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Up to two million public sector workers are staging a strike over pensions in what is set to be the biggest walkout for a generation.Schools, hospitals, airports, ports and government offices will be among sites disrupted, as more than 1,000 demonstrations are due across the UK.It would "achieve nothing", Downing Street said, calling for more talks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15953806
Note: 30 November 2011 Last updated at 02:50 GMT
Herr-Berbunch
11-30-11, 03:54 AM
People just proving they can lose pay for a day. I can't and wouldn't even if I could. :nope:
Just what the economy needs, at least with Somali pirates you can try to fight back from being held to ransom.
I know there'll be a few here who disagree and that people have a right to strike but at least wait for a total breakdown in talks before you call it.
Tribesman
11-30-11, 04:13 AM
at least wait for a total breakdown in talks before you call it.
Isn't the main problem with that idea that there was a refusal to talk at all until the strike was declared.
Same with the recent BA strike, they refused to talk until the strike went ahead. Same with the rail workers , they refused to talk until the strike had been blocked and blocked and blocked until the judges said management was playing silly games in the courts and the strike was OK, then the strike was on and management decided maybe they would talk.
Its OK for you to say wait for a breakdown in talks, but again and again it is a flat out refusal to talk to the workers/unions that is causing the strikes in the first place.
Jimbuna
11-30-11, 05:29 AM
Isn't the main problem with that idea that there was a refusal to talk at all until the strike was declared.
Same with the recent BA strike, they refused to talk until the strike went ahead. Same with the rail workers , they refused to talk until the strike had been blocked and blocked and blocked until the judges said management was playing silly games in the courts and the strike was OK, then the strike was on and management decided maybe they would talk.
Its OK for you to say wait for a breakdown in talks, but again and again it is a flat out refusal to talk to the workers/unions that is causing the strikes in the first place.
Rgr that....Tory arrogance and a refusal to listen to the warnings from their coalition partners.
I can't see Cameron shifting from his entrenched position...in fact, I can see changes coming in the right to strike legislation that will be detrimental to the unions and the working population.
Jimbuna
11-30-11, 09:00 AM
Prime Minister David Cameron described the strike as a "damp squib".
Now there's a big suprise :DL
looking at the list of closures in the article I would suggest your wrong David old chap.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15953806
Takeda Shingen
11-30-11, 09:06 AM
Take the A-train.
Well, if they want to go Harlem, yes, it is the fastest way.
mookiemookie
11-30-11, 09:24 AM
Well, if they want to go Harlem, yes, it is the fastest way.
If you miss it, you won't end up in Sugar Hill way up in Harlem.
If you miss it, you won't end up in Sugar Hill way up in Harlem.
Sorry, A-train has been cancelled due to leaves on the line.
I can sympathise with Herr B on this, being a private sector worker, but I do support the right of people to take industrial action against what is an increasingly unpopular government which refuses to shift from its position.
The trouble is, at the end of the day, the strikes won't achieve anything but further the mistrust and hatred between public and private sector workers, so whilst they are divided, the government can do what it wants (and will) and it will spin the strike into some form of massive attack on the people by stating that 'x amount of people died because of the strike' or 'y amount of people had to take time off work and lose money because of the strike' and the media will lap it up and dish it out, and the bankers will laugh as the public fight amongst each other and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
There is no room for the voice of the public in politics today. We just have to obey what the rich people tell us to obey.
Man I sound left wing today...I need a drink... :haha:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15953806
Note: Update record,30 November 2011 Last updated at 16:15 GMT
Jimbuna
11-30-11, 04:49 PM
Simon Walker, of the Institute of Directors, told the BBC News Channel the strike was doing "significant damage" to the economy.
"If you're damaging the productive capacity of this country you're really doing huge damage to the fabric of the economy and that will last a long time and impact on all of us," he said.
Fancy comparing then swapping penxions Simon?
Thought not :nope:
You do not suffer,use your private jet!
Jimbuna
11-30-11, 07:00 PM
Context? :hmmm:
You're not affected to a larger extent....maybe a little depending on how long the strike will,right or wrong....
Jimbuna
11-30-11, 07:43 PM
Not affected at all as far as I can tell...it would take a statutory act to make any changes to my current pension provision and there has been no mention of any retrospective changes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15953806
Note: Update record,1 December 2011 Last updated at 00:00 GMT
Jimbuna
12-01-11, 12:17 PM
You'll be getting a bill from the BBC soon....they must think your a rival news organisation :doh:
You'll be getting a bill from the BBC soon....they must think your a rival news organisation :doh: When my website is ready, then they will fail, :DL
Jimbuna
12-01-11, 12:20 PM
LOL :DL
gimpy117
12-01-11, 10:19 PM
Thank you England for doing what the US needs to be doing
Jimbuna
12-02-11, 08:50 AM
Another nail in the coffin of the British working class.
Pension switch ruled lawful by High Court
The government's public sector pensions policy has been given a major boost following a High Court ruling.
Trade unions had complained about how pensions are being protected against inflation, with the Consumer Prices Index (CPI) replacing the faster-rising Retail Prices Index (RPI).
The High Court has now ruled that the government's switch was lawful.
The decision affects the value of pension increases for millions of public sector pensioners.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15999970
The workers could always pull out of the pension schemes but that would mean a lower state pension to see them through retirement and the obvious future consequence that the government, seeing the decline in contributors and the ever increasing dependancy on the state pension passing future legislation to cut the state pension further.
One hell of a mess :nope:
Jimbuna
12-02-11, 01:39 PM
True that :yep:
I said it before and I shall say it again, one day strikes are a waste of time. They should all stay on strike and bring down the government.
Jimbuna
12-02-11, 04:03 PM
I said it before and I shall say it again, one day strikes are a waste of time. They should all stay on strike and bring down the government.
People simply can't afford to STEED....better the voters do it via the ballot box but that seldom happens either as we saw at the last election and others before it.
This country is spineless! You have to grasp the nettle even if it makes your hand bleed, the system is corrupt and must be removed.
‘All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’ (or words to that effect)
And that is what is happening.
Side note to the public sector, don't forget the MP's voted for a £40,000 a year pension back in 2001 and who was in power then? The Labour Party.
Labour are two face hypocrites, they say they are for the working man...lies.
And that makes them worst than the Conservatives as we all know where they stand.
As for the Liberals they sleep with anyone to get power.
Jimbuna
12-03-11, 08:36 AM
http://www.bananalogic.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cameron1.jpg
The invite to ours for xmas lunch still stands STEED
BossMark
12-03-11, 09:14 AM
I said it before and I shall say it again, one day strikes are a waste of time. They should all stay on strike and bring down the government.
Remember 84\85 coal miners strike we tried to bring bitch thatchers tories down, but there was know way was we going beat that evil cow when our own members let us down (Nottingham)
Remember 84\85 coal miners strike we tried to bring bitch thatchers tories down, but there was know way was we going beat that evil cow when our own members let us down (Nottingham)
She used the police to go in hard, using them as strike breakers.
The miners came the closes to bringing Thatcher down and I give them credit for trying and staying out as long as they did.
http://www.bananalogic.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cameron1.jpg
The invite to ours for xmas lunch still stands STEED
What a rose thorn that man is.
Jimbuna
12-03-11, 10:16 AM
Remember 84\85 coal miners strike we tried to bring bitch thatchers tories down, but there was know way was we going beat that evil cow when our own members let us down (Nottingham)
Yes, that strike tore families and communities apart :nope:
Jimbuna
12-03-11, 10:19 AM
What a rose thorn that man is.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/4/6/1270588190611/Lib-Dem-leader-Nick-Clegg-001.jpg
Forget Dave's invite...come round to mine STEED
BossMark
12-03-11, 11:23 AM
What a rose thorn that man is.
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/4/6/1270588190611/Lib-Dem-leader-Nick-Clegg-001.jpg
Forget Dave's invite...come round to mine STEED
http://www.bananalogic.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/cameron1.jpg
The invite to ours for xmas lunch still stands STEED
A choice of two evils :nope:
Jimbuna
12-03-11, 05:07 PM
Out of the frying pan and into the fire :DL
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15999234
Herr-Berbunch
12-05-11, 05:35 AM
:nope: I bet not one of those people who complained have actually watched the entire interview or they would have heard how he (for whatever reason ;)) actually sided on the side of the strikers and only said what he said to 'balance' the view, being on the impartial BBC.
Typical tragic left-wing knee-jerk bandwagon-jumping headless lemmings! Shame I can't express my other thoughts for them here. :D
Anybody who thinks for one moment that Jezza believes much that he says needs to be, err, well, shot in front of their families!
Jimbuna
12-05-11, 07:20 AM
:nope: I bet not one of those people who complained have actually watched the entire interview or they would have heard how he (for whatever reason ;)) actually sided on the side of the strikers and only said what he said to 'balance' the view, being on the impartial BBC.
Typical tragic left-wing knee-jerk bandwagon-jumping headless lemmings! Shame I can't express my other thoughts for them here. :D
Anybody who thinks for one moment that Jezza believes much that he says needs to be, err, well, shot in front of their families!
He was wrong in his comments and caught bang out of order on camera...he was at the function promoting a book so no accident in bringing attention to himself.
It is no wonder Cameron wasn't scathing of his comments seeing as they are personal friends.
Finally...I know an individual on another forum who is part of the production team of a certain programme and he assures me (insert name here) is one of the most arrogant people he and his colleagues have come across...so much so that on outside locations they have minders to keep the public at arms length.
Just to 'balance' things up :DL
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