Move external spare torps aft to bow or vv?

[zygoma]

I'm sure it's happened to all the other noob (c'mon, everyone started out new here once, right?) where all the bow fish, including external spares, have been fired, or at least loaded into one or two bow tubes.
Meanwhile, there are those coupl'a aft externals just sitting there (as well as the internal spares, if we had either a crane of infinite rope to use with blocks-and-tackle to drag their asses back up on deck.
So.....are bow torpedoes forever destined to be shot only from bow tubes, and aft fish from aft tubes? While I *can* usually set up for a decent aft shot after an acute-angle approach at an oncoming merchant target, it's really slow to go for a follow-up shot with a Type VII boat.
So, any (printable) ideas for the World's Oldest Noob (60 in a couple of days)?
Tnx,73 and so mote it be,
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[Alpha Von Burg]

I had the same question once. Why can't I just load the aft external reserves to the internal bow reserves?

As it turns out, the external reserves are places in a way so that they can quickly be placed into the U-Boat directly.

http://www.bobeshobbyhouse.com/artwork/PMFS09/PMFS09049.jpg
Im sure I can get a better picture.:D


Now imagine taking out aft or bow reserves and taking them to thier opposite internals, in port this is no problem with cranes and stuff, but out at sea, your crew better becareful not to drop it into the water.

I hope that was the answer you were expecting.

Oh and hello, hiram and welcome aboard Herr Kaleun :salute: ( it's always polite to welcome new comers)

[Kapt Z]

Can you move the aft external(s) to the forward torpedo room in the game?

No.

Did they during the real war? Yes. As I remember from one of my u-boat books, I think about Teddy Suhren, that it was quite a crazy feat.

The worked the torpedo into a cradle on deck. Wrapped it in a bunch of life preservers, flooded the boat down to decks awash. Some of the crew in boats and others swimming actually towed the beast in the water to the other end of the boat. They then flooded down that end and worked the fish into the cradle and blew ballast to bring everything out of the water. Then they winched it up and lowered it into other torpedo room.

Needless to say this kind of operation must have taken a LONG time and would only have been possible in some truly remote location.

I have no idea how many boats even used their external torpedoes in the war. Took too much time and prevented diving if sighted. I think there were also concerns about the fish being reliable after long stowage in the external tubes.

[Kafka BC]

... I think there were also concerns about the fish being reliable after long stowage in the external tubes.

I recall reading that each internally stored torpedo was usually stripped down, cleaned, and checked for corrosion and leaks about once every five days. This certainly wouldn't be possible with externally stored torpedoes.

[krashkart]

I recall reading that each internally stored torpedo was usually stripped down, cleaned, and checked for corrosion and leaks about once every five days. This certainly wouldn't be possible with externally stored torpedoes.

Imagine if they had been able to model this in the game, and you happen to run into a juicy convoy right in the middle of a maintenance cycle. :damn:

[Kafka BC]

Imagine if they had been able to model this in the game, and you happen to run into a juicy convoy right in the middle of a maintenance cycle. :damn:

I think their maintenance was going on all the time. They probably did maybe three torpedoes a day, one per each eight hour watch in the torpedo room.

[krashkart]

I think their maintenance was going on all the time. They probably did maybe three torpedoes a day, one per each eight hour watch in the torpedo room.

Makes sense. I'd rather it be done all at once at the last minute, much like paying bills. :DL


Grats on your new avatar, BTW. I'd go easy on the mascara next time... ;):D

Submitted as evidence
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=614&pictureid=5417

[Kafka BC]

Grats on your new avatar, BTW. I'd go easy on the mascara next time... ;):D

!!!??? :o What the Hey? It changed? I liked the Navy Dude, I don't like that...creepy. :nope: I'll have to figure how to get my own up there.

[Edit: Its gone now. It still was creepy.]

[Sailor Steve]

These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Resupply.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/img005tc.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/img004kt.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/img003z.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/img02iq.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/UBoat_loading_torpedo.jpg

As you can see it was not a job for the faint-of-heart. Did service boats carry the flotation devices to make a rear-to-front transfer? I don't know, but space was at a premium.

[krashkart]

!!!??? :o What the Hey? It changed? I liked the Navy Dude, I don't like that...creepy. :nope: I'll have to figure how to get my own up there.

[Edit: Its gone now. It still was creepy.]

:har::har:

I wore mine for a couple of days before it dawned on me. :haha:


EDIT: New members get hazed here with various avatars. If you want a custom avatar you can donate a certain amount to Subsim and PM Neal with a copy of your new avatar. :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

!!!??? :o What the Hey? It changed? I liked the Navy Dude, I don't like that...creepy. :nope: I'll have to figure how to get my own up there.

[Edit: Its gone now. It still was creepy.]
It comes at post #179 and is gone again at #180. There's another one somewhere in the 400s.

[Kafka BC]

These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same. ...

Now those are cool pics. Never seen them before.

It comes at post #179 and is gone again at #180. There's another one somewhere in the 400s.

Thanks for the warning. :DL

[Kafka BC]

Submitted as evidence
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=614&pictureid=5417

Fuunnnny. Now I shall always have a token to remember this day. :D

[VONHARRIS]

These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same



Amazing pictures
Thank you for sharing.

[andwii]

Very very nice pictures, love the pic of the doctor it reminds me of what my grandfather had to do when he was in the navy.

[zygoma]

Wow,
Many thanks to all for the history and pics. It does, indeed, sound more like a project for keeping the swabbies busy on slack days when there's not enough fuel to get to where the fighting is. I *do* remember hearing of one class of boat (not even sure which country's it was now) whose aft torpedoes were only loaded in port, by flooding the bow ballast, retaining the stern of the boat with some sort of crane, then "muzzle loading" the aft torps. Must'a been earlier than any in SH3, because most of the boats in-game seem to have torpedo loading hatches aft of the sail, roughly corresponding with the scenes in the pics.
OTOH, I *have* gotten pretty good at placing a bow fish into a target that I trust (or at least hope) will take at least one more to finish off, then diving to 25 or 30 meters and making a fast run *under* the target boat, trying to maintain a 90 degree AOB after I scoot under, then using an aft fish to try to finish it off. I've also learned to make A LOT of save points during these, because even with a C2 or Liberty with nobody seeming to man their guns will invariably open up mercilessly with AA and small deck guns, or whatever they've got, if I try to surface and quickly bring my deck gun(s) to bear for a coup de grace. This evening I got taken down to 66% hull integrity by a C3 and C2, both of whom I'd crippled with torps, before I got them finished off.
And Herr Kaleun Alpha, I see your travels have taken you farther than the Med and Atlantic. My dad raised me at Kenai #11 F&AM, Soldotna, Alaska.
Nice to see a fellow from the Craft. Although nobody has yet acknowledged my Morse sig.....mayhap no hams.......
Again, thanks to all for the great info. I've got a way different question about medics, but I'll start a separate thread for it. The doctor being "drawn & quartered" in the tug-of-war to get him from one boat to another made me think of it....
-- Perpetual N00benstein :.Zygoma --
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[Sailor Steve]

Although nobody has yet acknowledged my Morse sig.....mayhap no hams.......
The United States Navy made me a radioman, and forced me to learn Morse. We never used it, being that teletypes could send and recieve it at 120 wpm, and the day I got out I swore to forget it, and I did. It's easy enough to look up online, but as to your sig....mayhap no one but you cares......

[zygoma]

Steve,
The police chief I worked for in Fairbanks, Alaska in the 70s, said he'd been a radioman on a cruiser, and after mandatory traffic was passed, they'd copy press transmissions and type out the articles on a stripped-down manual typewriter, and that it was typically sent at around 55 to 60 wpm. They'd typically be typing around a paragraph behind at the end of the transmission, and would finish typing from memory. He'd be about 85 or 90 years old by now, and made the same vow never to use Morse again after he got out. He told me the only time he ever used it anymore was to identify air navigation beacons when he was flying his private airplane.
I don't know if he had RTTY available shipboard back then.
And the only reason I put any Morse in my sig is because a few other folks do as well and they don't seem to catch any flak about it.
Must be a shame to be the guy people can count on to dump on them.
Zygoma
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[Sailor Steve]

Not at all. I might actually have looked at one point, but your insistance on calling attention to it is what put me off.

I thought the "dumping" was fairly gentle, considering the reason for my doing it, but as always I could be wrong, and usually am. I apologize. :sunny:

[zygoma]

Steve,
Me too. Sorry, I'm struggling with an apparent low-atmospheric-pressure headache today.
Zygoma

[Sailor Steve]

I can understand that. I've created many quotes about myself. One of them is "Quick to judge, quick to condemn and quick to kick myself for being an idiot."