Kim Jong-il dead

[CCIP]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693

...well. I'll refrain from snarky commentary, but there's really not much to say here.

However let's hope this isn't going to be a problem for the already-strained situation in Korea.

[CCIP]

I will, however, miss one of my favourite blogs now... :cry:

http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/

[the_tyrant]

:wah:
first Quadaffi, now Kim Jiong Il

All the funny crazy politicians are dying

[mookiemookie]

Let's reflect on the amazing achievements of Kim Jong Il

* Even before his birth, the future leader of North Korea was triggering miracles. Official biographers say his birth in a cabin on the slopes of Baekdu Mountain in February 1942 was foretold by a swallow and heralded by a double rainbow. When he was born, a new star appeared in the night sky.
* The first time he picked up a golf club, in 1994, Kim reportedly shot a 38-under par round on North Korea's only golf course, including 11 holes-in-one. He then decided to retire from the sport for ever.
* Kim has the ability to alter the weather simply through the power of thought.
* The fledgling leader was a genius as an infant, with official North Korean biographies stating that he had learned to walk at just 3 weeks and was talking at 8 weeks.
* As a junior high school pupil in Pyongyang, he corrected and chastised his teachers for their incorrect interpretations of history.
* Kim wrote six full operas in two years, "all of which are better than any in the history of music," according to his official biography.
* He designed the Tower of the Juche Idea, a 170-metre tower in the east bank of the River Taedong in central Pyongyang that is topped by a glowing red flame.
* Kim's official biography also claims that he wrote 1,500 books during his time at Kim Sung Il University, from where he graduated in 1964.
* According to the Korea Central News Agency, Kim is an expert on all aspects of the film industry and "improved the scripts and guided the production" of the movie "Diary of a Girl Student." His favourite movies are reportedly "Friday the 13th," "Rambo" and anything starring Elizabeth Taylor.
* Kim reportedly employs a servant to inspect every grain of rice that is served to him. Any with the most minor of flaws is discarded.

[the_tyrant]

http://www.cracked.com/funny-1350-north-korea/
http://www.cracked.com/article_19329_the-5-craziest-childrens-cartoons-from-north-korea.html
http://www.cracked.com/funny-6950-korea/
:haha:
RIP:salute:

[nikimcbee]

I will, however, miss one of my favourite blogs now... :cry:

http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/

NoKo Walmart:
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvulg4AG6c1qewv1lo1_500.jpg (http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/13881356101/1/tumblr_lvulg4AG6c1qewv1l)


Don't worry, we'll always have Lil Kim:
http://www.celebrity-sunglasses-finder.com/image-files/lil_kim.jpg

oops,

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt37/CHUD_69/kim-jong-il-puppet-team-america.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

Damn Quddafi and Kim Jong Ill? :wah: We lost my two favorite dictators this year. :doh:

Lets try to remember the good times:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf3N4slrJfY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf3N4slrJfY)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiLS-AlfO30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiLS-AlfO30)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZqB51tq4Lo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZqB51tq4Lo)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HK3Ttb43OI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HK3Ttb43OI)

[Reece]

Good grief!!:o Mixed emotions to be honest!:hmmm:

[Tribesman]

Kim Jiong Il

So he really was Ill.

[em2nought]

It's great when people that really deserve to die do so!!!! :up: Goodbye sorry piece of excrement!

[Takeda Shingen]

Bring on the televised hysterical sobbing.

[nikimcbee]

Good grief!!:o Mixed emotions to be honest!:hmmm:

It's okay to cry. It's part of the healing process.

[Aramike]

Let's reflect on the amazing achievements of Kim Jong Il

* Even before his birth, the future leader of North Korea was triggering miracles. Official biographers say his birth in a cabin on the slopes of Baekdu Mountain in February 1942 was foretold by a swallow and heralded by a double rainbow. When he was born, a new star appeared in the night sky.
* The first time he picked up a golf club, in 1994, Kim reportedly shot a 38-under par round on North Korea's only golf course, including 11 holes-in-one. He then decided to retire from the sport for ever.
* Kim has the ability to alter the weather simply through the power of thought.
* The fledgling leader was a genius as an infant, with official North Korean biographies stating that he had learned to walk at just 3 weeks and was talking at 8 weeks.
* As a junior high school pupil in Pyongyang, he corrected and chastised his teachers for their incorrect interpretations of history.
* Kim wrote six full operas in two years, "all of which are better than any in the history of music," according to his official biography.
* He designed the Tower of the Juche Idea, a 170-metre tower in the east bank of the River Taedong in central Pyongyang that is topped by a glowing red flame.
* Kim's official biography also claims that he wrote 1,500 books during his time at Kim Sung Il University, from where he graduated in 1964.
* According to the Korea Central News Agency, Kim is an expert on all aspects of the film industry and "improved the scripts and guided the production" of the movie "Diary of a Girl Student." His favourite movies are reportedly "Friday the 13th," "Rambo" and anything starring Elizabeth Taylor.
* Kim reportedly employs a servant to inspect every grain of rice that is served to him. Any with the most minor of flaws is discarded.This could be one of the funniest posts I've ever read.

[Reece]

It's okay to cry. It's part of the healing process.
I wouldn't go to that extreme,:doh: why, are you feeling sad/down?:hmmm:

[TLAM Strike]

I've heard some reports that the DEFCON might be raised to 4.

The ROK has raised their DEFCON from 4 to 3.

:hmmm:

[1480]

Well it always comes in threes.....who be next?

[darius359au]

Ok he's gone ,but now what happens in North Korea - does his son have the numbers and support that daddy tried to get for him ,or is there going to be a fight among the generals and party hacks who gets the job?,somehow i don't think there's gong to be much sleep in the ROK government and military while they watch what happens.

[TLAM Strike]

Well it always comes in threes.....who be next?
I figured the triple play was OBL, the Colonel, and the Dear Leader. If not its going to be Bashar al-Assad.

[CCIP]

I figured the triple play was OBL, the Colonel, and the Dear Leader. If not its going to be Bashar al-Assad.

I'd personally bet on Mugabe.

We also have retired leaders like Mubarak and Castro who could, in theory, croak any day.

Assad's in pretty good health at least.

[1480]

I figured the triple play was OBL, the Colonel, and the Dear Leader. If not its going to be Bashar al-Assad.


We may have to go to the judges on that one....I'll give you B a A though. :up:

[Torplexed]

A bad year for bad guys. :O:

CNN Tweeted that the official statement was that.... "He died of a heart attack brought on by mental and physical fatigue."

Yes, it must be exhausting watching your half-starved peons exercising and milling about at the openings of factories that never work and hotels that never get a visitor.

[TarJak]

Makes this even more poigniant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYnL5oUePM8

[TLAM Strike]

Assad's in pretty good health at least.
This can change one's health quite fast...
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/743/762x39fmj2.jpg
Last news report I saw had brigades of troops defecting to the opposition.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Sad day for humankind...

[Betonov]

Time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell

[Skybird]

They say one should not speak bad of dead people, since - so the implication - becoming dead cleans you of all your sins and misdeeds. But I never subscribed to this nonsense, so:

B.I.H., Drecksstück.

The whole ratpack of this family has so unbelievably stupid, brutal faces and eyes, anyone ever noticed? Family breeding, maybe?

[CaptainHaplo]

I won't speak spitefully of a human dead and gone.

May his soul find its just reward in the hands of the Creator.

Its important to remember that whether any of us approve of his actions - Jesus loved him. I have no doubt that Jesus didn't approve of him any more than we do/did - but his soul will stand before the Lord and answer for the actions of his life - just as we all will.

For us humans, that may not seem like enough - but if its enough for my God, then its enough for me - however the Lord sees fit to judge.

[Penguin]

:Kaleun_Party:
well, at least one tyrant less in the world.

It's said that his son, Kim Jong Un will be his successor, glad that we have to memorize only one new syllable - the rest of the name stays the same...

While his son might be a little more educated, I doubt we'll see any big reforms. It's not only one person but a whole family clan which holds the power in NK and they have no reason to give up their privileges.
The only hope for a change would be an uprising of the people which would only be successfull if they had parts of the army on their side, so I don't put my hopes up too high.

[Skybird]

Its important to remember that whether any of us approve of his actions - Jesus loved him. I have no doubt that Jesus didn't approve of him any more than we do/did - but his soul will stand before the Lord and answer for the actions of his life - just as we all will.



Shall we have another go at this haughty generalisation here? Shall we? Shall we...? :Kaleun_Salivating: Hitchens may be dead, but there still is Condell and me! :haha:

[kranz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tieKL_5b2Io
I would like to see the "behind the scenes".

[Oberon]

:hmmm:

Well...can't say he will be missed. Here's hoping for an uneventful transition to Jong-un.

[HunterICX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tieKL_5b2Io
I would like to see the "behind the scenes".

Guess we have a candidate for the Razzie Award for Worst Dramatic Screenplay.

HunterICX

[Betonov]

Shall we have another go at this haughty generalisation here? Shall we? Shall we...? :Kaleun_Salivating: Hitchens may be dead, but there still is Condell and me! :haha:

Now now, don't start another thread I'd have to derail with food :O:

Plus, you can't reason with religous people. If you could there would be no religius people.

[Penguin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tieKL_5b2Io
I would like to see the "behind the scenes".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4RvlV_tR0

I know at least one family living in Germany who will certainly get the good Whisky out of their cabinet and celebrate :()1:

[Jimbuna]

Well, let us hope his son is a good-un and not a bad-un.

[Biggles]

Well, let us hope his son is a good-un and not a bad-un.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1801096-badum_tish_super.jpg

Let us hope that this will mean a change for the positive in some way...though that is not very likely.

[Dread Knot]

"I can't believe it," a party member named as Kang Tae-Ho was quoted as saying. "How can he go like this? What are we supposed to do?"

Nation of freaking robots. :nope:

[Rilder]

Well, let us hope his son is a good-un and not a bad-un.

Korea is definitely in for some changes, whether they are for good or for Jong-Ill is a different matter.

[Herr-Berbunch]

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2867/kjune.jpg
Hmmm, not sure if really boss now, or just horrible trick by family.

[soopaman2]

My concerns is how Russia and China court them.

The only thing saving them from a pasting all these years was those 2 protecting it.

You think he will play nice, maintain the status quo, as its overlords in Asia want. Or escalate the situation in an attempt to "show" how strong he is?

Or will he bring prosperity to his people?:har::har::har:

I laugh, but it it what I wish for. The North Koreans did nothing wrong by being born there, and deserve better than this dynasty.

[Biggles]

Apparently the North Koreans have launched some missiles today, for testing...both sides seem to be rather edgy atm, any spark will lit the fire...

[mookiemookie]

Aww. No more beach parties. :cry:

http://i.imgur.com/gcW4W.gif

[Penguin]

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2867/kjune.jpg
Hmmm, not sure if really boss now, or just horrible trick by family.

he really reminds me of somebody.... :hmmm:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2792/oddjob20goldfinger20s11.jpg

[Herr-Berbunch]

he really reminds me of somebody.... :hmmm:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2792/oddjob20goldfinger20s11.jpg

McBee? :hmmm:

[mookiemookie]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/11/30/6047fccc-c510-4002-b4ed-62deeb2017b1.jpg

[Ducimus]

The Korean Penninsula is about to become VERY interesting. The only thing i'm not sure about is "how soon" and "how long".

The thing is, one of three things is going to happen (at least in my opinion):

a.) Political instrife and the regieme falls apart and the DPRK government crumbles. (I think this is the least likely scenario)

b.) On of Jong-Il's boys takes charge, and will be compelled to establish his authority. This means, more brinksmanship, more sabre rattleing, and a time period of, "OMG we might resume the war!one1111" (most likely scenario as this happened when Jong-Il took charge).

c.) One of Jong-Il's boys takes charge, and surprises the hell out of everyone by not engaging in the usual brinksmanship. (It could happen I suppose)


So, if my understanding is correct, ill guess we'll see which of the three happens.

[mookiemookie]

"I Was Kim Jong Il's Cook -True stories from the Dear Leader's onetime chef"

Interesting short read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/issues/2004/01/fujimoto.htm

[Jimbuna]

I'm thinking he'll do as China tells him and not escalate anything into a crisis.

[Oberon]

I'm thinking he'll do as China tells him and not escalate anything into a crisis.

I'm in agreement, Jong-un is said to be weaker and easier to manipulate than his father (who in turn was weaker than his father) so it's likely he'll toe the line of the PRC for the moment...unless one of his elite generals gets to him first...but to be honest, it is in the DPRK elites best interests to maintain the status quo and a war with the ROK will destroy that status quo completely and utterly.

I wouldn't put it pass them to do some aggressive things like shoot at the Christmas trees or shoot some fishing vessels...but war...very unlikely.

[nikimcbee]

McBee? :hmmm:

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/north%20korean%20soldier.jpg
You! Herr-Berr funny guy!


http://nkleadershipwatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/aen20111219005751315_01_i.jpg?w=500&h=376 (http://nkleadershipwatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/aen20111219005751315_01_i.jpg)

Today, in North Korea's got tarent, we find new comedian at the subsimz.

The people's Comedian:
Herr-Berr
http://www.funbumperstickers.com/images/care_bears_cheer.gif


http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/201635/slide_201635_554321_small.jpg

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/north%20korean%20soldier.jpg
You! Herr-Berr funny guy!


http://nkleadershipwatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/aen20111219005751315_01_i.jpg?w=500&h=376 (http://nkleadershipwatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/aen20111219005751315_01_i.jpg)

Today, in North Korea's got tarent, we find new comedian at the subsimz.

The people's Comedian:
Herr-Berr
http://www.funbumperstickers.com/images/care_bears_cheer.gif


http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/201635/slide_201635_554321_small.jpgWhat a discreet response. :D

[Buddahaid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tieKL_5b2Io
I would like to see the "behind the scenes".

They are all crying because they know the son will be worse. Official wailing is a cultural thing and doesn't reflect emotions for wailers always.

[CCIP]

Actually I'm not sure about that. If you look at the people in that video, they're relatively well dressed and outside what by North Korean standards is good residential area. Something tells me they're no 'average Koreans' and are probably pretty close to the top of the North Korean society. In that case, they may well be genuinely upset to see their benefactor go.

[joegrundman]

i read this interesting article on "flattery inflation" and the rise of personality cults.

http://abandonedfootnotes.blogspot.com/2011/12/flattery-inflation.html

gives much to think about, and is highly appropriate for looking at North Korea

[Herr-Berbunch]

@Niki - I only posted that as I remember a recent thread that included you looking like (or being?) Oddjob. :D

That sir, is my defence. And a damn good-un (him again) too. :yep:


And that, McOddjob, is a CARE Bear, not a Herr-Berr. Attached is a Hair-Bear recognition guide, and it's a special one just for you - you can colo(u)r it in (ask a grown up to help you stay in the lines).

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/814/2490HAIR.JPG

:O:

[nikimcbee]

@Niki - I only posted that as I remember a recent thread that included you looking like (or being?) Oddjob. :D

That sir, is my defence. And a damn good-un (him again) too. :yep:


And that, McOddjob, is a CARE Bear, not a Herr-Berr. Attached is a Hair-Bear recognition guide, and it's a special one just for you - you can colo(u)r it in (ask a grown up to help you stay in the lines).

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/814/2490HAIR.JPG

:O:

:har::yeah: Can I eat the crayons?

[Jimbuna]

So, Kim-Jong-il has died.

There goes the end of his Korea.

[mookiemookie]

http://i.imgur.com/Ks04y.jpg

[soopaman2]

The Korean Penninsula is about to become VERY interesting. The only thing i'm not sure about is "how soon" and "how long".

The thing is, one of three things is going to happen (at least in my opinion):

a.) Political instrife and the regieme falls apart and the DPRK government crumbles. (I think this is the least likely scenario)

b.) On of Jong-Il's boys takes charge, and will be compelled to establish his authority. This means, more brinksmanship, more sabre rattleing, and a time period of, "OMG we might resume the war!one1111" (most likely scenario as this happened when Jong-Il took charge).

c.) One of Jong-Il's boys takes charge, and surprises the hell out of everyone by not engaging in the usual brinksmanship. (It could happen I suppose)


So, if my understanding is correct, ill guess we'll see which of the three happens.


A: Not likely, the fear of the people and size of the military makes this unlikely.

B: Yes, we will endear ourselves to China, by poking at America, then shutting up and letting China and Russia bail us out in the UN, just like before, but agression will be stepped up as an example.

c: The peaceful sort would be rebuked in private by China and turned promptly into your scenario "b" or be overthrown by China itself.


my logic tells me it will be choice B. He will try to show his power by ticking off most the UN nations besides its lapdog protectors Russia and China. Something also twinges in my senses that those nations tire of this charade.

Great synopsis.:salute:

[Factor]

Lets hope Kim Jong Un is not the nut job that his father was but like they say, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

That happens alot here in America....we have nut jobs and they have little nut jobs that grow up to be big nut jobs.

Hopefully this son is his own man and has some sort of intelligence to move his nation into the 21st century and try to get along with everyone.

[Randomizer]

Good riddance but...

My son lives in the RoK with his Korean wife so I am watching this very closely and am more than a bit concerned.

That said, one of the good things about seeing Qadaffi impaled by his own people is the message that it sends to the totalitarian leaders of the world. You can bet that the PRC will pull every stop to keep the DPRK status quo but should the Tubby Leader (who followed the Dear Leader who followed the Great Leader) try and move south to consolidate his regime, they might be a bit less inclined to offer a blank cheque than in the past. This might lead to Kim Jong Un concentrate on keeping his boots stamping on the faces (in Orwell's famous phrase) of his own people rather than trying some grand act of unification.

War is bad for business and right now, for the PRC, business is reasonably good but there is some sand in their economic machine waiting to cause damage. Internationalizing the DPRK's internal power struggles would only serve to hit China's bubbling economy where it would hurt most.

I imagine that Tubby Leader might try some brinkmanship with the RoK but anecdotally from my young-fellow anyway, the South Korean press and people are mighty sick of the North's aggression in spite of the DPRK nukes and the sinking of the corvette Cheonan served as something of a tipping point. Expect the RoK to respond with firepower at the next North Korean outrage.

Then, things get interesting.

[soopaman2]

Good riddance but...

My son lives in the RoK with his Korean wife so I am watching this very closely and am more than a bit concerned.

That said, one of the good things about seeing Qadaffi impaled by his own people is the message that it sends to the totalitarian leaders of the world. You can bet that the PRC will pull every stop to keep the DPRK status quo but should the Tubby Leader (who followed the Dear Leader who followed the Great Leader) try and move south to consolidate his regime, they might be a bit less inclined to offer a blank cheque than in the past. This might lead to Kim Jong Un concentrate on keeping his boots stamping on the faces (in Orwell's famous phrase) of his own people rather than trying some grand act of unification.

War is bad for business and right now, for the PRC, business is reasonably good but there is some sand in their economic machine waiting to cause damage. Internationalizing the DPRK's internal power struggles would only serve to hit China's bubbling economy where it would hurt most.

I imagine that Tubby Leader might try some brinkmanship with the RoK but anecdotally from my young-fellow anyway, the South Korean press and people are mighty sick of the North's aggression in spite of the DPRK nukes and the sinking of the corvette Cheonan served as something of a tipping point. Expect the RoK to respond with firepower at the next North Korean outrage.

Then, things get interesting.

My best wishes to your son. Alot of American boys out there in range of artillery. None of them (or us at home) need it 60 years after the war....

I believe this boils down to China. They are the the puppetmaster. Without them, and to a lesser extent Russia, Both countries seem to love Iran and North Korea, funny, huh?
North Korea would have fell to the south (thanks to America directly and indirectly..sorry, it is what is is)

I hope he is more of a compromise and reconcile type, than a purse your lips, and threaten for international aid like his father.

I may as well keep my eyes peeled for Superman.

[Oberon]

Good riddance but...

My son lives in the RoK with his Korean wife so I am watching this very closely and am more than a bit concerned.



They near the border?

I don't think anything will come of this, like you say, war is bad for business and bad for the elite.

If there's another massive harvest failure which begins to affect even the elite...then there might be a problem...but so long as they can keep the military fed and the elite family fed then there'll be no war with the ROK.

[soopaman2]

They near the border?

I don't think anything will come of this, like you say, war is bad for business and bad for the elite.

If there's another massive harvest failure which begins to affect even the elite...then there might be a problem...but so long as they can keep the military fed and the elite family fed then there'll be no war with the ROK.


Now my worry is, if none of those things happen, and the doo-doo hits the fan. Things escalate..

America will jump in. And IMHO it would be a righteous defense as S. Korea will ask us for help.

China will hop in as well, just like in the 50s. Russia will at the minimum supply arms, and at the max jump in too.

Worst case scenario, but very plausable.

It only took the assassination of a minor leader to spark WW1...This would be our third try at world wars, except we all got nukes.

[CCIP]

Honestly, I think you're overestimating how much Russia and China care. In my estimation, China cares a little bit, in part because they've always been concerned about Korean migration, in part because of the ideological parallels. Russia just knows that North Korea doesn't have many other partners and are happy to do business with them for lack of other choice. However given how tiny that business is, they honestly would jump ship instantly at any sign of trouble, and in fact more probably be positioned against North Korea in case of war.

Bottom line is, the neighbours don't really care. In fact this has been observed consistently in their relationship over the last few years, especially with China. The North Korean leadership has really fallen out of grace with them and is increasingly becoming an embarassing drag.

[soopaman2]

Mr. CCIP. Not so much as over stating, but a paranoia based on events.

Both seem to invite a showdown, and proxy wars are suitable.

Except only Koreans and Americans will die in this, and the main instigators will strut about like peacocks.

Pardon my distrust for 2 nations who have broken the idea of a unified effort the UN was supposed to represent.

You know, preventing tyranny, Yet we ignore China nasty, vile treatments of dissenters. Go to China and google or baidu Tiennamen square, see what you get...Then google the same in another country.

At least here in America, the least any OWS protester got was some pepper spray, and a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge. I wonder what you get over there in those two meadows of heaven for large scale protests?

[Highbury]

the Tubby Leader (who followed the Dear Leader who followed the Great Leader)

"North Korean leader's son is 'Brilliant Comrade'"

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/06/13/north-korean-leader039s-son-039brilliant-comrade039.html

:roll:

[CCIP]

Great news comrades! Looks like my favourite blog has a worthy successor after all!

http://kimjongunlookingatthings.tumblr.com/

:DL

[Skybird]

That bastard makes headlines on page one the second day now, even when already being dead. Why are the media giving him this monumental platform as if he meant anything to mankind? And when the funeral is, bet they again will reserve page 1's newsstory for that oh so important stuff.

[antikristuseke]

Something I stumbled upon in reddit
Upvote to petition Chicago to change its name to Kim Jong, IL

[Rilder]

Something I stumbled upon in reddit

Only if we can change Cheyenne to: Oh God(s), Wy :rotfl2:

[Herr-Berbunch]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7083/mcbeehas.jpg

[Randomizer]

@Soopaman2 and Oberon, thanks for your interest. He teaches at a small university in Iksan, near the west coast and about half-way down from the DMZ.

While I do not think that anything will happen either, the potential is certainly there and the PRC is probably more inclined to maintain the status quo than some give credit for. Besides Kim Jong Un has too many things that still need looking at...

The DPRK acts as a buffer state so a united and democratic RoK extending to the Yalu River points to industrial and resource rich Manchuria like a shotgun barrel. Particularly since one could anticipate a sizable US military presence to remain even in the event of even a peaceful reunification with the RoK. China is unlikely to forget that Korea provided the springboard for the Japanese invasions of 1904 and 1931.

[STEED]

One swine out another swine in.

[Jimbuna]

Good news: Kim's dead.

Bad news: It's not one of the Kardashians.

[Randomizer]

Good news: Kim's dead.

Bad news: It's not one of the Kardashians.
Not fair, you expended this one in the Joke thread. The fact that it might be true is irrelevant...

[Sailor Steve]

Not fair, you expended this one in the Joke thread. The fact that it might be true is irrelevant...
The truth can never be restated enough, especially if it's funny.

[Jimbuna]

Not fair, you expended this one in the Joke thread. The fact that it might be true is irrelevant...

Okay then...here's a few not yet posted :O:

Kim Jong-un promises a new clear future for North Korea.

Oops, spelt nuclear wrong.
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The media are reporting Kim Jong Il died of fatigue. You'd be tired too if you'd written 'Hamlet', cured polio, and won the Tour De France 19 times.
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RIP Kim Jong Il. No doubt one of the most legendary Asians of a generation, seconded only by the small handful who have conquered Takeshi's Castle.
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Experts are predicting a global shortage of puppies this Christmas after the North Korean government confirmed the catering requirements for Kim Jong Il's funeral.
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Gaddafi, Bin Laden and Kim Jong Il have all died this year.

Maybe Team America does exist...

[TLAM Strike]

Continuing with the Jokes...

Anyone else smell BBQ? Oooops its just Kim Jong Il...

Everyone evil soul gets their own private hell for all eternity: Kim Jong Il will be forced to live in North Korea.

Edit: got another one...

A North Korean General is touring the DMZ. He asks the commander of an armored brigade why are all his tanks leaking oil?

The commander replies: They are weeping for the Dear Leader.

[mapuc]

What if and it's a big what if
The new leader, is North Korea's gorbachev

One can only hope(it's christmas after all)

Markus

[Betonov]

What if and it's a big what if
The new leader, is North Korea's gorbachev

One can only hope(it's christmas after all)

Markus

Doubt it

Gorbachev, serius politicians face with receding hair due to the stress of politicks

http://www.notablebiographies.com/images/uewb_05_img0308.jpg


Kim Shung Jung whater Un, spoiled fat brat wit a wannabe tough look

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2867/kjune.jpg

[mapuc]

Have just red an article in a danish newspaper, The intelligens is very uncertain, 'cause they do not know where they have this new leader.

It also said, that he probably was responsible for the torpedo assault on a South koreans vessel.

Markus

[TLAM Strike]

What if and it's a big what if
The new leader, is North Korea's gorbachev

Seriously doubt it. Gorbachev actually worked to get where he was. He served in lots of posts and improved the living conditions of those he was in charge of.

All Kim Jong Un seems to have accomplished is being made a General by Daddy.

In the end I think KJU will just be a figurehead for some other leader, perhaps some of their top military commanders.

[Blood_splat]

His Uncle is running the show.

[mapuc]

Seriously doubt it. Gorbachev actually worked to get where he was. He served in lots of posts and improved the living conditions of those he was in charge of.

All Kim Jong Un seems to have accomplished is being made a General by Daddy.

In the end I think KJU will just be a figurehead for some other leader, perhaps some of their top military commanders.

I'm not an expert on Korea. I follow the news on BBC World News and our own news on what they have to say about it.

I found that they(commentator) have almost one common view

Await and see.

Markus

[mookiemookie]

I shall call him.....Mini-Un

http://i.imgur.com/7j6No.jpg

[nikimcbee]

@Mookie
:har::har::yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Nice one Mark :DL

[Randomizer]

Is it my imagination or is that finger headed straight for his left nostril?

[August]

Is it my imagination or is that finger headed straight for his left nostril?

Nope, it just left the nostril and is headed for the mouth...

[soopaman2]

Any bets on when Mini-Me, starts his sabre rattling, then pretending to back down for foreign aid, just like daddy? Daddy Manipulated the UN thanks to China, I suppose this guy has daddys playbook.

I give it a week before the little guy starts up.

Pardon my disgust.
I had almost, a sliver, tiny, miniscule amount of respect for Jong Il. Regardless of his methods, he had a certain charisma that made his people love him. People get the government they deserve.

Will sonny be able to endear the people to him without revolt?

Maybe America and N Korea can finally sign the peace treaty for the Korean war, is my ultimate hope.

It could even lead to a peaceful unification of Korea. Who could stand on their own in the world, and not need the US or China to sow its fates.

I'll go back to hugging trees, and smelling flowers now.:O:

[TarJak]

I suspect Junior Kim will be a puppet of the NK military for some time to come, unless he has his father's guile and forcefulness.

[Platapus]

There will be a power struggle between KJI's uncle and his brother-in-law.

KJU will be a figure head.

[Jimbuna]

Whichever way it goes it will be the NK people who continue to suffer and struggle.

[August]

Whichever way it goes it will be the NK people who continue to suffer and struggle.


That's the really sad part of all this.

[mapuc]

Let's hope they find oil and lot's of it.

Then we will come and rescue the people from this dictatorship


Markus

[August]

Let's hope they find oil and lot's of it.

Then we will come and rescue the people from this dictatorship


Markus


Who is "we"? AFAIK Denmark has never rescued anyone from anything...

[TLAM Strike]

AFAIK Denmark has never rescued anyone from anything...

Operation Bøllebank.

The Danes have also been involved in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

[Penguin]

Who is "we"? AFAIK Denmark has never rescued anyone from anything...

:roll:
Only the second highest number of soldiers per capita in Afghanistan after GB, also the second largest contribution to the civilian rebuilding per capita... http://www.denmark.dk/en/menu/Business-Lounge/Focus-Denmark/Articles/DenmarkAtTheFrontLineInAfghanistan.htm

A good documentation about the Danes in Afghanistan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo_%28film%29

[Oberon]

Let us not also forget:

Alvsborg
The Kalmar war
Lister Dyb
Koldberg Heide
Operation Bollebank
Operation Amanda
Operation Enduring Freedom
Invasion of Iraq
Libyan interdiction

In fact, Danish sortees account for 17% of all military targets in Libya, and between them and Norway they have been the most efficient in terms of kills per flight ratio.

Something to think about. We in England have long since learnt never...Ever to underestimate Scandinavia... :03:

[mookiemookie]

http://i.imgur.com/0Oaoh.jpg

[Tribesman]

Let us not also forget:
Given the topic perhaps August needs to be informed that they were in Korea too for that little "police action".

[August]

Let us not also forget:

Alvsborg
The Kalmar war
Lister Dyb
Koldberg Heide
Operation Bollebank
Operation Amanda
Operation Enduring Freedom
Invasion of Iraq
Libyan interdiction

In fact, Danish sortees account for 17% of all military targets in Libya, and between them and Norway they have been the most efficient in terms of kills per flight ratio.

Something to think about. We in England have long since learnt never...Ever to underestimate Scandinavia... :03:

Bah. Vikings are old history. Next you're going to tell me you English are still scared of the Saxons! :DL

In any case according to Mapuc they were only in those places because of oil, not to actually save anyone so my question still stands.

[Schroeder]

Bah. Vikings are old history. Next you're going to tell me you English are still scared of the Saxons! :DL

Only when they are flying 109s.:O:

[Oberon]

Bah. Vikings are old history. Next you're going to tell me you English are still scared of the Saxons! :DL

In any case according to Mapuc they were only in those places because of oil, not to actually save anyone so my question still stands.

You mean that's not the reason we go into these places? :doh:

Oh...well...that's embarrassing... :O:

You guys should be scared of the Vikings too, a fair few of you are our descendents after all, and rumour has it the Vikings even made it across to the US at one point. :P

[1480]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/421768/thumbs/r-CHAZ-BONO-large570.jpg

Separated at Birth???

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRSErxRRBHzSGOKZtsXohfGoxzrEphdE luettrMMB2hBlgQrtkYg4eWehie

[Oberon]

Only when they are flying 109s.:O:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_femhrxbNtS0/TN4DbjmRqRI/AAAAAAAAIgo/ovc103--XSI/s400/winston_churchill_two_finger.jpg

[August]

You mean that's not the reason we go into these places? :doh:

You'll have to talk to Mapuc as he seems to think he knows the real reason.

All I know is i'm still waiting for my barrel of oil for Desert Storm.

[Boeing707]

It will be interesting to see what his son does.

[Oberon]

All I know is i'm still waiting for my barrel of oil for Desert Storm.

It was delivered to Louisiana last year...didn't you collect it?

[August]

It was delivered to Louisiana last year...didn't you collect it?

Ten years late and delivered to the wrong address. No wonder you guys lost your empire! :nope: :DL

[Oberon]

Ten years late and delivered to the wrong address. No wonder you guys lost your empire! :nope: :DL

:haha: :yeah:

[Karle94]

You guys should be scared of the Vikings too, a fair few of you are our descendents after all, and rumour has it the Vikings even made it across to the US at one point. :P

Yep, the Viking known as Leiv Erikson and his crew stayed in Newfoundland and some parts of Canada and US for a few months. There are rumors of them going as far as the Hudson river. Leiv was the first man from Europe to reach North America. Columbus did`t really reach North America, he ended up in Cuba, witch is considdered as a part of South America. This was in late 1400`s. Leiv and his expedition was in late 900`s. I am one of the unlucky ones. I have no Viking ancestors. My ancestors were Krauts if you`re American, or Fritz if you`re British.

[August]

They say that this tower, located in Newport Rhode Island, may have been built by, if not Vikings, then some other group of pre-Columbus European visitors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Tower_%28Rhode_Island%29

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/DSCN3887_newporttower_e.jpg/300px-DSCN3887_newporttower_e.jpg

[Jimbuna]

Only when they are flying 109s.:O:

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2469/schmidti.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/schmidti.jpg/)

:DL:03:

[Sailor Steve]

They say that this tower, located in Newport Rhode Island, may have been built by, if not Vikings, then some other group of pre-Columbus European visitors.
"They" also claim Viking remains in the midwest. There is much debate, but the best sources I've seen indicate the likelihood is that Ericsson never got south of Newfoundland.

From the article you linked:
In 1992, radiocarbon dating tests of the tower's mortar were undertaken by a team of researchers from Denmark and Finland. The results suggest a probable date of construction between 1635 and 1698.

[August]

"They" also claim Viking remains in the midwest. There is much debate, but the best sources I've seen indicate the likelihood is that Ericsson never got south of Newfoundland.

Well pre-columbian visits to north America don't have to have been made by Leif Ericsson but I agree with you that the Newport tower was likely made sometime in the 1600's.

[Schroeder]

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2469/schmidti.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/schmidti.jpg/)

:DL:03:
Ah, the beer from the German discounter.:O:

[Takeda Shingen]

On topic, the dog and pony show is about to begin:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-27/north-korea-may-fete-touching-drama-for-kim-funeral-ushering-power-shift.html

[Reece]

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/sleep/yawn.gif

[Type941]

Little piggy eyes, massive double chin, short - a funny f.cker or a mean immature pr.ck who's been probably bullied when small, and is a nobody on its own. Probably pulled off wings from insects when small. I think we all know he's not a funny fcker, just look at his face.

Give it a rest with your hopes for a better NKorea or Gorbachev (who was a very smart politician). This is a puppet and to self assure everyone he's not, he'll do stupid things like sink another warship etc. He's like Medvedev in Russia but worse. A puppet who'll do stupid things to self assert himself. Medvedev had Georgia war and now tries to talk tough to nATO (thanksfully they ignore it). Watch this guy. Only hope China tells him not to do too stupid things but China never has Wests interest in mind so all in all, a sh.tty thing the old guy died (who was like the biggest America fan inside).

[Sailor Steve]

Type941, please read the forum rules on language and change your post to match Subsim's 'family-friendly' policy.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item_language

[Jimbuna]

Hasn't been online since you posted :hmmm:

[Platapus]

Hasn't been online since you posted :hmmm:

If he makes that type of posting, I don't think many would miss him.


Really, poking fun of how a foreign leader looks. Now there's deep analysis for you.