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Skybird
02-24-12, 01:00 PM
I found this in German news. a British businessman tells in parliament a tale of a big heap of money getting handed around amongst British and American banks for the purpose of - well, what? If real, the issue certainly is giving the discription of a conspiracy of unimaginable proportions.

LINK (http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article13885678/Die-unglaubliche-15-Billionen-Dollar-Verschwoerung.html) the German story that hooked me
LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5hqvTWkYg) an English video from the British parliament with the original speech
LINK (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/03/strange-case-lord-james-foundation-x/print) the story coverage by The Guardian

JU_88
02-24-12, 01:31 PM
I dont know how some people manage to sleep at night, nor can i even begin to comprehend how its possible to reach such a level of power while having such little intergrity.
If its true, (nothing surprises me anymore) I hope they rot in hell. :nope:

Skybird
02-24-12, 02:01 PM
I have lost faith in mankind long time ago, and stories like this certainly do not motivate me to see if i can revive it. Why should I even want that?

BossMark
02-24-12, 03:38 PM
I lost faith in May 2010 when the bloody tories and there muppets the lib dems went into power :wah::wah::wah:

STEED
02-25-12, 07:01 AM
I'm with Ken Livingstone, shoot a Banker a day.

Personally I would shoot all the corrupt Bankers in the world if I had my way.

JU_88
02-25-12, 08:57 AM
I lost faith in May 2010 when the bloody tories and there muppets the lib dems went into power :wah::wah::wah:

Labour are no better, IF i vote next election it will be for anyone but the Cons/Libs/Lab. Cant trust any of them anymore, they are all sell outs.

Jimbuna
02-25-12, 09:22 AM
If the government don't take my offer seriously within the next few days I'll simply withdraw it and purchase more aviation diecast :DL

STEED
02-25-12, 09:58 AM
Labour are no better, IF i vote next election it will be for anyone but the Cons/Libs/Lab. Cant trust any of them anymore, they are all sell outs.

I agree, the big three have had there day.

Time for them to roll over and die and make way for the smaller party's, lets see a new party in government than these dinosaurs who between them have screwed this country up and spat on us all. Time to kick them where it hurts.

Skybird
02-25-12, 10:16 AM
On the front of the German Reichstag, at the roof, there is a huge engraved scripture: "Dem deutschen Volke" (=To the German People).

A pathetic phrase, hollow, and not meaning anything that cannot be seen the other way around at the same time.

There - and on the front entry of any other parliamentary building in the world - another writing should be displayed:

"By threat of death penalty, entry is prohibited for business lobbyists, religious missionaries and members of political parties. Violators will be shot on sight without further warning. "

We live in a time when state reason and state politics have been successfully privatized. :88) The creation of legislation and the formulation of laws and treaties already has been outsourced to private entrepreneurs since long. Those formally being legitimised to do that, do not do it and often are too incompetent to do it. Those doing it for real, are not legitimised by elections.

u crank
02-25-12, 01:31 PM
I see no other option except for countries with a democratic process to enact laws that prevent lobbyists and bankers from controlling government. Of course we've gone past this already. They have some control but the truth is they want complete control. Under the present system it's only a matter of time.

What choices remain for the people? I hate to think about it.

JU_88
02-25-12, 03:03 PM
I see no other option except for countries with a democratic process to enact laws that prevent lobbyists and bankers from controlling government. Of course we've gone past this already. They have some control but the truth is they want complete control. Under the present system it's only a matter of time.

What choices remain for the people? I hate to think about it.

Yep, The world badly needs to get money out of politics, Are the police, courts or military allowed to accept bribes? No so why the hell is it legal for politicians to accept 'donations'?

mapuc
02-27-12, 07:23 PM
Have just watched the Swedish news

In one of the stories they had a report about some greek politician that have transfed a huge amount of money to England and switzerland.

Markus

Skybird
02-27-12, 07:39 PM
Have just watched the Swedish news

In one of the stories they had a report about some greek politician that have transfed a huge amount of money to England and switzerland.

Markus

One...? Dozens...! :haha: Plus the rich elite, millionaires and billionaires - they have transferred their wealth out of Greece since long time now, these proud rich Greeks who are so solidaric with their people. They do not wish to get taxed, but foreign workers and employes - these are stupid enough to be expected to pay in their place for that proud honourful Greece, and to risk their own pensions and future material wellbeing becasue proud, honourful Greek millionaires being taxed and contributing their share?! That certainly is expected to much!

The next Greek stepping in front of me and telling me about the pride of the Greek and the Greek honours and solidarity gets an arrow to the knee from me, promised.

mapuc
02-27-12, 07:51 PM
You're not the only one with those feelings, I think many european have them, when it comes to greece.

When I saw this report I remembered this thread and thought, could it be that thise money is coming from greece?

Markus

soopaman2
02-27-12, 08:33 PM
I see no other option except for countries with a democratic process to enact laws that prevent lobbyists and bankers from controlling government. Of course we've gone past this already. They have some control but the truth is they want complete control. Under the present system it's only a matter of time.

What choices remain for the people? I hate to think about it.

Oh u crank! You must be ready for the gulag


How foolish!

How dare you interfere with our congressional "pitfalls" (bribes) and interfering with lobbyists (even bigger bribes) would be detrimental to our "democratic premise".

Stay where you are, you will be "seen" by a member of FEMA or homeland security to determine your "patriotism"

LULZ, funny scenario, but I see that happening within 5 years.