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Skybird
03-02-12, 06:50 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17231695

Do not complain about the Chinese - they only do what they can. Complain about the Americans being not able to prevent it.

A security architecture and military heavily depending on high tech computer networks and satellites. This story adds beef to my opinion that the Chinese must not try to equalise the American military on a 1:1 basis. They must focus on digital warfare, and I do not rule out that there they already are in the (secret) lead. They could maybe defeat the Amerians by paralysing their forces the way the Cylons did with the colonial fleet at the beginning of the new Battlestar Galactica series.

I do not even wish to know what they could do to the civilian infrastrructure in the US, which American computer and data security being even more under-developed than in Europe. Energy. Traffic. Stockmarkets. Companies. Air travel. Hospitals. Dams. Nuclear powerplants. Science facilities. Media. Communication. I probably would not find sleep anymore.

Ducimus
03-02-12, 07:03 PM
Well, the way all technology and industry is going over there, it won't be too long before they won't need to rip stuff off anymore, they'll able to make it themselves because all the innovation will be over there.

Torplexed
03-02-12, 08:26 PM
Yeah! If we're not careful the Chinese might seize control of our Space Transportation System and then we would have to rely on another nation to get astronauts into space.

Oh...wait. :88)

TLAM Strike
03-02-12, 09:11 PM
Hacking NASA. :hmmm:

Everything NASA does is mostly public domain; you could basically just ask for it. :haha:

the_tyrant
03-02-12, 10:36 PM
hey what do you know: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/03/99-percent-of-nasas-portable-devices-are-unencrypted.ars?clicked=related_right

NASA could stand to tighten up the security of its data, according to a report filed with the US House of Representatives Wednesday. Virtually none of the agency's portable devices are encrypted, and 48 of them were lost or stolen between April 2009 and April 2011. One of those was an unencrypted notebook containing algorithms to command and control the International Space Station.




edit:

it seems like their track record is terrible
" Out of 47 attempts last year, hackers managed to penetrate NASA***8217;s computer network 13 times."

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/nasa-hackers-had-full-functional-control/10443

Stealhead
03-03-12, 01:13 AM
Hacking NASA. :hmmm:

Everything NASA does is mostly public domain; you could basically just ask for it. :haha:

True but think what an enemy nation can do to ultra vulnerable targets like our banking system if you can cause massive unrest in your enemies home turf you pretty much win without firing one bullet.Make your enemy defeat himself.

Jimbuna
03-03-12, 08:06 AM
There was something on the news in the UK a week or so ago pointing out how vulnerable the banking and finance industry was to an attack on the international time system....huge transactions could possibly be carried out from continent to continent and freezing the time or setting it to a new time zone electronically would allow the transactions to go through before the various institutions were aware.

Onkel Neal
03-03-12, 08:15 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17231695

Do not complain about the Chinese - they only do what they can. Complain about the Americans being not able to prevent it.

A security architecture and military heavily depending on high tech computer networks and satellites. This story adds beef to my opinion that the Chinese must not try to equalise the American military on a 1:1 basis. They must focus on digital warfare, and I do not rule out that there they already are in the (secret) lead. They could maybe defeat the Amerians by paralysing their forces the way the Cylons did with the colonial fleet at the beginning of the new Battlestar Galactica series.

I do not even wish to know what they could do to the civilian infrastrructure in the US, which American computer and data security being even more under-developed than in Europe. Energy. Traffic. Stockmarkets. Companies. Air travel. Hospitals. Dams. Nuclear powerplants. Science facilities. Media. Communication. I probably would not find sleep anymore.


I think we should systematically take out their IT infrastructure, time for a little payback. And if they complain, nuke em. Atom bomb, it's the answer for everything.

krashkart
03-03-12, 08:47 AM
Atom bomb, it's the answer for everything.

Relieves migraines in a flash! :up:
Stuffy nose? Nuke it! :up:
Tired of that annoying hammertoe? Drop an A-bomb on it! :yeah:

If we run with the ball here, Neal, we could make an infomercial out of it... :hmmm:

Platapus
03-03-12, 10:56 AM
Well, the way all technology and industry is going over there, it won't be too long before they won't need to rip stuff off anymore, they'll able to make it themselves because all the innovation will be over there.


Good, then the US can save a lot of money and steal technology. I am sick of everyone else stealing our technology and making money off it. It is time for other countries to invest THEIR money in R&D and we reap the benefits. :yeah:

kraznyi_oktjabr
03-03-12, 12:45 PM
Good, then the US can save a lot of money and steal technology. I am sick of everyone else stealing our technology and making money off it. It is time for other countries to invest THEIR money in R&D and we reap the benefits. :yeah:Taking into account that most likely Chinese companies will take care of producing that product or atleast act as major subcontractor I don't think Chinese government will mind very much. After all - somebody just refined a product they can copy! :yeah:

CaptainHaplo
03-03-12, 01:28 PM
I saw "full functional control" and had a Beavis and Butthead moment.....

Just wanted to share...

krashkart
03-03-12, 05:37 PM
I saw "full functional control" and had a Beavis and Butthead moment.....

Just wanted to share...

I still get a hankering for that show sometimes... some things just cannot be outgrown I guess. :)

razark
03-03-12, 06:33 PM
Everything NASA does is mostly public domain; you could basically just ask for it.
I will point out that NASA tends to handle a decent amount of stuff that is considered sensitive, even if not classified. The difference between a missile and a satellite launcher is the payload. The difference between a missile guidance computer and a spacecraft navigation system is the destination.

There's a huge stack or rules on how to handle and release STI (Science and Technical Information) to the public. Added to that is the headache of having International Partners, both onsite and with remote network access. Then there's the fact that a large portion of the data is generated by contractors, and copyrights/patents/intellectual property may be owned by companies, and not the government. Such things must also be controlled, to prevent violation of those companies' rights.

There's also some classified data on NASA systems. For example, recon satellite capabilites are known to certain NASA people due to the fallout from the Columbia loss.

mapuc
03-03-12, 07:24 PM
Hacking NASA. :hmmm:

Everything NASA does is mostly public domain; you could basically just ask for it. :haha:

I think that the chinese have been watching to much videos on youtube and have read some conspiracy pages. I think that they must have been brainwashed and have been filled with stuff that NASA is a very secret agency

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