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OnePingOnly
08-04-11, 09:36 PM
I ordered DAS BOOT from netflix and I am about to watch the original version for the first time! I have seen some of it bits and pieces. BUT this is my first time! I also got The Enemy Below With Robert Mitchum! I will post my review upon completion!

OnePingOnly:DL

Fish In The Water
08-04-11, 09:57 PM
I ordered DAS BOOT from netflix and I am about to watch the original version for the first time!

Break out the popcorn, sit back, relax and enjoy! :woot:

frau kaleun
08-04-11, 09:58 PM
Yeah, I still remember my first time. :cool:

I also got it from Netflix and then couldn't bear to send it back until my very own copy arrived from Amazon. Two years later... my goodness, has it been that long already? Well, here I am. And I still get the itch to watch it on a regular basis. Hell, I watched at least some of it almost daily for the first month I had a copy in my possession. And I'm still not one bit tired of it.

Das Boot is not just a great sub film... it's also great war film, a great suspense film, a compelling human drama, and one of the best movies, period, of all time.

Enjoy yourself. You only get to see it the first time once. :D

Technically what you got from Netflix is the Director's Cut, which was the extended re-release from the late 90s (?). The original theatrical release from 1981 was never put out on DVD. Unless of course you've gotten both discs of the Blu-ray (do they have it yet?) in which case you've got both the 1981 version and the Director's Cut.

Most people here would probably say that the DC is the better of the two, because it more accurately reflects what a u-boat patrol was like (days or even weeks of seemingly endless tedium and frustration punctuated by relatively brief episodes of sheer terror). Along with that you get a much deeper exploration of the characters and their individual stories and relationship to each other.

BTW, if you find the Director's Cut all that and a bag of chips, and are left wanting even more, there's always the full 5 1/2 hour Uncut version to look forward to. ;)

Sailor Steve
08-04-11, 10:58 PM
I remember my first time too. In the theater, almost thirty years ago.
:rotfl2: :dead:

Paul Riley
08-05-11, 03:32 AM
Dont forget to watch it while laid in the bath with some sausages hanging over your head :woot:

"FLUUUUUUUUUUTEN!"

Jimbuna
08-05-11, 05:42 AM
I remember my first time too. In the theater, almost thirty years ago.
:rotfl2: :dead:

Someone on this forum once told me that you actually made a cameo appearance in the movie :O:

Brag
08-05-11, 07:06 AM
I was in Nairobi and intrigued by the advert. Saw the movie. My ex arrived the following day. I told her, "I´ve heard there is a really good movie in town." :D

Frau K -- Indeed, the character development and the way personal conflicts are handled is exceptional. I was impressed with the use of Lt. Werner, a journalist as the POV character to whom things had to be explained.

Years later, I watched the TV series in France.

On my Friday nights online writing workshops, about once a year, I still trot it out as an example of how character development will overcome plot deficiencies (sail away, dive, shoot torpedo in a confined setting).
:|\\

SubConscious
08-05-11, 07:54 AM
Dont forget to watch it while laid in the bath with some sausages hanging over your head :woot:

"FLUUUUUUUUUUTEN!"

And periodically turn on the shower during the scenes with depth charges. :O:

Missing Name
08-05-11, 08:01 AM
I have the Original Uncut Version on DVD. I watch it every few months or so :DL

PurpleAtom
08-05-11, 08:01 AM
I had to split my watching of this film into 2 sittings. Very good, but very looooooooooooooong!!

Paul Riley
08-05-11, 08:12 AM
And periodically turn on the shower during the scenes with depth charges. :O:

Exactly :03:

postalbyke
08-05-11, 09:23 AM
Does anyone know where one can get the miniseries in english? :o

Herr-Berbunch
08-05-11, 09:31 AM
Amazon (obviously via the Subsim link).

It's the one with the green cover, called the Original Uncut version. All the episodes added together with no credits in between, just the way it should be. :D

Jimbuna
08-05-11, 12:05 PM
Does anyone know where one can get the miniseries in english? :o

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Das-Boot-Mini-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001NIYUO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1312563859&sr=8-2

Sailor Steve
08-05-11, 01:50 PM
Someone on this forum once told me that you actually made a cameo appearance in the movie :O:
We were talking about a movie?

Sailor Steve
08-05-11, 01:52 PM
Does anyone know where one can get the miniseries in english? :o
As above. It can be watched subtitled or dubbed into English. The German version is better though.

But even that isn't really the miniseries. It's the whole thing, all the footage, but there are no episode breaks. It's presented as a five-hour movie, and the only break is when you have to switch discs.

Osmium Steele
08-05-11, 02:41 PM
SPOILER BELOW!!!

Never play poker with my wife.

She'd never seen Das Boot, so I found it on-demand and we sat down on Sunday to watch it together.

During the run through Gibraltar, she turned to me and said, "They're not all going to die are they? I don't want to watch these men all die."

I said, "Honey, of the 40,000 men who served on U-boats, 30,000 never made it home again... ... but these men make it back to port, yes."

She stared at me for 30 seconds or so... ... then said, "And THEN they die, right?"

I couldn't keep a straight face. I tried, I just couldn't. :DL

She got up, went upstairs, and read a book.

:yeah:

Herr-Berbunch
08-05-11, 03:30 PM
I've just started reading the book. Blu-ray is coming to UK in Sept :yeah:

Sailor Steve
08-05-11, 03:41 PM
@ Osmium Steele: :rotfl2: :rock:

But...

so I found it on-demand.
YOU DON'T OWN A COPY?!?! I'm embarrassed to even talk to you in public now! :O:

I own three currently: The Theatrical and the Director's Cut on VHS and the Uncut Version on DVD. I had the Director's Cut on DVD but gave it to a deserving older member when I got the long one. I'll have them all soon enough on Blu-Ray, but it won't do me any good until I can afford a new computer.

I've just started reading the book.
Even better. Some of the changes to the movie were probably wise for the general public, but not for me.

Jimbuna
08-05-11, 05:45 PM
@ Osmium Steele: :rotfl2: :rock:

But...


YOU DON'T OWN A COPY?!?! I'm embarrassed to even talk to you in public now! :O:

I own three currently: The Theatrical and the Director's Cut on VHS and the Uncut Version on DVD. I had the Director's Cut on DVD but gave it to a deserving older member when I got the long one. I'll have them all soon enough on Blu-Ray, but it won't do me any good until I can afford a new computer.


Even better. Some of the changes to the movie were probably wise for the general public, but not for me.

We both 'wizen up' together mate :03:

logan5
08-05-11, 06:56 PM
5 hours??? I thought I had seen the full version and it only ran about 3 hours, I guess I need to re-look into this.

frau kaleun
08-05-11, 07:46 PM
5 hours??? I thought I had seen the full version and it only ran about 3 hours, I guess I need to re-look into this.

The 3.5 hour version is the (extended) director's cut of the movie that was produced for release into theaters back in the 90s. The original theatrical release from 1981 was about 1 hour shorter IIRC.

The 5.5 hour cut is the miniseries version that ran on TV in Europe. It's available on DVD and is billed as the "uncut" version of Das Boot.

http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Original-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001XAOLQ

The original production was always intended to provide both a theatrical "one part" movie version of the story, and an episodic miniseries version to run on television. So they filmed enough to do both, and then cut together both versions. But the original movie version was cut *way* down in order to shorten the running time and emphasize the more action-oriented parts of the story. The director's cut remedied that when it came to the movie version... but the uncut version is another thing altogether. :yep:

And holy cow it's available for only $9.50 now on Amazon.com... I seem to remember paying at least three times that when I bought it, and that was within the last couple of years. I wonder if the price drop is recent, and could it possibly herald the eventual release of an uncut Blu-ray? Because that would be awesome.

Sailor Steve
08-05-11, 10:47 PM
The original theatrical release from 1981 was about 1 hour shorter IIRC.
URC. :sunny:

And holy cow it's available for only $9.50 now on Amazon.com... I seem to remember paying at least three times that when I bought it, and that was within the last couple of years.
:o

I think I payed around $40.00, but then I bought it in a store right when it came out.

I wonder if the price drop is recent, and could it possibly herald the eventual release of an uncut Blu-ray? Because that would be awesome.
I see the Blu-Ray version is pretty cheap already. Now if I only had a player...And a television...

OnePingOnly
08-06-11, 12:26 AM
:har::haha::damn::har::haha:Dont forget to watch it while laid in the bath with some sausages hanging over your head :woot:

"FLUUUUUUUUUUTEN!"

I am now wiping the tears that was classic!

OnePingOnly
08-06-11, 12:35 AM
Insofar as the dialogue and some of the acting, this movie was flawless in its representation of what it was like for the boys in the grey tubes. I enjoyed it very much. THE NETFLIX copy , about mid way through was garbled and slowed down then more garble I tried a few things but my equipment is well maintained as i am a tech geek, So WHAT TO DO, I burned both side to a DL DVR+r and then was able to enjoy it.

My wide thinks I have scurvy watching and reading all this submarine material! One thing i learned emphatically, YOU will depth CHARGED, you will miss even with the best of triangulation, and running full bore on the surface is FOR A MAD MAN!

Tonight I am Watching the Mini Series from encore MOBY DICK, then I will Watch The Enemy Below!

Verify Range To Target...
OnePingOnly

frau kaleun
08-06-11, 10:07 AM
I think I payed around $40.00, but then I bought it in a store right when it came out.

It was still $28.99 on Amazon when I bought it there two years ago.

Shado
08-07-11, 08:12 AM
When I was in Germany back in the early to mid 80's. I saw it in a local theater, we could watch the English version or German one, decided on the German one. It was outstanding. Being in the dark and actually hearing German and having to read the subtitles, was fairly inmersive. After that I was hooked on subs games and learning more. Will have to get a DVD of it and see it again. Hoperully in German with English subtitles.

Herr-Berbunch
08-07-11, 08:25 AM
I recall in either '88 or '89 the mini-series was on TV on a Friday evening, for six weeks I was late going to air cadets!

Tick-tock, UK Blu-ray release soon - and the cover is better than the US one IMO. :D

http://www.sainsburysentertainment.co.uk/media/ProductImage/image300x400/ProductImage-7074279.jpg

VONHARRIS
08-07-11, 09:41 AM
Tonight I am Watching the Mini Series from encore MOBY DICK, then I will Watch The Enemy Below!

Verify Range To Target...
OnePingOnly

I can also suggest :
- U-571
and
- In enemy hands
both "WWII submarine" movies

Have a nice viewing

Jimbuna
08-07-11, 10:20 AM
U-571? :o



In 2006, screenwriter David Ayer admitted that U-571 distorted history and stated that he would not do it again.[8] Ayer told BBC Radio 4's The Film Programme that he "did not feel good" about suggesting Americans captured the Naval Enigma cipher rather than the British.
“It was a distortion...a mercenary decision...to create this parallel history in order to drive the movie for an American audience. Both my grandparents were officers in World War II, and I would be personally offended if somebody distorted their achievements."


Not for accuracy that's for sure :DL

VONHARRIS
08-07-11, 11:35 AM
U-571? :o



Not for accuracy that's for sure :DL

I agree. It is just fun to watch if you set aside historical accuracy.

logan5
08-07-11, 01:26 PM
"In enemy hands" is just horrible, don't even waste your time with it.. after watching Das boot and Enemy below, I doubt you will even be able to stand 5 minutes of it.

Sailor Steve
08-07-11, 02:09 PM
I agree. It is just fun to watch if you set aside historical accuracy.
Unfortunately those of us who live for history see it as a travesty. I couldn't even enjoy the exciting parts. It's about as believable as Space Battleship Yamato.

frau kaleun
08-07-11, 02:47 PM
Space Battleship Yamato.

I would probably watch that at least once. :oops: :O:

Jimbuna
08-07-11, 04:15 PM
I would probably watch that at least once. :oops: :O:

I've reason to believe you watched it twice :DL

Rhodes
08-07-11, 05:16 PM
I'm sorry but Space Battleship Yamato is more believable than U-571...

And I watched many times:D

Miltiades
08-07-11, 05:21 PM
I wish I could watch Yamato.
If it doesn't have the same music as the trailer :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4QWqDTCk2A

frau kaleun
08-07-11, 05:33 PM
Wait a minute... Space Battleship Yamato actually exists? I thought Steve made it up. :haha:

Rhodes
08-07-11, 06:07 PM
Wait a minute... Space Battleship Yamato actually exists? I thought Steve made it up. :haha:

Since it's late here and I am sleepy, I am gone to blame that for not knowing if you're joking or not! If not... go get a copy and see it!

Sailor Steve
08-07-11, 07:45 PM
Wait a minute... Space Battleship Yamato actually exists? I thought Steve made it up. :haha:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0140644/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078692/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477109/

frau kaleun
08-07-11, 08:43 PM
Ah, manga. That explains why I've never heard of it. I thought it would be like some crazy 50s B&W sci-fi B-movie, which might actually be kooky enough to be enjoyable.

Sailor Steve
08-07-11, 11:33 PM
I let myself be talked into watching one episode way back when. That was enough.

VONHARRIS
08-07-11, 11:35 PM
Wait a minute... Space Battleship Yamato actually exists? I thought Steve made it up. :haha:

It is a movie as well :
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477109/

and the dvd cover

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8205/spacebattleshipyamato20b.jpg

Rhodes
08-08-11, 04:40 AM
It is a great piece of sci-fi IMO and revolutionized the japonese animation industry. Many people consider that the series were the first anime and before that the japonese cartoons were "japan animation"!

For a animation 70's show, it has a lot of caracter development and stories, more than many movies/tv live action series!

KRiPtiCz
09-17-11, 08:10 AM
Just watched Das Boot for the first time after hearing about it before becoming a member on this site, and wow one of the more amazing movies i've seen.

Fish In The Water
09-17-11, 10:01 AM
Just watched Das Boot for the first time after hearing about it before becoming a member on this site, and wow one of the more amazing movies i've seen.

It does a great job of capturing the often tedious, yet grim and nerve-wracking reality all in the same film. Truly an outstanding production. :up:

Sailor Steve
09-17-11, 11:34 AM
WELCOME ABOARD! :sunny:

Which version did you see? Whichever one it was, they all have something to recommend them.

Zedwardson
09-17-11, 01:41 PM
I saw the miniseries version for the first time today. Perhaps a bit much and long for one sitting.

However, the (spoiler alert)

Convoy attack - dive, depth charge, Johann goes mad, repairs, and burning tanker section being over a hour is amazing in the miniseries version. But I think for most cases, I prefer the directors cut.

Though I do need to get in on blue ray, but I will wait till next paycheck, spent way too much money this paycheck.

That, and I was watching it with a friend, and I had warned her that it not a "happy ending film" and she was sure that the poor crew dies at gibraltar.

The actual ending had her screaming at the TV. :salute:

Jimbuna
09-17-11, 03:45 PM
I saw the miniseries version for the first time today. Perhaps a bit much and long for one sitting.

However, the (spoiler alert)

Convoy attack - dive, depth charge, Johann goes mad, repairs, and burning tanker section being over a hour is amazing in the miniseries version. But I think for most cases, I prefer the directors cut.

Though I do need to get in on blue ray, but I will wait till next paycheck, spent way too much money this paycheck.

That, and I was watching it with a friend, and I had warned her that it not a "happy ending film" and she was sure that the poor crew dies at gibraltar.

The actual ending had her screaming at the TV. :salute:

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

KRiPtiCz
09-17-11, 03:49 PM
It does a great job of capturing the often tedious, yet grim and nerve-wracking reality all in the same film. Truly an outstanding production. :up:

WELCOME ABOARD! :sunny:

Which version did you see? Whichever one it was, they all have something to recommend them.

im not 100% sure which one it was but it was the German version in Blu Ray, but i was quite disappointed with the last person who had the disc. (got it from netflix) They used it as a cutting board and it had mini cuts on the envelope and the disc itself. But otherwise i've never had a movie that i've actually had me on the edge of my seat before it is quite the movie.

Sailor Steve
09-17-11, 04:52 PM
Cool! Only the theatrical (2-1/2 hours) and the Director's Cut (3-1/2 hours) have been on Blu-Ray, so it's certainly one of those two. Whichever one it was, they're all good. I have a friend who didn't last ten minutes past the bar scene because he's claustrophibic and actually started to panic once they were at sea. :dead:

KRiPtiCz
09-17-11, 05:43 PM
Cool! Only the theatrical (2-1/2 hours) and the Director's Cut (3-1/2 hours) have been on Blu-Ray, so it's certainly one of those two. Whichever one it was, they're all good. I have a friend who didn't last ten minutes past the bar scene because he's claustrophibic and actually started to panic once they were at sea. :dead:

ya it was the 3 1/2 hour one, i didn't realize they had more then one version ill have to keep my eye out for the others.

K-61
09-17-11, 06:38 PM
I remember my first time too. In the theater, almost thirty years ago.
:rotfl2: :dead:

Holy cow, has it been that long???? Man, I feel old now.

Jimbuna
09-18-11, 09:36 AM
Yep....1981

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082096/

flag4
09-18-11, 11:56 AM
...im the PROUD owner of the TV Mini series on two disks at nearly 5 hours long - i wish it were longer too, it goes so quickly.

yours :D


(dont forget the book - the book is brilliant.)

Hans Uberman
09-18-11, 02:58 PM
This reminds me, I should probably try out the Blu-ray. I was excited about purchasing the film for weeks, bought it the day of release, and then... nothing. I'll have to invite a friend over and force him to view the film with me. (I've no friends who are interested in submarines.)

Jimbuna
09-18-11, 03:24 PM
My boys just got a 3D television so I'm looking forward to seeing if my DVD of the film will play in 3D....he reckons it should.

JU_88
09-18-11, 03:56 PM
My first time was bout 3 moths after buying SH3, so maybe August 2005.
Remember my flat mate saw me watching it and he said to me
"The reason you are watching that, is to compensate for the lack of narrative in the Simulator" (meaning SH3.)

Thing is.. he was right :DL .....smart ass!

KRiPtiCz
09-21-11, 01:31 PM
i had to send das boot back to netflix sad day :wah:

KRiPtiCz
09-24-11, 01:16 AM
ok so i have a very very noob question what do they keep referring to the captain in das boot as and how do you spell it? ive been looking for a literal translation

flag4
09-24-11, 03:35 AM
ok so i have a very very noob question what do they keep referring to the captain in das boot as and how do you spell it? ive been looking for a literal translation


...
Kapitänleutnant is the third lowest officer's rank in the German Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Navy)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Lieutenant#cite_note-1). The U.S. Navy's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Navy) rank of lieutenant is equal to kapitänleutnant in NATO's military hierarchy (classed as OF-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Lieutenant#cite_note-2). Nevertheless, a kapitänleutnant may command smaller ships (e.g. submarines class 206A) or serve as principal warfare officer on larger warships, giving the rank responsibilities more along those of a lieutenant commander in the U.S or Royal navies. The abbreviation of the title to "kaleu" (contemporary usage) is used officially in verbal communication; the commander of the Type VIIC U-boat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-boat) U96 in the film Das Boot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Boot) was of this rank, and called "Herr Kaleun" (historical usage) by his crew.

copied from wiki...:salute:

JazzJR
09-24-11, 04:59 AM
As written, the rank of the Kapitänleutnant (Lieutnant Commander or Captain Lieutnant) was shortened and they said mostly just "Kaleun". Another word for the Kaleun was "Der Alte" (The old one). Thats because the Kaleun was mostly the oldest on the ship and the crew on german Submarines in WW2 were around 18-20 years old.

KRiPtiCz
09-24-11, 06:58 AM
As written, the rank of the Kapitänleutnant (Lieutnant Commander or Captain Lieutnant) was shortened and they said mostly just "Kaleun". Another word for the Kaleun was "Der Alte" (The old one). Thats because the Kaleun was mostly the oldest on the ship and the crew on german Submarines in WW2 were around 18-20 years old.

thanks guys learn something everyday, like my wiki skills suck :oops:

frau kaleun
09-24-11, 05:20 PM
ok so i have a very very noob question what do they keep referring to the captain in das boot as and how do you spell it? ive been looking for a literal translation

In terms of rank he is not really a captain (or Kapitän in German), although he is the commander (Kommandant) of the boat. His rank is, in German, Kapitänleutnant - literally "lieutenant captain" or roughly equivalent to a Lieutenant Commander.

What you hear the crew call him in the movie is "Herr Kaleu" or "Herr Kaleun" - the common spoken abbreviation when addressing an officer of his rank.

Luno
09-30-11, 06:22 PM
I am watching this movie right now (the uncut version) and I have to wonder about this captain's tactics.

When a destroyer begins DCing his boat, he usually just orders it deeper and deeper, without any evasive maneuvers. In the game, I read that it's best to dive to at least 60 meters, and then zig zag around. When the ship is overhead, I throttle the engines to max while setting the rudder hard left or right, and then go silent again after several seconds (the theory is that he won't hear me once I'm in his rear quarter). In one scene, the captain set the engines to silent only after the destroyer had already lost them and turned away.

So, what's the deal here? Which tactics are closer to reality?

PS - I'm not done with the movie yet, so no spoilers please! :DL

JazzJR
09-30-11, 07:29 PM
So, what's the deal here? Which tactics are closer to reality?

PS - I'm not done with the movie yet, so no spoilers please! :DL

Well the Movie is based on the Log book of the Captain of U-96. So they might be correct.

In my game (GWX Gold) the enemy ships find me even at 1kn and zig zag course and will depth charge me until my boat is destroyed. They never lose you and they hit you.

Fish In The Water
09-30-11, 09:47 PM
They never lose you...

Not very realistic. I've read so many accounts where DD's had to work feverishly to reacquire, and often they were simply unable to. :ping:

Sailor Steve
10-01-11, 12:12 AM
So, what's the deal here? Which tactics are closer to reality?
The tactics in the movie are awful. You've already pointed out a couple of the bad ones. Another is that he doesn't even try to avoid the depth charges. Instead he waits until they're already exploding all around him, then gives the order to evade what's already happened. The idea of the movie is to make it easier for the average moviegoer to understand what's going on, and they did a magnificent job in that respect. Don't expect to find much historical or tactical value, just enjoy the drama and the beautifully recreated boat.

Well the Movie is based on the Log book of the Captain of U-96.
No it's not. It's based on a fictionalized account by a war correspondent who rode along on a couple of patrols. He heavily criticized the movie, but several u-boatmen also criticized his book. In the book he gave the boat a fictional ID (U-A), and they changed it back for the movie. It's first-person impressionism at its best. On the other hand the actual captain was a consultant, so they got a lot of the details right.

Luno
10-01-11, 03:52 AM
Thanks for the replies. I just finished the film now. The ending was a surprise, and although also not accurate apparently, it was very powerful, especially when the captain watches as....well, you know.

It's interesting that he keeps mentioning how the British destroyers turn up wherever he does, but finds patrol grids devoid of merchants. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't this pertain to period when the Brits first broke the German enigma code?

Fish, I'm actually pretty curious as to how DDs did acquire the target (ie. why pinging with asdic wasn't foolproof).

JazzJR
10-01-11, 05:54 AM
Thanks for the replies. I just finished the film now. The ending was a surprise, and although also not accurate apparently, it was very powerful, especially when the captain watches as....well, you know.

It's interesting that he keeps mentioning how the British destroyers turn up wherever he does, but finds patrol grids devoid of merchants. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't this pertain to period when the Brits first broke the German enigma code?

Fish, I'm actually pretty curious as to how DDs did acquire the target (ie. why pinging with asdic wasn't foolproof).

The movie is playing in the Year 1941 in which year the first Enigma was found. The period of time simply, that the Allied now protected their Merchantships with Destroyers as escort. So that the U-Boats were unable to attack these. And many got lost through attacks of the enemy.

flag4
10-01-11, 06:26 AM
...it is sugested somewhere that the writer of Das Boot, Lothar-Günther Buchheim wanted the film to be at least six hours long to properly establish the sence of tension and bordome - as he did not want a 'big hollywood' production made - a blockbuster action film which he felt was the outcome when it opened.
Wolfgang Petersons extended TV version of nearly five hours is said to be closer to what Bucheim originally wanted...

... but for me, its still too short!

Sailor Steve
10-01-11, 09:29 AM
I agree, there are still a few things missing from the book, and some important changes, which were probably necessary. That said, the changes are probably for the best. I still wish they'd explained the whole 'Johann-Franz' thing though. That was a highlight for me.

JazzJR
10-01-11, 12:43 PM
In the short version the snipped away so many things, where you learn all the persons and about their life. This is what gives you the "I'm part of the crew" feeling.

Sailor Steve
10-01-11, 06:08 PM
In the short version the snipped away so many things, where you learn all the persons and about their life. This is what gives you the "I'm part of the crew" feeling.
:yep: For some odd reason I found the Director's Cut boring, but the even longer version not boring. Go figure. :-?

toni007
01-01-12, 04:29 PM
english version is not worth watching
For best experience watch German version with subtitles
Either way in my country Croatia we prefer subtitles over dubbing...
only cartoons are dubbed in my country.
And i like it coz i like original!

toni007
01-01-12, 04:30 PM
on my version it movie is in German and its long about 200 mins

Jimbuna
01-02-12, 10:50 AM
on my version it movie is in German and its long about 200 mins

This is my copy...282 mins

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Das-Boot-Mini-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001NIYUO/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1325519206&sr=1-2

andwii
01-03-12, 12:04 PM
havent fully watched it yet, I listened to director comentary while playing SH3. Only reason I havnt watched it is my father has the only copy, and when we watch TV or a movie together I apperntly have to pay attention like im defusing a bomb, if my eye moves away he says your not watching the movie. Im most likley going to get a copy with the money I received from returning my epic fail christmas gift known as U-571.

Victor Schutze
01-03-12, 01:39 PM
havent fully watched it yet, I listened to director comentary while playing SH3. Only reason I havnt watched it is my father has the only copy, and when we watch TV or a movie together I apperntly have to pay attention like im defusing a bomb, if my eye moves away he says your not watching the movie. Im most likley going to get a copy with the money I received from returning my epic fail christmas gift known as U-571.

Your father is right: you've got to focus on DAS BOOT. :rotfl2:
This movie is a must! I have several different copies myself.

I even export extracts from the movie and put them in the Gramophone folder in .ogg format to have a DAS BOOT atmosphere! :Kaleun_Periskop:

Enjoy it! :Kaleun_Los:

andwii
01-10-12, 11:23 AM
So I watched it... Hated the ending lets just say that. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Other then that I was so into the movie, and I was sining along to its a long way to tipperary. and it was so similar to some of my patrols.

Tom
01-11-12, 09:48 AM
So I watched it... Hated the ending lets just say that. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think it's one of the very best movie endings ever done. And very suitable for what is, after all, an anti-war film.

Dowly
01-11-12, 10:55 AM
Either way in my country Croatia we prefer subtitles over dubbing...
only cartoons are dubbed in my country.
And i like it coz i like original!

Aye, same here. Only cartoons and kid's movies meant for very young people are
dubbed, otherwise it's subtitles. Probably wouldn't watch anything from telly if
it was dubbed. :hmmm:

andwii
01-11-12, 11:09 AM
I only hated the ending because all the awsome people died. I was so connected to the captian.

Luken
02-15-12, 05:07 AM
HEAVY SPOILER!!!

I watched it finally - great film, probably the best war film I ever watched, but ending was **** to be honest, not because all they died, it could be a good concept, but how suddenly it happened. Everything in the film was slow paced (I watched uncut version), and the ending twist was so fast and so contrasted with the rest of the firm, that it accomplished a comical effect for me. I wasn't thrilled by it, I was laughing. I couldn't help myself because in fact that kind of contrast and pace-change is used in comedies. This was the most ruining ending ever for me, once more - not because of concept of them dying, but because rushing it so comically fast. I officially not agree with this ending, and wish to forget it, it's not a part of the movie for me.

Esanssi
02-15-12, 05:18 AM
Personally I thought the ending was great with its pace in contrast to the rest of the movie. :hmmm: Goes to show that death comes fast when it does eventually come.

Luken
02-15-12, 05:39 AM
Personally I thought the ending was great with its pace in contrast to the rest of the movie. :hmmm: Goes to show that death comes fast when it does eventually come.

Well, the problem is that movies are a kind of art that is formalized in a certain way, and you can't do everything, because it can backfire at you, and that is a case for me. You just can't show a dramatic twist, in so twisted way. Maybe dramatic music and slow tempo would help. I'm not a fan of supporting emotional moments by music - as often it means that the moments are just plainly bad, and music is necessary to create an emotion (I really HATED that "romantic" music in the movie), but I think that way could be better in this case. It could be arguably bad then... but at least wouldn't be laughable for me. It just needed a more work to show us that this scene is really important.

Esanssi
02-15-12, 06:07 AM
As it is with nearly everything in this world, you can't satisfy everyone.

Luken
02-15-12, 06:33 AM
As it is with nearly everything in this world, you can't satisfy everyone.

The ending looked for me exactly like that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTabJrW975Q ;)

Edit: Or you can call it a summary of the movie ;) .

Sailor Steve
02-15-12, 11:49 AM
I only hated the ending because all the awsome people died. I was so connected to the captian.
Here's some good news: In the book the captain is the only one who goes down, and according the the two sequels he didn't die either.

Real life: U-96 was destroyed in an air raid...three years after the book and movie end.

So the book and movie are fiction after all; just fiction based loosely on fact.

flag4
02-16-12, 09:03 AM
...happy days on set;

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9033/dasbootb.jpg

frau kaleun
02-16-12, 09:05 AM
...happy days on set;

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9033/dasbootb.jpg

For those not already in the know, the older gentleman on the right is the real Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, who was the inspiration for the fictional "der Alte" of both the book and the film. :yep:

flag4
02-16-12, 04:05 PM
For those not already in the know, the older gentleman on the right is the real Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, who was the inspiration for the fictional "der Alte" of both the book and the film. :yep:


...how real they ALL look.

Johnfb
02-16-12, 05:29 PM
A beautiful film with a lot to say about the stupidity and futility of war!