SH3 Commands for SH4

[Wreford-Brown]

I've just reloaded SH4 to give it another go (SH3 loading times are becoming outrageous!) and realised that the main thing that took me away from SH4 was that after a few years of playing SH3 I was struggling with the different key shortcuts.

Is there already a mod to change SH4 shortcuts to SH3 (F3 for periscope etc)? If not, is anyone interested in me releasing a mod (I've already adjusted my own install)?

It might even open SH4 up to more converts like me...

[irish1958]

WB,
There are several mods to import SH3 commands into SH4. In addition, SH3keys can be made to work with SH4, and Jimimadrid (?spelling) has an excellent program to re-do the commands.

[Wreford-Brown]

WB,
There are several mods to import SH3 commands into SH4. In addition, SH3keys can be made to work with SH4, and Jimimadrid (?spelling) has an excellent program to re-due the commands.

Thanks Irish,

I've already modded my install and was wondering if I should release it but if it's already been done there's little point.

Interesting seeing the old 'Oberkommando der Kreigsmarine' screen when I remapped F8 - lazy dev team!

[Sailor Steve]

If you have both SH3 and SH4 (and I assume you do or you wouldn't be wondering) it's very easy to do yourself. Go into both games and open Data/Cfg/Commands, and compare them side by side. All you have to do is change the SH4 F-key commands to match the ones in SH3.

[edit] In fact a quick comparison on my part shows that they didn't even completely change it. They just put a semicolon in front of the SH3 commands and replaced them with the new ones. All you have to do is erase the SH4 commands and remove the semicolons from the other ones.

SH3:

[Cmd9]
Name=User_free_camera
Ctxt=1,2,9
MnID=0x3F02000B
Key0=0x7B,,"F12"
Key1=0x7B,c,""
Key2=0x7B,s,""

SH4:

[Cmd9]
Name=User_free_camera
Ctxt=1,2,9,11
MnID=0x3F02000B
Key0=0x7A,,"F11"
Key1=0x7A,c,""
Key2=0x7A,s,""

;Key0=0x7B,,"F12"
;Key1=0x7B,c,""
;Key2=0x7B,s,""

All you have to do in each case is delete this part:

Key0=0x7A,,"F11"
Key1=0x7A,c,""
Key2=0x7A,s,""

And remove the semicolons from in front of this section:

;Key0=0x7B,,"F12"
;Key1=0x7B,c,""
;Key2=0x7B,s,""

Them move the section up so it looks like the SH3 version.

[Wreford-Brown]

Thanks Steve, but I've already done it and was seeing if there's anyone who wanted me to upload it. If there are already versions out there, there's no need for me to flood the market and, as I'm new to SH4 modding, I don't want to step on any of the modders toes over here.

If you just make the changes straight from SH3 to SH4 you end up with some strange results, such as F8 taking you to the old 'Oberkommando der Kreigsmarine' screen so I've had to do a littled manual remapping. I've also changed the TC button so you can use '*' to increase TC rapidly, 'Enter' to return to TC x1 and changed fire to 'Ctrl-Enter' - I think these were all GWX initiatives but they make good sense.

It's also a lot easier to use WinMerge than manually run through the files :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

I've already done it and was seeing if there's anyone who wanted me to upload it.
Oops. Missed that part. :oops:

I thought that RFB already did that, but I've only played the U-boat side recently so I couldn't be sure. Sorry.

[White Owl]

...'Enter' to return to TC x1...

I first started playing SH4 with Webster's Game Fixes Only mod package, which changes the enter key to cancel time compression and go to x1 normal time. Now my reflexes are permanently trained to smack the enter key the very instant that anything changes on the screen. I'm like a monkey in a lab somewhere, hitting the right button to get a treat. :rotfl2: