New patch is totally Stupid Stuff?

[Madox58]

Now where did I ever agree that Ubi could put advertisments or images of OTHER Games on my system?
:stare:

Ubi!! If you are not fixing SH5?
I DO NOT WANT YOUR CRAP ON MY SYSTEM!!

You have no license to do so and I DEMAND you remove them!!

As of today? I will begin to charge you for storage of files unrelated to a Game I bought and legally own.
Storage costs for unwanted files is $100.00 U.S. Dollars per Month.
Please kindly submit your payment TODAY or remove the unwanted files!!

Your License Agreement makes NO MENTION of UNWANTED FILES STORED on my system!!
As such?
YOU OWE ME!!

NOW PAY UP OR REMOVE THE FILES!!!

[Paajtor]

:D well, you have 2 choices..either focus on that crap, and quit playing SH5, or ignore it and go for SH5.

[Madox58]

You would sit back and ALLOW this kind of intrusion?
:o

How would you feel if I released a Tool for SH5 that planted UNWANTED crap on your system?

You and everyone else here would see me crusified!!
I don't care much about SH5 for a fact.
But when any SoftWare Company starts storeing crap files on MY SYSTEM?
I'm concerned!!

[Paajtor]

sry, Privateer...I've past that stage, I'm 47 years old and don't care about those details anymore :-?

[Madox58]

I'm 54 years old and a programmer!
I stared the FIRST ISP in my area way back in 1994!!
I sold that business and worked for Judges and Lawyers.

That don't make me the brightest guy on the block.
But when a Big Company starts dumping CRAP on your system that they have no rights to?

THAT IS AN ISSUE!!
Those files can be used to send advertisments to any system World Wide.
Thus saveing Ubi money as they COULD BE useing your bandwidth!!

If your fine with that?
So be it. But I am not happy with the whole 'patch' BS that I see so far!!

[Paajtor]

I've been using Steam for years, used to that crap :P

[Paajtor]

..but the choice remains, put up with it, or quit.
For now, I give SH5 the benifit of the doubt.

[Sailor Steve]

You would sit back and ALLOW this kind of intrusion?
:o
You're asking that on a forum full of people willing to beg permission from the company to play the game they bought. You shouldn't be surprised.

sry, Privateer...I've past that stage, I'm 47 years old and don't care about those details anymore :-?
At 61 I see it as just the opposite. You're young enough to put up with corporate tyranny just so you can play a video game.

[Paajtor]

lol Steve, that's 1 way to look at it :DL

guess you're right, I put up with it.
Another thing I'm used to, but I don't want to talk about my job here :o

[Madox58]

One thing I find interesting?
I never said anything about them screwing with SH5.
I just said I didn't care much about SH5.
I DO CARE when YOU or others get the big prong up the wazoo!!

If you want to sit back and take this kind of abuse?
You do that.
I won't!!
If it helps you that I won't sit back and allow this type crap to go on?
You'll be happy in your ignorence.

Did you notice an addition to some lag in the Game from the 'New Patch'?
:hmmm:

I did.
I am launching several applications from multiple systems to watch what is going on now.
That information is going to be sent to several Specialists to determine what steps We take next.

I also sent a warning to Ubi that IF I find what I think I will find?
I will launch Legal Actions!

Keep your DRM Ubi, if that's what you want.
But if you are useing my system in ANYWAY?
You are a Hacker!! And I will shut you down in this case!!

(Now think what would happen if they are doing something like this with all the Games?)

(CRAP!! Had to Edit because Steve is watching my speling!!)

[Sailor Steve]

(CRAP!! Had to Edit because Steve is watching my speling!!)
If you're really worried about that then you'd better edit a lot more. :O:

[kiwi_2005]

I also sent a warning to Ubi that IF I find what I think I will find?
I will launch Legal Actions!



Oh man I hope you find something so a big court action will go ahead and make my life on messageboards all that bit more exciting. And don't forget to post updates of your court action here for me/us to read. :arrgh!:

But anyway is this the 1.2 patch we're talking about or is there a new patch out haven't loaded up SH5 for the last 24hrs or more.

[Madox58]

My last log in was just a few hours ago.
(I usually run a patch)
You can brig me for admitting to useing things like this or you can Keelhaul me.
That is actually a mote point IF What I'm seeing is valid!!!
I'd almost think if I DO get a 'Bad Boy' type thingy?
Your involved!

You are running SH5 and get a patch that did nothing more then add image files of other Games to your system!!

Show me in the License files where we agreed to this type invasion!!

[kylania]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've just restarted my game client three times and I'm not seeing any ads or movies or anything for any other games.

The date on my silent hunter 5 folder keeps changing to whenever I last opened it, but I'm not seeing any new files appear.

Got a screenshot of what you're talking about?

[Madox58]

It has nothing to do with SH5 in any way!!
That is the point!
Look in your UbiSoft Game Launcher folder.
Show me ONE file that involves SH5!

Then show me where I agreed that Ubi could plant this garbage on my system!!

A class action law suit is pretty much called for here.

[THE_MASK]

I carnt see any changes :hmmm:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2641/coky.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/408/coky.jpg/)

[Madox58]

Now try to find somewhere to send a complaint report to!!
Seems you can't find a simple area to do so!
FREAKING UBISOFT!

You hide behind not responding.
All the better for a nice legal action!!
:rock:

[THE_MASK]

I n the sh5 support folder there is readme which lists technical support sites .
7. Important Web Sites, Contact Information and Technical Support

[Madox58]

I carnt see any changes :hmmm:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2641/coky.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/408/coky.jpg/)
:har:
I do find that funny but it distracts from the main issue!
UbiSoft has taken you for a ride you did not agree to.
If your fine with that?
I can send you my paypal info and set it up in a way that everytime you post you donate money to me.
Ubi is doing that. And most posting here are Happy with that.
May as well get my pay day also.
:nope:

[TheDarkWraith]

I carnt see any changes :hmmm:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2641/coky.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/408/coky.jpg/)

Ah so that's how those Germans stayed awake for such long periods :haha:

Good one sober :up:

I think that needs a post of the year recommendation...and I'm on the board! I don't think I can recommend those that received awards last year though....

[THE_MASK]

What is the exact problem ?

[Madox58]

Well if you don't want to read the whole thread and the concerns raised?
Give me some moments and I'll give you a download link.
Of course you can't whine when I take your system for a long drawn out ride!!
We had no agreement just LIKE UbiSoft when they use your system!
You Guys are REALLY ignorant of this type crap arn't you?

[9thinfSword]

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff251/Sworddevil/Untitled-3.png (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/%3Ca%20href=)">

Is this what your talking about.http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/%3Ca%20href=%22http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff251/Sworddevil/?action=view&current=Untitled-3.png%22%20target=%22_blank%22%3E%3Cimg%20src=%22h ttp://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff251/Sworddevil/Untitled-3.png%22%20border=%220%22%20alt=%22Photobucket%22% 3E%3C/a%3E

[Madox58]

I have veriied that the files I did not agree to be placed on my system
are being sent over my bandwidth.

I"m waiting for UbiSoft to give thier response.
:hmmm:

[THE_MASK]

Apparently the last ubi launcher patch has nothing to do with launching SH5 . How does that affect me ?

[kylania]

That picture that 9thinfSword posted are the files for the games that the Ubisoft launcher supports. They aren't ads, they aren't invasive and have been there since you first installed the launcher which you agreed to do in order to use the game in the first place. That image on my PC was created Tuesday, March 02, 2010, 9:25:16 PM for example.

I'm really not seeing what the problem here is if Privateer is talking about that image. You never see those images unless you start that game. There's no popups, there's no in game ads, there's no pushed notifications. In all it's 74MB on my system, which is basically nothing with today's hard drive sizes. Heck, I have individual files that are larger than that. :DL If 74MB is pushing you over your bandwidth caps, A) you need a new ISP stat without usage caps, and B) you need to stop downloading so many movies. heh

I'm still not seeing what the problem is, sorry... I've started my Launcher 10 times tonight and not had any new patches or anything.

[Madox58]

Obviously you have not compared files before the newest patch and after.
I thought you all knew better.
My mistake for being one who gives a sheite!
:nope:
Carry on.

[THE_MASK]

Obviously you have not compared files before the newest patch and after.
I thought you all knew better.
My mistake for being one who gives a sheite!
:nope:
Carry on.Correct , i have not compared files . I care about it , it is just that maybe i am too thick to know what i am caring about . You get my drift bucko .

[kylania]

Certainly nothing to warrant this much angst much less a class action lawsuit. :DL

What files are we not noticing at all? You haven't given any specifics only that there was apparently some patch that offended you. Are you sure you don't have a virus or something?

My launcher folder is only 74MB, that doesn't seem out of line at all for this type of program. Here's the logs from when I last patched, which was Oct 8th.


2011-10-08 17:07:17 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (821) : replacing files
2011-10-08 17:07:17 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108010_3208_0.tmp to Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest
2011-10-08 17:07:17 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108010_3208_1.tmp to msvcm90.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:17 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108011_3208_2.tmp to msvcp90.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:17 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108012_3208_3.tmp to msvcr90.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:17 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108012_3208_4.tmp to QtCore4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108015_3208_5.tmp to QtGui4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108023_3208_6.tmp to ubiorbitapi_r2.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108024_3208_7.tmp to UbisoftGameLauncher.exe
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108029_3208_8.tmp to uplay_r1.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108030_3208_9.tmp to version.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108030_3208_10.tmp to imageformats/qgif4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108030_3208_11.tmp to imageformats/qico4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108031_3208_12.tmp to imageformats/qjpeg4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108031_3208_13.tmp to imageformats/qmng4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108031_3208_14.tmp to imageformats/qtiff4.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108032_3208_15.tmp to data/resources/country_list.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108032_3208_16.tmp to data/resources/LICENSES.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108032_3208_17.tmp to data/netfaq/de-DE_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108033_3208_18.tmp to data/netfaq/en-GB_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108033_3208_19.tmp to data/netfaq/en-US_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108033_3208_20.tmp to data/netfaq/es-ES_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108033_3208_21.tmp to data/netfaq/fr-FR_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:18 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108033_3208_22.tmp to data/netfaq/header.png
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108033_3208_23.tmp to data/netfaq/it-IT_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108034_3208_24.tmp to data/netfaq/logo.png
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108034_3208_25.tmp to data/netfaq/netfaq.html
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108034_3208_26.tmp to data/netfaq/padding.png
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108034_3208_27.tmp to data/netfaq/ru-RU_flag.png
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108034_3208_28.tmp to data/loc/cs-CZ_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108034_3208_29.tmp to data/loc/da-DK_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108035_3208_30.tmp to data/loc/de-DE_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108035_3208_31.tmp to data/loc/en-US_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108035_3208_32.tmp to data/loc/es-ES_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108035_3208_33.tmp to data/loc/fi-FI_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108035_3208_34.tmp to data/loc/fr-FR_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108035_3208_35.tmp to data/loc/hu-HU_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_36.tmp to data/loc/it-IT_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_37.tmp to data/loc/ja-JP_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_38.tmp to data/loc/ko-KO_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_39.tmp to data/loc/nb-NO_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_40.tmp to data/loc/nl-NL_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_41.tmp to data/loc/pl-PL_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108036_3208_42.tmp to data/loc/pt-PT_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:19 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108037_3208_43.tmp to data/loc/ru-RU_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:20 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108037_3208_44.tmp to data/loc/sv-SE_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:20 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108037_3208_45.tmp to data/loc/zh-CN_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:20 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108037_3208_46.tmp to data/loc/zh-TW_loc.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:20 [5376] [DEBUG ] PatchPage.cpp (243) : Patch job was successful
2011-10-08 17:07:37 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (821) : replacing files
2011-10-08 17:07:37 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108040_3208_0.tmp to data/3/version.txt
2011-10-08 17:07:37 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108040_3208_1.tmp to data/3/osis/13/d3d8thk.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108041_3208_2.tmp to data/3/osis/13/D3DX9_40.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108046_3208_3.tmp to data/3/osis/13/D3DX9_41.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108050_3208_4.tmp to data/3/osis/13/D3DX9_42.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108052_3208_5.tmp to data/3/osis/13/dbghelp.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108053_3208_6.tmp to data/3/osis/13/FileManager.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108053_3208_7.tmp to data/3/osis/13/Kernel.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108054_3208_8.tmp to data/3/osis/13/LowLevelUtils.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108054_3208_9.tmp to data/3/osis/13/MessageNet.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108054_3208_10.tmp to data/3/osis/13/osi.args
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108055_3208_11.tmp to data/3/osis/13/osi.exe
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108055_3208_12.tmp to data/3/osis/13/ScriptManagerNative.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108055_3208_13.tmp to data/3/osis/13/SH_NProtocol.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108055_3208_14.tmp to data/3/osis/13/SimData.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108056_3208_15.tmp to data/3/osis/13/TuningTool.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108057_3208_16.tmp to data/3/osis/13/Utils.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchDownloader2.cpp (852) : moving new file 1318108057_3208_17.tmp to data/3/osis/13/zlib1.dll
2011-10-08 17:07:38 [5420] [DEBUG ] PatchPage.cpp (243) : Patch job was successful
2011-10-08 17:07:39 [4264] [DEBUG ] main.cpp (1163) : stopping launcher
It's basically just the DRM system being updated to remove the always-online requirement.

What am I missing here, because at least on my machine I'm not seeing anything at all that would cause this much uproar. :-?