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Der Kuenstler
10-02-11, 07:38 AM
Twice now I've gotten this message while submerged during depth charge attacks. Does this mean the depth charges got me or I hit something on the bottom? Are the messages the same for either?

Nerazzurri
10-02-11, 07:43 AM
I've not had that yet as I've just returned to SH3 (it'll happen soon enough though!), but next time, whilst you're being hunted (or even better prior to diving deeper after launching torpedoes) check the depth under you're keel - then you'll be in no doubt and can concentrate on the escorts and depth charges.

Sharkbait24
10-02-11, 08:42 AM
I'm usually a little hesitant about using depth under keel, because the active sonar is like a magnet for DDs.

Nerazzurri
10-02-11, 10:47 AM
Yeah, it can be. I suppose I should've been more specific :yep:

Best used when you're on the opposite side of merchants from any escorts or when you're in their wake. I suppose if they're pinging you hard there's no harm in using it either.

Obltn Strand
10-02-11, 11:26 AM
I'm usually a little hesitant about using depth under keel, because the active sonar is like a magnet for DDs.

Use it as much as you like. Escorts won't hear it. It's in the game.
Besides map is far too inaccurate to check depth.

Brag
10-02-11, 02:47 PM
Use it as much as you like. Escorts won't hear it. It's in the game.
Besides map is far too inaccurate to check depth.

Right, in the game escorts are deaf to the fathometer ping.

acetoolguy
10-02-11, 02:55 PM
Are there live mines in the game?

Pisces
10-02-11, 04:14 PM
There are minefields in GWX at least. I never checked stock campaign files.

Fish In The Water
10-02-11, 06:31 PM
Are there live mines in the game?

Lots of them in GWX, especially around Helgoland and the east coast of Britain. :o

Der Kuenstler
10-02-11, 08:35 PM
Twice now I've gotten this message while submerged during depth charge attacks. Does this mean the depth charges got me or I hit something on the bottom? Are the messages the same for either?

Can anyone answer the questions? lol

CCIP
10-02-11, 09:48 PM
This usually means that you hit mines. I can't recall any other time that I got that message, except after hitting mines.

Hinrich Schwab
10-02-11, 09:53 PM
Twice now I've gotten this message while submerged during depth charge attacks. Does this mean the depth charges got me or I hit something on the bottom? Are the messages the same for either?

Where are you in the campaign? It can be either a depth charge or a Hedgehog bomb.

Der Kuenstler
10-02-11, 09:58 PM
So there's no map in gwx to tell you approximately where the mines are so you can avoid them? They are all along the coast and you just randomly run into them and sink? :stare:

Der Kuenstler
10-02-11, 10:01 PM
Where are you in the campaign? It can be either a depth charge or a Hedgehog bomb.

I'm in about May of 1940. I thought I had about 50 meters to spare last bottom sounding I did, and the depth charges seemed pretty far away (not rocking the boat) then all of the sudden my men started turning red and I got the message and died before I could do anything.

Hinrich Schwab
10-02-11, 10:06 PM
I'm in about May of 1940. I thought I had about 50 meters to spare last bottom sounding I did, and the depth charges seemed pretty far away (not rocking the boat) then all of the sudden my men started turning red and I got the message and died before I could do anything.

I would say that you struck a mine. 50 meters and May of 1940...you wouldn't by chance, be in or near the English Channel or near Scapa Flow would you?

Fish In The Water
10-03-11, 02:41 AM
So there's no map in gwx to tell you approximately where the mines are so you can avoid them? They are all along the coast and you just randomly run into them and sink? :stare:

The Brits weren't kind enough to supply a map in real life, so I'd hardly expect GWX to do so. :03:

That being said, if you really want to take a peak, open up the campaign file with the mission editor.

Pisces
10-03-11, 08:23 AM
The Brits weren't kind enough to supply a map in real life, so I'd hardly expect GWX to do so. :03:

That being said, if you really want to take a peak, open up the campaign file with the mission editor.The PDF manual also gives a great deal of info on where you can expect minefields. Enemy fields, as wel as friendly minefields. (port defenses) There should even be a slidedown sheet on the map with port drawings iirc.

But the mission editor has the final word.

Der Kuenstler
10-03-11, 11:56 AM
I would say that you struck a mine. 50 meters and May of 1940...you wouldn't by chance, be in or near the English Channel or near Scapa Flow would you?


Specifically I was in the deep area of AN55, about 70 KM NE of Hartlepool.

Sailor Steve
10-03-11, 02:07 PM
There should even be a slidedown sheet on the map with port drawings iirc.
There is, but only for friendly ports, as is historical. Actually I'm not sure they were informed of mine locations in friendly ports either. That's part of the reason for escort vessels.

Pisces
10-03-11, 02:39 PM
Specifically I was in the deep area of AN55, about 70 KM NE of Hartlepool.Pretty sure that would have been a mine. By that time (mid 1940) they laid down a carpet of mines all along the eastern Brittish coast.

Missing Name
10-03-11, 06:56 PM
MY last encounter with a mine was rather fortunate. Only a large hole in the sub, a missing deck gun and lots of split batteries! (Near Dover, on BdU's orders.)

Dogfish40
10-04-11, 10:09 AM
Use it as much as you like. Escorts won't hear it. It's in the game.
Besides map is far too inaccurate to check depth.

Right, in the game escorts are deaf to the fathometer ping.

Wow,
This is great, I thought that the fathometer in SH4 was able to be heard and I never used it in the presence of the enemy. So I acted accordingly for this game. This is great info, because I'm not really too keen on the map for getting any depth data. :yeah:

Fish In The Water
10-04-11, 06:37 PM
Right, in the game escorts are deaf to the fathometer ping.

True enough, but I like to play as if they aren't. It's ping early and ping once (long before you enter contact range) for me. :up:

Sailor Steve
10-04-11, 07:39 PM
True enough, but I like to play as if they aren't. It's ping early and ping once (long before you enter contact range) for me. :up:
:yep: I couldn't do it any other way.