEED
03-18-12, 07:42 AM
It dose not matter who is in charge there all a load of horse dung. If people are thick enough to vote Conservative, Labour and Liberal you get what you deserve. Stop voting for these three party's they are dinosaurs, its time for them to roll over and die.

Labour is not the friend of the N.H.S as there last government privatised sections of it. Conservatives will always bow to the rich, as for the Liberals they have shown they will sleep with the enemy.

Read my sig, all three have failed, stop voting for them.

If your ballot paper only has these three dirt bag party's on it then write on it...NONE OF THE ABOVE.

The three main party's no longer work for us and why? Because the voter has forgotten that fact. Apart from me and the rest who know that fact.

Platapus
03-18-12, 08:12 AM
I am not understanding the problem here.

Perhaps I did not understand the article, which I though was awkwardly written.
If I understand the article, the move is to go away from a set national wage scale to one that incorporates different costs of living. Is that right?

That's the way we do things here in the US with our Federal Employees.

In the US, our federal employees are, with few exceptions, eligible for regional pay. In the US there are significant changes in the cost of living depending on where you live. It simply costs a lot more to live in Washington DC than it does to live in Ponca City, OK.

If we were to pay our federal workers the same amount, at which level would we pick?

If we paid everyone at the Ponca City level, the federal employees in DC would be on food stamps. Resulting in no one applying for the DC jobs.

If we paid everyone at the DC level, federal employees in Ponca City would be living like Dukes and that would, rightfully, piss off the tax payers.

The way Federal jobs are handled in the US is that everyone gets a base pay for that type of job. All GS 10 Step 1 employees earn the exact same base salary (it is more complicated these days with new "band" system, but that's for another rant)

If, as a GS10S1, you are assigned to Washington DC, you would be given a higher adjustment based on the cost of living. There are charts giving the regional adjustments and if you are considering a federal job it is most important to know what region you will be working in.

In no case is anyone's pay reduced. The government sets the base level low enough to prevent that.

The intent is for the Ponca City GS10S1 and the DC GS10S1 to have the same standard of living. Not too high, not too low.

Yes, the Ponca City employees may feel they are being "penalized", but they are not. Due to errors in how regional rates are computed, I think it is more advantageous to work in a region with a low or no regional adjustment. I think your money will go further.

Tribesman
03-18-12, 11:04 AM
If I understand the article, the move is to go away from a set national wage scale to one that incorporates different costs of living. Is that right?

No.
How you describe as your federal pay system is pretty much what they currently have. Nationally set base pay with some extras for some locations.

And as to what the Tories and their lapdogs the Libdems want to do to our NHS is down right disgrace
A plan that is so flawed the government is again fighting the courts so they can keep the governments own impact reports on it from being read.