Post your highest patrol tonnage scores here,WITH evidence

[Paul Riley]

I thought we ought to have a place to display our highest patrol tonnage scores,and to provide evidence to back up our claims :smug:
Right,i'll begin.
As some of you know my last patrol was magnificent (in my opinion at least),sinking 10 merchants and HMS Nelson for a grand total of 68.056 tonnes.By far the most outstanding performance of my life!
And the evidence:
http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae314/Paul_Riley_UK/SH3%20Screenshots/picture013.jpg

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae314/Paul_Riley_UK/SH3%20Screenshots/picture014.jpg

Lets see what you've got :arrgh!:

[SubConscious]

Just my $0.02: This should be qualified by realism settings. Perhaps taking the total tonnage and multiplying it by the realism percent would level the playing field a bit.

[Miltiades]

Just my $0.02: This should be qualified by realism settings. Perhaps taking the total tonnage and multiplying it by the realism percent would level the playing field a bit.

only you can't prove the realism settings.

[SubConscious]

only you can't prove the realism settings.

I think the honor system would suffice. After all, we're all Kaleuns here, bound by oath to serve, protect, and give our undying allegiance to Jimbuna. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

They used to have 'Tonnage Competitions' at the Ubi forums, as well as a 'Million Tons Club'. That was the main reason I stopped going there.

[Miltiades]

They used to have 'Tonnage Competitions' at the Ubi forums, as well as a 'Million Tons Club'. That was the main reason I stopped going there.
I find it more rewarding to survive a campaign starting in 39 than having the best tonnage....

But then again I only survived a campaign once.

[HW3]

The UBI SH3 forum is all but dead now. Their lucky if they have more than 1 post a day in it now.

[desirableroasted]

You have to decide if you are going to play it as a game (rack up points) or play it as a sim (play the cards you are dealt).

If I wanted to cash in 150K -- 200K tons a patrol, I'd get myself a VIIB (of course, I could mod and get myself something nicer), go to the Happy Hunting grounds that we all know of. I wouldn't waste a torpedo on anything less than a Large Merchant. I would spend 180 days at sea, up in the AMs or down in Tanker Alley or outside Gibraltar just waiting for big targets. Heck, I would wait for deck gun weather... pure gravy. And I would pot 100K plus every patrol, at least into 1941.

But if you play it as a sim, I think (and its just me) you go where you are sent. Endure the weather. Try to sink what comes by. Test your skills against the randomness of the sim (and GWX).

Playing it as a sim, I have spent 50 days at sea without seeing a target. I've also done a 12 day patrol with over 100K. You just never know.

But, to close this, I think any old hand could go out there and give you 100k patrols without blinking. If they play that way.

[flag4]

...im of the opinion now that tonnage does'nt matter, what gets me excited/worried/anxious/thrills/boredom levels going is how can i get my crew home again with moderate tonnage whilst having engaged in a serious attack - maybe sinking nothing but coming out alive.
if i sink one reasoanbly sized ship and get away with a serious pounding from above i have more enjoyement than at any other time - and this, i think comes from reading the history and the reality of that war.

reading the history is essential to understanding what i am 'playing' at here: immersion is all and reading is the bed rock of immersion for me.

i think my highest ever score was something like 30.000 tonnes in one patrol - but we were all dead on the next from Captains over confidence. i thought i was being clever by sinking one destroyer in the convoy and used all my torps to get him - i got him and cheered loudly when he went down burning. but in my zealousness i'd forgotton the other three that came after me some time later. i was destroyed all hands trying to surface. running out of battery power i went for surrender, but it was too late. i lost, possibly, the best most experienced crew id ever had in this game, and it was down to me.

in reality i think this must have been a regular occurance:

'A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.' Napoleon Bonaparte

[Fish In The Water]

...what gets me excited/worried/anxious/thrills/boredom levels going is how can i get my crew home again with moderate tonnage whilst having engaged in a serious attack - maybe sinking nothing but coming out alive.

I think this sums up the primary duty of any good captain. Damage the enemy to the best of your ability, and get your crew out alive. Anything else is just window dressing.

[FIREWALL]

Moderator please remove post

[theroc44]

last night on the norway invasion i sunk the nelson NPC and then on the way home i sunk the illustrious AC, in another task force. But before that i was bombed by 2 swordfish, i managed to shoot down one with the 3.7cm single shot flak. But the second one drop a bomb right on my flak gun killing all my flak gunners and injuring my Chief of watch. By far the most exciting SH3 patrol in 6 years.

[Sailor Steve]

As I've mentioned in the past, I spent some time playing Sid Meier's Pirates. I managed to turn the entire Spanish Main into the English main. There was not one Spanish port left in the entire Caribbean.

On level 3.




On level 4 I couldn't make it past the first month without losing my ship and my career.
:rotfl2:

[Fish In The Water]

last night on the norway invasion i sunk the nelson NPC and then on the way home i sunk the illustrious AC, in another task force... By far the most exciting SH3 patrol in 6 years.

Good job! :up:

[SubConscious]

I like to immerse myself in the game. I personally believe it cheapens the experience to play the game like it's a shooting gallery.

I tend to be a rather cautious person by nature, so I probably wouldn't have made a very good U-boat Kaleun in real life. I try to keep in mind that my decisions don't just impact my life, but the lives of young men who are counting on me to bring them home safely.

I think playing the game on the higher/highest realism settings has given me a greater appreciation and understanding for what the U-boatmen dealt with in WWII. They suffered something like 80% losses over the course of the war. In this light, survival is the exception.

Finding the balance between doing ones duty and trying to ensure the survival of the young men who comprise the crew and officers can be a challenge, but it's a wonderful challenge. I just thank heavens that it's just a game.

My father served aboard three US Navy destroyers in WWII from 1939 to 1945. The Hammann was sunk along with the Yorktown by torpedoes from a Japanese I-boat at Midway; the Bristol was sunk by a U-boat; and the Isherwood was struck by a kamikaze at Leyte Gulf. As a kid, I asked him why he didn't keep in contact with his friends from the Navy. His reply was "They're all dead."

I think about this when I play SH3/GWX.

[theroc44]

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My father served aboard three US Navy destroyers in WWII from 1939 to 1945. The Hammann was sunk along with the Yorktown by torpedoes from a Japanese I-boat at Midway; the Bristol was sunk by a U-boat; and the Isherwood was struck by a kamikaze at Leyte Gulf. As a kid, I asked him why he didn't keep in contact with his friends from the Navy. His reply was "They're all dead."

I think about this when I play SH3/GWX.

It brings me back to reality when i read about actual WW2 survivors and how scary it really was. You dad is a hero and we all owe him a debt. Its sad how few even think about WW2, but i always remember, its coulda turned out a whole lot different from where it finished. And if it wasnt for young americans and young brits we would be in a different world now.

[Paul Riley]

I just wish to mention here (for anyone that may be doubting my level of 'seriousness' towards the game) that I play with 85% realism having only map contacts and stabilize view 'on' ,I play the game like a true sim operating in the area BDU sent me and taking full precautions in all my actions,however after a few days in the assigned area and if there is no action then I usually assign myself new patrol zones,in no way do I play this game like a 'shooting gallery' ,no,what happened to me would have happened to anyone with any amount of aggression and initiative in them,you fortuitously encounter a large convoy containing a major battleship in a most random manner 'out of the blue',and you take your chances and attack them like a wolf,never letting them go!.
As I mentioned earlier,this was the only time I ever encountered a major warship and successfully destroyed it,and its instilled in me a great bloodlust now,just like the Viking berserkers i've read so much about hehehe :arrgh!:
I KNOW some of you will understand me here,if not,you'll know it when it happens,and its great!

"He who wants to be victorious on the sea must always attack!" ...not my words.

[theroc44]

its instilled in me a great bloodlust now,just like the Viking berserkers i've read so much about hehehe :arrgh!:
I KNOW some of you will understand me here,if not,you'll know it when it happens,and its great!

"He who wants to be victorious on the sea must always attack!" ...not my words.


Send'em all to the bottom Riley...Herr Kapitan

[Paul Riley]

Send'em all to the bottom Riley...Herr Kapitan

Thats the spirit son :up:

[GoDeep]

And if it wasnt for young americans and young brits we would be in a different world now.

* cough* And young French, Russians, Belgians, Dutch, Poles, Filipinos, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Chinese, Indians, Norwegians, Danes, Yugoslavians, Brazilians, Czechoslovakians, Greeks and many others who made contributions with either men or material... *cough* (Apologies if I overlooked some!)

Not trying to diminish the important role played by US and British forces, but many more nations fought and suffered on the side of the Allies in World War 2.

As to the shooting gallery vs. playing the game as a serious simulation discussion, I don't think it is really possible to play the game as a shooting gallery. If you treat the game like that, especially with GWX installed, you're going to end up very dead very quickly. :dead:
Sure, you can set the realism all the way down and that may be fun for a while. But I don't think that is where the heart of subsimmers is at. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but from the discussions I've seen here over the years, I think most of the active members are interested in the role of the u-boat in the Battle of the Atlantic. They are interested in what was possible historically, not what is possible in this simulation. They want at least a decent enough dose of realism. Shooting galleries are attractive to people who play other types of games, imho.

Speaking for myself, my current career is played at 59% realism. Why? Well, I like the eye-candy of the external camera, I like to get an overview of the mighty convoys as they make their way across the Atlantic. I want to see that majestic battleship. I am not using manual targeting, mainly because I wasn't feeling ready when I began this career but this is probably going to change.

Like Paul's encounter with the Nelson, it was possible to get lucky like that in real life. In my current career, I sank the "Warspite" at Narvik because it happened to pass by me at the right time. What sub commander could pass up a target of opportunity like that? The game can be challenging, interesting and frustrating all at the same time. You can be in terrible weather and just beyond your visible horizon, a task force or huge convoy might sail by unnoticed. Or there might be no traffic around for miles. Some patrols you get lucky, some patrols you don't. I've also had those patrols of weeks of bad weather with no traffic to be found.

If luck is on your side on a patrol though, I think you've earned the bragging rights. I think that's what this thread started out to be, really. Sub captains bragging about their most glorious moments. :Kaleun_Applaud:

[Paul Riley]

* cough* And young French, Russians, Belgians, Dutch, Poles, Filipinos, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Chinese, Indians, Norwegians, Danes, Yugoslavians, Brazilians, Czechoslovakians, Greeks and many others who made contributions with either men or material... *cough* (Apologies if I overlooked some!)

Not trying to diminish the important role played by US and British forces, but many more nations fought and suffered on the side of the Allies in World War 2.

As to the shooting gallery vs. playing the game as a serious simulation discussion, I don't think it is really possible to play the game as a shooting gallery. If you treat the game like that, especially with GWX installed, you're going to end up very dead very quickly. :dead:
Sure, you can set the realism all the way down and that may be fun for a while. But I don't think that is where the heart of subsimmers is at. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but from the discussions I've seen here over the years, I think most of the active members are interested in the role of the u-boat in the Battle of the Atlantic. They are interested in what was possible historically, not what is possible in this simulation. They want at least a decent enough dose of realism. Shooting galleries are attractive to people who play other types of games, imho.

Speaking for myself, my current career is played at 59% realism. Why? Well, I like the eye-candy of the external camera, I like to get an overview of the mighty convoys as they make their way across the Atlantic. I want to see that majestic battleship. I am not using manual targeting, mainly because I wasn't feeling ready when I began this career but this is probably going to change.

Like Paul's encounter with the Nelson, it was possible to get lucky like that in real life. In my current career, I sank the "Warspite" at Narvik because it happened to pass by me at the right time. What sub commander could pass up a target of opportunity like that? The game can be challenging, interesting and frustrating all at the same time. You can be in terrible weather and just beyond your visible horizon, a task force or huge convoy might sail by unnoticed. Or there might be no traffic around for miles. Some patrols you get lucky, some patrols you don't. I've also had those patrols of weeks of bad weather with no traffic to be found.

If luck is on your side on a patrol though, I think you've earned the bragging rights. I think that's what this thread started out to be, really. Sub captains bragging about their most glorious moments. :Kaleun_Applaud:
Amen to that.
Nothing wrong with a little basking in the sun while we can,before the storm erupts again :arrgh!:
In my particular case the Nelson encounter was totally spontaneous,I was about 300km west of France at the time waiting for traffic arriving from Gibraltar and I had no idea of their presence until I got a radio contact (I believe they departed Liverpool heading for Gibraltar) a few days prior,I then predicted their position for about 3 days from then and steamed into position,and they arrived as predicted down to the day.I took my chances,shadowed them until nightfall and descended on them with much fervor.It really was an epic moment,the sceenshots I posted dont really do what I experienced much justice to be honest.

Cheers.

[SubConscious]

its instilled in me a great bloodlust now,just like the Viking berserkers i've read so much about hehehe :arrgh!:

As a fellow aficionado of Viking sagas, you might recognize this:

"When the war-gods meet
to match their might
who can tell the bravest born?
Many a hero never made a hole
in another man's breast."

This seems to be appropriate for U-boat Kaleuns. ;)

[flag4]

I think the honor system would suffice. After all, we're all Kaleuns here, bound by oath to serve, protect, and give our undying allegiance to Jimbuna. :O:

BEWARE THE DESPOT by wich ever name he comes. ladies included.

[FIREWALL]

I think the honor system would suffice. After all, we're all Kaleuns here, bound by oath to serve, protect, and give our undying allegiance to Jimbuna. :O:

I am a positive person by nature and like to think the best of people here and else where.

Read my Post #11 Sadly it isn't going to happen and, I think it would make a Great and Fun Competition. :woot::up: but those Realism and Capt. log can be easily Edited before posting.

Now were back to the Honor system. I saw that in action and was thoroughly saddened.


This has probably been tried in the past and, beyond alot of memories.

But what the hay. Set it up in one of the Single Missions. Where all agree on Mission, The same Boat and year and, Same Realism settings.

I all can be done in Single Missions and Screenshot Tonnage to post here. And give a Starting and Ending time. Say 1 week for those with RL duties.

And give this Honor System a try. :sunny:

[theroc44]

* cough* And young French, Russians, Belgians, Dutch, Poles, Filipinos, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, South Africans, Chinese, Indians, Norwegians, Danes, Yugoslavians, Brazilians, Czechoslovakians, Greeks and many others who made contributions with either men or material... *cough* (Apologies if I overlooked some!)

Not trying to diminish the important role played by US and British forces, but many more nations fought and suffered on the side of the Allies in World War 2.



I didnt mean to leave anyone out, it was a WORLD war after all, no offense intended by leaving out the remaining allies, i was merely posting to what he said, sorry if left anyone out, my bad

[SubConscious]

I've read that the Poles suffered the worst - over 16% of their population was killed during the war. They were horribly persecuted by both the Germans and Russians.

Now that I'm pushing 50, I have a different view of the war. As a young man, it was easy to believe the history books and documentaries that vilified the Germans and Japanese. My thinking now is that the citizens of many countries suffered from the decisions made by their leaders, and from the consequences of believing the propaganda fed to them.

To me, the heroes are those few individuals who broke from convention and did what was right, recognizing that we're all on this Earth for a relatively short time and that life is precious. Whether saving another or showing mercy when it wasn't expected to me is a demonstration of what I believe is one of the most important qualities a person can possess: Compassion.

To clarify, I think there are situations in which a lack of compassion is warranted, particularly towards criminals.

Guess I've wandered completely off topic. Now back to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.

[Randomizer]

I suspect Paul started this thread as he was pleased taking advantage of a difficult target of opportunity and wished to share his experience.

Sinking an escorted battleship on the high seas and escaping is certainly a nice gaming accomplishment in SH3 at high realism levels so congrats Paul.

On the other hand as noted by others by implication or explicitly, these successes are relative and so just posting tonnages is not any sort of reflection upon how difficult, enjoyable or challenging a single patrol might be. With or without any evidence.

My all time greatest game patrol was in AOTD way back when it was new, with a January 1945 sailing and an allotted patrol area off the Western Approaches. Only sank two Liberty Ships (about 14k GRT) but also an escort carrier, cruiser and a couple of corvettes taken in self defence or as targets of opportunity and got back safely to Trondheim in late February damaged but alive. You could save AOTD in contact with the enemy and at one point spent over 20-hours evading counter-attacks. AOTD did not count warship tonnage but the warship score was high enough to be awarded command of a Type XXI. Was at sea in my shiny new boat when the war ended and those familiar with AOTD might recall the arrival screen, complete with kill banners (white for merchants, red for warships and blue for troop ships as I recall), bands playing and flags flying. Not like that at all after 6 May 1945. Sorry no evidence to show but of all the patrols in all the subsims I ever played since Red Storm Rising, that January-February Type VIIC patrol was the only one where the details have stuck so vividly.

I expect the reason why I am addicted to late war patrols in SH3 GWX is a desire to recreate that AOTD episode from some 15-years ago.

From a tonnage standpoint it was a pretty poor effort but that patrol stands out in my mind as the best gaming experience I have ever had. Bar none.

So I submit that the measure of a patrol is not tonnage sunk, difficulty or the slick screen shots but in how much enjoyment was derived from executing it. Good Show sinking Nelson, Paul. May it also be a highlight of your gaming experience.

[Fish In The Water]

@SubConscious: Really enjoyed reading your post. Shades of gray, compassion, couldn't agree more... :up:

[Paul Riley]

I suspect Paul started this thread as he was pleased taking advantage of a difficult target of opportunity and wished to share his experience.

Sinking an escorted battleship on the high seas and escaping is certainly a nice gaming accomplishment in SH3 at high realism levels so congrats Paul.

On the other hand as noted by others by implication or explicitly, these successes are relative and so just posting tonnages is not any sort of reflection upon how difficult, enjoyable or challenging a single patrol might be. With or without any evidence.

My all time greatest game patrol was in AOTD way back when it was new, with a January 1945 sailing and an allotted patrol area off the Western Approaches. Only sank two Liberty Ships (about 14k GRT) but also an escort carrier, cruiser and a couple of corvettes taken in self defence or as targets of opportunity and got back safely to Trondheim in late February damaged but alive. You could save AOTD in contact with the enemy and at one point spent over 20-hours evading counter-attacks. AOTD did not count warship tonnage but the warship score was high enough to be awarded command of a Type XXI. Was at sea in my shiny new boat when the war ended and those familiar with AOTD might recall the arrival screen, complete with kill banners (white for merchants, red for warships and blue for troop ships as I recall), bands playing and flags flying. Not like that at all after 6 May 1945. Sorry no evidence to show but of all the patrols in all the subsims I ever played since Red Storm Rising, that January-February Type VIIC patrol was the only one where the details have stuck so vividly.

I expect the reason why I am addicted to late war patrols in SH3 GWX is a desire to recreate that AOTD episode from some 15-years ago.

From a tonnage standpoint it was a pretty poor effort but that patrol stands out in my mind as the best gaming experience I have ever had. Bar none.

So I submit that the measure of a patrol is not tonnage sunk, difficulty or the slick screen shots but in how much enjoyment was derived from executing it. Good Show sinking Nelson, Paul. May it also be a highlight of your gaming experience.

Thanks :yep:
Yes,I took my opportunity and did my duty (so to speak).I merely wanted to express the feeling of pride and some pity (watching him go down without a fight) too at such an epic experience.It really was a highlight of SH3 for me,and probably wont experience anything like that for a long while yet.

[Jimbuna]

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[SubConscious]

@SubConscious: Really enjoyed reading your post. Shades of gray, compassion, couldn't agree more... :up:

:salute:

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks :yep:
Yes,I took my opportunity and did my duty (so to speak).I merely wanted to express the feeling of pride and some pity (watching him go down without a fight) too at such an epic experience.It really was a highlight of SH3 for me,and probably wont experience anything like that for a long while yet.
That's great, and warranted. The problem I had with the title was that rather than say "Wow! Isn't this cool. Look what I did!", it said "Brag about how good you are here! And prove it!"

Hence my original reply.

[Paul Riley]

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

BE EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

http://i983.photobucket.com/albums/ae314/Paul_Riley_UK/Images%20for%20Subsim/godzilla.jpg

[Paul Riley]

That's great, and warranted. The problem I had with the title was that rather than say "Wow! Isn't this cool. Look what I did!", it said "Brag about how good you are here! And prove it!"

Hence my original reply.

It didnt say brag about how good you are and prove it,it said post your highest patrol tonnage here.

[Paul Riley]

It didnt say brag about how good you are and prove it,it said post your highest patrol tonnage here.

If you are referring to my other thread it said 'I managed to sink HMS Nelson,my first EVER encounter with a battleship'

[Sailor Steve]

It didnt say brag about how good you are and prove it,it said post your highest patrol tonnage here.
Same thing. Also irrelevant, as there's nothing wrong with it. And I said nothing about your 'Nelson' thread. I've just had 30+ years of listening to gamers talk about how good they are, when I don't even like games. As I said, it's that kind of thread that drove me away from the Ubi forums all those years ago.

No problems. I'll just keep pretending I'm a real captain and slowly sail along one day at a time. And keep pretending I'm normal.

[JazzJR]

Maybe put this on the Turm of your Submarine. :D

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs46/300W/f/2009/204/d/a/hulk_angry_by_K_Scott_Hepburn.jpg

[flag4]

Same thing. Also irrelevant, as there's nothing wrong with it. And I said nothing about your 'Nelson' thread. I've just had 30+ years of listening to gamers talk about how good they are, when I don't even like games. As I said, it's that kind of thread that drove me away from the Ubi forums all those years ago.

No problems. I'll just keep pretending I'm a real captain and slowly sail along one day at a time. And keep pretending I'm normal.

...it is a game, it is not a game. it is a computer generated simulation. it is not, just, a computer generated simulation. i live in the percieved world. i do not want to, just, live in the percived world. I've just had 30+ years of listening to gamers talk about how good they are, when I don't even like games. and now i have to listen to another 30+ years of listening to gamers talk about how good they are - and i love games because they allow me to escape......into........my world.


"If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others."
— Philip K Dick

[theroc44]

this thread is in need of a deathblow, its totally way off topic lol

[Sailor Steve]

this thread is in need of a deathblow, its totally way off topic lol
It happens. It unhappens. Get over it.

[theroc44]

It happens. It unhappens. Get over it.

jeesz i was only joking

[Sailor Steve]

Well, it does happen. Threads wander all over the place, and usually find their way back again.

Sorry if my repartee wasn't up to my usual witty standards. We old guys get tired, you know.

[theroc44]

Well, it does happen. Threads wander all over the place, and usually find their way back again.

Sorry if my repartee wasn't up to my usual witty standards. We old guys get tired, you know.

its all good no harm no foul, i understand what you mean. Its true they do wander, i was just poking fun at that fact. Every forum in the world is like that. No problemo Steve :up:

[theroc44]

you got any idea how to change screenshot formats? My screenshots got changed and i dunno how to change it back. Your as good as anybody on the inner workings on this game.

[Sailor Steve]

Changed how, exactly?

[edit] Never mind, I just remembered your other thread. I'll try to answer it there.

[Paul Riley]

this thread is in need of a deathblow, its totally way off topic lol

I know,it seems everything I post somebody seems to have a grievance or problem with it.My original intention was to have a place for us (those that are bothered!,if not bothered don't reply to it,its that simple) to display our greatest patrol successes.For the life of me I cant imagine what the problem was.For some people its 100% sim while forgetting what the game is actually about,for others they prefer the action,the thrill of combat,and their mounting tonnage scores.I prefer the latter,most of us do if they were to be totally honest with themselves.Remember the real life tonnage kings?,they were also proud of their achievements.
Some people I guess can never be satisfied,there is always something to gripe about.

[Paul Riley]

jeesz i was only joking

'I' know you were only joking :sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

I know,it seems everything I post somebody seems to have a grievance or problem with it.
Not at all. I just made a polite post on one of your other threads, but of course that doesn't count.

I prefer the latter,most of us do if they were to be totally honest with themselves.
So those of us who disagreed are lying to ourselves?

Remember the real life tonnage kings?,they were also proud of their achievements.
They could also die.

Some people I guess can never be satisfied,there is always something to gripe about.
Not true at all. Making a comment is not "griping". If you want to see gripes read my posts on what SH4 is still missing.

And before your skin gets any thinner, I'm only half serious in any of this. Remember my comments were based on what your title actually said, not what you wanted it to say. I see a difference. No problem though, I just won't comment on anything you say anymore.

[edit] No, I'm not quite that petty. And I'm feeling better now. Have fun sinking things, and I'll try to be kinder. :sunny:

[Paul Riley]

Not at all. I just made a polite post on one of your other threads, but of course that doesn't count.


So those of us who disagreed are lying to ourselves?


They could also die.


Not true at all. Making a comment is not "griping". If you want to see gripes read my posts on what SH4 is still missing.

And before your skin gets any thinner, I'm only half serious in any of this. Remember my comments were based on what your title actually said, not what you wanted it to say. I see a difference. No problem though, I just won't comment on anything you say anymore.

[edit] No, I'm not quite that petty. And I'm feeling better now. Have fun sinking things, and I'll try to be kinder. :sunny:

Sorry to bring this up again Steve,but I just dont see where you got the idea that I was bragging about my accomplishment with Nelson or for wanting to post my quite large tonnage for that patrol.I just thought there were others in here that may also like to share their most memorable patrols.I was indicating feeling pride at myself not superiority over anyone.
No hard feelings in the meantime.After all,this is a game and not real :)

[Paul Riley]

Sorry to bring this up again Steve,but I just dont see where you got the idea that I was bragging about my accomplishment with Nelson or for wanting to post my quite large tonnage for that patrol.I just thought there were others in here that may also like to share their most memorable patrols.I was indicating feeling pride at myself not superiority over anyone.
No hard feelings in the meantime.After all,this is a game and not real :)

Do you not play the game with the purpose of conducting naval warfare then,esp in the N.Atlantic?,do you literally sail around from port to port taking in the sights etc? just curious.I bet even at x1 TC hehehe.God that must be rough.
I guess one man's meat is another's poison.

[Sailor Steve]

Sorry to bring this up again Steve,but I just dont see where you got the idea that I was bragging about my accomplishment with Nelson or for wanting to post my quite large tonnage for that patrol.
I didn't get it from you at all, and I didn't think you personally were bragging, especially in your 'Nelson' thread. Where I got it was, as I said, from the Ubi forums. Back when we were waiting for SH3 to come out there wasn't much going on, and the Ubi forums became the place to wait for news. You would be amazed at the amount of childish posting that's possible on a supposedly legitimate forum. After SH3 was released the Ubi forums got a very bad reputation for being the exact opposite of Subsim. After twenty or so threads titled "Post Your High Score", "Are You The King" and worst of all, "The Million Tons Club", I left Ubi. for good.

I have no problem with "Look What I Did!", but as soon as I see "Post Your Highest Tonnage" I see not a thread about banner patrols but an invitation to another bragging contest. I admit it's partly me, but you see where I'm coming from.

I just thought there were others in here that may also like to share their most memorable patrols.I was indicating feeling pride at myself not superiority over anyone.
And I wasn't even thinking in terms of superiority, but useless childish foolishness. And of course I could be wrong, but I had to say my piece.

No hard feelings in the meantime.After all,this is a game and not real :)
NOT REAL? Okay, now we're enemies again! :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Do you not play the game with the purpose of conducting naval warfare then,esp in the N.Atlantic?,do you literally sail around from port to port taking in the sights etc? just curious.I bet even at x1 TC hehehe.God that must be rough.
No, but I do sail in and out my home base at 1x, and I follow orders pretty strictly. I've had more than one empty patrol and enjoyed it thoroughly. If I get 20,000 tons in a patrol I'm ecstatic, and usually don't expect more that 10,000. I just recently started another new career, and set out from Wilhelmshaven for BF13 on August 19th. Two weeks before there was even an enemy to see.

I guess one man's meat is another's poison.
Or, as Robert A. Heinlein paraphrased, "One man's theology is another man's belly laugh."

[Paul Riley]

I didn't get it from you at all, and I didn't think you personally were bragging, especially in your 'Nelson' thread. Where I got it was, as I said, from the Ubi forums. Back when we were waiting for SH3 to come out there wasn't much going on, and the Ubi forums became the place to wait for news. You would be amazed at the amount of childish posting that's possible on a supposedly legitimate forum. After SH3 was released the Ubi forums got a very bad reputation for being the exact opposite of Subsim. After twenty or so threads titled "Post Your High Score", "Are You The King" and worst of all, "The Million Tons Club", I left Ubi. for good.

I have no problem with "Look What I Did!", but as soon as I see "Post Your Highest Tonnage" I see not a thread about banner patrols but an invitation to another bragging contest. I admit it's partly me, but you see where I'm coming from.


And I wasn't even thinking in terms of superiority, but useless childish foolishness. And of course I could be wrong, but I had to say my piece.


NOT REAL? Okay, now we're enemies again! :O:

I guess I understand what you mean about 'post your high scores' etc.I think if I saw that all the time that would dissuade me from visiting that forum again.In my personal experience it was the Nelson event that triggered a desire to see other's tonnage scores for one patrol.
No,on the contrary,there have been some great moments here in this forum,and I dont imagine for one minute its anything like the Ubi forum.We,or at least most of us appear to be a more 'mature' audience,the 'high scores guys' (most of) are probably young kids :sunny:

[desirableroasted]

Heh. Face it folks.

By 1944, bragging is "I got home with more than 75% hull integrity."

Move on.

[Sailor Steve]

In my personal experience it was the Nelson event that triggered a desire to see other's tonnage scores for one patrol.
And I apologize for my overreaction. :sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

By 1944, bragging is "I got home with more than 75% hull integrity."
Hmm. I thought by that time it was just "I got home."

On the other hand there was a tonnage discussion some months (or was it years?) ago, and my post just said "I sank a ship once."