Doctor turned serial killer in World War II Paris

[vienna]

http://news.yahoo.com/doctor-turned-serial-killer-ww2-paris-122102122.html

Found this rather interesting...

[Jimbuna]

Doctors always appear nice....more 'facts' would help.

[vienna]

Doctors always appear nice....


Not always...

Back in 2004, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital with the worst pain in the upper area of my chest I had ever felt in my life. When the tests and x-rays came back from the lab, my doctor, who was, indeed very nice) told me I had pancreatitis caused by gallstones (apparently, I had grown my own internal rock garden). He said an opertaion was needed quickly and it would take him about an hour and a half of surgery to complete. When I woke up from the surgery, my doctor told me there had been problems (including my blood presure nearly tanking) and the total surgery time had been just over three hours and required three surgeons. He introduced me o the other two doctors: one was nice enough, though he appeared a little bored or distracted; the other doctor, however, had a rather disturbing scowl on his face and probably the worst personality of anyone in the medical profeesion I had ever met. He made televisions "Dr. House" look like kindly "Dr. Marcus Welby". He decided he wanted to take a look at my incision and handled me so roughly that if I hadn't been weaked by the surgery and the pain medication, I would have popped him one. Fortunately, I only saw him once more in my near three weeks in the hospital and he did not physically touch me again.

So, not all doctors appear nice... :)

[Montray]

Articles about serial killers always creep me out, I feel just uneasy reading about them.

No doubt it is a fascinating subject however, how the human brain can function, even in a less than shall we say, optimized way in these cases.

The only thing I really have to add in this case, especially since it's a world war case, I always remember a quote from Schindler's list

" War always brings out the worst in people, never the good"
Or something on that line, not really much more I can add :P

[Jimbuna]

Not always...

Back in 2004, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital with the worst pain in the upper area of my chest I had ever felt in my life. When the tests and x-rays came back from the lab, my doctor, who was, indeed very nice) told me I had pancreatitis caused by gallstones (apparently, I had grown my own internal rock garden). He said an opertaion was needed quickly and it would take him about an hour and a half of surgery to complete. When I woke up from the surgery, my doctor told me there had been problems (including my blood presure nearly tanking) and the total surgery time had been just over three hours and required three surgeons. He introduced me o the other two doctors: one was nice enough, though he appeared a little bored or distracted; the other doctor, however, had a rather disturbing scowl on his face and probably the worst personality of anyone in the medical profeesion I had ever met. He made televisions "Dr. House" look like kindly "Dr. Marcus Welby". He decided he wanted to take a look at my incision and handled me so roughly that if I hadn't been weaked by the surgery and the pain medication, I would have popped him one. Fortunately, I only saw him once more in my near three weeks in the hospital and he did not physically touch me again.

So, not all doctors appear nice... :)

I'm sorry to learn of that but my experiences have been more favourable (in terms of doctors attitudes)...perhaps I've just been lucky :DL

[jumpy]

Did you hear the one about harold shipman, and why he topped himself?
Apparently he 'ran out of patience' :har:

[Jimbuna]

Harold Shipman's suicide note has been found. It reads - "I can't go on. I've run out of patience".

[vienna]

jimbuna wrote:

I'm sorry to learn of that but my experiences have been more favourable (in terms of doctors attitudes)...perhaps I've just been lucky :DL


With the exception of the one doctor I noted, all of my experiences with doctor's have been good at least. The docotor who I originally dealt with before my surgery was actually very pleasant and the only one of the three who continued to check on me during my stay in the hospital. I would have been out of the hospital a week earlier except a nurse made the mistake of placing the needle of my IV drip into the tissue of my arm instead of the vein. causing an edema that made my hands and feet swell up like ballons for several days. The good thing about it is I was moved to a much nicer room and recieved much better care...


Montray wrote:

Articles about serial killers always creep me out, I feel just uneasy reading about them.



Imagine how you would feel about seeing one face to face. Back in the late seventies, I came face to face with two men I later found out were the Hillside Stranglers, serial killers of young women in Los Angeles. I didn't know their identity until after they were arrested and I recognized one of them in a news report. It still bothers me since there were reports of their activities and crimes at the time I saw them and, given the situation in which I met them, I could have put two and two together and turned them in and stopped their killing spree. i didn't and now I often wish I had been able to do so...

[Montray]

Imagine how you would feel about seeing one face to face. Back in the late seventies, I came face to face with two men I later found out were the Hillside Stranglers, serial killers of young women in Los Angeles. I didn't know their identity until after they were arrested and I recognized one of them in a news report. It still bothers me since there were reports of their activities and crimes at the time I saw them and, given the situation in which I met them, I could have put two and two together and turned them in and stopped their killing spree. i didn't and now I often wish I had been able to do so...

That sounds awful, but in my eyes it is the same point as saying what if someone killed Hitler in 1933 when he rose to power.

You had no way of knowing, you can run into murderders on a day to day basis, people have a lot of skeletons in their closet.
And i've read that most serial killers are so adept at hiding their intentions and personality from society that you wouldn't even have known.

Although I do believe in instinct, some people can just give you an uneasy feeling, like something dissent totally kosher with them.

Still, I can imagine always having that feeling of "what if I did? "

[vienna]

In the encounter I had with the "Hillside Stranglers", I was able to prevent a friend at the time from becoming their next possible victim. I did so not knowing who they were and their MO fit news reports circulating at the time. However, I was working as a bartender at night and was otherwise occupied during the day. I had only marginally paid attention to the news and did not fit the pieces together. I did save one person, inadvertently, but there were other victims afterward. If you look up the case on the internet, you will find their fates were rather grisly. As you said it's a case of "what if I did", but I still feel a sadness that others weren't as fortunate...