Mel Gibson film about Jewish hero draws criticism

[ZeeWolf]

Why make a movie about a Jewish myth when he already made a movie
about the Jews greatest hero?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/09/us-melgibson-idUSTRE7884PD20110909

[CCIP]

In fact why make movies at all?

[Sailor Steve]

What makes you think Judas Maccabeus is a myth?

[Torplexed]

I wonder if this movie will just end up being a Judean version of Braveheart? :hmmm:

However, should the movie end with Mel routing the armies of the Seleucid Empire in a climatic battle scene involving a super-charged V-8 interceptor, I'm there with popcorn. :O:

[ZeeWolf]

What makes you think Judas Maccabeus is a myth?

Well the main reason is he is not in the canonized scriptures.
And the second is modern Jews have a history making things up.

[ZeeWolf]

I wonder if this movie will just end up being a Judean version of Braveheart? :hmmm:

However, should the movie end with Mel routing the armies of the Seleucid Empire in a climatic battle scene involving a super-charged V-8 interceptor, I'm there with popcorn. :O:

did you see Apocalypto? It's great man

[MH]

And the second is modern Jews have a history making things up.

Jesus being the best ones of then all.:rotfl2:

[ZeeWolf]

Jesus being the best ones of then all.:rotfl2:

I said the modern Jews. The ones who survived the Roman slaughter.
You know the ones the Lord kick out of Israel and who made up the
nonsense they call "Takum Olam" and became so holy they can judge
the Law of Moses. Certainly not the ones who where once intrusted
with the very words of God, and worshiped at the Temple, that would be
ridicules to include them. :DL

[MH]

I said the modern Jews. The ones who survived the Roman slaughter.
You know the ones the Lord kick out of Israel and who made up the
nonsense they call "Takum Olam" and became so holy they can judge
the Law of Moses. Certainly not the ones who where once intrusted
with the very words of God, and worshiped at the Temple, that would be
ridicules to include them. :DL

Thnx for correction.
WTH do you think you are to judge?:haha:

[ZeeWolf]

Thnx for correction.
WTH do you think you are to judge?:haha:

you're welcome

Your judge is Moses like the Lord said.

[joegrundman]

Rabbi Marvin Hier of Los Angeles' Simon Wiesenthal Center called Gibson's involvement, "simply an insult to Jews."

this sort of thing annoys me. you hear this same formulation all the time from "Muslim community leaders" who decide they have the right to say what is or is not an insult to the entire community, and how muslims do or should feel on any given issue. It's a repulsive part of modern discourse.

Here it is a rabbi deciding for himself to speak for all jews on the matter of whether they should be offended (and if in fact he carefully expressed it as his own opinion, then it is not how it is being presented here).

Gibson makes a film about Judas Maccabee and that is somehow an insult? How so? What insulting thing does this act say? Sounds more like a high-profile act of public contrition to me.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing men in skirts routing the English invaders out of Jerusalem

[MH]

this sort of thing annoys me. you hear this same formulation all the time from "Muslim community leaders" who decide they have the right to say what is or is not an insult to the entire community, and how muslims do or should feel on any given issue. It's a repulsive part of modern discourse.

Here it is a rabbi deciding for himself to speak for all jews on the matter of whether they should be offended (and if in fact he carefully expressed it as his own opinion, then it is not how it is being presented here).

Gibson makes a film about Judas Maccabee and that is somehow an insult? How so? What insulting thing does this act say? Sounds more like a high-profile act of public contrition to me.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing men in skirts routing the English invaders out of Jerusalem

You should add Vatican moaning about some other movies-just for PC.

B.W
I always enjoyed Mel Gibson's movie's.
His nutty roles in particular.

[Tribesman]

Wow the jew hating holocaust denying "christian" genius is frothing again.
I Stormfront off line again?

[MH]

Your judge is Moses like the Lord said.

cool-then we are set.
Unless of course for some reason a view of your beloved herr Luther appeals to you more than judgment of some greatest Jewish theologians.:03:

[joegrundman]

You should add Vatican moaning about some other movies-just for PC.

B.W
I always enjoyed Mel Gibson's movie's.
His nutty roles in particular.


yes!

[Rockstar]

Well the main reason is he is not in the canonized scriptures.
And the second is modern Jews have a history making things up.

"modern Jews have a history of making things up"

Umm, news flash, Mel Gibson, NOT modern Jews, is making the movie using a story from the Catholic bible. ;)

[Tribesman]

Umm, news flash, Mel Gibson, NOT modern Jews, is making the movie using a story from the Catholic bible.
But the catholic bible is a form of media so its part of a Jewish conspiracy. Mel Gibson is also a Jewish conspiracy.
You brainwashed people just don't get it.:yeah:

[ZeeWolf]

But the catholic bible is a form of media so its part of a Jewish conspiracy. Mel Gibson is also a Jewish conspiracy.
You brainwashed people just don't get it.:yeah:

The bible is not one book. It is a set of sixty six separate books
And yes the Jewish myth about Judas Maccabeus is in the catholic
bible. But, so what, it's beside the point and of course you know
that.

[Sailor Steve]

Well the main reason is he is not in the canonized scriptures.
Actually he was until your beloved Martin Luther decided to remove certain books in 1534. This was supported by the Westminster Confession of 1647, and they Apocrypha were removed from the modern canon. There is every evidence that the apocrypha, especially Maccabbees, were accepted by early Christians.

And the second is modern Jews have a history making things up.
You need to show some actual evidence for that accusation.

Also, what is "canon" has changed several times over the centuries. On on hand it's possible that the councils were divinely inspired to remove books that were incorrect. On the other it is possible that they were operating according to their own preconcieved notions. There is no way to tell one from the other.

[ZeeWolf]

You need to show some actual evidence for that accusation.

Also, what is "canon" has changed several times over the centuries. On on hand it's possible that the councils were divinely inspired to remove books that were incorrect. On the other it is possible that they were operating according to their own preconcieved notions. There is no way to tell one from the other.

I already did that with "Tukom Olam"

I think you are mixing the temple dedication with the story of Maccabbees

[Sailor Steve]

And I think you're picking and choosing which books you want to be true.

[Krauter]

Steve, why do you even bother? You know he's not going to change..

[Dowly]

What on earth is "Tukom Olam"? Google only shows this thread. :DL

[Krauter]

:rotfl2:

[ZeeWolf]

And I think you're picking and choosing which books you want to be true.

Really, I think you are nit-picking because I might be right.
The books of the Christian bible are not the issue the account of
Maccabbees is. Are you a Christian btw

[razark]

Steve, why do you even bother? You know he's not going to change..
Sometimes a discussion is not about the people engaged in it. Sometimes it is more for the benefit of those observing it.

[MH]

What on earth is "Tukom Olam"? Google only shows this thread. :DL

It's Tikun Olam ....Kabalah and theaology.

[ZeeWolf]

What on earth is "Tukom Olam"? Google only shows this thread. :DL

then try this spelling Tikkun olam or this one Takum Olam

It's the "conspiracy" to "repair the world". After the rejection of the King of the Jews the Temple in
Jerusalem was destroyed(as Jesus said it would be). Then the Anti-Christ Jews (Modern Jews)
were slaughtered by the Romans and kick out of the land. Those few who survived were
cursed and scattered among the nations. And the welling up from their unbelief in Christ
they accepted the made-up doctrine they call "repairing the world".
You see, before Christ, the Jews where entrusted with the very words of God Almighty and
where meant to be a blessing to the entire world.
But once they rejected the one in whom God sent, Jesus the Christ, God entrusts them
with NOTHING!

[MH]

then try this spelling Tikkun olam or this one Takum Olam

You know ....according to kabbalah it is forbidden for idiots to study it because it might drive shallow person a bit off balance.:03:

[Sailor Steve]

Really, I think you are nit-picking because I might be right.
And I think you are accusing me of nitpicking because you don't have a real answer.

The books of the Christian bible are not the issue the account of
Maccabbees is.
As I pointed out, the Books of the Maccabbees were part of the Christian Bible until removed by someone who decided they shouldn't be. On the other hand, why are Ruth and Job in there? They both serve to tell lessons, but scholars have debated for centuries looking for any connection between them and the main books, and struggling to find reasons why they should be includded. Maccabbees actually has more relevance than either of them.

Are you a Christian btw
Used to be. Then one day I took a long hard look and realized that there was no evidence for any of it. Just faith, and for me that was no longer enough. I'm still looking for one single piece of evidence that there is a God, and not finding it.

[Tribesman]

But, so what, it's beside the point and of course you know
that.
So its in an old book which is an invention of the modern jews conspiracy who somehow time traveled back to before your gay lover had a tizzy and rewrote the book which he didn't rewrite as it is a modern jewish conspiracy which rewrote the book not some greek blokes who were roman and romans who were greek and were all probably Jewish and I bet Mel Gibson could do a nice screenplay if it wasn't for the marxist capitalist jews who run hollywood.

And I think you are accusing me of nitpicking because you don't have a real answer.

He does have an answer...its the jews, its always the jews:doh:

[ZeeWolf]

Used to be. Then one day I took a long hard look and realized that there was no evidence for any of it. Just faith, and for me that was no longer enough. I'm still looking for one single piece of evidence that there is a God, and not finding it.

Really sorry to hear that.
Are you sure it's evidence you're searching for or an excuse to indulge in what
the bible calls sin?

[ZeeWolf]

So its in an old book which is an invention of the modern jews conspiracy who somehow time traveled back to before your gay lover had a tizzy and rewrote the book which he didn't rewrite as it is a modern jewish conspiracy which rewrote the book not some greek blokes who were roman and romans who were greek and were all probably Jewish and I bet Mel Gibson could do a nice screenplay if it wasn't for the marxist capitalist jews who run hollywood.


He does have an answer...its the jews, its always the jews:doh:

Oh man! calm down Tribesman. You sound like you need a trip to the wailing
wall. Your acting like I kick your people out of the land. I deny that.

[Tribesman]

I deny that
How do you find the time?
I thought you was busy denying the holocaust:rotfl2:

[Krauter]

Sometimes a discussion is not about the people engaged in it. Sometimes it is more for the benefit of those observing it.

Yes but how can a debate actually move forward instead of engaging in arguments that chase tails when people fall back to the same illogical arguments that are not founded in truth or fact

[razark]

Yes but how can a debate actually move forward instead of engaging in arguments that chase tails when people fall back to the same illogical arguments that are not founded in truth or fact
It's not the moving forward that counts in those cases. It's the thinking it inspires in the observers, and the exposure of the strong and weak points of the two sides of the debate. If one side keeps falling back to the same undefendable point, let people see that side for what it is.

We don't hold presidential debates among candidates so that each can try to change the other candidates' minds.

[Krauter]

I'm not saying minds need to be changed among the "debaters". The minds that can be changed are those of, as you say, the observers, who draw their conclusions based on the arguments used, as well as how the debaters argue their points respectively.

All I'm saying is that, to me at least, Zeewolf has proven himself to be a consistent Nazi sympathizing, Jew hating, Holocaust denying person who is prone to racist and hateful messages as well as debasing those who present any logical data to counter his points.

The only consistent seam in his arguments that I can see is that we are all reading these, often misspelled, which makes finding them even more difficult, books the wrong way. Everyone. Except him...

There was a person on one of my sports teams who always spouted off and went crazy on everyone when he saw it in his mind that he was getting the short end of the stick. His only argument, all of the time was "You're all crazy/lazy/don't want to compete/stupid/retarded/etc/etc except me..

In my eyes, if you can't spot the crazy (as an example..) person in the room, yet you accuse all others in the room to be that person... you are probably that person..

[ZeeWolf]

Yes but how can a debate actually move forward instead of engaging in arguments that chase tails when people fall back to the same illogical arguments that are not founded in truth or fact

When you say "move forward" does that mean agreeing with accepted
point of view.

[razark]

I'll concede that, in this case (and over several threads), there is probably no more point to be made. It has been an interesting journey, though.

[joegrundman]

well Zeewolf is not just a nazi sympathiser (but maybe one too)

he seems to be strongly motivated by a medieval christian worldview, complete with its cosmic anti-semitism of Jews being a fallen people.

which i think is kind of interesting. is it a common view among those in his church? what is this church of his?

edit: just so you all know what my angle here is. I'm half jewish, from jews that fled to england from germany in 1936, and do not have any animosity towards either my jewish or non-jewish heritage

[ZeeWolf]

I'm not saying minds need to be changed among the "debaters". The minds that can be changed are those of, as you say, the observers, who draw their conclusions based on the arguments used, as well as how the debaters argue their points respectively.

All I'm saying is that, to me at least, Zeewolf has proven himself to be a consistent Nazi sympathizing, Jew hating, Holocaust denying person who is prone to racist and hateful messages as well as debasing those who present any logical data to counter his points.

The only consistent seam in his arguments that I can see is that we are all reading these, often misspelled, which makes finding them even more difficult, books the wrong way. Everyone. Except him...

There was a person on one of my sports teams who always spouted off and went crazy on everyone when he saw it in his mind that he was getting the short end of the stick. His only argument, all of the time was "You're all crazy/lazy/don't want to compete/stupid/retarded/etc/etc except me..

In my eyes, if you can't spot the crazy (as an example..) person in the room, yet you accuse all others in the room to be that person... you are probably that person..

The truth has always been the enemy the coward the traitor and the phony. And you are proof of that fact.

[Krauter]

I'll concede that, in this case (and over several threads), there is probably no more point to be made. It has been an interesting journey, though.

I'd agree with there being no point to be made. But earnestly, I find these past few threads are makign me more and more disgusted with subsimand pushing me further and further away.

The truth has always been the enemy the coward the traitor and the phony. And you are proof of that fact.

And it has amazed me to this point that Neal, the other mods or the community puts up with, pardon my language, **** you spew from your mouth. Honestly, just close it and spare us the agony of having to listen to the crap you throw around. None of your posts are based in fact, nor are they in the spirit subsim stands for, mainly that of a respectful community.

Honestly you can F right off and shove your Jew hating, Holocaust denying conspiracies right up your ass till they tickle your throat.

[Sailor Steve]

Really sorry to hear that.
Are you sure it's evidence you're searching for or an excuse to indulge in what
the bible calls sin?
You said you wondered if I'm afraid you might be right. I'm not an atheist, nor do I deny God because I know there's a chance the Christians might be right. The problem is that there's an equal chance that the Jews might be right. Or the Muslims. Or the atheists. There is no way of knowing, and no evidence one way or the other.

Have you ever considered the possibility that you might be wrong? If not, why? Are you the one who's afraid?

As to indulging in "sin", I'm actually not much different than I was when I was a practicing Christian. That said, the only real sin I see is harming other people or preventing them from practicing what they believe. As long as they're not hurting anyone else then I say live and let live. You are very good at turning discussions away from yourself, so I'll ask you: Do you practice the Golden Rule when it comes to people who don't think the way you do? The things people say about you are based, not on the fear that you're right, but on the things you say about others. Are the supremacist accusations true? Do you think America should be only for white people? Do you believe that most of the evils of the world are a Jewish conspiracy? What do you really think?

[ZeeWolf]

I'd agree with there being no point to be made. But earnestly, I find these past few threads are makign me more and more disgusted with subsimand pushing me further and further away.



And it has amazed me to this point that Neal, the other mods or the community puts up with, pardon my language, **** you spew from your mouth. Honestly, just close it and spare us the agony of having to listen to the crap you throw around. None of your posts are based in fact, nor are they in the spirit subsim stands for, mainly that of a respectful community.

Honestly you can F right off and shove your Jew hating, Holocaust denying conspiracies right up your ass till they tickle your throat.

Look I do not know a single American that does not think you spineless
Canadian liberals are nothing but pussys. Pulled around, on your knees by
those very same traitors that have this whole world in near total financial collapse.
And all you can piss and moan about "Racist, Bigot, Homophobia, Holocaust
deniers" and on and on. But once your phony liberal Government can no
longer wet nurse you, you'll wee weeing "Why Me?" You guys will never fight for
anything except the "Right" to shove things up each others rectum.
So the hell with you and all you're willing to fight for - which is nothing.

.

[Dowly]

^ Priceless :rotfl2:

[Krauter]

That's it, show the entire world what you've been thinking up to now. Show us what the real Zeewolf is like so that we can finally get a good judge of character on you.

[ZeeWolf]

That's it, show the entire world what you've been thinking up to now. Show us what the real Zeewolf is like so that we can finally get a good judge of character on you.

What's that queer code for wanting to see me naked

[Krauter]

What's that queer code for wanting to see me naked

So it'd seem your projecting things that you worry others of seeing in you? Or maybe you're just hopelessly homophobic..

What else have you got?

[ZeeWolf]

So it'd seem your projecting things that you worry others of seeing in you? Or maybe you're just hopelessly homophobic..

What else have you got?

What you really what your not getting - from this guy

[Egan]

Watch yourself Krauter, he'll be demanding you sew a yellow mapleleaf to your jacket soon.

I think he just wants a kiss.

[Krauter]

Cause you know the Canadians are out to cover the world in Maple Syrup and any who don't follow our ideology will be pelted with pucks until he or she submits. :arrgh!:

[ZeeWolf]

Watch yourself Krauter, he'll be demanding you sew a yellow mapleleaf to your jacket soon.

I think he just wants a kiss.

How stupid does a guy have to be to jump in the middle of this

[Egan]

Cause you know the Canadians are out to cover the world in Maple Syrup and any who don't follow our ideology will be pelted with pucks until he or she submits. :arrgh!:

Well you Dastardly Canadians did secretly start WW2 to sell extra Brian Adams albums....We all know Teh TROOF!

[Highbury]

We said sorry eh!

[Krauter]

Well you Dastardly Canadians did secretly start WW2 to sell extra Brian Adams albums....We all know Teh TROOF!
:o HE KNOWS TOO MUCH
:nope: Where the heck is my hockey stick?

Edit: Dang, Stephen Harper's got it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2N6d1ljlYI

[Tribesman]

I think he just wants a kiss.
Is there room for Krauter in the closet with Zeewolf and Martin though?
Maybe her needs more room
Closets are are Jewish conspiracy and Zeewolf is just begging to get out into the living room:yeah:

[Egan]

How stupid does a guy have to be to jump in the middle of this

Yeah, your right. I'll be crying myself to sleep tonight after that put down.

[Dowly]

Well you Dastardly Canadians did secretly start WW2 to sell extra Brian Adams albums....We all know Teh TROOF!

Don't forget Justin Bieber! :O:

[Highbury]

Don't forget Justin Bieber! :O:

That is just revenge for Miley Cyrus

[Dowly]

That is just revenge for Miley Cyrus

:DL Fair enough

[Krauter]

That is just revenge for Miley Cyrus

We still get the upper hand with Celine Dion :D

[razark]

We still get the upper hand with Celine Dion :D
Isn't that a war crime?

[Highbury]

We still get the upper hand with Celine Dion :D

Now this thread has truly hit rock bottom... didn't we let Vegas keep her?

[Krauter]

Isn't that a war crime?
:rotfl2:

[ZeeWolf]

Is there room for Krauter in the closet with Zeewolf and Martin though?
Maybe her needs more room
Closets are are Jewish conspiracy and Zeewolf is just begging to get out into the living room:yeah:

Why are you so interested what I have hanging in my closet - uhmm rabbi

[Egan]

Personally, I think the truth is closer to this collection of superduper supermen! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QATSbEK5muQ)

Anyway, I must dash, I'm going to a meeting of the Association of Gay European Militant Atheist Communists tonight and we're going to be discussing the best way to subvert all those god fearing Americans. Even better, Woody Allen is going to explain to us the Zionist subtext of Annie Hall and how we can take over the world by pretending to me spectacle wearing neurotics! Going to be good! :up:

[Tribesman]

Why are you so interested what I have hanging in my closet
Hanging in your closet?
So is that gaybondage you are into or are you more of a stephen milligan.
Yeah probably a right milligan, I bet you add extra excitement to your naughtyness by using Jaffa oranges
The truth will always out, nazis are just soooooo closeted:rotfl2:

[Krauter]

Personally, I think the truth is closer to this collection of superduper supermen! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QATSbEK5muQ)



:har: Love it!

[MH]

Why are you so interested what I have hanging in my closet - uhmm rabbi

Very kinky.
Did you just swallow?

[ZeeWolf]

Very kinky.
Did you just swallow?


the foreskin - rabbi

[MH]

the foreskin - rabbi

Good...from now on you are "ZeeForeskinMan".

[ZeeWolf]

Good...from now on you are "ZeeForeskinMan".

So that's how it works huh A queer from Canada whats to see me naked
and the queer Jews start to circle like man eaters :har:

[MH]

So that's how it works huh A queer from Canada whats to see me naked
and the queer Jews start to circle like man eaters :har:

What ever works for you...whatever works....
I admit your neural grid works in mysterious ways.:rotfl2:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PweKny9r_wU/SOBPB_rM-tI/AAAAAAAABbk/9IoZrhWj3o4/s200/homer-simpson-brain-scan.jpg

[Torplexed]

What ever works for you...whatever works....
I admit your neural grid works in mysterious ways.:rotfl2:

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Given the way this idiot spells we can't be sure if he's bashing the land of Canada or the land of Canaan. :O:

[ZeeWolf]

What ever works for you...whatever works....
I admit your neural grid works in mysterious ways.:rotfl2:

Yeah, how many little boys have you circumcised rabbi.
Could you please educate us on why rabbis use their teeth to circumcise
the little boys. And why they keep the little boys penis in their mouth until the bleeding
stops.
And do you deny the Jewish "conspiracy" to legalize sex with children?

[MH]

Yeah, how many little boys have you circumcised rabbi.
Could you please educate us on why rabbis use their teeth to circumcise
the little boys And why they little boys penis in their mouth until the bleeding
stops.
And do you deny the Jewish "conspiracy" to legalize sex with children?


OUCH

http://hugemistakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/babyhitler.jpg

[Dowly]

@ZW: You're a great example of what religion might do to a people. :haha:

[ZeeWolf]

@ZW: You're a great example of what religion might do to a people. :haha:

Yeah, religion with a backbone

[Dowly]

Yeah, religion with a backbone

:hmmm:

Impossible. Worms don't have bones. :know:

[MH]

Yeah, religion with a backbone

It seems you got back boned all right.

[ZeeWolf]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeeWolf View Post
Yeah, how many little boys have you circumcised rabbi.
Could you please educate us on why rabbis use their teeth to circumcise
the little boys And why they little boys penis in their mouth until the bleeding
stops.
And do you deny the Jewish "conspiracy" to legalize sex with children?



OUCH



Not much of an answer from one who knows full well this is fact

[ZeeWolf]

OUCH



It seems you got back boned all right.

Sparked some more fantasizing huh rabbi?

[Tribesman]

It seems you got back boned all right.
No, I think Martin let him down on that front, its why he is hitting on Krauter now.

[joegrundman]

this thread has become surreal

Zeewolf, you have the stench of the keelhauled about you

[MH]

Sparked some more fantasizing huh rabbi?

Actually if i could put my hands on you i would gladly nail you to something-upside down.:sunny:

[MH]

this thread has become surreal




Just don't say it went down the hill....:oops:

[ZeeWolf]

this thread has become surreal

Zeewolf, you have the stench of the keelhauled about you

Look, I did not start the personal name calling or the personal attacks.
So, if all you want to do is come and take their side, well I smell the
stench of a phony.

[ZeeWolf]

Actually if i could put my hands on you i would gladly nail you to something-upside down.:sunny:

Blood libel runs deep huh rabbi
How many little boys have you circumcised rabbi.
Could you please educate us on why rabbis use their teeth to circumcise
the little boys And why they keep the little boys penis in their mouth until the bleeding
stops.
And do you deny the Jewish "conspiracy" to legalize sex with children?

[joegrundman]

Look, I did not start the personal name calling or the personal attacks.
So, if all you want to do is come and take their side, well I smell the
stench of a phony.

phony???

it just gets weirder

what do you mean "blood libel runs deep"?

you say it like you know it's a libel - and therefore a lie - but you say it anyway

[Tribesman]

you say it like you know it's a libel - and therefore a lie - but you say it anyway
Do you really expect that nazi fool to make any sense?

[razark]

what do you mean "blood libel runs deep"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
He means you're part of the vast jewish conspiracy. Which, based on this thread, seems to include most of subsim.

[kiwi_2005]

This will be another braveheart, based on Judah Maccabee, this movie will be good if Mels sticks to his braveheart film making days - scottish rebellion/ the now Jewish rebellion. Judas was the leader of the Maccabean revolt against the Seleucid kings from 167 to 160 BCE. He kicks ass in the bible, a warrior of his time. I hope Mel makes this movie cause no other could do it better than him.

[ZeeWolf]

phony???

it just gets weirder

what do you mean "blood libel runs deep"?

you say it like you know it's a libel - and therefore a lie - but you say it anyway

Why do you ignore what MH said. Have you not read the filthy things
he posted and accusing me of.
The Jewish favoritism is obvious and completely undeserving.

[Dowly]

Which, based on this thread, seems to include most of subsim.

Actually, he thinks that Subsim is monitored by the Jews. :yep: (he mentiones it in a PM I have in my inbox)

[Takeda Shingen]

Actually, he thinks that Subsim is monitored by the Jews. :yep:

Oy vey!

[razark]

this movie will be good if Mels sticks to his braveheart film making days
If Braveheart is anything to go on, I'm worried about this film. If he is going to make a film based on a historical figure, he could at least learn about that person first.

[MH]

Why do you ignore what MH said. Have you not read the filthy things
he posted and accusing me of.
The Jewish favoritism is obvious and completely undeserving.

Get real - we trade with organs of little Palestinian boys.
Blood is passe=be progressive.

[ZeeWolf]

Actually, he thinks that Subsim is monitored by the Jews. :yep: (he mentiones it in a PM I have in my inbox)

Boy even PM means nothing when you corner MH with a couple of questions
that is a forbidden topic when it's not him making it in accusation.

[Tribesman]

Actually, he thinks that Subsim is monitored by the Jews.
But they do, they are everywhere its a global conspiracy.

Oy vey!
see....they are everywhere.


The Jewish favoritism is obvious and completely undeserving.
:har::har::har::har::har::har:

[ZeeWolf]

But they do, they are everywhere its a global conspiracy.


see....they are everywhere.



:har::har::har::har::har::har:

Your response would have us to believe that Jewish favoritism does not
exist.

[Dowly]

Your response would have us to believe that Jewish favoritism does not
exist.

Does it? If so, give us something else as proof than just your word.

[Krauter]

:rotfl2:

Wow I see this progressed nicely.

All is good then, I needed a good laugh tonight too :har:

[joegrundman]

Do you really expect that nazi fool to make any sense?

tribesman. maybe and maybe not.

as you know, anti-semitism has an ancient and well-developed corpus. and zeewolf's seems to be drawn strongly from the old era. the myth he just refered to - it seems somehow different from most you hear about from 20th century anti-semitism. anyway it's not the case that anti-semitism simply makes no sense, as if the mere random mutterings of a manic person. if it were the case it would never have been so dangerous.

in some ways it's an honor. how many times do you get to see overt anti-semitism shown to you and open to ill-tempered discussion? In my experience it generally lurks quietly and suddenly yaps at you from an unexpected direction.

i'm curious to know what it's background is. in his case, unlike the nazis, it seems very closely wrapped up in christianity, and as you know, christianity for much of its history was deeply anti-semitic. like how does he feel about other nazi signifiers - the paganism, the eugenics and racial purity, the belief in a totalitarian militarized society, and the nationalism?

i'm curious also to know whether this is part of his church or it's an online group or just his own reading. and if it is a christian anti-semitism thing - how widespread is this form?

anyway, fascinating as this unpleasant subject is, i have to get to bed. in the morning the thread will be locked and Zeewolf will probably be keelhauled. certainly brigged

see you all

[joegrundman]

Why do you ignore what MH said. Have you not read the filthy things
he posted and accusing me of.
The Jewish favoritism is obvious and completely undeserving.

am i obliged to be fair and balanced here, and give equal airtime and criticism to all opposing points of view?

i agree that some of your critics have pushed the boundaries of acceptable commentary

but don't get confused about me. i'm half-jewish. i don't sympathise with your viewpoint.

[Takeda Shingen]

:rotfl2:

Wow I see this progressed nicely.

All is good then, I needed a good laugh tonight too :har:

Ha. Only a member of the Jewish-Canadian-rainbow-gay-lesbian-liberation-front would say such a thing. We are on to you and your effeminate kvetching!

[ZeeWolf]

Look guys I do not visit this part of the forum often. But when I see
another thread dedicated at promoting the left's Golden Calf which
is Homosexuality I respond. I believe this issue is a destructive force
in this nation. The agenda behind it is the worst thing any decent man
or women could imagine. And I view it as a threat worse then the Arab
terrorists.

[Krauter]

Wait a second...

I just thought about something while I was away having homosexual thoughts about Zeewolf tied up in his closet...

If all the Moderators here are Jews... and HE is a Moderator.. wouldn't that make him a Jew :o

The plot thickens...

[ZeeWolf]

Wait a second...

I just thought about something while I was away having homosexual thoughts about Zeewolf tied up in his closet...

If all the Moderators here are Jews... and HE is a Moderator.. wouldn't that make him a Jew :o

The plot thickens...

Get off your knees Krauter, I never said ALL

[Tribesman]

If all the Moderators here are Jews... and HE is a Moderator.. wouldn't that make him a Jew
Its a conspiracy I tell ya. Zeewolf is really a jewish agent whose sole intention is to make nazi bigots look like brain dead idiots as part of their global agenda to errr.... what was it last ..oh yeah legalise pedos:yep:

[Krauter]

You never know, they could have you so drawn into the conspiracy that you don't even know you're a part of it. For all you know you could be the head Zionist Jewish Rabbi

[Tribesman]

For all you know you could be the head Zionist Jewish Rabbi
Don't mention head, it will get him all excited and he will want you on your knees again.

[razark]

Its a conspiracy I tell ya. Zeewolf is really a jewish agent whose sole intention is to make nazi bigots look like brain dead idiots as part of their global agenda to errr.... what was it last ..oh yeah legalise pedos:yep:
:o
So, that means that the Jewish Conspiracy is a Jewish Conspiracy?!?!

[Krauter]

Like Inception, but not really.

Were there any Jews in the production of that movie?

[razark]

Were there any Jews in the production of that movie?
Don't the Jews control the media, and therefore make ALL the movies?

[MH]

Look guys I do not visit this part of the forum often. But when I see
another thread dedicated at promoting the left's Golden Calf which
is Homosexuality I respond. I believe this issue is a destructive force
in this nation. The agenda behind it is the worst thing any decent man
or women could imagine. And I view it as a threat worse then the Arab
terrorists.

That because Jews want you to be buy screwing each other while we take over the world...
Hmm...that's sort of good idea:hmmm:

[ZeeWolf]

Don't you just hate that you guys. If I did not live in the good old USA
I would be arrested and brought before the hate group called the "Human
Rights Commission" and all this labeling and denouncing by you guys
would have me in real hot water. And maybe I would finally be cowed into
silence. Don't bet on it though. We Christians know about the laws in
Canada that make it a crime to be a "Racist, Bigot, Homophobia " and a
crime to preach a sermon against the sexual perversion and the like.
But we are not going to let that happen here with out one hell of a
knock down drag out fight. Something you "Subjects" refuse to do
or understand why we would even care - it looks like to me.

[ZeeWolf]

That because Jews want you to be buy screwing each other while we take over the world...
Hmm...that's sort of good idea:hmmm:

Hah! You can't even take over Israel how can you even think the Lord
would entrust you with the world.

edit: And the Lord will most certainly make liars out of all how spout "NEVER AGAIN!"

[Dowly]

It's hard to take you as a christian when you're spouting all this hate speech
around. :dead:

[MH]

Don't you just hate that you guys. If I did not live in the good old USA
I would be arrested and brought before the hate group called the "Human
Rights Commission" and all this labeling and denouncing by you guys
would have me in real hot water. And maybe I would finally be cowed into
silence. Don't bet on it though. We Christians know about the laws in
Canada that make it a crime to be a "Racist, Bigot, Homophobia " and a
crime to preach a sermon against the sexual perversion and the like.
But we are not going to let that happen here with out one hell of a
knock down drag out fight. Something you "Subjects" refuse to do
or understand why we would even care - it looks like to me.

To tell the truth...i don't understand this stupid laws.
I would just let you all talk.....

Hah! You can't even take over Israel how can you even think the Lord
would entrust you with the world

The lord don't like to spoil us.
Easy come easy go:har:

[Krauter]

^ This Edit: Not THAT ^... the one above that ^

:D

[ZeeWolf]

It's hard to take you as a christian when you're spouting all this hate speech
around. :dead:

Look Dowly it's non of your business what I am.

[Krauter]

Then why do you make it yours to know what others are?

[ZeeWolf]

Then why do you make it yours to know what others are?

Because of the Jewish "conspiracy"

[Dowly]

Look Dowly it's non of your business what I am.

You've stated it openly on a public forum as this is, of course I can criticize you
and question what you've said. It's that whole freedom of speech thingy you
so much love, you know, to allow you to spout that BS of yours.

Can't handle critisism? Too bad.

[Krauter]

Because of the Jewish "conspiracy"

Explain? Because going by you're logic I can say that I have a right to slap a random person on the street and when they ask me why I can do that to them but they can't, I can simply reply, "lollipop" and walk away.

[razark]

It's hard to take you as a christian when you're spouting all this hate speech
around. :dead:
+1!


Sadly, however, I have seen this type of "Christian" before.
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2009/07/westboropicture.jpg

[ZeeWolf]

Can't handle critisism?

:har:

You just taunt and betray. I call what you did a stab in the back concerning
that PM.

[ZeeWolf]

+1!


Sadly, however, I have seen this type of "Christian" before.
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/7/2009/07/westboropicture.jpg

Boy I really hit a nerve with you Jews didn't I

[Krauter]

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0909/anti-gay-demotivational-poster-1253329200.jpg

[MH]

Boy I really hit a nerve with you Jews didn't I


Did you?
You are tripping.
Do you really think that this pathetic Bull of yours hits a nerve.
Its clown entertainment at most.

[razark]

Boy I really hit a nerve with you Jews didn't I
Is your memory that short?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1746591&postcount=67

I think you hit a nerve with us humans.

[Dowly]

:har:

You just taunt and betray. I call what you did a stab in the back concerning
that PM.

I did left out the nasty bits from the PM. :O:

[ZeeWolf]

I did left out the nasty bits from the PM. :O:

LOOK YOU PEACE OF **** YOU POST THAT PM RIGHT NOW!

There is nothing in that PM that is nasty you *******ing little
PEACE OF ****!

YOU SNAKE IN THE GRASS SCUM!

.

[Krauter]

:o

Speaking of hitting a nerve..

[Dowly]

LOOK YOU PEACE OF **** YOU POST THAT PM RIGHT NOW!

There is nothing in that PM that is nasty you *******ing little
PEACE OF ****!


Well, as you ask so nicely. :O:

Hi Dowly,
I don't want to post anything the the Jews monitoring this site would
denounce as hate sites etc. But I will be glad to e-mail you links that
will help you understand my opinions.

Go here:
http://www.tanksimzw.com/
and email me (Reply to my publicly asked question for providing articles or videos, where he bases
his point of views)

PS. and it's "piece"

[razark]

LOOK YOU PEACE OF **** YOU POST THAT PM RIGHT NOW!

There is nothing in that PM that is nasty you *******ing little
PEACE OF ****!

Hey, there was a discussion about that. You might want to check your language before a moderator sees it. :03:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=187134
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=187129

[ZeeWolf]

Well, as you ask so nicely. :O:

(Reply to my publicly asked question for providing articles or videos, where he bases
his point of views)

PS. and it's "piece"

LET ME ASSURE YOU PEACE BETWEEN US WILL FOREVER BE ****!

[Dowly]

LET ME ASSURE YOU PEACE BETWEEN US WILL FOREVER BE ****!

I shall weep myself to sleep tonight knowing we can never be buddies. :cry:

Fudging heartbreaking, man! How could you do that! You monster! :wah:

[MH]

Someone has got very primal nerve system.
Cut the wire and ears fall off.

[Subnuts]

LET ME ASSURE YOU PEACE BETWEEN US WILL FOREVER BE ****!

Piece between us will forever be jews? :woot:

[Takeda Shingen]

I think that this has gone on long enough. In light of technicalities that are keeping this thread open and preventing certain infractions from flying, I am calling on the good members of the SubSim community to calm this one down on their own, at least for the time being.

Come on guys, we're better than this.

[Dowly]

Rgr that. Think he's dug deep enough hole for himself already, anyways. :salute:

[Onkel Neal]

Great, just great. Another thread locked.