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TFatseas
10-04-11, 10:59 PM
Interesting bit of history that I haven't read much about.

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/article/?q=NmIzNDRhNjY1NjE4Y2E4NjE5ZWIwZjllZTJkZDExY2E=
http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page99.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7537000/7537585.stm


Inside, the American diplomats had known about these disappearances almost from the very beginning. But they did little to save their fellow countrymen, whom they had christened "the captured Americans."
Thousands killed
The emigrants began their long journey either into the prison cells and the Gulag camps, or the shorter route to the execution grounds

TarJak
10-05-11, 04:51 AM
Interesting. Not a part of history I'd heard about before.

joea
10-05-11, 04:55 AM
McCarthy would have been happy. :dead:

Penguin
10-05-11, 05:10 AM
indeed, very interesting.

I wouldn't call them all communists however, as many just looked for work during the Great Depression.

Jimbuna
10-05-11, 07:20 AM
Interesting...first I've heard of this.

nikimcbee
10-05-11, 09:35 AM
I guess they learned about communism the hard way.:dead:

Osmium Steele
10-05-11, 09:59 AM
I'd read about the migration, but not the results.

Sad.

yubba
10-06-11, 06:51 PM
And they want that here in the states, I told you guys about that ditch, I never heard of conservatives lining people up along a ditch and gunning them down.

kraznyi_oktjabr
10-06-11, 07:02 PM
And they want that here in the states, I told you guys about that ditch, I never heard of conservatives lining people up along a ditch and gunning them down.Just curious yubba, who you think to be willing to introduce Stalinism into United States? Who would be next Stalin?

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yubba
10-06-11, 08:49 PM
Any one of those nut jobs in the White House and Obama is right at the top of the list, and most of those that are down on wallstreet right now. So you think if they introduced communism here in the states there wouldn't be blood shed what makes us so different that we are immune to history, that's why we study it. What do you think this Government is doing, they are trying to bankrupt us into socalism, another ism that kills people, and they say the Tea Party is the enemy, and what do you do too your enemies, that's right you kill them, then who in the hell is running our government. It's We the People not Government for More Government. They want all this free stuff so who's going to pay for it, You know what I'll go along with your socialist heaven, I'm poor and I would like to play SH 4 but I can't afford a machine to run it, I think in the interest of social justice you should give me your machine, it is obivious that you have more than I and it would only be fair, what say you.????????

TLAM Strike
10-06-11, 09:27 PM
Strange thing is we were just discussing this in my Cold War history class and how some Americans were fooled by the Soviets in thinking that Communism worked and was a solution to the ills of the Great Depression. :hmmm:

Tribesman
10-07-11, 03:23 AM
Strange thing is we were just discussing this in my Cold War history class and how some Americans were fooled by the Soviets in thinking that Communism worked and was a solution to the ills of the Great Depression.
If they were convinced communism worked why did they move to a Stalinist state?

Betonov
10-07-11, 03:33 AM
If they were convinced communism worked why did they move to a Stalinist state?

Stalin had an excellent PR department, making himself look like a communist, not a stalinist

joea
10-07-11, 07:28 AM
And they want that here in the states, I told you guys about that ditch, I never heard of conservatives lining people up along a ditch and gunning them down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#The_end_of_the_Civil_War

At least 50,000 people were executed during the civil war.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#cite_note-oepcls-21)[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#cite_note-33)[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#cite_note-34) Franco's victory was followed by thousands of summary executions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summary_execution) (from 15,000 to 25,000 people[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#cite_note-35)) and imprisonments, while many were put to forced labour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour), building railways, drying out swamps, digging canals (La Corchuela, the Canal of the Bajo Guadalquivir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalquivir)), construction of the Valle de los Caídos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valle_de_los_Ca%C3%ADdos) monument, etc. The 1940 shooting of the president of the Catalan government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalitat_de_Catalunya), Lluís Companys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llu%C3%ADs_Companys), was one of the most notable cases of this early suppression of opponents and dissenters. According to Gabriel Jackson, the number of victims of the "White Terror" (executions and hunger or illness in prisons) only between 1939 and 1943 was 200,000.[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#cite_note-36)

Let me preempt a couple of things here-I did not choose the Nazis because, well folks (myself included) ALWAYS bring up the Nazis. Plus Franco was clrearly a traditionalist conservative Catholic and certain people always bring up the fact the Nazis were "National Socialists" to show they were in some bizzare way related to mildly left wing parties like the NDP (Canada) or Labour or centrist parties like the Democrats.

Also I am WELL aware the communists and anarchists etc. in the Spanish Civil War did their own share of slaughter-you can read Orwell's "A Homage to Catalonia" for a good eyewitness account.