View Full Version : 5 Reasons Why American Riots Will Be The Worst In The World
Feuer Frei!
08-11-11, 07:52 PM
England is number 3 on the list has had 4 days of violent riots (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023874/UK-riots-2011-16k-police-ready-use-plastic-bullets-lid-Londons-looters.html) as people start to lose it. Israel is number 1 on that list has had massive protests (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6b9d9c08-c299-11e0-9ede-00144feabdc0.html). There is revolution in the air all over the world (http://www.cnbc.com/id/44073673) except in the US. America is still in deep denial which is still the first stage of the Awakening (http://dont-tread-on.me/5-stages-of-the-awakening/). This denial will be wiped away when the dollar collapses. For now the economy is still functioning with food and fuel available. Americans still have the illusion of wealth and normalcy. They still are stuck in the false left right paradigm and think some other sock puppet will turn things around.
When the dollar collapses, all American illusions will collapse with it. Deep denial will turn into deep anger. The violence I expect in the other 3 areas on the list (http://dont-tread-on.me/top-5-places-not-to-be-when-the-dollar-collapses/) and all urban areas in the US, will make all other global riots pale in comparison. America is deeply infused with arrogance, denial, narcissism, drugs and violence. There is no other society that I know of that has the degree of intensity and combination of these factors.
“We’re Number 1! We’re Number 1!”
1. Arrogance- All of our lives we have been fed the lie that somehow we are better than everyone else. We believe this so much that we feel it is morally acceptable to stick our noses in everyone’s business. We have 777+ military bases all over the world. Our currency is the world’s reserve currency. We control most international organizations like the UN, IMF and World Bank. We control the world’s shipping lanes. Our media is the most popular and sought after propaganda in the world. Our corporations harvest the resources that our empire provides. This has lead to an American way of life that is not negotiable. We print debt and consume. This way of life was only possible by the very real and hard sacrifices made by Americans long dead. America today is nothing more than a spoiled brat blowing through the last of their inheritance. The only thing the US is number 1 in is spreading debt and death. This American arrogance will be turned on to other Americans as the dollar collapses. We will no longer be able to maintain the global empire of force without a functioning currency. All of our troops will be forced to come home and we will no longer be able to import 25% of the world’s oil. This sudden shift will turn arrogant Americans on each other as they seek to enforce their inflated sense of self worth on to others. They will think that somehow the world somehow owes them something and they believe that lesser people should make that sacrifice for them. After all, the American way of life is not negotiable… at least that’s what Dick Cheney said.
“Everything is fine today, that is our illusion.” -Voltaire
2. Denial- For those that aren’t arrogant, they are in denial that somehow they are okay because they are good people. They believe that the America will recover and that the American Dream is still alive. They believe this because they either lack the ability to logically see through the lies or they believe that the people ruling them have the same morals as they do. You cannot spread freedom with war. A nation cannot enforce their will on another nation anymore than you can enforce your will upon another. There will always be blow back. Of course that is the plan of your rulers. They do not share the same values as you do. They seek to create chaos and division so that they can garner more power and profits. “You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of reality.” Ayn Rand
The dollar collapse will end the ability of the average American to deny their active or passive participation in the dominance of the world by spreading debt and death. When people’s entire life’s savings are wiped away, they will wonder what their life has been all about. All of the missed times with their family and connections with others has been stained by the pursuit of material gains. Only when everything is taken from them, will they start to see the real importance of life. Many will not be able to come to terms with this coming reality. Those that are aware and prepared stand a great chance of making it through this paradigm shift and thrive.
3. Narcissism- The amount of narcissism in America is epidemic. The fascination with celebrities and their clothes consumes so many women. Men are addicted to worshiping sports figures. We have this fear of competition and view others as enemies. This leads to shallow and transitory relationships. Americans consume their way into debt as they try to create an outer facade to hide a void in their vapid lives.
The Baby Boomer generation is known as the “Me” generation. Their obsessive pursuit for material possessions was matched by their embrace of debt. The dollar collapse is going to hit the Baby Boomers the hardest as they are forced to come to term with the trail of pain they have left in their wake. Broken families and debt are just the tip of the iceberg. The war and debt machine they enabled and unleashed upon the world is a much harder reality they will have to deal with. The real problem is the sad fact that many of them will be too old to have a second chance on life.
4. Drugs- Millions of Americans turn to drugs to fill the void of true purpose in their lives. Instead of dealing with a past a hurt or seeking a higher purpose in their lives by helping others and using their natural talents to make a better world, people turn to drugs. The worst kind of drugs are the ones that people believe are making them better. The powerful psychotropic drugs like Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI) or more commonly known as anti-depressants. These drugs are extremely powerful and can cause psychotic breaks that lead to violence. Go to http://ssristories.com/ to see the list of nearly 4,300 cases of crime related to these drugs. These stories include everything from the Virginia Tech shooting to the mom that drowned her 5 kids in the bathtub. I would say that these drugs are much more dangerous than guns, because they cause the people to break from reality and cause the violence.
I don’t have time to go into the mass medication of America and the real reason why Marijuana is illegal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oow7y1RcV00), but I do want to warn everyone of one thing. Nearly 10% of the country or 27 million Americans are on these drugs. Knowing that there is only a one month supply in the system and the kind of psychotic breaks that will happen if people come off these drugs too fast, this is definitely not a good thing. When the dollar collapses, we not only have to worry about the 7 to 10 day supply of food and fuel in the system, we really need to worry about the 1 in 10 Americans who are not going to be medicated while their world paradigm collapses. I can see it now, humanitarian airlifts dropping Zoloft and Lexapro from the sky…
5. Violence- Violence has been apart of our American culture since the beginning of our country. We have the most armed population and the highest crime rates in the world. The violence we will see in some parts of America could become as bad as the Reign of Terror from the French Revolution. I wrote the 2 Coming American Revolutions (http://dont-tread-on.me/the-two-coming-american-revolutions/). One Revolution will embrace founding fathers vision of Life , Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. The other Revolution will be some collectivist vision of coercion and fear. Some parts of this country will confront the new post-dollar paradigm by embracing freedom and honest money. Others will try to hold onto power by becoming more tyrannical and finding enemies within their neighbors.
We are surrounded by violence and have been desensitized anti social behavior. Our movies and video games show the killing of others but rarely the consequences of those actions. Even other anti social behavior has been normalized. I even realized my favorite show of all time Seinfeld was all about normalizing anti social behavior. The series finale was based on a man getting mugged and all 4 main characters not only not helping the man, but actually making fun of the man as he is violently robbed. This lack of empathy is at the root of our problems. So here we now have a society that not only cares only about themselves and their materialistic needs, we also have a society that no longer cares about other’s feelings.
SOURCE (http://dont-tread-on.me/5-reasons-why-american-riots-will-be-the-worst-in-the-world/)
AJ94CAP
08-11-11, 07:55 PM
I'm not sure I see this as informative at all, more just a bash of America. :shifty:
EDIT: Upon reading it twice, I am sure. This is simply a slight to Americans.
It's an american website/opinion, isn't it? :-?
Feuer Frei!
08-11-11, 08:03 PM
Written by an American. Let's hope the posting will not be taken out of context and that I will be held liable for spreading anti-American propaganda.
The article is, I agree somewhat negative in SOME areas of it's content, however it's a different slant of the inherent problems facing America right now. And for many years.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:04 PM
No worries. Close the borders and let Isolationism set in. I'm good with that :up: Let see how the world fairs. Best of luck! :up:
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:06 PM
Written by an American. Let's hope the posting will not be taken out of context and that I will be held liable for spreading anti-American propaganda.
The article is, I agree somewhat negative in SOME areas of it's content, however it's a different slant of the inherent problems facing America right now. And for many years.
Many of the problems facing America right now are the very same problems being faced in other countries. Each country has their own view of the situation. Normally it is the America's fault. Someone needs to be blamed and it might as well be America. :yeah:
AJ94CAP
08-11-11, 08:07 PM
It's an american website/opinion, isn't it? :-?
It is, even so, if this guy was trying to get the majority of people to LISTEN TO HIM, he probably shouldn't be calling them arrogant, blind, narcistic, bratty, violent pot heads.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:08 PM
We control the world’s shipping lanes.
No we don't. The pirates have a good handle on quite a bit of it last time I checked. :03:
AJ94CAP
08-11-11, 08:08 PM
Written by an American. Let's hope the posting will not be taken out of context and that I will be held liable for spreading anti-American propaganda.
The article is, I agree somewhat negative in SOME areas of it's content, however it's a different slant of the inherent problems facing America right now. And for many years.
In no way blaming you for the bash at all Feuer Frei. ;)
Sounds like the author of this article has a bad case of generalizatia.:nope:
mookiemookie
08-11-11, 08:10 PM
This is some garbage opinion piece. Some paranoid tea partier got into the whiskey and banged out a screed about the end of the world.
:zzz:
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:10 PM
It is, even so, if this guy was trying to get the majority of people to LISTEN TO HIM, he probably shouldn't be calling them arrogant, blind, narcistic, bratty, violent pot heads.
Sadly I would say most are arrogant, blind, narcarcistic and bratty. Not all are pot heads and violent.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:11 PM
This is some garbage opinion piece. Some paranoid tea partier got into the whiskey and banged out a screed about the end of the world.
:zzz:
Now now with the tea partier. Where is the article said to be written by a tea partier?
Anyway, the screed about the end of the world is found in Revelations. I'm not sure if it was written by a tea partier. :O:
AJ94CAP
08-11-11, 08:11 PM
Sadly I would say most are arrogant, blind, narcarcistic and bratty. Not all are pot heads and violent.
Regardless of any truth behind it, people are going to shut down to this guy the moment they start taking offence. Which is during the first few seconds of reading.:dead:
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:12 PM
Regardless of any truth behind it, people are going to shut down to this guy the moment they start taking offence. Which is during the first few seconds of reading.:dead:
And you are right and I did! :yeah:
mookiemookie
08-11-11, 08:14 PM
Now now with the tea partier. Where is the article said to be written by a tea partier?
Anyway, the screed about the end of the world is found in Revelations. I'm not sure if it was written by a tea partier. :O:
The website's name says it all.
Feuer Frei!
08-11-11, 08:14 PM
I'm not sure I see this as informative at all, more just a bash of America. :shifty:
EDIT: Upon reading it twice, I am sure. This is simply a slight to Americans.
Well, you don't agree with any of the points mentioned there? Not reading between the lines? Drug abuse, violence, a collapsed US dollar, narcissim, arrogance, denial?
There is, and has been for a long time a general feeling that the world thinks the US is the biggest and the best and, dare I say it the baddest in all things global.
But what about addressing inside issues, or closer to home addressing of the problems currently crippling this great nation?
Why is it that when (and yes, one of your own) addresses quiet fundamental reasons for the outbreak of riots, or violence.
The points raised can all be a trigger.
Combine them all, and you magnify that outcome by a lot.
I think the article addresses perhaps nothing new, in the way that it doesn't post anything groundbreaking that we didn't already know. But to say it's bashing yourself (because the poster is American) is a case of the Emu with it's head in the sand maybe?
Is it denial? I don't know. It seems to me, and I can speak for myself as well, that if our countries are addressed in articles we get defensive and I can attest to that too. I am not immune to that.
However, does that attitude then not back up the point about denial even more then?
I think that's something worth considering.
Thinking that everything is a-ok and that it's just another bashing article of A nation is playing into the hands of the whole point of this article.
EDIT: Just read your reply further down, no probs mate, I didn't really think you were implying i was bashing here. Phew!
And the above, addressing you is not a attack on you.
Take it as a generalised way to invite discussion.
regards.
Castout
08-11-11, 08:15 PM
Awakening
Found an interesting youtube video on it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzEeq5Adi0c&list=FLp-MDmrzU7QI&index=3
If you believe everything in it you're stupid, if you believe nothing in it you're no where near awakening.
Awakening is a process that begins and ends inside an individual. It is walked by the realization of freewill and exercising the power of choosing and choosing what is right consistently. It involves expanding your consciousness(instead it being restricted to locality). It means to be a better man. It's not about revolution, it is about evolution that starts in individual and hopefully ends with the whole society.
That said however
http://www.myspacefunstuff.com/graphics/fun/images/funny19.jpg
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:19 PM
The website's name says it all.
Don't Tread on Me is Tea Party? The site does not claim to be Tea Party. :hmmm:
Osmium Steele
08-11-11, 08:19 PM
Some paranoid tea partier got into the whiskey and banged out a screed about the end of the world.
:zzz:
Logic fault here.
No tea party member I know would subscribe to the very first point in this article.
We all, regardless of social/political stripe, have a tendancy to believe in "american exceptionalism" which the first point of the article decries as arrogance.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:21 PM
There is, and has been for a long time a general feeling that the world thinks the US is the biggest and the best and, dare I say it the baddest in all things global.
Well, no one has really challenged this. If they did, well, look in the history books. :DL
AJ94CAP
08-11-11, 08:22 PM
Well it is understood among at least 95% of Americans that not everything is alright.
This guy puts Americans into three catagories:
The arrogant, the blind, ... and himself. This is stereotypical beyond imagination. Does he not think that all the people getting laid off EVERYDAY feel the burn? I wouldn't call the people stupid whose houses have recently been foreclosed on because they don't have the money to pay their double morgage. What this guy has written, IMHO, is arrogant. With nearly 10% of Americans unemployed, (must be the same 10% dependent on drugs right) I seriously doubt ANY of us think that everything is alright. Just because no one is running around like a headless chicken yet does not mean that we are in denial. It's guys like this that make me most frustrated.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:23 PM
running around like a headless chicken
I witnessed this in England in the past few days. :hmmm:
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:26 PM
Anyway, besides the article and the jokes I posted. I strongly believe their will be more frequent rioting in American.
mookiemookie
08-11-11, 08:31 PM
Don't Tread on Me is Tea Party? The site does not claim to be Tea Party. :hmmm:
http://www.google.com/search?q=tea+party+flag&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=925
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:36 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=tea+party+flag&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=925
OK, a flag with a snake....
MOOKIE....a flag with this saying flies bow of the USS TORSK. The flag has the snake. Does this mean the boat is Tea Party? :hmmm:
Written by an American. Let's hope the posting will not be taken out of context and that I will be held liable for spreading anti-American propaganda.
The article is, I agree somewhat negative in SOME areas of it's content, however it's a different slant of the inherent problems facing America right now. And for many years.
But it is anti-American propaganda Frei. And you are spreading it. So why shouldn't you be held liable?
Whoever wrote that article is a troll. As you read it you can just feel the authors desire for it to happen.
AVGWarhawk
08-11-11, 08:40 PM
Seems the site is down now. :hmmm:
The website's name says it all.
So mookie, if I put up a website with a liberal scheme and fill it with a bunch of looney left wing conspiracy theories you figure that it would be an accurate description of you?
Madox58
08-11-11, 08:51 PM
I strongly believe their will be more frequent rioting in American.
It's not a matter of if there will be rioting.
Just a matter of when it happens.
Then a matter of why it happened at all.
History shows us again and again that this is going to happen!
Thankfully I don't live in the Big Cities where it will happen.
All I'll need to do is watch for the City Dwellers who think they can raid the countryside.
:haha:
Tain't no Coppers round this here parts to protect trouble makers!
:03:
Torplexed
08-11-11, 09:03 PM
It's okay as long as it's a quiet riot.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/MetalHealthQuietRiot.jpg
mookiemookie
08-11-11, 09:18 PM
So mookie, if I put up a website with a liberal scheme and fill it with a bunch of looney left wing conspiracy theories you figure that it would be an accurate description of you?
Only if it extols the vitures of Makers Mark and rails against the canard that lowering taxes increases employment. Then it would be kinda sorta like me. Oh yeah, and it needs redheads. Lots of redheads. With big boobs. Christina Hendricks type.
AJ94CAP
08-11-11, 09:25 PM
It's not a matter of if there will be rioting.
Just a matter of when it happens.
Then a matter of why it happened at all.
History shows us again and again that this is going to happen!
Thankfully I don't live in the Big Cities where it will happen.
All I'll need to do is watch for the City Dwellers who think they can raid the countryside.
:haha:
Tain't no Coppers round this here parts to protect trouble makers!
:03:
I must confess my doubt that any severe roiting will occur in the States. People have short memories...
Depressions/Recessions of the last 100+ years:
Recession of 1902
Panic of 1907
Panic of 1910
Recession of 1913
Recession of 1918
Depression of 1920-21
Recession of 1923
Recession of 1926
Great Depression of 1929-33
Recession of 1937
Recession of 1945
Recession of 1949
Recession of 1953
Recession of 1958
Recession of 1960
Recession of 1969
Recession of 1973
Recession of 1980-82
Recession of 1991
Recession of 2001
Great Recession of 2007-09
After ALLLLLLL of these different economic issues and problems, we have gotten through them. I think we just need to hunker down and buckle up, this'll be a rough one.
gimpy117
08-11-11, 09:41 PM
why the american riots will be the worst:
http://fehrenbacher.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ugrumj411chrspozalqvnvih_400.jpg
Torplexed
08-11-11, 10:21 PM
why the american riots will be the worst:
http://fehrenbacher.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ugrumj411chrspozalqvnvih_400.jpg
And that's just the late Charlton Heston's tool shed. :D
Osmium Steele
08-11-11, 10:31 PM
I must confess my doubt that any severe roiting will occur in the States.
<snipped a bit for brevity>
After ALLLLLLL of these different economic issues and problems, we have gotten through them. I think we just need to hunker down and buckle up, this'll be a rough one.
One MAJOR difference between all of those examples and today:
A racially charged political climate, with race baiters all over the mainstream media.
If the president is successfully challenged in the upcoming primary, there will be hell to pay.
When he loses the general election, I believe cities will burn.
I wish I did not believe that, but I do.
You think it is crazy when people riot because their favorite sports team loses the championship?
Imagine if almost 10% of the american population, who already consider themselves victims, pinned all of their hopes and dreams for a better life for themselves and their families on one man, only to have him defeated after one horrible term in office.
It has already started, but very few are talking about it. Racially motivated mob attacks are in the news every couple of days since the start of summer.
Peoria, Chicago, Philadelphia, and the Wisconsin State Fair are just a few that have made headlines, with little to no follow-up in the media.
The kindling is dry and stacked. The torch is lit. Just waiting for someone to toss it on the pile.
Madox58
08-11-11, 10:38 PM
I must confess my doubt that any severe roiting will occur in the States.
Change 'States' to Rome?
And I'm sure they said the same thing.
I did not say the riots will start over the latest issues.
But one day?
BOOM!!
The old fan will be overloaded with the nasty stuff hitting it.
Sure it may be a thousand years down the road.
But it will happen.
People in mass groups, given time, are predictable like that.
Sailor Steve
08-11-11, 11:11 PM
I was ready to riot today. My cell phone died, and then the power went out for about an hour, and I had no computer either. I thought it was the end of the world. I seriously considered going down to the grocery store and stealing some ice cream. :x
Madox58
08-11-11, 11:15 PM
Steve.
:nope:
You are much to old to riot.
Maybe throw a fit or old folks tantrum.
But not riot.
:haha:
Sailor Steve
08-11-11, 11:22 PM
Hey! First, I AM a riot! Just ask Jim. Second, if you mess with me I'll kick you in the shin, whack you with my cane and make my escape. You have no idea how fast I can hobble along! Also I can give dirty looks that make strong men quake in their boots!
And if that doesn't work, I've had good luck with crying a lot. :sunny:
Madox58
08-11-11, 11:23 PM
:haha:
You've just described an 'Old Folks Tantrum'.
:yeah:
Sailor Steve
08-11-11, 11:25 PM
Hey, go with what you got, I always say! :D
Madox58
08-11-11, 11:28 PM
Roger that Mate.
:salute:
Now pardon me whilst I go through all the AARP mail I have.
:haha:
kiwi_2005
08-11-11, 11:30 PM
I was ready to riot today. My cell phone died, and then the power went out for about an hour, and I had no computer either. I thought it was the end of the world. I seriously considered going down to the grocery store and stealing some ice cream. :x
:rotfl2:
Sailor Steve
08-11-11, 11:34 PM
:rotfl2:
Hey! It happens to be true! The only thing that stopped me was that I already had some I bought yesterday. Ice cream is a great cure-all.
Tomorrow I have to go stea...buy a new phone.
CaptainMattJ.
08-12-11, 12:35 AM
based on the people ive seen and heard in California, i can say that these people do have an overinflated sense of awesomeness. And stupidity. by god, you cant deny how stupid the average "Whuuuuut?" california patron is.
There are too many ignorant and oblivious people. they need to start actually giving a dam about what happens indirectly to them outside their daily bubble. Then there wouldnt be rioting. because if so many people werent so caught up in their little bubble, they would know what theyre voting on, and actually understand the bill instead of getting some bull**** white lie summary from a dirty politician. All THEY heard was the main part of the bill, and not the little subsections that screw you over.
Tribesman
08-12-11, 02:10 AM
Some paranoid tea partier got into the whiskey and banged out a screed about the end of the world.
No Mookie, what you have is a paranoid former tea partier, he is also a paranoid former republican.
The reason why he is a former tea partier is explained in his rant about how the movement has been taken over by the very people it thinks it is against...which is the same reason he gives as to why he isn't a republican anymore.
Jimbuna
08-12-11, 05:44 AM
Hey! First, I AM a riot! Just ask Jim. Second, if you mess with me I'll kick you in the shin, whack you with my cane and make my escape. You have no idea how fast I can hobble along! Also I can give dirty looks that make strong men quake in their boots!
And if that doesn't work, I've had good luck with crying a lot. :sunny:
Yes...your certainly a demon with that cane :O:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1311/men1411.gif
AVGWarhawk
08-12-11, 06:12 AM
It's not a matter of if there will be rioting.
Just a matter of when it happens.
Then a matter of why it happened at all.
History shows us again and again that this is going to happen!
Thankfully I don't live in the Big Cities where it will happen.
All I'll need to do is watch for the City Dwellers who think they can raid the countryside.
:haha:
Tain't no Coppers round this here parts to protect trouble makers!
:03:
They will riot the next time their hockey, football or basketball team loses. This seems to be status qou these days. It is in my opinion that unemployment benefits are stopping two things, soup kitchens like we have seen in the depression and rioting. As benefits come to a stop problems will begin to become more prevalent.
Growler
08-12-11, 07:12 AM
No riots in America? A sample over 200+ years, in no particular order:
Cincinnati, 1855 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_riots_of_1855#Riots)
The Battle in Seattle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization_Ministerial_Conference_of _1999_protest_activity)
Days of Rage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Rage)
1742 Election Riot in Philadelphia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Election_Riot)
1979 White Night Riot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Night_riots)
We're perfectly capable of blowing up. The difference is, we tend to come back together again.
On 9-11, it would have been perfectly logical to think that New Yorkers would have taken advantage of the chaos of that morning, but by and large, they didn't.
The OP takes a rather dim view of us, for one who claims to speak for us. I've seen more of my neighbors helping each other during community crises than exploiting each other.
Feuer Frei!
08-12-11, 08:16 AM
The OP takes a rather dim view of us, for one who claims to speak for us. I've seen more of my neighbors helping each other during community crises than exploiting each other.
Not my personal views.
Merely posted as a discussion point, nothing more, nothing less.
My views of the US are far from gloom and doom and oppression and inferiority. Or a view of suppression or losing all sense of reality. Or exerting it's muscle upon the global scene.
Far from it.
My views of the US are of Miami, Florida, where my parents and I were many moons ago, before emigrating to Australia. The US was one place my parents had considered as a final destination.
I have a lot of respect for the US. It's people, it's geography. It's history. Oh especially it's history.
I have American friends, and have met many a US citizen, whom i have all enjoyed conversing with.
frau kaleun
08-12-11, 08:27 AM
:haha:
You've just described an 'Old Folks Tantrum'.
:yeah:
This just in - looks like they finally pushed Steve and his homies too far. They've taken over downtown Salt Lake City and say they won't leave until their demands are met. This could get ugly, folks.
http://media.theonion.com/images/articles/article/835/onion_news2003_jpg_600x1000_q85.jpg
Feuer Frei!
08-12-11, 08:31 AM
Hen Fap?
:hmm2:
Growler
08-12-11, 08:38 AM
Not my personal views.
Merely posted as a discussion point, nothing more, nothing less.
My views of the US are far from gloom and doom and oppression and inferiority. Or a view of suppression or losing all sense of reality. Or exerting it's muscle upon the global scene.
Far from it.
My views of the US are of Miami, Florida, where my parents and I were many moons ago, before emigrating to Australia. The US was one place my parents had considered as a final destination.
I have a lot of respect for the US. It's people, it's geography. It's history. Oh especially it's history.
I have American friends, and have met many a US citizen, whom i have all enjoyed conversing with.
Apologies, my friend. I had not intended that to look as though I was directing my comments to you, but rather to the author of the piece you quoted.
Feuer Frei!
08-12-11, 08:42 AM
Apologies, my friend. I had not intended that to look as though I was directing my comments to you, but rather to the author of the piece you quoted.
No offense taken, my friend.
:salute:
No worries. Close the borders and let Isolationism set in. I'm good with that :up: Let see how the world fairs. Best of luck! :up:
Dose this mean we will not get the recipe for coka~cola?
Betonov
08-12-11, 10:56 AM
No worries. Close the borders and let Isolationism set in. I'm good with that :up: Let see how the world fairs. Best of luck! :up:
I think we will survive with 3 less tourists per year
flatsixes
08-12-11, 10:58 AM
We had some pretty wild race riots in the US back in the 1960s. Watts. Detroit. Philadelphia. Camden. D.C. Newark. Atlanta. And let's not forget the "police riot" in Chicago in 1968. Last riot that I can recall that wasn't a bunch of jackwagons celebrating a sports victory/defeat was almost 20 years ago: Los Angeles, 1992. I'm certain that there will be others in the future. There's no shortage of "anger" in many cities, and, as history has demonstrated over and over, "anger" provides opportunity for some.
Where the doomsayers (both foreign & domestic) get it wrong (in my opinion) is that they fail to take into account the underlying resiliency of a free society. As much as we may bitch and moan about things, its mostly about things we believe others (including the government) don't deserve, and that we want for ourselves. Although these tensions make for some anxious days from time to time, such temperaments have never been fatal to an orderly society bent on balancing justice and liberty.
I'm reminded that 50 years ago today a wall was erected by a government to separate a people. So long as people in the United States have unfettered rights to travel within its borders, and if dissatisfied pick up and move, I don't fear our future as a free people.
We'll work it out.
We had some pretty wild race riots in the US back in the 1960s. Watts. Detroit. Philadelphia. Camden. D.C. Newark. Atlanta. And let's not forget the "police riot" in Chicago in 1968. Last riot that I can recall that wasn't a bunch of jackwagons celebrating a sports victory/defeat was almost 20 years ago: Los Angeles, 1992. I'm certain that there will be others in the future. There's no shortage of "anger" in many cities, and, as history has demonstrated over and over, "anger" provides opportunity for some.
Where the doomsayers (both foreign & domestic) get it wrong (in my opinion) is that they fail to take into account the underlying resiliency of a free society. As much as we may bitch and moan about things, its mostly about things we believe others (including the government) don't deserve, and that we want for ourselves. Although these tensions make for some anxious days from time to time, such temperaments have never been fatal to an orderly society bent on balancing justice and liberty.
I'm reminded that 50 years ago today a wall was erected by a government to separate a people. So long as people in the United States have unfettered rights to travel within its borders, and if dissatisfied pick up and move, I don't fear our future as a free people.
We'll work it out.
Well said.
Sailor Steve
08-12-11, 11:13 AM
Yes...your certainly a demon with that cane :O:
Still have the bruises, eh?
This just in - looks like they finally pushed Steve and his homies too far. They've taken over downtown Salt Lake City and say they won't leave until their demands are met. This could get ugly, folks.
It's not helping. They just changed all the bus schedules and now none of us knows how to get anywhere. There oughta be a law!
We had some pretty wild race riots in the US back in the 1960s.
And it took a Canadian to write the best description of the Detroit riots (and maybe any riots) ever penned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXL3iEVnCM
and that we want for ourselves.
How rude of you to hit the nail right on the head. Sometimes it sucks to be human.
AVGWarhawk
08-12-11, 02:51 PM
I think we will survive with 3 less tourists per year
Excellent! :up:
AVGWarhawk
08-12-11, 02:51 PM
Dose this mean we will not get the recipe for coka~cola?
Nah, I will email it to you. :up:
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