Log in

View Full Version : Einstein was right after all - neutrinos didn't go faster than light


mookiemookie
10-17-11, 12:07 PM
The mere fact that the experiment’s results were so consistent suggested that one of two things had to be true: either the neutrinos really were going faster than the speed of light and Einstein’s theory would have to be revised or that there was something wrong with the experiment, which was more likely than a single experiment destroying the framework of modern physics. The results now seem to indicate that there was indeed something wrong with the experiment itself, and oddly, the flaw may actually reinforce Einstein’s theory.

http://www.fellowgeek.com/a-Einstein%E2%80%99s-Theory-Still-Safe.html

Well, so much for warp drives. For now.

Oberon
10-17-11, 12:15 PM
Dang. Ah well, nothing ventured, nothing gained. :salute:

AVGWarhawk
10-17-11, 12:24 PM
I'm glad that is cleared up! :DL

MH
10-17-11, 12:26 PM
Ahh.. those lazy neutrinos.

Raptor1
10-17-11, 12:29 PM
Curses, now we'll have to look for another way to defeat Einstein and his annoying relativity...

August
10-17-11, 02:57 PM
The results now seem to indicate

Gee can they give themselves any more wiggle room? :DL

Jimbuna
10-17-11, 03:03 PM
Never draft in foreign labour :DL

mapuc
10-17-11, 03:49 PM
Offcourse you can go faster that light, haven't you seen Star Trek

Markus

AVGWarhawk
10-17-11, 03:49 PM
This changes everything.

mapuc
10-17-11, 03:56 PM
Maybe one day in the future, our scientist will find something, that gives us the possiblity to fly faster than light.

Markus

Gerald
10-17-11, 03:58 PM
This changes everything. Yes, but not my approach to women, and taste :haha:

frau kaleun
10-17-11, 04:15 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/8/22/6a672a42-da3e-4278-8d09-d41ee81e541b.jpg

vienna
10-17-11, 04:25 PM
Maybe the answer is not a matter of speed, but of place; a quantum "jump" rather than linear travel over a period of time...

Jimbuna
10-17-11, 04:36 PM
Maybe one day in the future, our scientist will find something, that gives us the possiblity to fly faster than light.

Markus

Possibly!!

mapuc
10-17-11, 04:39 PM
Possibly!!
:oops: Forgot an i

"Possibility" is the correct word

Markus

soopaman2
10-17-11, 04:53 PM
Who needs Einstien, when we had J Robert Oppenheimer. The true father of the atomic bomb, ask Dr. Michio Kaku (smartest man on Earth). He said the same.

Jimbuna
10-17-11, 04:59 PM
Granted!!

TLAM Strike
10-17-11, 05:55 PM
Curses, now we'll have to look for another way to defeat Einstein and his annoying relativity...
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/244/motivator07e31e7a7b0a96.jpg

Penguin
10-17-11, 06:01 PM
Curses, now we'll have to look for another way to defeat Einstein and his annoying relativity...

Well, quantum mechanics is a start ;)

frau kaleun
10-17-11, 06:02 PM
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/605/einsteinpants.jpg

Agiel7
10-17-11, 06:33 PM
First response was: "Awww man..."

Really I'd love to see practical FTL that allows for, say, Mass Effect levels of interplanetary colonization within the next millennium and humanity cracking intergalactic travel at some point.

CaptainMattJ.
10-17-11, 06:42 PM
the reason we cant travel at at least light speed is because the faster you go, the more mass you have. At light speed, mass is infinite.

They are working on literal "warp drives". They call warp drives warp drives because instead of "acceleration" of an object, you push space out of your way, Warp the space around you. Kind of like putting a Glass on a table and pulling the table cloth. The glass will move towards you, however the glass isnt moving, therefore it isnt actually accelerated, and thus have no gain of mass and therefore has no limit as to how fast you can warp space around you. The analogy doesnt exactly work in the field of science, but the picture is the same. Instead of you going through space, you push space out of your way whilst remaining still

They say they need negative energy, but negative energy is unproven and undiscovered as a source of energy for such travel.

Wormholes, also unproven though they may be, are also something people are looking into. They need negative energy to create wormholes and keep gravity from closing them up (negative energy is said to be anti-gravity), but wormholes are also a viable option if we find proof of them.

magicstix
10-17-11, 07:53 PM
Who needs Einstien, when we had J Robert Oppenheimer. The true father of the atomic bomb, ask Dr. Michio Kaku (smartest man on Earth). He said the same.

I'm still waiting for Michio Kaku to make a meaningful contribution to the advancement of science...

Osmium Steele
10-18-11, 07:16 AM
Yeah, this. :agree:

Oberon
10-18-11, 07:42 AM
Shame Feynman isn't around any more. He'd have enjoyed looking through this.

Oberon
10-18-11, 07:43 AM
Oh, and I'll leave a little something that Nagy linked me too once here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGINaRUEkU :know:

tater
10-18-11, 11:29 AM
Too bad, now this joke doesn't work:

Bar Tender: "We don't serve your kind in here! Get out!"

A neutrino walks into a bar.

Oberon
10-18-11, 11:43 AM
Too bad, now this joke doesn't work:

Bar Tender: "We don't serve your kind in here! Get out!"

A neutrino walks into a bar.

:har::har::har::har: :yeah:

Sailor Steve
10-18-11, 12:06 PM
:yep: :rotfl2:

Irrelevant now or not, I had never heard that one.

Reminds me of the limerick:

There was a young lady named Bright,
Who could travel much faster than light.
She set out one day,
In a relative way,
And returned the preceding night.

soopaman2
10-18-11, 12:51 PM
I'm still waiting for Michio Kaku to make a meaningful contribution to the advancement of science...
Respectfully, He has..

It is called string theory..

It is just not in a field of science you see as relevant. But it is enough for him to earn a doctorate on.
:salute:

Edit:I can understand if you don't find theoretical physics relevant, but atomic behavior was theoretical at one point too. (Just look at our shiny bombs now!)

magicstix
10-18-11, 06:39 PM
Respectfully, He has..

It is called string theory..

It is just not in a field of science you see as relevant. But it is enough for him to earn a doctorate on.
:salute:

Edit:I can understand if you don't find theoretical physics relevant, but atomic behavior was theoretical at one point too. (Just look at our shiny bombs now!)

String theory has yet to produce an experimentally verifiable prediction. It also has yet to properly unify quantum mechanics and general relativity.

So it's not experimentally verifiable, and it doesn't answer all of the questions... We have a term for that, it's called 'faith.'

NeonSamurai
10-18-11, 09:13 PM
... experimentally verifiable...

:haha: I often wonder when the scientific world will ever catch up. Nice to see they are still 100 years behind! :O:

Anyhow it is a pity if relativity hasn't fallen, as it is the only way science progresses.