Iran's two new submarines...

[maillemaker]

http://en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20120210/171255438.html

The 120-ton Ghadir class submarines are highly maneuverable and best suited for missions in shallow waters.

This must mean they attract depth charges and sink fast. :)

Steve

[Mittelwaechter]

Well - they may carry those Iranian 'Hoot' (whale) torpedos - supercavitation eels - to get rid of the depth charge droppers and their bigger sisters.

[vanjast]

Iran has recently threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, a major export route for oil supplies from the Middle East
This would be interesting... :)

[andwii]

lol two torpedo tubes. I call epic fail Iran. also whats the point of well to me it looks like its radio antena stickin up from the side of the sub, wouldnt that kinda be the opposite effect of being stealthy in shallow water, kinda hard to go shallow when you got a big thing sticken up eh? lol

[vanjast]

Don't for 1 second underestimate diesel/electric subs. They're quieter than nuclear subs and more difficult to detect.

Don't forget their strategy for these subs.. local defense is their game..
They're forming a 'curtain' around Iran and wherever and it'll be risky for any sub/ship trying to penetrate this curtain.

The west's only option is IR satelite observation as these subs must surface.. and very patient attack sub commanders. BUT with many 'bees' buzzing around they might overwhelm the attack subs

Air superiority will be paramount and superior tactics will rule here :)

[Sailor Steve]

What does this have to do with SH3? We have a forum specifically dedicated to real news. It's called General Topics. We also have a forum specifically dedicated to real ship and submarine news.

[Gereke]

:yawn:

[vanjast]

What does this have to do with SH3? We have a forum specifically dedicated to real news. It's called General Topics. We also have a forum specifically dedicated to real ship and submarine news.
Is there a way to move this topic then ?

[Sailor Steve]

This forum's moderator could do it.

I apologize for being rude. There's really nothing wrong with it. It just annoys me and I say something. It's a thread, and it will thrive or it will die. Either way, it is what it is. I'm just old, crankyand obsessive-compulsive, and I'll probably say something next time, and there will be a next time. It's not against any rules.

[Hinrich Schwab]

Don't for 1 second underestimate diesel/electric subs. They're quieter than nuclear subs and more difficult to detect.

Don't forget their strategy for these subs.. local defense is their game..
They're forming a 'curtain' around Iran and wherever and it'll be risky for any sub/ship trying to penetrate this curtain.

The west's only option is IR satelite observation as these subs must surface.. and very patient attack sub commanders. BUT with many 'bees' buzzing around they might overwhelm the attack subs

Air superiority will be paramount and superior tactics will rule here :)


Granted, tracking diesel boats is a bit trickier than nukes, they are operating in some of the worst waters any sub can operate in. It is worse than the English Channel. It is very shallow compared to most other major littoral areas. I agree that aerial recon would be pivotal, but once they were detected, they have nowhere to really hide. I agree that underestimating them is not wise, but it is equally foolish to overestimate them, too.