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Gerald
08-18-11, 03:39 PM
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Three men doing time in Israeli prisons recently appeared before a parole board consisting of a judge, a criminologist and a social worker. The three prisoners had completed at least two-thirds of their sentences, but the parole board granted freedom to only one of them. Guess which one:

Case 1 (heard at 8:50 a.m.): An Arab Israeli serving a 30-month sentence for fraud.

Case 2 (heard at 3:10 p.m.): A Jewish Israeli serving a 16-month sentence for assault.

Case 3 (heard at 4:25 p.m.): An Arab Israeli serving a 30-month sentence for fraud.

There was a pattern to the parole board’s decisions, but it wasn’t related to the men’s ethnic backgrounds, crimes or sentences. It was all about timing, as researchers discovered by analyzing more than 1,100 decisions over the course of a year. Judges, who would hear the prisoners’ appeals and then get advice from the other members of the board, approved parole in about a third of the cases, but the probability of being paroled fluctuated wildly throughout the day. Prisoners who appeared early in the morning received parole about 70 percent of the time, while those who appeared late in the day were paroled less than 10 percent of the time.

To be continued ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-from-decision-fatigue.html?src=me&ref=general


Note: Published: August 17, 2011

Rockstar
08-18-11, 04:09 PM
Just stop offering parole to criminals one less decision to make.

Otherwise I prefer
chicken,
paper clips,
east because I like watching the sunrise
coach because thats all I can afford
and staying together

It's 5PM here, I thought i did pretty good

Gerald
08-18-11, 05:23 PM
Not bad at all, :roll:

MothBalls
08-18-11, 06:33 PM
I can relate.

In a previous life, when working in corporate America (in Houston), all I did was make decisions all day long. That was my job as a Director in a Fortune 100 company. I didn't produce anything, reports, etc. Didn't really do any work, just went to meetings and made decisions. Close to the end of the day I was tired as hell, at night totally worn out.

On my time off in one summer, I rebuilt my garage, put a roof on it in the middle of the summer heat, built a rock waterfall for the pool, graded and poured a concrete slab for it (hand mixed all the cement), moved all the materials from the front where it was delivered to the back, carried all the stuff on the roof, did it myself. Point being;

At the end of the day, doing hard physical labor, I was less fatigued from that rather than a day at work sitting on my ass thinking all day.

Note: You really can't appreciate how good a cold beer tastes until you pound in the last nail on your new roof and it's 100+ degrees outside.

Growler
08-19-11, 07:17 AM
Note: You really can't appreciate how good a cold beer tastes until you pound in the last nail on your new roof and it's 100+ degrees outside.

Amen!

Betonov
08-19-11, 12:40 PM
At the end of the day, doing hard physical labor, I was less fatigued from that rather than a day at work sitting on my ass thinking all day.

Note: You really can't appreciate how good a cold beer tastes until you pound in the last nail on your new roof and it's 100+ degrees outside.

Here here.

My job was easier when I started, when I was a student, a grunt, a peon. Lift this, hold that. Then it began, I started showing a talent for reading plans and soon it was build this, cut that and now I got promoted to group-leader. A position for which I am neither qualified, educated or payed for that. So now I have a group of two to seven ''grunts'' bombarding me with questions and decisions and not to give time to think it over, plan my moves, calculate the consequences, noooo they shower me with 20 questions and on top of it all, neither of them speaks slovenian, english or german :damn:

Growler
08-19-11, 12:45 PM
...neither of them speaks slovenian, english or german :damn:

Hmm... try Spanish?:O:

Tchocky
08-19-11, 12:52 PM
It doesn't really do to have this in my line of work :woot:

Jimbuna
08-19-11, 03:03 PM
I can relate.

In a previous life, when working in corporate America (in Houston), all I did was make decisions all day long. That was my job as a Director in a Fortune 100 company. I didn't produce anything, reports, etc. Didn't really do any work, just went to meetings and made decisions. Close to the end of the day I was tired as hell, at night totally worn out.

On my time off in one summer, I rebuilt my garage, put a roof on it in the middle of the summer heat, built a rock waterfall for the pool, graded and poured a concrete slab for it (hand mixed all the cement), moved all the materials from the front where it was delivered to the back, carried all the stuff on the roof, did it myself. Point being;

At the end of the day, doing hard physical labor, I was less fatigued from that rather than a day at work sitting on my ass thinking all day.

Note: You really can't appreciate how good a cold beer tastes until you pound in the last nail on your new roof and it's 100+ degrees outside.

Very true....a feeling I've experienced on a few occasions :yep:

Diopos
08-19-11, 03:14 PM
Do You Suffer From Decision Fatigue?

Me, no! But Obama, Sarkozy and Merkel certainly seem to! :hmmm:

.

Gerald
08-19-11, 04:09 PM
Do You Suffer From Decision Fatigue?

Me, no! But Obama, Sarkozy and Merkel certainly seem to! :hmmm:

.Nice,:haha:

Madox58
08-19-11, 04:41 PM
I was going to comment, but I'm to tired to.
Then again? Maybe I'm not to tired but think it's all BS.
I need to think about this when I'm not tired.
Or do I?
:doh:

frau kaleun
08-19-11, 04:47 PM
I was going to comment, but I'm to tired to.
Then again? Maybe I'm not to tired but think it's all BS.
I need to think about this when I'm not tired.
Or do I?
:doh:

I'm trying to decide what I think of your comment, but...

:yawn:

:yawn:

:yawn:

:zzz:




:O:

Diopos
08-19-11, 04:50 PM
I was going to comment, but I'm to tired to.
Then again? Maybe I'm not to tired but think it's all BS.
I need to think about this when I'm not tired.
Or do I?
:doh:

You are not tired. I decided so !!!

Now, where is my top-management bonus ???

:DL

.

Madox58
08-19-11, 04:53 PM
You are not tired. I decided so !!!

Now, where is my top-management bonus ???

:DL

.

FK handles that I think.
:hmmm:

frau kaleun
08-19-11, 05:03 PM
FK handles that I think.
:hmmm:

Yeah, but I got tired of trying to decide who to give it to and wouldn't you know it right about that time the Subsim Amazon link started working again! :woot:

Diopos
08-19-11, 05:04 PM
FK handles that I think.
:hmmm:

You think !!! Make up your mind, man ! No wait.
FK handles top management bonuses. I decided so!
So that doubles my top management bonus !
I think ...:88)

.

Madox58
08-19-11, 05:13 PM
You think !!! Make up your mind, man ! No wait.
FK handles top management bonuses. I decided so!
So that doubles my top management bonus !
I think ...:88)

.
OK! OK! Wait a minute I need to cut a support beam here.
Yes, that one.

OK. That was the wrong one!!
:nope:

Thank Goodness I can blame it on being tired right?
:haha:

We'll worry about rebuilding the house Monday.
:hmmm:

Gerald
08-19-11, 06:29 PM
But think positive .... when all is done, and you can have a party for construction, :DL

Madox58
08-19-11, 06:31 PM
OH NO!!
:o
That's another decision to make!!
:haha:

Jimbuna
08-19-11, 06:49 PM
OH NO!!
:o
That's another decision to make!!
:haha:

LOL :DL

Gerald
08-20-11, 12:21 PM
OH NO!!
:o
That's another decision to make!!
:haha: A good decision, :()1:

Betonov
08-20-11, 01:23 PM
Well, my decision is clear. I smell of chemicals and sweat, i have fiberglass sticking out of me, epoxy resin hardening all over my arms and I am so high on chemicals that I'm seeing a 50kg styrophoam mouse next to me.

Soo I'm off to the local pub for a pint of beer :D

Gerald
08-20-11, 01:37 PM
Well, my decision is clear. I smell of chemicals and sweat, i have fiberglass sticking out of me, epoxy resin hardening all over my arms and I am so high on chemicals that I'm seeing a 50kg styrophoam mouse next to me.

Soo I'm off to the local pub for a pint of beer :D Overdose is a word that calls for this, :hmmm:

Betonov
08-20-11, 01:40 PM
Overdose is a word that calls for this, :hmmm:

often the wrong decision is the right decision

Gerald
08-20-11, 01:45 PM
often the wrong decision is the right decision Then ask that question tomorrow to yourself, :O:

Madox58
08-20-11, 02:53 PM
Then ask that question tomorrow to yourself, :O:
He'll be to tired to make a valid decision tomorrow.
:D

When in doubt? Do nothing but make it look good I always say!
:up:

Jimbuna
08-20-11, 04:13 PM
Well, my decision is clear. I smell of chemicals and sweat, i have fiberglass sticking out of me, epoxy resin hardening all over my arms and I am so high on chemicals that I'm seeing a 50kg styrophoam mouse next to me.

Soo I'm off to the local pub for a pint of beer :D

Be careful you don't step on it's tail when your drunk or you'll be in big trouble :03:

Gerald
08-20-11, 04:18 PM
Be careful you don't step on it's tail when your drunk or you'll be in big trouble :03: Jim, I propose that we contact, Interpol in case, :D

RickC Sniper
08-20-11, 04:34 PM
It took me two days to decide to post here.


Now....Trying to decide what to post?:hmmm:

Gerald
08-20-11, 04:43 PM
I feel empathy for you in this difficult situation, what should be posted or not....

Jimbuna
08-20-11, 04:47 PM
Jim, I propose that we contact, Interpol in case, :D

Thunderbirds Are GO!!

Jimbuna
08-20-11, 04:49 PM
I feel empathy for you in this difficult situation, what should be posted or not....

QFT...and post of the year...well next yer mebbe.

Gerald
08-20-11, 04:51 PM
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Madox58
08-20-11, 04:51 PM
Thunderbirds Are GO!!
Jim may have been tired when makeing this call.
:hmmm:
I think we may need to debate this.
Or not.
But then again?


Oh.......!
Is that Tacos cooking?


What was we talking about?

Gerald
08-20-11, 04:55 PM
Jim may have been tired when makeing this call.
:hmmm:
I think we may need to debate this.
Or not.
But then again?


Oh.......!
Is that Tacos cooking?


What was we talking about? Drink's for free, :haha:

Jimbuna
08-20-11, 05:03 PM
Jim may have been tired when makeing this call.
:hmmm:
I think we may need to debate this.
Or not.
But then again?


Oh.......!
Is that Tacos cooking?


What was we talking about?

This buggas got me worn out :doh:

Gerald
08-20-11, 05:07 PM
Alcohol may have an impact on the concentration.....for some :hmmm:

Madox58
08-20-11, 05:12 PM
This buggas got me worn out :doh:
:haha:

I keep going back to the 'UFO'
:yeah:

Gerald
08-20-11, 05:25 PM
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Jimbuna
08-20-11, 07:06 PM
:haha:

I keep going back to the 'UFO'
:yeah:

ROFLMAO :har:

Gerald
08-20-11, 08:50 PM
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Gerald
08-22-11, 10:33 AM
It may be a newly identified phenomenon among psychologists, but the symptoms seem familiar to some of the readers who have commented on my article on decision fatigue in this Sunday’s Times Magazine. They say they’ve learned not to make important decisions late in the day, which jibes with the advice of Roy F. Baumeister, a social psychologist at Florida State University, whose research is the subject of the article (and of a forthcoming book that he and I wrote together, “Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength”).

“Making decisions uses the very same willpower that you use to say no to doughnuts, drugs or illicit sex,” Baumeister says. “It’s the same willpower that you use to be polite or to wait your turn or to drag yourself out of bed or to hold off going to the bathroom. Your ability to make the right investment or hiring decision may be reduced simply because you expended some of your willpower earlier when you held your tongue in response to someone’s offensive remark or when you exerted yourself to get to the meeting on time.”

http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/why-you-need-to-sleep-on-it/?ref=magazine

Madox58
08-22-11, 05:52 PM
It may be a newly identified phenomenon among psychologists, but the symptoms seem familiar to some of the readers who have commented on my article on decision fatigue in this Sunday’s Times Magazine. They say they’ve learned not to make important decisions late in the day, which jibes with the advice of Roy F. Baumeister, a social psychologist at Florida State University, whose research is the subject of the article (and of a forthcoming book that he and I wrote together, “Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength”).

“Making decisions uses the very same willpower that you use to say no to doughnuts, drugs or illicit sex,” Baumeister says. “It’s the same willpower that you use to be polite or to wait your turn or to drag yourself out of bed or to hold off going to the bathroom. Your ability to make the right investment or hiring decision may be reduced simply because you expended some of your willpower earlier when you held your tongue in response to someone’s offensive remark or when you exerted yourself to get to the meeting on time.”


CRAP!! Since I'm spending some of my 'Will Power' to hold my tounge now?
Tomorrow is going to be a total waste of time!
:nope:

How can I get a Grant to produce total BS like this?
:hmmm:

More importantly?
When did we become so Candy Pants that this thinking is accepted?
:nope:

Thank God I'm not some type of Law Enforcement Dude.
As tired as I am most of the time?
There'd be people in Jail that did not deserve to be there.
OH!!
WAIT!!
That does happen doesn't it?
:o

FIREWALL
08-22-11, 08:22 PM
I tired out just, trying to figured out. :-? :har:

Gerald
08-23-11, 08:27 AM
CRAP!! Since I'm spending some of my 'Will Power' to hold my tounge now?
Tomorrow is going to be a total waste of time!
:nope:

How can I get a Grant to produce total BS like this?
:hmmm:

More importantly?
When did we become so Candy Pants that this thinking is accepted?
:nope:

Thank God I'm not some type of Law Enforcement Dude.
As tired as I am most of the time?
There'd be people in Jail that did not deserve to be there.
OH!!
WAIT!!
That does happen doesn't it?
:o Well....Sleep on it and give an answer then :haha: