U.S Postal Sevice to Close This Fall ?????

[yubba]

Finally ABC news reported something on Good Morning America, this mornig worth watching. Well this thread starts out as a question, so do your own homework, and if you don't like what the message is remember, you are the messenger you can either live with it or shoot yourself. More proof that Liberals can't even run a lemonaide stand. So how long has the Post Office been around ????? Seem's to me it started around Ben Franklins time, he was a great American, ah who am I kidding most people don't know who he is, or seem to care.:nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

The postal system will not close. It has run in the red for decades. It does not matter who is in office. Since the invention of email the USPS has struggled. The USPS will still be standing long after you and I are pushing up daisies. For now the fat will be trimmed and useless postal offices closed. Rain, sleet or snow you will see your mail in the mailbox. Even a few fliers ask for your vote from Obama.

[mookiemookie]

All I get is junk mail anyways.

This is just public leveraging from management for the inevitable union contract renegotiations. The unions will give up something and then life will go on as it has before.

[the_tyrant]

its not the liberals that killed it, its the internet
just think about this:

Within the last 10 years,
how many letters have you sent?
how many magazines have started to offer "electronic versions"?
how many times have you ordered something through traditional "mail order"?
how many offers did you get from banks, credit card companies, utilities companies offering to switch to paperless bills?

[joea]

its not the liberals that killed it, its the internet
just think about this:

Within the last 10 years,
how many letters have you sent?
how many magazines have started to offer "electronic versions"?
how many times have you ordered something through traditional "mail order"?
how many offers did you get from banks, credit card companies, utilities companies offering to switch to paperless bills?
Well traditional letters have gone but for mail order? You have heard of Amazon? People still buy books and dvds believe it or not. Paper magazines too.

I still have to send my doctor bills to my insurance company for reimbursement as well.

Letters yea no question who writes them anymore!

[the_tyrant]

Well traditional letters have gone but for mail order? You have heard of Amazon? People still buy books and dvds believe it or not. Paper magazines too.

I still have to send my doctor bills to my insurance company for reimbursement as well.

Letters yea no question who writes them anymore!

Well maybe i wasn't too clear with the mail order.
I remember a few years back, people got catalogs, and they would write a check and mail it to the company. You really don't see people doing that anymore.

Also, many sellers on E-bay/Amazon prefers UPS or Fedex over the postal system

[TLAM Strike]

Also, many sellers on E-bay/Amazon prefers UPS or Fedex over the postal system When I buy online I always use USPS if possable since they seem to have the best rates, especially when its a single small item shipped using 1st class mail (like $3).

[Takeda Shingen]

Well traditional letters have gone but for mail order? You have heard of Amazon? People still buy books and dvds believe it or not. Paper magazines too.

I still have to send my doctor bills to my insurance company for reimbursement as well.

Letters yea no question who writes them anymore!

That's pretty much it. Use of the internet has reduced physical mail traffic by between 25 and 35 percent. Personally, I haven't seen the inside of a post office in years due to the fact that I never send letters anymore and I pay my bills electronically. I use UPS for parcel delivery because the service is better. To echo Mookie, the only thing the USPS puts in my mailbox are circulars and credit card offers.

The Postal Service and it's problems are, by and large, a symptom of changing technology. Sorry to punch holes in you boogyman, Yubba, but you can't blame this one on your hated liberals.

[AVGWarhawk]

has reduced physical mail traffic by between 25 and 35 percent.

I would bet it is higher. 10 years ago I would need two books of stamps per month for bills, etc. Today, I use 1 stamp per month. Just as video killed the radio star, the internet killed the USPS.

[CaptainHaplo]

I would bet it is higher. 10 years ago I would need two books of stamps per month for bills, etc. Today, I use 1 stamp per month. Just as video killed the radio star, the internet killed the USPS.

Video never killed the radio star. Radio exists - both AM, FM and satellite. What they have done is become more responsive to their consumers. The TV - or MTV (where is the music in that anyway nowadays?) has done so only in some ways. Thus, both exist.

Electronic mail and other shipping providers have squeezed the USPS. The problem for the USPS is that, like any other governmental (or in this case, semi-governmental) agency, they (from the big picture, management position) do not see what they do as customer driven. Sure, your local postmaster may, but the ones who run the USPS into the ground don't. So, it has not adapted as it needs to.

Liberals did not kill the USPS, nor did Republicans, nor did unions (though unions do not help...). Government has put it on life support. But then again, it was a government abortion in a sense.

[Betonov]

Internet can only relay information. It cant deliver goods. And as long as there are at least two people on earth someone will want to send something to someone (quoting the dean of my faculty). Sending a small packet or greeting card between two people is still easier done by mail than curier services. Curier services don't have an office in every town. The postal service will never die. It will only adapt and streamline, shrink at worst.

[Sailor Steve]

More proof that Liberals can't even run a lemonaide stand.
This has nothing to do with Liberals or Conservatives. You need to get over your unreasoning bias and learn how to actually discuss things.

So how long has the Post Office been around ????? Seem's to me it started around Ben Franklins time, he was a great American, ah who am I kidding most people don't know who he is, or seem to care.:nope:
So can you actually tell me anything about him? Or is he just a name to you? :nope: Yourself.

[Platapus]

Sorry to punch holes in you boogyman, Yubba, but you can't blame this one on your hated liberals.

Oh yeah he can. That's what he does here. :yep:

[Oberon]

Oh yeah he can. That's what he does here. :yep:

I don't know whether to Godwin this thread or not...I think I'll let someone else do it, found a nice anti-communist poster from Germany which I think covers the usual rhetoric...either that or a McCarthy poster. :hmmm:

[gimpy117]

its not the liberals that killed it, its the internet


so wait? not everything is a liberal conspiracy?

[Torplexed]

so wait? not everything is a liberal conspiracy?

I guess that depends on whether Al Gore's goofy claim to have invented the internet is true. :D

[Oberon]

so wait? not everything is a liberal conspiracy?

Who told you that?

I bet it was those stinking Commie Liberals again!!!


Anyway, here's a random tidbit of info for you.

In 1959 the USS Barbero launched a missile with 3000 letters in it from off the coast of Florida to NAAS Mayport, Florida. It was the beginning of what would be a breakthrough in the delivery of mail, it was estimated at the time that "Before man reaches the moon, mail will be delivered within hours from New York to California, to Britain, to India or Australia by guided missiles. We stand on the threshold of rocket mail."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Missilemail.jpg

[Krauter]

Who told you that?

I bet it was those stinking Commie Liberals again!!!


Anyway, here's a random tidbit of info for you.

In 1959 the USS Barbero launched a missile with 3000 letters in it from off the coast of Florida to NAAS Mayport, Florida. It was the beginning of what would be a breakthrough in the delivery of mail, it was estimated at the time that "Before man reaches the moon, mail will be delivered within hours from New York to California, to Britain, to India or Australia by guided missiles. We stand on the threshold of rocket mail."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Missilemail.jpg

I could only imagine how dangerous that would seem to the Russians with all of those mail rockets flying about :haha:

[Rockstar]

so wait? not everything is a liberal conspiracy?


so wait? not everything is a conservative conspiracy?



Looks that way now, doesn't it? Seems the party sheep might actually have an opinion of their own. What about you?

[Penguin]

Liberal, conservative or Greenlandish: We know it is a conspiracy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpUqLjjKk4Y :o

And to break a lance for the USPS: In international comparison they still have reasonable pricing - especially when regarding the size of the US.

[nikimcbee]

Well, they better not close until I get my hat from Jim!:stare:

[Madox58]

Goverment run things don't get shut down.
They just get a bigger slice of taxpayers money.
:nope:
Or get combined into another agency.
What was the last goverment agency closed down completely?
:hmmm:
Pony Express?
Steve probably knows the answer to that from first hand experience.

[TLAM Strike]

Goverment run things don't get shut down.
They just get a bigger slice of taxpayers money.
USPS is not taxpayer funded. :)

[TLAM Strike]

Who told you that?

I bet it was those stinking Commie Liberals again!!!


Anyway, here's a random tidbit of info for you.

In 1959 the USS Barbero launched a missile with 3000 letters in it from off the coast of Florida to NAAS Mayport, Florida. It was the beginning of what would be a breakthrough in the delivery of mail, it was estimated at the time that "Before man reaches the moon, mail will be delivered within hours from New York to California, to Britain, to India or Australia by guided missiles. We stand on the threshold of rocket mail."

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Missilemail.jpg

The reason why mail delivered by SLCM never went beyond the test phase:
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http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5638/0834818.th.jpg
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/0834818.jpg/)

[Oberon]

The reason why mail delivered by SLCM never went beyond the test phase:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2086/0834821.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/0834821.jpg/)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5638/0834818.th.jpg
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/0834818.jpg/)

Can't be worse than the Royal Mail used to be... :03:

[Schroeder]

Can't be worse than the Royal Mail used to be... :03:
Yes, but at least the ROYAL Mail has an excuse to screw up ROYALLY.;)

[Oberon]

Yes, but at least the ROYAL Mail has an excuse to screw up ROYALLY.;)

Touché :up:

[Armistead]

I wish they would shut down, I get nothing in my mailbox that I care for, cept junk mail and bills.

[Task Force]

OH NO!!! If they close then who will deliver bills!