Music From the USSR... [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

kraznyi_oktjabr

09-20-11, 04:47 AM

I have a thing for Communist block 70's and 80's music like ***1044;***1044;***1058;, ***1084;***1072;***1096;***1080;***1085;***1072; ***1074;***1088;***1077;***1085;***1077;***1085;** *1080;, ***1082;***1080;***1085;***1086;, ***1085;***1072;***1091;, ***1072;***1082;***1074;***1072;***1088;***1080;** *1091;***1084;, etc etc:hmmm: What I should see here? I see a lot of numbers which do not make any sense... "***1074;***1088;***1085" as examples.

I-25

09-20-11, 05:23 AM

Ahh didn't even see that :o i tough the forums supported Crylic characters

will edit

Hottentot

09-20-11, 05:52 AM

I'd recommend getting familiar with the Soviet film scene as well: songs from films often became known on their own right. This song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyIIGAy6s40), for example. Search with that name from Youtube and you'll find plenty of versions from it, some old and some modern.

Ahh didn't even see that :o i tough the forums supported Crylic characters

They used to, but it hasn't worked for a while now.

nikimcbee

09-20-11, 08:38 AM

In before CCIP:haha:. Soviet era music rules.

I love Kino and Igor Tal'kov. I'll post some videos later.:up:

CCIP

09-20-11, 08:54 AM

In before CCIP:haha:. Soviet era music rules.

Actually, the original post covered a lot of what I listen to from the Soviet era, except possibly Alisa and Grazhdanskaya Oborona :D

Otherwise DDT and Akvarium are among my absolute favourite bands (probably my 2nd and 3rd most favourite bands ever, after the obviously-non-Russian King Crimson).

Most Russian music I listen to these days is post-Soviet-era though. Still, good stuff, I'm impressed you already have that list down. It's always awesome for people outside the former republics to be interested in that remarkable era in music :up:

Hottentot

09-20-11, 10:30 AM

As far as film music goes, I might add these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIyXiiaEzjg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hm-T1u394Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uDWaMHvBgo
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uDWaMHvBgo)(Couldn't find a version from the film, but I guess it works this way too.)

Okay, okay, so I just love that film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Vasilievich:_Back_to_the_Future). Sue me. :88)

Most Russian music I listen to these days is post-Soviet-era though.
Same here. I still have plenty of favorites from the Soviet era and pick up new ones every now and then, but vast majority are fairly new production. Depends on mood.

HunterICX

09-20-11, 11:01 AM

Sometimes I listen to the work of Dmitri Shostakovich.
5th Symphony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJFXqYEYd8
8th Symphony:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKshbAYacnA

or some of the piano concerto of Sergei Rachmaninoff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8l37utZxMQ

HunterICX

fred8615

09-20-11, 12:34 PM

I have a thing for Communist block 70's and 80's music like DDT, mashina vremeni, nautilus Pomp. kino, akvarium, etc

i have a lot of the bands i just mentioned but can you guys recommend me more:yeah:

and a bit of everything not necessarily just rock
If you'd like to try some real "oldies," I have a bunch of WWII era and before USSR music in my Radio Stations & Music mods thread. Use the link in my sig below.

You may also want to try this link:

http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/index.php

It's where I got most of my music from, but it also has some post-war stuff too.

Hottentot

09-20-11, 12:42 PM

http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/index.php

That's a great source (from a history major's point of view). If you can read Russian, use that version of the site instead, it's larger and has more information.

However, that site's ideological bias shows in selected songs. It has a large variety of certain kind of songs, but not that large variety of Soviet songs, as far as I've seen.

I-25

09-20-11, 12:54 PM

Keep em coming guys im loving this stuff!:salute:

However, that site's ideological bias shows in selected songs. It has a large variety of certain kind of songs, but not that large variety of Soviet songs, as far as I've seen.

you gotta admit most of the rock scene wasn't particular well looked upon by the Gov.
but then again we in the western world had the same thing in the 60s

all i know oldies are the best even in western. im not into anything new its all Pre-89' for me:cool:

I-25

09-20-11, 12:55 PM

Otherwise DDT and Akvarium are among my absolute favourite bands (probably my 2nd and 3rd most favourite bands ever, after the obviously-non-Russian King Crimson).

your one of mine :yeah:
king crimson is one of the BEST!

prog rock for ever:rock:

Hottentot

09-20-11, 01:09 PM

you gotta admit most of the rock scene wasn't particular well looked upon by the Gov.

True. But if someone bases his/her opinion of the Soviet musical culture on that site alone, he/she inevitably arrives in the conclusion that an average Soviet citizen of any decade woke up with a joyous marching song, sung more joyous marching songs on the way to work, sung some more joyous marching songs on the way back home and went to sleep listening to political speeches.

That site rarely even mentions such composers as Shostakovich, and he definitely wasn't underground. It doesn't cover the Soviet jazz, nor folksongs that were (at least in the 1930s) far more popular than the "official" stuff.

In short, the site claims it tries to represent the Soviet culture, but in fact it represents a very narrow and some might even say insulting view of it.

CCIP

09-20-11, 01:23 PM

There was definitely no lack of Soviet pop music, which was not in any way related to socialist marches - most of it was definitely pretty 'sanitized' though, which is why by comparison the often downright reasonable and peaceful bands of the late 70s-early 80s underground movement look radical. In a lot of senses it was never a mainstream or widely-popular movement, and probably never would come to wide attention either in Russia or abroad if it weren't for radically changing politics and society that was starving for an alternative to stagnating Soviet values. Otherwise it was (and still is) largely a movement of bored intellectuals who wanted something more in their music than nice tunes and socially-acceptable rhymes.

One band whose work you might enjoy is "Duby-Kolduny" (bah lack of Cyrillic), which was basically a group of those same ex-underground musicians (chiefly from DDT and Alisa) playing 60s and 70s Soviet pop songs ironically in the 90s, because at that point things turned upside down and what was underground was now mainstream. Playing things that were at that point kitsch and uncool somehow appealed to them. When people started taking them seriously, they stopped. Luckily for them, by that point rock music was again forced underground, this time by commercial interests, so they went back to their real calling.

for example:
http://youtu.be/c5l3-mGiVjk
http://youtu.be/9iTzYYmOrL4
http://youtu.be/p-AYhAAkZgM

TLAM Strike

09-20-11, 02:17 PM

Requried... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY)

I-25

09-20-11, 02:54 PM

One band whose work you might enjoy is "Duby-Kolduny"

never heard of them before but you were right so far i'm liking their stuff :yeah:

nikimcbee

09-21-11, 12:12 AM

McBee play list samples:
Kino:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP2XLjwqKm4&feature=BFa&list=FLaVfse7OxY3T9By3_c__HJg&lf=mh_lolz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZQeCW6f-ws&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjjXL_S4Ovw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1qMiavIUoI&feature=related

The first Russian rock song I ever heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aFMDZP5ARs&feature=related

YPA for bard rock: One of my alltime fav Russian songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TraO3AvtfW0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9kGEUiT7CY&feature=BFa&list=WL7C724F6261B1CB0E&lf=mh_lolz

I-25

09-21-11, 03:12 AM

Gato76

09-21-11, 04:19 PM

Requried... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY) That was horrible.

Stealhead

09-21-11, 10:58 PM

McBee i LOVE The Kino songs you posted there, thoese are some of my favorites

In a way it was KINO that got me into russian music
in the 1988 movie "the beast" theres a scene were their playing Trolley Bus by Kino on the radio and from there on i liked it and looked it up (way before i knew even basic Russian so it took me a LONG time to find it)

Kamchatka was the first russian song i learned to play on guitar:rock:
i like this version better tough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFi7V9w7DY

When i'm driving around town here in mexico booming out russian songs everyone looks at me like whats up with that guy but i just cant help it i love this stuff! so unique so much feeling to it, not like a lot of the western stuff

and Igor Talkov is very good i hadn't heard of him before but im loving it :yeah:

Ah "The Beast" a guy I knew in the Air Force loaned me that movie back in 1999 or so I had never heard it before then it is a fairly good movie. Has anyone see the Russain movie "9th Company"? it is about a VDV unnit in Afghanistan in 1988 it is pretty damn good.You have to order a South Korean Version that has English subtitles and they did not do the credits but it has some good Soviet rock in it or it might be modern Russian bands playing in the 80s style cant read the credits so that part I do not know.

I-25

09-22-11, 03:31 PM

Has anyone see the Russain movie "9th Company"?

seen it, got it and got the music from it :salute:

good movie indeed

Obelix

09-22-11, 08:37 PM

Hello!
Very nice to see that our Soviet music is interesting in many parts of the world.

When i'm driving around town here in mexico booming out russian songs everyone looks at me like whats up with that guy but i just cant help it i love this stuff!

I recommend listening to Vladimir Vysotsky (http://vv.uka.ru/), he wrote and sang so many songs: serious, humorous, ironic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QefqsuIO1y8
http://video.mail.ru/mail/gubannina/122/95.html

I can still recommend the "Picnic"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSvXELSiEd0

Unfortunately, our modern music is not such an interest - for the most part this soap - was over and forget about it.
Musicians have little to offer - some drawn to sing in English and as a result, they lost on the general background of the world, nothing of itself is not presenting.

Hottentot

09-23-11, 12:14 AM

Unfortunately, our modern music is not such an interest - for the most part this soap - was over and forget about it.
Musicians have little to offer - some drawn to sing in English and as a result, they lost on the general background of the world, nothing of itself is not presenting.

While the modern music resembles any other music, I wouldn't say it's not interesting. Well, at least it is to a foreigner trying to learn the language. I like Russian as a singing language, it sounds good. That alone makes the modern music for me more interesting than majority of the songs in English.

CCIP

09-23-11, 12:22 AM

How did I forget Vysotsky :damn: Maybe because he stands so big over pretty much any other music to come out of the USSR that you kind of assume everyone knows about him anyway!

And I'd disagree about modern Russian music - if we are talking about mass market music, yeah, but it's the same everywhere in the world. Most of what you get on TV is soap, no matter what country you're in.

At the same time there is a massive and interesting scene just slightly underground. There are local rock scenes in several cities that are worth checking out. There is extremely interesting progressive and folk-fusion artists working in Russia. There are whole genres of electronic music endemic to Russia. Lots of interesting things going on - much like anywhere else, really. They're just not popular enough to be on TV most of the time thanks to all-pervading popsa.

PapaKilo

09-23-11, 12:43 AM

CCIP

No ti uzhe vzrosli, ti prosta nebudesh slushat skazki, vsio ochen neprosta, ti bolshe neliubish grupu Kraski :haha:

CCIP

09-23-11, 01:00 AM

Hey, this isn't the karaoke thread! :O:

Obelix

09-23-11, 01:39 AM

And I'd disagree about modern Russian music - if we are talking about mass market music, yeah, but it's the same everywhere in the world. Most of what you get on TV is soap, no matter what country you're in.

Yes, this music I had in mind - the one that gives us a tv and radio.
And beyond TV and radio there are many interesting things. I recently listened more hard rock. Representatives of this trend, we also are many - Aria, Black Coffee, Epidemic.
Still relevant music of the Soviet cinema. Songs performed by Mikhail Boyarsky, Andrey Mironov listen until now.
Vysotsky same - indeed, as a matter of course. Beyond time, beyond the ratings.

Stealhead

09-23-11, 05:37 PM

seen it, got it and got the music from it :salute:

good movie indeed

Did you know that the director is one of characters? I forget his name of the top of my head but he is bald.I read that the film got mixed reviews from Vets some liked it others disliked it because it showed them using pot but that surely is true I have read of it in books by Soviets vets that they smoked off duty sometimes some guys did. Others complained because the real unit did get into a large battle in 1988 but the film portrays as if they where forgotten about in real life they had the support of Mi24s and Su-25s the whole time the battle did last about 24 hours and they where greatly out numbered though.But that is Hollywood so to speak creative license.

What is the name of the "folksy" type music like this?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUU13d_9Mjs and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bANlOGu47CI here is another good one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8DdMG81EdU&feature=related

Also not to change the subject too much but how many of you guys watch Soviet films like "The Dawns Here are Quiet"(a great movie by the way)?

Obelix

09-25-11, 06:21 PM

What is the name of the "folksy" type music like this?
Music is called "folksy" was written because the folks, not one way or the author. The soldiers who served in Afghanistan, have composed many songs about the service in this country. "Blue Berets" brought the genre to the big stage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHirLlASkA0

In addition, we have a genre of "Russian folk song," which recently called the "drinking" - older people during gatherings at the table loves to sing in chorus. But this tradition gradually disappeared.:shifty:

Eichhörnchen

02-27-15, 09:59 AM

Thought I'd drag this very worthy thread out of the closet for a brush down. Listening again to Shostakovich's 10th: the best of them all in my view...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZbJOE9zNjw

CCIP

02-27-15, 10:29 AM

Well, since you dragged it out - last year I ran a bit of a blog with translations and videos :D

http://russongs.tumblr.com/archive

I'll get back into it once work lightens up a bit this year, but there's already a solid 50+ songs I have posted there :yep:

Eichhörnchen

02-28-15, 06:40 AM

I also found this old and very interesting thread by Kapitan while poking around back there: "Any one like Russian music?" http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=242302&postcount=1

Dmitry Markov

02-28-15, 10:20 AM

Talking about Shostakovich:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvZi8aFC4M

Yuri Gagarin's favorite song. It is Soviet Union at it's best. Seriously.

I love King Crimson too.

As for Soviet rock - try also Bravo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnkXkIbWmV8

And Autograpf of course (Soviet Genesis)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDm8nzO3iHE

New Collection - they made some interesting Steve Hackett-style music too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv2uzskTC0s

Sector Gaza - not something to be proud with but they were the top-selling band in 1991 and 1992 :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRgZHwvwFGY

Looking back , there were plenty of really interesting but less known musical stuff along with majors like Kino, DDT, Zoo and Aquarium who were widely advertised.