View Full Version : German neo-Nazi terror cell linked to 10 murders
Penguin
11-14-11, 06:41 AM
Berlin (CNN) -- Two suspects believed to be members of a neo-Nazi terror cell involved in killing at least 10 people, mostly of Turkish and Greek origin, have been arrested, German prosecutors said.
In a video which they apparently planned to send to German media outlets, the alleged terrorists claim to have killed eight ethnic Turks, one ethnic Greek and a police officer from 2000 to 2007, prosecutors said.
The attacks occurred all over Germany and became known the "Doener Murder Series." Until the arrests, police had not thought they were committed by the same people.
The German magazine Der Spiegel reports that the right-wing extremists also claim in the video to be responsible for several bank robberies and a nail-bomb attack in Cologne in 2004, which hit a street with mostly Turkish and Kurdish residents.
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/14/world/europe/germany-arrest/
While the CNN link provides a quick overview, a very detailed and informative English article can be found here (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,797569,00.html) on the Spiegel page.
edit: damn, I can't change the headline, copied it from CNN, but find it a little too sensational and I don't like the word neo-Nazis, those guys are Nazis, you don't differ between neo-Commies and Commies either
(http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,797569,00.html)
Jimbuna
11-14-11, 06:53 AM
They would appear to be extremely dangerous (possibly an understatement).......better they are off the streets now and posing no further danger to society.
Skybird
11-14-11, 09:48 AM
Damn Nazi murderers, and like Breivik so "anti-helpful" to the purpose of confronting Muslim migrants over the roots of their ideology. Media already is spinning like crazy about how to equalise best the motivation for murder like this with critical attitudes to non-integrating foreigners and the problem of Islamic ideology. The Muslim communities in Germany and their spokesmen already had hey-days over the weekend, claiming a general German racism towards and blabla and you shall not criticise Islam etc and etc etc and blablabla and you know the song.
Breivik and these Nazi thugs are not represenatative for the arguments why Islam must be criticised and why freedom must be defended (I wonder how arbitrary murder should help in the defence of freedom?) , and they do not represent the right way how to confront Islam and refused integration. They all are/were murders only: blind, bloodthirsty and hatefilled. Emotionally upcharged, blinded by ideologic hysteria, and in a way (not meant as a marginalisation) helpless in their limited ability and options to communicate their minds.
The existence of Nazis and right-winged violence shall not blind us over the fact that there is a massive boom of left-winged violence and crime as well, and it shall not stop us to speak out against Islam and non-integrating migrants who think that multiculturalism means that we, the local owners of our homelands, have to adapt to their foreign values and worldviews.
An official study by the government has been published recently, showing that by just the known numbers there are at least three times as many enforced marriages amongst Muslims living in Germany (almost 4000 per year), than was assumed even by pessimists, and this is just the known numbers, gained from only those victims who were looking for help in their despair. The real numbers insiders say is multiple times as high. Then the issue of dishonourful daughter-killings. Certain migrant groups are overrepresented (up to several factors) in crime statistics as beign told by the police "streetforce" doing the work in the field (official statistics are forbidden since some years, to avoid getting numbers black on white in public integration debate). In the German metropoles, big family clans hiding behind their immunity given to them by being foreigners and being Muslim, run the major part of organised crime, with the law capitulating before them. Left-winged violence by anarchists and black blocks as well as squatters and sympathisers of chaos has multiplied over the past years, both in quality and quantity, and not only during street riots. Policemen get intentionally targetted, lurked into traps , and occasionally get tried to get killed. In Berlin, cars are burning every night, since over two years.
So now there was a trio or quartet rooting in the Nazi scene that committed ten murders (was it ten? I am not sure baiout the precise number). They are not the only murderers over here, unfortunately. What really is of interest is to what degree the German intelligence agencies had links to them to infiltrate the Nazi scene, and maybe stayed too passive in an attempt to not reveal their sources of information - the old dilemma of intel work: when to use info you get at the price of compromising your sources, and when to not use the info in order to protect your sources and hopefully get bigger fish later? If the suspicion of the BKA knowing more than it admits becomes more pressing, then this time something obviously went terribly wrong in the assessment process.
Tribesman
11-14-11, 10:43 AM
wow Sky takes a topic about some murdering scum and tries to turn it on its head, must be the protests and groups he likes which according to himself were full of those nazi people.
nice turn of phrase though, murdering scum are "anti helpful" for the cause.
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