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nikimcbee
02-10-12, 01:40 PM
Daughter posts something Dad doesn't like on facebook. Dad posts back:D.

http://www.1190kex.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104673&article=9738438

Rhodes
02-10-12, 01:55 PM
:o:haha::yeah:

vienna
02-10-12, 01:58 PM
Nice shot grouping....

Also, I don't think this is covered by the warranty...

u crank
02-10-12, 02:08 PM
Oh my. I think I see a psychiatrist couch for this family in their future.

Also for this kind of damage you have to get the extended warranty. :har:

Molon Labe
02-10-12, 02:13 PM
I think this plays well into the whole anti-entitlement culture, which I think is a good thing. (The caveat being that you should wait for a person to be of legal working age before you start using the 'get-a-job-and-pay-for-your-own-crap schtick) But when you consider the disconnect between her version and his version, it makes me wonder. I'm not willing to turn this guy into a folk hero just yet.

BossMark
02-10-12, 02:14 PM
Nice one :yeah:

nikimcbee
02-10-12, 02:17 PM
Oh my. I think I see a psychiatrist couch for this family in their future.

Also for this kind of damage you have to get the extended warranty. :har:

Just wait until he goes to the retirement home.:dead:


Viva the Dad revolution angainst bratty kids!

kraznyi_oktjabr
02-10-12, 02:32 PM
:har: I don't know family so can't say whose version of events is closer to true. What ever is the case dad's response was quite special. :D

MH
02-10-12, 02:35 PM
The kid need better laptop....

http://www.whitegadget.com/attachments/other-brand-laptops/3376d1200728357-panasonic-toughbook-cf-30-laptop-4565.jpg

Watch out for dady with 0.5

Molon Labe
02-10-12, 03:11 PM
Reminds me of the tales of Chinese executions (of which, I have no idea if they're actually true) where they charge the family for the cost of the bullet.

kranz
02-10-12, 03:19 PM
Reminds me of the tales of Chinese executions (of which, I have no idea if they're actually true) where they charge the family for the cost of the bullet.
highly possible. up to some time you could get executed for ants prices speculation.

as far as I know the mentality of facebook users I say that it was all staged and both the father and the daughter did it for "Like it".
if not, I agree with u crank, they need a good shrink and a slap in the face to wake up.

Stealhead
02-10-12, 03:40 PM
I think this plays well into the whole anti-entitlement culture, which I think is a good thing. (The caveat being that you should wait for a person to be of legal working age before you start using the 'get-a-job-and-pay-for-your-own-crap schtick) But when you consider the disconnect between her version and his version, it makes me wonder. I'm not willing to turn this guy into a folk hero just yet.


The girl is legal working age in the US 15 years old I had a part time job at 15 and if I wanted something that was how I got the money to buy it the fathers feelings on that are reasonable assuming it was not all a stunt which it more than likely was to some extent.

Ducimus
02-10-12, 03:56 PM
NICE! If his daughter is as lazy and as disrespectful as he says, then that was a fitting punishment. Harsh yeah, but when i was a kid, my punishment was physical.

edit:
As an aside, I started working when i was 15. By the time i was 18 I had worked three different jobs. The third of which i held down for two years before i left home for the military.

AVGWarhawk
02-10-12, 04:06 PM
This man might be in trouble with the exploding tip bullets he is sporting. I believe these are illegal in the US.

Schroeder
02-10-12, 04:07 PM
As an aside, I started working when i was 15. By the time i was 18 I had worked three different jobs. The third of which i held down for two years before i left home for the military.
Over here you are still in school at 15.:hmmm:

Platapus
02-10-12, 04:09 PM
Exploding hollow points :hmmm:

MH
02-10-12, 04:16 PM
Exploding hollow points :hmmm:

Don't be so anal-he meant expanding or whatever.:)

Kid job is to study and have fun-with in reason.
In same cases working may be option but not just for the sake of responsibility.

AVGWarhawk
02-10-12, 04:30 PM
Exploding hollow points :hmmm:


There are bullets manufactured with exploding points. Illegal in most cities if not all. Not the man kind of changed his tune when he said he got them from....:hmmm:

misha1967
02-10-12, 04:50 PM
Exploding, expanding, no matter... :har:

Regardless, he should've gone with FMJ. They're cheaper and they're more likely to go all the way through the laptop. But I guess he got the point across anyway. :DL

Ducimus
02-10-12, 05:16 PM
He might have meant expanding. I really don't know, but it was plainly obvious to me, he was REALLY pissed. Not by his actions, but by his speech. I know what its like being so pissed you stutter on your own words a bit, or having trouble putting the next word into the sentence. He was doing both when speaking.

edit:

what im surpsied nobody seems to have noticed is where he was discharging that firearm. Have to be how far away from populated areas again? I don't remember the exact number, and im sure it probably changes city by city, but im pretty sure he was too close.

Herr-Berbunch
02-10-12, 05:34 PM
In same cases working may be option but not just for the sake of responsibility.

So do you suggest kids should do nothing to help in the household, and then go off and successfully fend for themselves? :hmmm:

I think that generation is already in fruition. :nope:

Ducimus
02-10-12, 05:45 PM
So do you suggest kids should do nothing to help in the household, and then go off and successfully fend for themselves? :hmmm:

I think that generation is already in fruition. :nope:

I've seen firsthand the results of someone who had no responsibities around the house growing up. I call this self centered person, "My ex". Long story short, if i didn't pick it up, or clean it, whatever "it" was - it didn't get done. This includes ALL laundery, her's as well as mine.

I saw the place we used to live in (that she was still living in) a month and a half later to clear myself off the lease. Not a SINGLE thing was done. Dish's were piled in the sink filled with stagnet water, carpets were filthy, no sweeping, cat litter strewn accross the kitchen floor, piles of cat hair on the on the bed where the cat slept, piles of laundry.

Her parents should have been hauled over the carpet and shown what their daughter was like. No parent should EVER let their kid grow up to become that. In the long term, by making his daughter do chores, regardless if she likes it or not, he's setting the stage to how she'll live later in life. I myself HATED housework growing up, but i was made to do it. As an adult, i keep on top of it.

AVGWarhawk
02-10-12, 06:05 PM
I had trash and lawn detail starting around age 10. Always told to make my bed. Still have the same detail plus extra! Well, my wife makes the bed. :DL

MH
02-10-12, 06:34 PM
So do you suggest kids should do nothing to help in the household, and then go off and successfully fend for themselves? :hmmm:



...it was about sending kids to work for money.

I did work as a kid during school vacations but i think it is unnecessary for 15 year old kid to do both at the same time.
If a child has some outlandish requests he can earn money as long as it does not interfere with other things.

Reality usually catch up with all of us anyway.

Making your kids life miserable because life is though is stupid and may have exactly opposite effect as far as self confidence.

Be easy no dum dums

Reece
02-10-12, 06:43 PM
Justice has been served!!:yep:

Stealhead
02-10-12, 08:12 PM
He might have meant expanding. I really don't know, but it was plainly obvious to me, he was REALLY pissed. Not by his actions, but by his speech. I know what its like being so pissed you stutter on your own words a bit, or having trouble putting the next word into the sentence. He was doing both when speaking.

edit:

what im surpsied nobody seems to have noticed is where he was discharging that firearm. Have to be how far away from populated areas again? I don't remember the exact number, and im sure it probably changes city by city, but im pretty sure he was too close.


He might have been in a county area at least down in my part FL so long as you don't make too much noise above the local standards no one usually complains.Of course where I live almost everyone owns guns and hunts so you need to really pop off 20 or 30 rounds rapidly to really get noticed.Amazingly in FL a judge ruled that you can fire a gun anywhere so long as you are not firing at or over an occupied dwelling!That is a bit unsafe if you ask me.Though there are separate laws that require the person to safely operate the weapon.

Personally I would have sold the laptop on E-Bay that way I could purchase expanding exploding laptop slaying bullets.

Ducimus
02-10-12, 08:17 PM
Personally I would have sold the laptop on E-Bay.

Perhaps, but you gotta admit, introducing that laptop (under those circumstances) to say... Mr Mossberg 500, would be very satisfying. :O:

Gargamel
02-10-12, 10:18 PM
Over here you are still in school at 15.:hmmm:

Same here. But you can still work after school.

AngusJS
02-10-12, 10:25 PM
So for the crime of expressing her opinion about family matters to her friends, the father expresses his opinion about family matters to the world. And instead of punishing her by simply taking away her property and donating it to someone who needs it, he decides to shoot it.

Yeah, no anger problems there.

What a psycho.

I imagine that when he finally needs help from her, she won't be there. I won't blame her.

soopaman2
02-10-12, 10:44 PM
My dad was murdered before I was born. Thats what you get for being a drug dealer in the late 70s.

Right?

Anyways I am all messed up as an adult, so be nice to your dad, you could always be like me and not have one.

Your pops might be messed up, but at least you were able to feel a loving embrace from him..:salute:

I'd take an abusive dad over nothing...One of the few regrets in my life was being raised by a single mother, and having to figure out all the manly stuff myself.

Stealhead
02-10-12, 11:21 PM
"Perhaps, but you gotta admit, introducing that laptop (under those circumstances) to say... Mr Mossberg 500, would be very satisfying."

I was thinking a nice slug from a 12 would really have split that PC.Of course in the same situation I would not have reacted like the farther did I dont really see why everyone needs to see how you discipline your children.

@soopaman2 Hmm I have close friends from school that had a violently abusive father fists in your face and seeing your dad choke your mother at the dinner table that is crappy when they come from you parent I am not so sure that they would agree with your opinion.

I don't think there is evidence to suggest that the farther is abusive or overly strict for that matter.Making your bed,sweeping a kitchen floor cleaning and putting up dishes that is nothing outrageous and takes up 20 or 30 minutes total of a day if that a part time job only takes up a few hours a day as well.I would judge by the his stutters that he was actually fairly upset that his daughter was so disrespectful considering that he had already grounded her for previous similar infraction.It is not like the man is beating the this kid or something.He probably did not need to post the video he could have just taken the laptop away that was a bit of overreaction to shot it and make it a public issue.It should not really be his concern what the friends think.

It sounds like the girl got mad over what ever the previous punishment was and posted her thoughts on Facebook which of course the dad found and he overreacted some what.Maybe the daughter has never been overly rebellious before and the farther does not know how do deal with it so he over reacted.

Gargamel
02-11-12, 12:38 AM
It was obvious to me that the mother and father are separated, with him remarrying. He stated the mother asked for a bullet for her. He may have meant step mom, but either way, this video had been discussed by at least 2 parents and agreed upon. Seems more like a calculated move than an over reaction. Rather see him shoot the laptop to vent his frustration than beat the crap outa the kid.

CaptainHaplo
02-11-12, 12:46 AM
He meant expanding - not exploding. A hollow point is exactly that - hollow. No such thing as an "exploding" hollow point. It would actually defeat the purpose. He simply mis-spoke.

Now I don't know where these folks live, but its obviously in the southwest somewhere. Very doubtful that there was any violation of law regarding the weapon discharge.

As for the "psycho" comment - nothing at all psychotic about the man's actions. While you may have a "gut reaction" due to his use of a firearm, you don't get to redefine the meaning of words just because you don't like his actions.

I personally would not have chosen the method he did for disciplining my child, but every parent has different approaches. I do have to say that the idea of "grounding" his daughter from the computer "until whatever year" she gets such privelege back is a bit excessive in my view. Personally, with the little rant she posted, I would simply sit her down, welcome her to the real world, and let her know that from now on, every expense she creates - a portion of the mortgage, utilities, food, etc are going to be accounted for, and she can either pay them within 30 days (meaning get a job asap) or do chores in "trade" of payment. She want's to be treated like an adult and not a "slave", then she has to deal with the responsibilities of an adult world. She could learn exactly how much the adult world does treat us like "slaves" - responsibility is a pain in the ass - but we do what we must.

Rilder
02-11-12, 01:32 AM
Considering he probably paid for the laptop himself, I think the jokes on him since he probably essentially destroyed something he spent a good thousand dollars on. (Unless it was one of those crappy ones only good for browsing the net)

Very stupid of him, he should of locked it up somewhere and used it as leverage to get her to do work.

Of course if all she did was use it to browse Facebook then shooting it was a mercy killing on the poor laptop.:yep:

MH
02-11-12, 01:36 AM
Of course if all she did was use it to browse Facebook then shooting it was a mercy killing on the poor laptop.:yep:

The tough guy installed 100$ software for her to use at school and then shot it.
Dumb&^%&%.

Stealhead
02-11-12, 02:43 AM
It was obvious to me that the mother and father are separated, with him remarrying. He stated the mother asked for a bullet for her. He may have meant step mom, but either way, this video had been discussed by at least 2 parents and agreed upon. Seems more like a calculated move than an over reaction. Rather see him shoot the laptop to vent his frustration than beat the crap outa the kid.

Two people can overreact very easily I am sure a few wars have be caused by a handful of people overreacting.

Or there could be a conflict between the 3 parents as to what is fair discipline we have no proof that all three parents mother,father(pops might be completely whipped or do what new wife says no matter what),step mother agree at all on discipline.And in many cases one person may be very dominate for all we know the step mother could be a total control freak and dad does what she says.We lack a lot of information about the family so we cant really say for sure how fair or un-fair the situation might really be. Really all we know is that the father is an IT guy and the daughter supposedly posted things on Facebook.


It is not uncommon for step parents and step children to have serious issues.It is possible that step mother may be stricter on the step daughter than she is on her own children this is not uncommon and would explain why the girl felt complied to act as she did if one child is be treated in one fashion but another get to do what ever they want.It is also possible that the step daughter dislikes the stepmother and will not obey her rules(how do we know that dad is the rule maker he may only be the enforcer)

Still I have a sneaking suspension that the whole thing is fake and the guy just shoot some old busted laptop I mean why would you not say this in person to the kid and say here come watch me shot your laptop that spent $1,000.00 on I am teaching you that when someone makes you upset or disobeys you shot something of theirs.Also if guy is so smart why did he not just block Facebook all together the first time she posted things on it he is an IT guy after all.Like I say it is either fake or the guy is slightly dense.

Stealhead
02-11-12, 03:34 AM
That was me talking about Florida the thing is now you have a lot ding bats that do not know how to handle a fire arm busting rounds off.

Couple months back the Snowbird Yankee(though to be honest I know a lot of good hunters and marksmen from up north) teenagers where on their parents property shooting it turns out an AR-15 and some knock off AK-47.This land is about 300 yards from mine and I heard what I am very certain was the zing of round so I went down there.I see two under 18 kids with these guns and no adult present (mom was in the house).Long story short they where basically firing at my house.I told the mother that her kids are under 18 and can not fire any firearm without direct adult supervision and that they also needed to fire in some other direction from any house and build some sort of back drop which they lacked all they where doing was bump firing which to me is very stupid and a waste of money and time why not challenge yourself to actually hit something other than the ground or sky?

I looked up the dad on Facebook it seems that he was being fairly honest according to people that know him seems that he also has 3 or 4 kids not sure but one died at some point.

AngusJS
02-11-12, 07:53 AM
As for the "psycho" comment - nothing at all psychotic about the man's actions. While you may have a "gut reaction" due to his use of a firearm, you don't get to redefine the meaning of words just because you don't like his actions.It's obviously the common usage of "psycho," meaning crazy or weird. Of course he's not having hallucinations or delusions, symptoms of real psychosis. I'm pretty sure "psycho" is not the preferred clinical term anyway. :roll:

What kind of thought process did he have? "Hmm, my daughter wrote something in private that I don't like. What should I do? I know, I'll shoot her laptop!" :doh:

MH
02-11-12, 08:42 AM
A cool tough daddy hunter.:haha:
Anyway the video was fun to watch.

Penguin
02-11-12, 10:13 AM
:haha:
That should teach those stupid teens of today not to post everything on facebook :O:

I do have to say that the idea of "grounding" his daughter from the computer "until whatever year" she gets such privelege back is a bit excessive in my view.

To be fair he also says that after being grounded she can have a new laptop when she buys it herself, after paying back the $130 for the software - and $1 per bullet. :know:

Sailor Steve
02-11-12, 12:38 PM
To be fair he also says that after being grounded she can have a new laptop when she buys it herself, after paying back the $130 for the software - and $1 per bullet. :know:
Fair? FAIR??? He's wasting his money and hers! That laptop was dead after the first one! Everything else was just pure mean spite! :O:

Betonov
02-11-12, 01:05 PM
Oh I remember when I was 16. My dad took the power cable of my computer for one week due to some bad grades and I wanted to kill him. But today as I look back it would have been better if I killed myself for being such a spoiled brat :DL The shame the shame :nope:

Howard313
02-11-12, 05:21 PM
Ehh, on one hand his daughter was probably just blowing off steam after putting up with life's little stresses, on the other hand posting that on facebook probably wasn't the best idea, IT Tech father or not.

R.I.P. one perfectly good laptop. :shifty:

Remember kids, you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family.

:salute:

Stealhead
02-11-12, 05:43 PM
I think at least the dad should have taken some time to cool off first it seems pretty clear by his nervous smoking and stuttering that he had just recently discovered his daughters rantings true the mother might have agreed(did all 3 parents though it is not clear) and did he just call them on the phone and they agree that something be done not necessarily 10 minutes after you find the infraction and are still angry about it.

He should have taken a few good hours to think about what to do it seems that he reacted pretty quickly.And posting it on Facebook and Youtube might seem like a good idea but take note that he seems overly concerned what the girls friends think...Who cares what a bunch a of teenagers think? That seems a bit immature to me and makes it seem like he is really angry because he got slighted and that a bunch of teenagers saw it so he acts as immaturely as his teenage daughter and embarrasses her in return for her embarrassing him.If this kid acts out then she must be getting conflicting treatment I bet she is spoiled rotten if the dad truly was this stern I do not think hed be having such troubles.

kiwi_2005
02-12-12, 06:00 AM
18,052,207 views in 4 days :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kl1ujzRidmU#!

Rilder
02-12-12, 07:05 AM
Remember kids, you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your family.


To some people like myself that phrase isn't quite true. I consider close friends to be family, as much or even more deserving of the title then a good portion of my actual "Family"

Platapus
02-12-12, 08:30 AM
This being on the Internets Tubes, we have to consider the possibility that this is just a performance. It looked a bit contrived to me. But it could be true.

However, as a responsible gun owner, I find this man's actions unacceptable. Assuming this video was "real", I am concerned with anyone would use violence with a handgun against an inanimate object as a way of punishing someone.

I think this man is worth watching. :yep: What is he going to do next, shoot his daughter's pet kitten?

But my money is still that this was contrived. If it is not, then I have real concerns for the family.

CaptainHaplo
02-12-12, 12:42 PM
However, as a responsible gun owner, I find this man's actions unacceptable. Assuming this video was "real", I am concerned with anyone would use violence with a handgun against an inanimate object as a way of punishing someone.

What a way to twist it... "violence against an inanimate object" - would you have felt better if he hit it with a hammer? Oh wait, thats violence. How about tossed it into a fire? Violence. A filled bathtub? Drowning is violence. Heck, even "tossing" it is violent. Using this logic, any sport where a ball becomes airborne is "violent" and should be banned.

His intention was to destroy the laptop. Destruction of an object requires violence in some form.

I think this man is worth watching. :yep: What is he going to do next, shoot his daughter's pet kitten?

Talk about going on a stretch. Moving from inanimate objects to animate ones on some "suspicion" because you don't agree with the guy's action.... What are you going to do next? Given your concern, perhaps you as a "responsible" gun owner, will go watch this guy yourself. Maybe you will see him do something else you don't agree with, and shoot him to stop it. Maybe you should be watched instead?

As we used to say in EOD "Never force it, use a bigger hammer!"

See - here you are advocating using larger weaponry - and speaking of working with explosives....

It is when people are so solidly convinced that they way of thinking is right, that people become dangerous.

Oh look - see your admitting that - because you feel this guy was "wrong" and your view is "right" - you have become dangerous. So you definitely should be monitored....

See how idiotic things get when they are overblown, stretched and twisted????

Hottentot
02-12-12, 12:55 PM
What a way to twist it... "violence against an inanimate object" - would you have felt better if he hit it with a hammer? Oh wait, thats violence. How about tossed it into a fire? Violence. A filled bathtub? Drowning is violence. Heck, even "tossing" it is violent. Using this logic, any sport where a ball becomes airborne is "violent" and should be banned.

I'd be interested in knowing why he didn't use a hammer. If the point was to destroy the computer, this would have served the same purpose and been much cheaper.

Why shoot it?

Takeda Shingen
02-12-12, 12:55 PM
I think at least the dad should have taken some time to cool off first it seems pretty clear by his nervous smoking and stuttering that he had just recently discovered his daughters rantings true the mother might have agreed(did all 3 parents though it is not clear) and did he just call them on the phone and they agree that something be done not necessarily 10 minutes after you find the infraction and are still angry about it.

He should have taken a few good hours to think about what to do it seems that he reacted pretty quickly.And posting it on Facebook and Youtube might seem like a good idea but take note that he seems overly concerned what the girls friends think...Who cares what a bunch a of teenagers think? That seems a bit immature to me and makes it seem like he is really angry because he got slighted and that a bunch of teenagers saw it so he acts as immaturely as his teenage daughter and embarrasses her in return for her embarrassing him.If this kid acts out then she must be getting conflicting treatment I bet she is spoiled rotten if the dad truly was this stern I do not think hed be having such troubles.

I agree. He seemed barely in control. Honestly, what kid hasn't mouthed off to their parents? Teens say all kinds of stupid things. The use of the firearm in the end only seemed to support this notion of him being on the edge. Not a guy that I would want living next door to me.

Armistead
02-12-12, 02:22 PM
The issues here are more than this video shows, I wouldn't be surprised if a social worker shows up at this house.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this father show up on the talk show circuit or on Dr. Phil, could all be a ploy.

No doubt todays generation of kids are lazy and immature in many ways due to the technology that abounds, but parents have to work together to set and enforce guidelines.

My concerns are a parent with a child going through that stage not being able to handle it. His tactics will solve nothing, but cause more hatred and rebellion. Geesh, grounded her for 3 months last time, name calling, he acted like a child.

My Dad was tough, but an alcoholic, he pulled stunts like that once in awhile. I can remember when we moved to NC there were lots of lakes and I went fishing and didn't make it home in time to do my chores. My birthday was in two days. My father showed me all the fishing stuff he bought me and tore it up in front of me. Course, I was prolly in the 4th grade. I went to school, but at age 15 was working 40 hours a week and was required to pay rent, etc. From that age on anything I had I paid for.
I can remember being grounded for months all the time, that's abuse.

Sorry folks, this Dad doesn't fly. I see someone that is rude and abusive and the child probably grew up this way, truth be told they're two peas in a pod and both need professional help.

u crank
02-12-12, 02:26 PM
Not a guy that I would want living next door to me.

Right to that. Funny this guy made a point of mentioning that he was an IT guy, then destroys the laptop. He could have just as easily temporally 'disabled' it. And how do we know this was the daughter's laptop? Could have been a piece of junk. After watching again it looks more like a stunt but if not the guy has issues.

People do stuff to be famous. Remember Balloon Boy.

Rilder
02-12-12, 02:41 PM
Right to that. Funny this guy made a point of mentioning that he was an IT guy, then destroys the laptop. He could have just as easily temporally 'disabled' it. And how do we know this was the daughter's laptop? Could have been a piece of junk. After watching again it looks more like a stunt but if not the guy has issues.

People do stuff to be famous. Remember Balloon Boy.

This, there is no way he's an IT guy if the first thing he turns to is "HEY LETS SHOOT IT WITH A GUN."

There is just so much better stuff he could of done.

How about going into her browser, open up the browser history (If she hasn't cleared it) and then going into your router and blocking any site that isn't helping her with her schoolwork, if you need to get to those sites simply set your computer to trusted and allow trusted computers to access those sites. (I'm just going off my own routers settings)


Maybe he thinks Real life is a FPS where every thing can be solved with gunfire, and if gunfire doesn't work, EXPLOSIONS.

Sammi79
02-12-12, 04:51 PM
:har: Very very American, and very good at that. Not meaning to be patronising, but being British I sometimes think about you guys as long lost wayward cousins, and to see one of you act in this way makes me feel more than a little bit proud. (of you)

I think it is real folks, it is on a lot of news media sites. It still may not be of course, but the only thing I've found to discredit it so far was a teenager using bad logic (like facebook being one of the most secure websites in the world :doh:) to express his personal incredulity. I will keep looking.

It is very interesting that it has gained the attention it has and provoked a library of responses (certainly not just here) from people expressing their views mostly along the lines of him being unacceptable yadda yadda :yawn:. Here in no firearms allowed country, I would have had to use more primitive means, which incidentally would have looked much more violent.

I think it is clear he was furious - but he controlled it beautifully I think. No raised voice, no swearing, violence? in my experience violence is far less controlled. People are attributing his halting tone to his anger, I see this differently however. This is his disappointment, not his anger. He is choking back the pain he feels for having to berate someone whom he loves deeply. It brought a tear to my eye to see it in him, I have seen it in my own parents eyes and in the eyes of other parents. You might well say he doesn't have to, and there are many suggestions as to more appropriate punitive measures some of which I can agree with but; she is getting a very valuable lesson, and if she turns out good in the end this will certainly have been a factor. Anger? better out than in I say - and certainly better far away from anybody else.

Aaaah the communications revolution. :cool:

Regards, Sam.

MH
02-12-12, 05:22 PM
Sorry.. but the daddy looks just like pissed off kid.
Doing it with hammer could be less stylish than..exploding bullets.:haha:

Tribesman
02-12-12, 06:43 PM
Here in no firearms allowed country
When did Wales ban guns Sammi?

Sammi79
02-12-12, 08:45 PM
Tribesman,

You've got a point there I could borrow farmer Evans' mums shotgun, that would certainly be a bit more violent.

MH,

No apology necessary.
I wander why I see things differently to you, init boyo.

Regards, Sam.

MH
02-12-12, 08:59 PM
No apology necessary.
I wander why I see things differently to you, init boyo.

Regards, Sam.

I'm probably wimpy daddy.
Shooting my or daughter's property for educational purposes seems a bit extreme even if i may feel like doing it.
Besides ....i would end up with criminal charges.

CaptainHaplo
02-13-12, 01:57 AM
This, there is no way he's an IT guy if the first thing he turns to is "HEY LETS SHOOT IT WITH A GUN."

There is just so much better stuff he could of done.

How about going into her browser, open up the browser history (If she hasn't cleared it) and then going into your router and blocking any site that isn't helping her with her schoolwork, if you need to get to those sites simply set your computer to trusted and allow trusted computers to access those sites. (I'm just going off my own routers settings)


Maybe he thinks Real life is a FPS where every thing can be solved with gunfire, and if gunfire doesn't work, EXPLOSIONS.

I work in IT, am former military, and there have been plenty of times when I have wanted to "just shoot the dang thing". Have a cluster coming down this week - our group is raising money using it (for a party).... $1 per swing with a crowbar. $5 for a sledgehammer. For $100 bucks you can chain 3 servers to the back of your car and do a hot lap around the complex....

We could pull the drives, donate the servers, etc. They could do a lot of good - they are sweet boxes. But they are going to get trashed. Too many people have spent time, sweat, tears - and yes - blood - on them and so away they go....

Reasonable? Probably not. But neither is shooting a laptop. Then again - after spending $130 bucks on software, who knows how much personal time, probably more than a few choice curse words as well - I can see why he was ticked enough to say "I'll just shoot the blasted thing".

If you have never felt like destroying a computer or other peice of technogical infrastructure in a gratuitously violent fashion, you haven't worked in IT for any length of time.

No one can dictate how another person should or should not "feel", react, or what perspective THEY have on an issue seen from afar. To judge another like that shows a lack of understanding of the complexities of human nature as well as a sense of self importance that does not suit you well.

Takeda Shingen
02-13-12, 04:21 PM
No one can dictate how another person should or should not "feel", react, or what perspective THEY have on an issue seen from afar. To judge another like that shows a lack of understanding of the complexities of human nature as well as a sense of self importance that does not suit you well.

You're right. At the same time, my gut reaction is not not want a person prone to shooting things out of anger to be the guy living next door. What if my car has got him blocked in? What if my tree is hanging over into his yard? What if he doesn't like the color of my fence?

CaptainHaplo
02-13-12, 08:28 PM
I see the point Takeda. Still, this is a person who chose to destroy property that - technically - belongs (at least in part) to him. His reaction was also geared to maximize impact upon a teenager he is responsible for.

To jump from that to "he should be watched cuz he's a nutcase with a gun" is one even superman would struggle with. There is a huge difference in the above, and "shooting her cute little kitten" or committing a violent crime against a neighbor or other innocent person.

We all see things differently. For me, trying to make the leap from a parent trying to "get through" to a rebellious teen to somehow making the guy a danger to society is just ludicrous.

Stealhead
02-13-12, 09:06 PM
I think his reaction and showing it on Facebook is only going cause more problems between the two not solve any the daughter will more
than likely just become more rebellious not less as I said before I personally think that in reality the parents must have been fairly relaxed
but had taken offense to original Facebook posting the man is really angry because he was slighted and that embarrased him so
he turns around and embarrasses her.I never hardly even spoke back to or said bad things about my parents because I respected them.
I think what happened is there was some sort of family disagreement that upset the daughter causing her to post things on Facebook
then she got grounded for 3 months and did the same thing as soon as she got the chance that implies that she is not normally
disciplined and has few serious boundaries set froth by the parents and therefore she did not choose to show any from of respect
even after her first grounding the parents set forth few rules then suddenly put some in place due to an insult clearly the kid learned nothing
from the punishment and now she has learned that her farther has no issue publicly embarrassing her the only thing she has learned is either to
better hide her future infractions or worse yet to do what ever she can to further upset the father.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB5iVLYlCaw&feature=player_embedded



Someone is offering the girl a job:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xI5Z1D-cPk&feature=related

Nippelspanner
02-13-12, 10:04 PM
I agree. He seemed barely in control. Honestly, what kid hasn't mouthed off to their parents? Teens say all kinds of stupid things. The use of the firearm in the end only seemed to support this notion of him being on the edge. Not a guy that I would want living next door to me.

Agreed!