Cameroon jails men over gay sex!

[Gerald]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15871386

Note: 24 November 2011 Last updated at 12:47 GMT

[Gerald]

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[CCIP]

For some reason I read that as "Cameron", not "Cameroon" :hmmm:

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[Gerald]

True, easily see at fault for the uninitiated,:up:

[1480]

Was surprised to see that the predominate religion practiced there is Christianity. Not saying they should be more enlightened but was surprised. Most of these anti-homosexual laws are rooted in the "secular premise" to combat the spread of HIV. Not saying right or wrong, their court their rules.

[CCIP]

I dunno about that. Like it or not, even when you look at the US (whether historically or currently), most anti-homosexual laws have a Christian religious basis. It's no secret that conservative Christianity is not kind to homosexuality.

And Africa especially is known for Christian extremism - just consider the LRA.

[Platapus]

Most of these anti-homosexual laws are rooted in the "secular premise" to combat the spread of HIV.

I would really like to see a citation backing that up. Anti-homosexual laws have been in force way before HIV was even known.

[BossMark]

For some reason I read that as "Cameron", not "Cameroon" :hmmm:

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These two should also be jailed anyway :yep:

[Jimbuna]

For some reason I read that as "Cameron", not "Cameroon" :hmmm:

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Me too :DL

[Sailor Steve]

Me too :DL
Me three.
:rotfl2:

[Jimbuna]

Well, that makes it...

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[kiwi_2005]

Well, that makes it...

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Three men practicing their bondage session:hmmm:

:O:

[Oberon]

Apparently there's also a man in Thailand facing 20 years imprison for supposedly send text messages to a senior government official which insulted the King of Thailand and his wife. The kicker? The man doesn't know how to send text messages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/24/world/asia/20-year-term-for-text-messages-against-thai-king-bhumibol.html

[Gerald]

:doh:

[1480]

I dunno about that. Like it or not, even when you look at the US (whether historically or currently), most anti-homosexual laws have a Christian religious basis. It's no secret that conservative Christianity is not kind to homosexuality.

And Africa especially is known for Christian extremism - just consider the LRA.

Lawmakers have indicated that they will pass the bill before year's end.
It has the blessing of many religious leaders -- Muslim and Christian -- in a country where a July poll found 95 percent opposed to legalizing homosexuality.
The Rev. Esau Omara, a senior church leader, said over the weekend that any lawmaker opposing the bill will pay for it during the next election, according to local newspaper reports.
And a leading Muslim cleric, Sheikh Ramathan Shaban Mubajje, has called for gays to be rounded up and banished to an island until they die.


Ease up on the bashing, seems both sides of the fence are equally to blame. Not only that, the government is only acquiescing to the wishes of the populace, unlike the politicians here who listen only to special interests.

Not saying it is right, morally or otherwise. Not saying I agree with it. Just calling it what it is.

There are plenty of Christian denominations that are not so, shall we say rabid in their tenants of the treatment of homosexuality.

There is no doubt that in Islam homosexuality is considered 'sinful'. Homosexuality as far as Islam is concerned is a profound mistake ( as are all sins if they are not intending to do wrong). Humans are not homosexuals by nature. People become homosexuals because of their environments.

"When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes."

"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to."

Quoted from the Hadith (The Hadith are collections of sayings attributed to Muhammad)

Now compare to this quote attributed to Jesus:

“Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’”

One states to kill them, the other states its not natural.

I'll be up with more later.

[CCIP]

The Old Testament, however, may not be so nice in this regard...

I'm not attacking the religion here - that would be silly, considering I'm Christian myself. But there is such a thing as Christian extremists out there in the world, especially in some places in Africa. And I certainly wouldn't underestimate their part in this. At the very least, it's nothing surprising that such groups would be at the forefront of anti-gay sentiment. AIDS is rarely a cause for gay-bashing in itself, and in Africa especially the vast majority of AIDS infections happen through heterosexual encounters. The disease is mostly just something that adds fuel to the fire, the source of which is mostly cultural and indeed religious.

[frau kaleun]

Well to be fair it's really no surprise that extreme fundamentalist versions of both Islam and Christianity would have an aggressive aversion to homosexuality. Surface differences aside, when it comes to attitudes about sex and gender they're both rooted in the same basic mindset. That's the deeper issue, fundamentalist religion just helps perpetuate and (in some cases) enforce it.

[Jimbuna]

Apparently there's also a man in Thailand facing 20 years imprison for supposedly send text messages to a senior government official which insulted the King of Thailand and his wife. The kicker? The man doesn't know how to send text messages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/24/world/asia/20-year-term-for-text-messages-against-thai-king-bhumibol.html

He'd of been better off looting in London earlier in the year.