View Full Version : Hull Integrity
CherryHarbey
10-20-11, 02:19 PM
I returned from a patrol down the US east coast where I got attacked by several aircraft. I started to head back after particularly heavy mauling. I thought I had about 60-70% hull integrity (I have it hidden) and was regularly diving to 50m to avoid aircraft and storms. I got back to find I only had 32% hull integrity, which to say the least surprised me. Dread to think how close I was to imploding.
So the questions are.....
what is the lowest HI you have returned with?
what depth were you diving to?
and if you have HI hidden....
what HI did you estiamte you had?
what depth would you have gone to if you had known the true value?
Jimbuna
10-20-11, 04:31 PM
In the early days I had my HI viewable and it was once down to 5% so I returned to base surfaced, only daring to go to PD if aircraft were detected.
I feel like there might have been some cue when the hull was stressing under pressure. It's rather unfair, after having invested lots of hours in a career, to have the game suddenly cut-out. Even with hull integrity displayed, it's practically impossible to know how it's going to affect crush depth (unless you know the algorithm for that).
Osmium Steele
10-21-11, 07:10 AM
Just over 8%, and I crossed the entire Atlantic surfaced.
I knew I had been hammered, but didn't know it was that bad.
VONHARRIS
10-21-11, 08:31 AM
3% with an IXD2 and reached Penang
That was an one time patrol.
Missing Name
10-21-11, 08:57 AM
15 percent after hitting a mine. Luckily, I was near a supply ship and was able to limp over that way.
I'm running GWX and I don't see the hull integrity anyplace.
What's the path to the file that controls it, and what changes do I need to make to get it back?
I'm running GWX and I don't see the hull integrity anyplace.
What's the path to the file that controls it, and what changes do I need to make to get it back? If you use SH3 Commander,where you can select it to be displayed or not, :yep:
The lowest i returned with was 3% after being attacked by two Sunderland planes and a few Hurricans (near the british coast) while i was attacking a lone traveler with my deck gun.
Hans Uberman
10-21-11, 12:20 PM
I used to play with it off, but realized that only an incompetent Chief Engineer wouldn't be able to tell me that we had been hurt bad, and shouldn't dive too deep. Now he wouldn't be so exacting as the percentage they give you, but as there's no alternative, no middle ground, I've begun to leave it on.
The lowest I have recorded in the patrol reports is 38.10%, back from when I was learning to play.
Fish In The Water
10-21-11, 01:59 PM
I used to play with it off, but realized that only an incompetent Chief Engineer wouldn't be able to tell me that we had been hurt bad, and shouldn't dive too deep. Now he wouldn't be so exacting as the percentage they give you, but as there's no alternative, no middle ground, I've begun to leave it on.
Sounds sensible to me. I don't see how this causes irreparable harm to the notion of 'realism' or gives the player some untoward advantage.
As you say, the CE would have a general idea in this regard, so perhaps the best solution would be to randomize the display (within a certain percentage) to simulate 'actual' conditions. :yep:
Jimbuna
10-21-11, 03:48 PM
If you want to know what your HI is simply set the parameters in Commander :arrgh!:
I'm not using Commander - only GWX Gold.
Jimbuna
10-21-11, 04:39 PM
I'm not using Commander - only GWX Gold.
Then you'll never know until you return to base :03:
Sailor Steve
10-21-11, 05:43 PM
but as there's no alternative, no middle ground, I've begun to leave it on.
Actually there is.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159866&highlight=h.sie%27s+Colored+Hull+Integrity+Indicat or
I'm not using Commander - only GWX Gold.
Then you don't know how much you're missing. SH3 Commander expands the game in ways you can't imagine.
Hans Uberman
10-21-11, 08:12 PM
Actually there is.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=159866&highlight=h.sie%27s+Colored+Hull+Integrity+Indicat or
Thanks Steve. It's not a high priority, but I would certainly like to try that some time.
Cool, I'll try to download that this weekend! :woot:
CherryHarbey
10-22-11, 01:35 AM
so in summary, 32% is just a scratch.
Lol, out of the plethora of SHIII players, you're bound to find a few extreme outliers....
In my view, you're always lucky to get home. The fact that you did so at ~30% HI is fantastic. :yeah:
CherryHarbey
10-22-11, 07:44 AM
Even luckier given that I was casually taking the boat down to 50m just to stop the watch crew getting wet in poor weather.
Normally I over-estimate damage to the hull, believing it is about to crushed by the next big wave, only to get back and find on the post patrol report screen that I had 98% HI, hence the big shock I got at the end of this one to find out I was much more damaged than I thought. A very lucky escape.
JuergenSchT
10-22-11, 05:33 PM
It was my first patrol on stock game, with a VIIB in September 1939. I had just decimated a barely escorted convoy at AL39, leaving only the American ships alive. I was heading for home, at 1024 TC.
Then I 'gracefully parked' at St. Kilda Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Kilda,_Scotland).
I don't know how I managed to return to Kiel with 4% H.I. Must have been Poseidon.
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