Help with Merchant Fleet mod

[theroc44]

Ok so i downloaded it and i understand how to install it. I just got a few questions since you guys already got it installed maybe you could help me.
Firstly the neutral ship skins for 1940 theres no date on them so i dont know which date in SHcommander date folder im supposed to putem in?
Secondly the CFG name list i got in the forum
as below where do i put that?
Thanks again everyone

T01A=Tanker
T01B=Tanker
T01X=Tanker
T02B=Tanker
T02X=Tanker
T03A=Tanker
T03B=Tanker
T03X=Tanker
T04B=Tanker
T04X=Tanker
T05B=Tanker
T05X=Tanker
T07B=Tanker
T08B=Tanker
T08X=Tanker
T09A=Tanker
T10A=Tanker
T10B=Tanker
T10X=Tanker
T13A=Tanker
T14B=Tanker
T15B=Tanker
T16A=Tanker
T16B=Tanker
T16X=Tanker
T17A=Tanker
T17X=Tanker
T18A=Tanker
T18B=Tanker
T18X=Tanker
T19A=Tanker
RP01A=Repair Ship
AK01A=Naval Cargo Ship
AK02A=Naval Cargo Ship
AK03A=Naval Cargo Ship
AM01A=Ammunition Ship
AO01A=US Oiler
AO02A=US Oiler
O01B=Ore Freighter
O02A=Ore Freighter
NRC=Rose Castle Ore Carrier
L01B=Heavy Merchant
M01A=Medium Merchant
M01B=Medium Merchant
M01X=Medium Merchant
M02B=Medium Merchant
M02X=Medium Merchant
M03A=Medium Merchant
M03B=Medium Merchant
M03X=Medium Merchant
M04B=Medium Merchant
M05A=Medium Merchant
M06A=Medium Merchant
M06B=Medium Merchant
M06X=Medium Merchant
M07A=Medium Merchant
M07B=Medium Merchant
M07X=Medium Merchant
M08B=Medium Merchant
M08X=Medium Merchant
M09A=Medium Merchant
M09B=Medium Merchant
M09X=Medium Merchant
M10A=Medium Merchant
M10B=Medium Merchant
M10X=Medium Merchant
M11B=Medium Merchant
M11X=Medium Merchant
M12B=Medium Merchant
M12X=Medium Merchant
M13A=Medium Merchant
M13B=Medium Merchant
M13X=Medium Merchant
M14B=Medium Merchant
M14X=Medium Merchant
M15A=Medium Merchant
M15B=Medium Merchant
M15X=Medium Merchant
M16B=Medium Merchant
M16X=Medium Merchant
M17A=Medium Merchant
M17B=Medium Merchant
M17X=Medium Merchant
M18B=Medium Merchant
M18X=Medium Merchant
M19B=Medium Merchant
M19X=Medium Merchant
M20B=Medium Merchant
M20X=Medium Merchant
M21B=CAM-Ship
M22A=Medium Merchant
M22B=Medium Merchant
M22X=Medium Merchant
M23B=Medium Merchant
M24B=Medium Merchant
M24X=Medium Merchant
M25A=Medium Merchant
M25B=Medium Merchant
M25X=Medium Merchant
M26B=Medium Merchant
M26X=Medium Merchant
M27B=Medium Merchant
M28B=Medium Merchant
M29B=Medium Merchant
M30A=Medium Merchant
M30B=Medium Merchant
M30X=Medium Merchant
M31B=Medium Merchant
M31X=Medium Merchant
M32B=Medium Merchant
M32X=Medium Merchant
M33X=Medium Merchant
M34A=Medium Merchant
M34B=Medium Merchant
M34X=Medium Merchant
M37B=Medium Merchant
M37X=Medium Merchant
M38B=Medium Merchant
M39A=Medium Merchant
M39B=Medium Merchant
M39X=Medium Merchant
M40A=Medium Merchant
M40B=Medium Merchant
Q01B=Medium Merchant
MLaunchB1=Motor Launch
MLaunchB2=Motor Launch
SLaunch01=Steam Launch

[VONHARRIS]

You have to copy and paste the list into the Englishnames.cfg in the C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Sea folder

I don't know about the neutral skins since I run only a fraction of the MFM and it doesn't contain the neutrals.

You might also want to know that the MFM takes a lot of memory recourses to run.

Good luck.

[theroc44]

You have to copy and paste the list into the Englishnames.cfg in the C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Sea folder

I don't know about the neutral skins since I run only a fraction of the MFM and it doesn't contain the neutrals.

You might also want to know that the MFM takes a lot of memory recourses to run.

Good luck.

Rgr that just CPY and PSTED it to the appropriate folder. Ive been waiting for help since i dont wanna install it till im 100% i have the correct installation method down. But im at least half way there. I got the mod in the JSGME folder waiting for me to fire it up. Do you know if the ship names get named thru commander? Because of the new ship types i hope it doesnt change that

[iambecomelife]

Ok so i downloaded it and i understand how to install it. I just got a few questions since you guys already got it installed maybe you could help me.
Firstly the neutral ship skins for 1940 theres no date on them so i dont know which date in SHcommander date folder im supposed to putem in?
Secondly the CFG name list i got in the forum
as below where do i put that?
Thanks again everyone

T01A=Tanker
T01B=Tanker
T01X=Tanker
T02B=Tanker
T02X=Tanker
T03A=Tanker
T03B=Tanker
T03X=Tanker
T04B=Tanker
T04X=Tanker
T05B=Tanker
T05X=Tanker
T07B=Tanker
T08B=Tanker
T08X=Tanker
T09A=Tanker
T10A=Tanker
T10B=Tanker
T10X=Tanker
T13A=Tanker
T14B=Tanker
T15B=Tanker
T16A=Tanker
T16B=Tanker
T16X=Tanker
T17A=Tanker
T17X=Tanker
T18A=Tanker
T18B=Tanker
T18X=Tanker
T19A=Tanker
RP01A=Repair Ship
AK01A=Naval Cargo Ship
AK02A=Naval Cargo Ship
AK03A=Naval Cargo Ship
AM01A=Ammunition Ship
AO01A=US Oiler
AO02A=US Oiler
O01B=Ore Freighter
O02A=Ore Freighter
NRC=Rose Castle Ore Carrier
L01B=Heavy Merchant
M01A=Medium Merchant
M01B=Medium Merchant
M01X=Medium Merchant
M02B=Medium Merchant
M02X=Medium Merchant
M03A=Medium Merchant
M03B=Medium Merchant
M03X=Medium Merchant
M04B=Medium Merchant
M05A=Medium Merchant
M06A=Medium Merchant
M06B=Medium Merchant
M06X=Medium Merchant
M07A=Medium Merchant
M07B=Medium Merchant
M07X=Medium Merchant
M08B=Medium Merchant
M08X=Medium Merchant
M09A=Medium Merchant
M09B=Medium Merchant
M09X=Medium Merchant
M10A=Medium Merchant
M10B=Medium Merchant
M10X=Medium Merchant
M11B=Medium Merchant
M11X=Medium Merchant
M12B=Medium Merchant
M12X=Medium Merchant
M13A=Medium Merchant
M13B=Medium Merchant
M13X=Medium Merchant
M14B=Medium Merchant
M14X=Medium Merchant
M15A=Medium Merchant
M15B=Medium Merchant
M15X=Medium Merchant
M16B=Medium Merchant
M16X=Medium Merchant
M17A=Medium Merchant
M17B=Medium Merchant
M17X=Medium Merchant
M18B=Medium Merchant
M18X=Medium Merchant
M19B=Medium Merchant
M19X=Medium Merchant
M20B=Medium Merchant
M20X=Medium Merchant
M21B=CAM-Ship
M22A=Medium Merchant
M22B=Medium Merchant
M22X=Medium Merchant
M23B=Medium Merchant
M24B=Medium Merchant
M24X=Medium Merchant
M25A=Medium Merchant
M25B=Medium Merchant
M25X=Medium Merchant
M26B=Medium Merchant
M26X=Medium Merchant
M27B=Medium Merchant
M28B=Medium Merchant
M29B=Medium Merchant
M30A=Medium Merchant
M30B=Medium Merchant
M30X=Medium Merchant
M31B=Medium Merchant
M31X=Medium Merchant
M32B=Medium Merchant
M32X=Medium Merchant
M33X=Medium Merchant
M34A=Medium Merchant
M34B=Medium Merchant
M34X=Medium Merchant
M37B=Medium Merchant
M37X=Medium Merchant
M38B=Medium Merchant
M39A=Medium Merchant
M39B=Medium Merchant
M39X=Medium Merchant
M40A=Medium Merchant
M40B=Medium Merchant
Q01B=Medium Merchant
MLaunchB1=Motor Launch
MLaunchB2=Motor Launch
SLaunch01=Steam Launch

You actually don't need to take this step - the game will run fine if you don't paste the names in - but it ensures that the correct names are used when a target is identified. IIRC, without this step the logs, etc will record that you sank a M40A instead of a medium merchant.

You can paste the skins in any SH3 Commander date folder you want; however, the 1940 skins are best used between Sept. 1939 and Dec. 1940 for historical accuracy reasons.

[theroc44]

after i installed the mod i got something from the protection program saying the SH3.exe was corrupted or something does that have something to do with the mod if not how do i disable the protection system anyidea?

[VONHARRIS]

Rgr Do you know if the ship names get named thru commander? Because of the new ship types i hope it doesnt change that

I think yes. I had no problem with that.

On the other hand I don't know anything about the corrupted SH3.exe file you mentioned. I haven't seen that problem ever before.

[theroc44]

well it crashed even after a fresh install with that mod and it worked fine with all my other mods active. I dunno whats causing the crash, i just know the in the details part its a sh3.exe crash meaning the game crashed. Im gonna read thru the whole thread all 65 pages lol and see if im doing something wrong. I didnt cpy and pste the list cause iambecomelife said it was un-necessary. My system should run it fine, i got enuff mem. I enabled it thru JSGME and put the skins in the dates folder of commander, dunno why it crashed.

[theroc44]

ok so i got it to load in musuem but, it took forever to load. It loads fast then right before it completes load like a half and inch on the red bar it looks like it freezes. I cntrl-alt-deleted it a few times cause i thought it froze but when i did it for the museum i was reading something and i left it at the same load. After 15 mins it loaded the musuem. Im assuming that after the 4 gb patch perhaps thats what its gonna take to load it. I havent tested it yet but im gonna give it a swing now before i head to sleep. Im also gonna try and load sh3 twice to improve its function. Lets ya know how it turns out.

[VONHARRIS]

Best of luck!

[Sailor Steve]

Do you know if the ship names get named thru commander? Because of the new ship types i hope it doesnt change that
I think I just mentioned this, and right after one of your own posts. Oh yes, here it is:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1739245&postcount=12

I also mentioned my Ship Names mod, which adds several thousand new names, most of them specifically for the MFM.

So the answer is yes, it only works through Commander.

[iambecomelife]

ok so i got it to load in musuem but, it took forever to load. It loads fast then right before it completes load like a half and inch on the red bar it looks like it freezes. I cntrl-alt-deleted it a few times cause i thought it froze but when i did it for the museum i was reading something and i left it at the same load. After 15 mins it loaded the musuem. Im assuming that after the 4 gb patch perhaps thats what its gonna take to load it. I havent tested it yet but im gonna give it a swing now before i head to sleep. Im also gonna try and load sh3 twice to improve its function. Lets ya know how it turns out.

Unfortunately there's no cure for the slow museum load. I have a strong system and on a good day I wait maybe 3-4 minutes for museum.

Make sure not to scroll too quickly through the ships when museum does load; if you do, there is a risk of CTD.

[iambecomelife]

well it crashed even after a fresh install with that mod and it worked fine with all my other mods active. I dunno whats causing the crash, i just know the in the details part its a sh3.exe crash meaning the game crashed. Im gonna read thru the whole thread all 65 pages lol and see if im doing something wrong. I didnt cpy and pste the list cause iambecomelife said it was un-necessary. My system should run it fine, i got enuff mem. I enabled it thru JSGME and put the skins in the dates folder of commander, dunno why it crashed.

How many units in total is your game using? On installations with more than about 250-300 vehicles you will experience problems regardless of how good your computer's "horsepower" is. Particularly corrupt saved games and crashes during campaign. The MFM plus GWX is fairly stable, but if you add several dozen more ships/planes on top of that you can get into trouble.

[theroc44]

How many units in total is your game using? On installations with more than about 250-300 vehicles you will experience problems regardless of how good your computer's "horsepower" is. Particularly corrupt saved games and crashes during campaign. The MFM plus GWX is fairly stable, but if you add several dozen more ships/planes on top of that you can get into trouble.


Yea it gets right up to like a half inch before load and it freezes. Im gonna check now how many units i got. Should i dl the lite version or remove some from the main version? If so how many should i have? And which ones should i remove, like which are the best units to keep etc..

[theroc44]

i got 329 ships of those 7 are icebergs as of right now with the MFM added and q-ship.

[theroc44]

this mod has given me such a hardtime :nope: im seriously thinking of dropping down a elevator shaft hard drive and all.

[theroc44]

well after 14 hours and multiple installs i finally got it to run. Its a miracle but is it stable? I dont think so, upon entering campaign its slow like molases. Gotta wait an additional few minutes for the game to "catch up". So i reloaded it twice to confirm it will run and it did. Now im busy attaching names to the ships for Commander. ohh and i still didnt even try it with stnaz,wil,ships. I know thats gonna be fun.

[Sailor Steve]

Now im busy attaching names to the ships for Commander.
How exactly? Everything is included in the mod.

[theroc44]

How exactly? Everything is included in the mod.


The extra file that Jim made, doesnt matter i CTD three times running the MFM its been offcially retired.

[theroc44]

does anyone have the most recent version link for the merchant fleet mod lite. I wanna try that and see if it makes a difference.

[VONHARRIS]

Instead of trying to load the whole of the MFM , even the lite version, try to add ships manually one by one.
In that way you will be able to play the game with some ships of the MFM without CTDs.
This procedure has worked fine with my PC.

If you have the GWX then disable the merged campaign option to save up mamory space.

[theroc44]

Instead of trying to load the whole of the MFM , even the lite version, try to add ships manually one by one.
In that way you will be able to play the game with some ships of the MFM without CTDs.
This procedure has worked fine with my PC.

If you have the GWX then disable the merged campaign option to save up mamory space.


The merged campaign is a good idea i was holding off on that cause i didnt want to turn it off. But you gotta make some concessions here and there. Im trying to be greedy with my 32bit vista:damn: Been fooling with the MFM for over 15 hours now i can safely say. Im almost there in getting it stable.

[frau kaleun]

The merged campaign is a good idea i was holding off on that cause i didnt want to turn it off. But you gotta make some concessions here and there. Im trying to be greedy with my 32bit vista:damn: Been fooling with the MFM for over 15 hours now i can safely say. Im almost there in getting it stable.

The only reason you would ever need the Merged Campaign enabled is if you are patrolling in more than one major theater of operations during the same patrol and want traffic to appear in both/all theaters. Unless you are doing some very long, very unusual patrols on a regular basis, having the MC enabled all the time is just a waste of system resources that can be put to better use elsewhere.

[theroc44]

The only reason you would ever need the Merged Campaign enabled is if you are patrolling in more than one major theater of operations during the same patrol and want traffic to appear in both/all theaters. Unless you are doing some very long, very unusual patrols on a regular basis, having the MC enabled all the time is just a waste of system resources that can be put to better use elsewhere.

Yea ive been doing some crazy patrols lol not realistic i know but im going med to atlantic and back. I love running thru gilbratar, its fine now in 41 but i dunno if ill be doing it later. But alas it doesnt matter had to disbale it for other mods memory space. Im trying to get a stable monster modded SH3. Its a big pain in the rear.

[Fish In The Water]

Instead of trying to load the whole of the MFM , even the lite version, try to add ships manually one by one.
In that way you will be able to play the game with some ships of the MFM without CTDs.
This procedure has worked fine with my PC.

If you have the GWX then disable the merged campaign option to save up mamory space.

Good advice...

Especially if you have limited resources, then this is definitely the way to go. Plus, it also has the advantage of allowing limited stability tests - before you get too many hours invested in a project that might never float. :up: