Strange UFO object discovered at the bottom of the Baltic

[Paul Riley]

Did anyone else see this in today's newspapers? .Scientists carrying out a sonar scan of the seabed somewhere in the Baltic have uncovered what APPEARS to be an object that resmembles either the Millennium Falcon?,or some other similar craft.
Its either a crashed UFO (stop thinking about little green men here for a change!) from a distant time,the remains of some ancient underwater base/settlement (I instantly recalled some of the stories I had read about secret nazi bases reported to be under the Arctic and Antarctica at the end of the war) ,or a natural rock formation which I seriously doubt,this thing has a distinct shape to it with clean lines.

Let me know what you think.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2021174/Have-scientists-crashed-flying-saucer-seabed.html

[Dowly]

DailyFail blowing it out of proportions, as usual. :dead:

[Paul Riley]

DailyFail blowing it out of proportions, as usual. :dead:

I take it you're a sceptic?
Personally this object looks rather interesting,and you cant really blame folk for saying it resembles the Millennium Falcon,because it does.

There are stranger things between heaven and hell,and we only know a minute fraction of that!

[Herr-Berbunch]

We do know little, I'll grant you that, but this kind of thing happens quite regularly and always turns out to be something easily explainable. I see nothing in that 'report' that makes me think any different this time around.

And I think Dowly got it spot on. Sorry.

[Paul Riley]

We do know little, I'll grant you that, but this kind of thing happens quite regularly and always turns out to be something easily explainable. I see nothing in that 'report' that makes me think any different this time around.

And I think Dowly got it spot on. Sorry.

Maybe,still bizarre though.

[ReFaN]

its just underwater swamp gas.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Or a Met balloon :D

http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/files/weather_balloon_162.gif

[Paul Riley]

DailyFail blowing it out of proportions, as usual. :dead:

By the way it wasnt just the Daily Mail reporting this,other papers too,including The Sun and the Daily Mirror.

[Paul Riley]

Damn,I just realised,I posted this thread in the 'general games discussion' and meant to post it in the 'general discussion' section.
Could someone move it to the relevant area please?.

Cheers.

[kiwi_2005]

I remember reading a few years back a news article where scientists picked up on sonar a massive moving object in the pacific ocean they believe it was the size of four football fields in diameter and moving at 100knots or more deep under the ocean. They never could figure out what it was just that whatever it was it was big and moving fast, sending in a sub to investigate was out of the question cause of the speed and depth it was at. Then after about an hr of tracking it, it disappeared. A mothership :hmmm: Or maybe a large school of fish high on some toxic seaweed speeding through the depths, or possibly a sea monster :dead:. Who knows!

[Dowly]

I take it you're a sceptic?
Personally this object looks rather interesting,and you cant really blame folk for saying it resembles the Millennium Falcon,because it does.

There are stranger things between heaven and hell,and we only know a minute fraction of that!

Yes, I am. Especially in cases like this, where the object could be anything ranging
from erosion to conviently shaped rock to, well, anything really. ;)

By the way it wasnt just the Daily Mail reporting this,other papers too,including The Sun and the Daily Mirror.

Both of which are almost as bad if not worse than Dailymail. :DL

[Paul Riley]

I remember reading a few years back a news article where scientists picked up on sonar a massive moving object in the pacific ocean they believe it was the size of four football fields in diameter and moving at 100knots or more deep under the ocean. They never could figure out what it was just that whatever it was it was big and moving fast, sending in a sub to investigate was out of the question cause of the speed and depth it was at. Then after about an hr of tracking it, it disappeared. A mothership :hmmm: Or maybe a large school of fish high on some toxic seaweed speeding through the depths, or possibly a sea monster :dead:. Who knows!

You familiar with USOs? most (not all) of these submerged sightings could actually hark back to the time of Atlantis (Atlantis DID exist,it was part of the Lemurian continent) for all we know.I mean,the arrogance of humanity to assume it has the answers to everything all the time!,seriously p###es me off! :stare:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/watersightings.htm

Some key words to Google:

Lemuria
Mu
Minoan civilization
Thule
ancient ET wars on earth

Have fun <--- dont google THAT one hehe

[Gerald]

Give back 10 seconds, because I read something I find in comic books, :haha:

[Paul Riley]

Give back 10 seconds, because I read something I find in comic books, :haha:

ahhh,dont be so sure mate,not ALL things can be mocked :03:
I wonder why the vikings spent so much time carving runes into everything?,maybe they were bored and wanted to draw pretty symbols?

[Herr-Berbunch]

Both of which are almost as bad if not worse than Dailymail. :DL

^That :yep:

Dowly lives 600+ miles away from UK and he knows how bad the red tops can be!

[Gerald]

ahhh,dont be so sure mate,not ALL things can be mocked :03:
I wonder why the vikings spent so much time carving runes into everything?,maybe they were bored and wanted to draw pretty symbols? Certainly .... there are things that can be for some, seem to be "very strange" but this is natural explanations if you ask me, :03:

[kiwi_2005]

You familiar with USOs? most (not all) of these submerged sightings could actually hark back to the time of Atlantis (Atlantis DID exist,it was part of the Lemurian continent) for all we know.I mean,the arrogance of humanity to assume it has the answers to everything all the time!,seriously p###es me off! :stare:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/watersightings.htm

Some key words to Google:

Lemuria
Mu
Minoan
ancient ET wars on earth

Have fun mate :up:

You mean UFO's? Yes, never seen one though I reckon the best place for aliens to hide out is on our oceans at great depths and if they had stealth abilities they could just be lying on the bottom of the pacific or Atlantic 8 miles down and we wouldn't even know about it. Now and then they send out their scout crafts to spy on us these are the UFO's many claim to see yet all along there's massive motherships on our ocean floor waiting to take over the planet. But no need to worry we have Tom Cruise:arrgh!:

[Paul Riley]

I know the papers are full of it a lot of times,but remember,this was originally a Scandinavian/Baltic team that discovered this.

Wish I had never posted this now,I opened myself up proper didnt I :shucks:

[Paul Riley]

Certainly .... there are things that can be for some, seem to be "very strange" but this is natural explanations if you ask me, :03:

Only time will tell buddy :ping:

[August]

ahhh,dont be so sure mate,not ALL things can be mocked :03:
I wonder why the vikings spent so much time carving runes into everything?,maybe they were bored and wanted to draw pretty symbols?

Well yeah. After all it was before Television...

[Oberon]

http://lparchive.org/X-COM-Terror-from-the-Deep/Update%2003/5-shot0082.png

[Paul Riley]

But no need to worry we have Tom Cruise:arrgh!:

Gods help us,I would rather enlist in the alien armies! :har:

[Dowly]

I know the papers are full of it a lot of times,but remember,this was originally a Scandinavian/Baltic team that discovered this.

The difference between the papers and the team is that the team never mentioned
the word UFO, nor extraterrestial. ;)

Wish I had never posted this now,I opened myself up proper didnt I :shucks:

Nothing wrong with it, believe what you believe, just remember not to shove
it down anyone's throat. :sunny:

[Paul Riley]

http://lparchive.org/X-COM-Terror-from-the-Deep/Update%2003/5-shot0082.png

What an amazing game,XCOM Terror From The Deep!! :rock::rock:
XCOM 1 & 2 were and still are my fav games of ALL time!!

[Osmium Steele]

Let me know what you think.



Pretty obvious to me:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/01/article-2021174-0D41ACC800000578-297_468x410.jpg

And:

http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/122/071/989/VDRT.jpg

[Paul Riley]

just remember not to shove
it down anyone's throat. :sunny:

Dont worry mate,if I wanted to do that I would be wearing a spiked gauntlet first :03:

[Paul Riley]

Pretty obvious to me:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/01/article-2021174-0D41ACC800000578-297_468x410.jpg

And:

http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/122/071/989/VDRT.jpg

*psst*

Careful,they think we are nutcases that collaborate with mermaids :rotfl2:

[kiwi_2005]

*psst*

Careful,they think we are nutcases that collaborate with mermaids :rotfl2:

Did someone mention Mermaids! :rock:

:DL

[Paul Riley]

Did someone mention Mermaids! :rock:

:DL

I love mer-folk :arrgh!:

[Oberon]

BY YOUR COMMAND!



Yes, X-com is an awesome game, never played TFTD, but loved the original :D

[Paul Riley]

BY YOUR COMMAND!



Yes, X-com is an awesome game, never played TFTD, but loved the original :D

Oh man,they were brilliant,I could weep at the memories :nope:

[Osmium Steele]

I colaborated with a mermaid once. She gave me crabs...

Jim? Rimshot please?

[Paul Riley]

You mean UFO's? Yes, never seen one though I reckon the best place for aliens to hide out is on our oceans at great depths and if they had stealth abilities they could just be lying on the bottom of the pacific or Atlantic 8 miles down and we wouldn't even know about it. Now and then they send out their scout crafts to spy on us these are the UFO's many claim to see yet all along there's massive motherships on our ocean floor waiting to take over the planet. But no need to worry we have Tom Cruise:arrgh!:

No USOs,Unidentified Submerged Objects,they are a critical component to the overall UFO/ET theory.

[Paul Riley]

I colaborated with a mermaid once. She gave me crabs...

Jim? Rimshot please?

:rotfl2:

...lucky sod

[Growler]

A quote from Hippy, in The Abyss:

A non-terrestrial intelligence. NTIs. Oh man, that's better than UFOs. Oh, but that works too, huh? "Underwater Flying Objects".


As to what it really is... I guess it's a good thing that equipment we use doesn't ever malfunction.

Cylon raider was what I thought of before the Falcon, too.

Finally, a last quote from The Abyss, this time from the inimitable Lindsey Brigman:

We all see what we want to see. Coffey looks and he sees Russians. He sees hate and fear. You have to look with better eyes than that.

[Paul Riley]

I colaborated with a mermaid once. She gave me crabs...

Jim? Rimshot please?

Speaking of mermaids,is there a decent mermaid emblem anywhere?.This discussion about mermaids has got me a little excited :D

[Dowly]

Speaking of mermaids,is there a decent mermaid emblem anywhere?.This discussion about mermaids has got me a little excited :D

Warsaw Mermaid:
http://www.talismancoins.com/catalog/Warsaw_Mermaid_Emblem02.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Reminds me of the 'face' structure found on Mars. Shadows played a roll in making what looked like a sculptured face. It was just a natural rock formation.

[Growler]

Reminds me of the 'face' structure found on Mars. Shadows played a roll in making what looked like a sculptured face. It was just a natural rock formation.

Is it? Or is that just what "they" want us to believe?...








*cue XFiles music*

[Osmium Steele]

When I look at the pic, I think "marine boiler".

If it is not simply a geologic formation, it could be the back plate for a coal-fired boiler, as the holes for the access doors are not present, but could be the front plate of an oil-fired boiler. That square cut-out portion looks to be the perfect spot for the oil injection system.

The Titanic's boilers were 30 feet in diameter.

The team was looking for a shipwreck. Did it use steam propulsion?

[Jimbuna]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YJvargjuS7s/Sj6KtmUOltI/AAAAAAAAA1U/ejW1FyBJQRs/WWI%20Bomber%20on%20Moon%202.jpg
Could it have anything to do with this?

[Osmium Steele]

Could it have anything to do with this?

FAKE!!!

No plane could leave that big an impact crater on the moon and be in that pristine condition.

Duh... :doh:

[razark]

FAKE!!!

No plane could leave that big an impact crater on the moon and be in that pristine condition.

Duh... :doh:
Geez... what kind of thinking could possibly lead you to such a bizarre conclusion?

It's obvious what happened here. The Apollo missions were not sent to explore the moon. They were construction missions to reassemble the plane inside the crater, with the help of the Roswell Greys that originally brought it there. To cover for the secret missions, NASA faked footage of astronots walking around in spacesuits. Obviously they would not need spacesuits, as the aliens have already terraformed the moon to be inhabitable for all the people they abducted from Atlantis before they sank it to pin Cthulhu to the sea floor.

[AVGWarhawk]

Is it? Or is that just what "they" want us to believe?...








*cue XFiles music*


I would believe anything this woman told me:

http://www.reneeoconnorfan.pixel51.com/sidekickspage/Scully.jpg

[Paul Riley]

Warsaw Mermaid:
http://www.talismancoins.com/catalog/Warsaw_Mermaid_Emblem02.jpg

Very,VERY nice!
I appreciate that,sort of a cross between a mermaid and a valkyrie :rock:
This was used by Poland you say? ie Warsaw

[Paul Riley]

Is it? Or is that just what "they" want us to believe?...








*cue XFiles music*

Precisely! man is so easily fooled and decieved and often always relies on the simplest most comforting solution,when in reality it could be something out of his wildest dreams.

[Dowly]

This was used by Poland you say? ie Warsaw

From Wiki:

The mermaid, or syrenka, is the symbol of Warsaw. Images of a mermaid
symbolized Warsaw on its crest since the middle of the 14th century. Several
legends associate Triton of mythology with the city, which may have been
the mermaid association's origin.

[Paul Riley]

From Wiki:

Hmm,old Slavic tales eh,they kind of interest me as much as Germanic/Norse tales.
Cheers for that snippet :cool:

[danny60]

It might be a UFO, it might not.
What you have to remember is that echo sounding/sonar, like light, has shadows. so for all we know it could be a mini mountin range or something stupid like that.

[Paul Riley]

All we need know is that its very intriguing and demands further analysis,which i'm sure will happen over the coming days and weeks.
Its like the image someone discovered on Google Earth,did anyone see that one?.Just off the west coast of Africa right at the bottom of the sea there is a similar structure only this one is much bigger and looks like an old settlement complete with outer walls.Some theorists seem to think this COULD be,COULD be the legendary city of Atlantis.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/4731313/Google-Ocean-Has-Atlantis-been-found-off-Africa.html

Yes Dowly,another of your favourite British newspapers,at it again ;)

[Jimbuna]

It might be a UFO, it might not.
What you have to remember is that echo sounding/sonar, like light, has shadows. so for all we know it could be a mini mountin range or something stupid like that.

True...or they may have found Atlantis.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I would believe anything this woman told me:

http://cheezburger.com/Builder/RenderPreview/1e0f71d5-f719-4bac-b08c-7bdbfc40e817

Yep, me too. :har:

[Jimbuna]

Yep, me too. :har:

Fair enough...she told me you were fugly :DL

[Tribesman]

Yes Dowly,another of your favourite British newspapers,at it again
If you note the article says as told to to "The Sun" it then links to two of its own stories which rubbish the article.

[danny60]

True...or they may have found Atlantis.
I thought they found atlantis in the middle of a desert?

[TLAM Strike]

I thought they found atlantis in the middle of a desert?

I thought they found it in the Pegasus Galaxy... :hmmm:

[Dowly]

If you note the article says as told to to "The Sun" it then links to two of its own stories which rubbish the article.

Indeed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/4735057/Google-Ocean-Atlantis-found-off-Africa-turns-out-to-be-boat-mapping-lines.html

"In this case, however, what users are seeing is an artefact of the data collection process.

"Bathymetric (or sea floor terrain) data is often collected from boats using sonar to take measurements of the sea floor.

[Jimbuna]

I thought they found atlantis in the middle of a desert?

It had been raining for a long time :smug:

[Sailor Steve]

There are stranger things between heaven and hell,and we only know a minute fraction of that!
And some of us, it seems, are ready to jump on anything and everything unexplained and believe it's a spaceship.

Atlantis DID exist,it was part of the Lemurian continent

Lemuria: Lots of modern BS. Not even invented until the 1800s.

Mu: Again, invented in the 19th Century to explain later civilizations. No ancient records at all.

Minoan civilization: A real ancient civilization, recently discovered. The only thing special about it is that it's an ancient civilization recently disovered.

Thule: A mythical, possibly real land, mentioned several time in ancient and medieval sources. The problem is that every mention refers to something different than the others. May be the Orkneys, may be Iceland, may be Norway, may be anything. Nothing special about it.

ancient ET wars on earth: Now that's a good joke. Lots of sites formed by True Believers, no real evidence at all. Here's a good link you led me to:
http://www.philipcoppens.com/bestevidence.html

The one you forgot to include in your Google list was Atlantis, or you would have known that from its mention by Plato it was likely an Island in the Mediterranean (the 'Pillars of Herakles') referred to many different landmarks, not just present-day Gibraltar). Thera is a good candidate, as it was apparently destroyed by tsunami due to volcanic action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis

If this thing turns out to be an ancient spaceship I'll be amazed and delighted, for I would love to find such evidence. But if it turns out to be something else, will you stop believing? No, you'll just look for more, because you are a True Believer, and this stuff is your God, and I'm rapidly losing any respect I had for you. Sorry.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Fair enough...she told me you were fugly :DL

Woah, woah, woah! I'd doctored the pic! Now it's disappeared - that means the aliens didn't agree with what I'd put.

Or I cocked-up the link! :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Woah, woah, woah! I'd doctored the pic! Now it's disappeared - that means the aliens didn't agree with what I'd put.

Or I cocked-up the link! :yep:

That'll larn ya not to meddle :DL

[Paul Riley]

And some of us, it seems, are ready to jump on anything and everything unexplained and believe it's a spaceship.



Lemuria: Lots of modern BS. Not even invented until the 1800s.

Mu: Again, invented in the 19th Century to explain later civilizations. No ancient records at all.

Minoan civilization: A real ancient civilization, recently discovered. The only thing special about it is that it's an ancient civilization recently disovered.

Thule: A mythical, possibly real land, mentioned several time in ancient and medieval sources. The problem is that every mention refers to something different than the others. May be the Orkneys, may be Iceland, may be Norway, may be anything. Nothing special about it.

ancient ET wars on earth: Now that's a good joke. Lots of sites formed by True Believers, no real evidence at all. Here's a good link you led me to:
http://www.philipcoppens.com/bestevidence.html

The one you forgot to include in your Google list was Atlantis, or you would have known that from its mention by Plato it was likely an Island in the Mediterranean (the 'Pillars of Herakles') referred to many different landmarks, not just present-day Gibraltar). Thera is a good candidate, as it was apparently destroyed by tsunami due to volcanic action.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis

If this thing turns out to be an ancient spaceship I'll be amazed and delighted, for I would love to find such evidence. But if it turns out to be something else, will you stop believing? No, you'll just look for more, because you are a True Believer, and this stuff is your God, and I'm rapidly losing any respect I had for you. Sorry.

I have no GOD Steve,and if you want to lose respect for me thats fine,I never asked for respect in the first place.
We are all entitled to our opinions,beliefs,inspirations etc,if people cant handle that they can do me a favour and take cyanide,its none of their business.

Now the one thing that 'I' for one cant stand and thats religious people,because they try to force 'their' beliefs on others and they havent even seen god or any of their poxy bloody miracles themselves!.They are all a bunch of weak minded sheep trying to find their own reasons for their existence,and they call it religion,what a joke.

And god is probably an ET anyway.

Rant over. *damn!*

[Sailor Steve]

INow the one thing that I for one cant stand and thats religious people,because they try to force 'their' beliefs on others and they havent even seen god themeselves!.
But you talk like a True Believer, and that's all anyone can tell.

No, let me rephrase that. If it's not your God, why do try so hard to convince everyone to believe it?

[Paul Riley]

But you talk like a True Believer, and that's all anyone can tell.

No, let me rephrase that. If it's not your God, why do try so hard to convince everyone to believe it?

Steve,

I posted a bloody innocent piece of information I happened to see in the paper today,what the hell is wrong with that?! lots of people have fringe beliefs,alternative views,out of the box mindsets,just like Werner Von Braun did,remember him?

So much for freedom of speech,what a crock.

:damn::nope:

This thread is over (on my part at least),I wont be posting any of this stuff again *sigh*

Guess i'm going to get another infraction for speaking my mind here.

:nope:

[Paul Riley]

Steve,

I posted a bloody innocent piece of information I happened to see in the paper today,what the hell is wrong with that?! lots of people have fringe beliefs,alternative views,out of the box mindsets,just like Werner Von Braun did,remember him?

So much for freedom of speech,what a crock.

:damn::nope:

This thread is over (on my part at least),I wont be posting any of this stuff again *sigh*

Guess i'm going to get another infraction for speaking my mind here.

:nope:

Also,if you can show me any evidence of me trying to FORCE anyone to do anything then I take back all I have said here and hang my head in defeat.
There is NO indication that I was trying to do 'anything' ,just share some interesting information,whether people believe anything or not is their business and individual rights to be honest.

[Egan]

Guys, can we stick to what's important here?

Gillian Anderson. Yes. :woot:

[Sailor Steve]

I posted a bloody innocent piece of information I happened to see in the paper today,what the hell is wrong with that?!
Nothing at all. But you went on to preach it and defend it and post links to 'prove' it. And now you're upset because people think you're rather silly to do so?

lots of people have fringe beliefs,alternative views,out of the box mindsets,just like Werner Von Braun did,remember him?
The nazi that we stole. Sure, I remember him. Lots of people also try to 'prove' their bizarre ideas to the mainstream, and get ridiculed for it.

So much for freedom of speech,what a crock.

:damn::nope:
Not at all. You're free to say anything you want. And so am I. No one has told you can't say it, so your freedom hasn't been touched.

This thread is over (on my part at least),I wont be posting any of this stuff again *sigh*

:nope:
Probably for the best. If you want to believe something preposterous, fine. If it turns out to be true I'll be the first to apologize. But when you insist on preaching it you've got to expect opposition.

[Paul Riley]

Guys, can we stick to what's important here?

Gillian Anderson. Yes. :woot:

I am simply defending myself here,it wasnt called for,Steve implying things about me that was not my intention.And then saying he was losing respect for me? wtf,why? :o

But yes,I would like to end this rant now :nope:

My apologies.

[Paul Riley]

Nothing at all. But you went on to preach it and defend it and post links to 'prove' it. And now you're upset because people think you're rather silly to do so?


The nazi that we stole. Sure, I remember him. Lots of people also try to 'prove' their bizarre ideas to the mainstream, and get ridiculed for it.


Not at all. You're free to say anything you want. And so am I. No one has told you can't say it, so your freedom hasn't been touched.


Probably for the best. If you want to believe something preposterous, fine. If it turns out to be true I'll be the first to apologize. But when you insist on preaching it you've got to expect opposition.

Preaching?! haha,whatever.

I hate preachers.

Thats it now,this is over.

:x

Back to whats important,and thats going to bed shortly,zzz *too hot,need...air*

[Paul Riley]

My final post on this thread,a sort of consolation if you will.

There is absolutely no shame or reason to be embarrassed WHATSOEVER for finding topics such as UFOs,aliens,ET civilizations,nazis on the moon,nazi super soldiers etc etc interesting.On the contrary it is good,as it fires our imaginations,and imagination (thought/consciousness etc) is the seed of all creation.

:rock:

If people want to call me a nut,fine,but man do I have a great imagination,something mainstream society is seriously lacking these days :03:

[Sailor Steve]

Three posts to say you're done? Believe it or not, I was going to let you have the last word with the first one, but the other two goaded me.

It's not that you believe these things, and it has nothing to do with imagination. It's that you post links to different things (except in this case you didn't post the links, you just said "look it up yourself") and seem to think that if we just looked at your 'evidence' we'd become believers ourselves. It's just like the 9/11 guys, who did exactly the same thing. And when someone challenges you on it you try even harder to convince us. Whether you hate preachers or not, that's exactly what all fervent believers do - try everything they can to prove they're right and then accuse anyone who presents contrary evidence of "attacking" them.

It's not that you believe these things, it's just that you try so hard to get others to believe them. Imagination has nothing to do with it, just gullibility.

Sorry for the ridicule, but your ardent desire to convince everyone just pushed all my buttons the wrong way. I learned long ago to question everything I believe, and everything everyone else asks me to believe. At this point I don't believe much of anything, which may be sad but I also feel sad for people who believe anything unquestioningly. You could be right, and as I said if this turns out to be a spaceship I'm going to feel stupid. No, not stupid, because I'm willing to believe it too. I want want to see proof first, not thousands upon thousands of pages of speculation.

[Paul Riley]

Three posts to say you're done? Believe it or not, I was going to let you have the last word with the first one, but the other two goaded me.

It's not that you believe these things, and it has nothing to do with imagination. It's that you post links to different things (except in this case you didn't post the links, you just said "look it up yourself") and seem to think that if we just looked at your 'evidence' we'd become believers ourselves. It's just like the 9/11 guys, who did exactly the same thing. And when someone challenges you on it you try even harder to convince us. Whether you hate preachers or not, that's exactly what all fervent believers do - try everything they can to prove they're right and then accuse anyone who presents contrary evidence of "attacking" them.

It's not that you believe these things, it's just that you try so hard to get others to believe them. Imagination has nothing to do with it, just gullibility.

Sorry for the ridicule, but your ardent desire to convince everyone just pushed all my buttons the wrong way. I learned long ago to question everything I believe, and everything everyone else asks me to believe. At this point I don't believe much of anything, which may be sad but I also feel sad for people who believe anything unquestioningly. You could be right, and as I said if this turns out to be a spaceship I'm going to feel stupid. No, not stupid, because I'm willing to believe it too. I want want to see proof first, not thousands upon thousands of pages of speculation.

Thats your opinion Steve.I dont 'believe' (true believer as you put it makes it sound like religion,like Mormons or something.Trust me,i'm none of that) in anything,I simply have a VERY open mind that refuses to close.
Oh well,we are what we are and no one can change that,and i'm screwed,i'm off to bed :zzz:

Keep watching the skies...and beneath the waves :ping:

[Lord Justice]

oh dear.... :o

[Paul Riley]

oh dear.... :o

The way this thread turned out? ,I know,shame really :-?

[Platapus]

So how about them Washington Redskins?

Are they gonna suck this year or what?

[Randomizer]

So how about them Washington Redskins?

Are they gonna suck this year or what?
If they're really bottom feeding maybe some side-scanning sonar images will identify them as contenders...

[Paul Riley]

Damn I feel a bit bad today.
I Just want to say sorry to Steve (I may have reacted too strongly to his criticism) and this argument shouldnt really have happened in the first place.I think we ought to keep our inner most secrets,secret?

So how are we all today? bloody hot isnt it,I cant stand it anymore.Last night was horrendous :nope:
Roll on winter!

[joea]

Well we had cold weather here Paul, and just got back to warm seasonable weather this week! So send your heat to us! :O:

I was a bit perplexed by your argument yesterday. I have known Steve virtually for a long time and he is a good guy who I respect. You seem like a good guy too Paul and I find yout posts and ideas interesting even if I don't always agree. Actually neither of you are dogmatic or closed minded-and provide stimulating reading-which is more than I can say for certain other posters I can think of. :nope:

[Paul Riley]

Well we had cold weather here Paul, and just got back to warm seasonable weather this week! So send your heat to us! :O:

I was a bit perplexed by your argument yesterday. I have known Steve virtually for a long time and he is a good guy who I respect. You seem like a good guy too Paul and I find yout posts and ideas interesting even if I don't always agree. Actually neither of you are dogmatic or closed minded-and provide stimulating reading-which is more than I can say for certain other posters I can think of. :nope:

Where do you hail from?,I suspect somewhere either in Canada or northern Europe? :yep:

I have put last night behind me,after all we cant all be expected to think the same,and trying to explain what makes me tick on an internet forum is practically impossible!

Cheers.

[Paul Riley]

Where do you hail from?,I suspect somewhere either in Canada or northern Europe? :yep:

I have put last night behind me,after all we cant all be expected to think the same,and trying to explain what makes me tick on an interent forum is practically impossible!

Cheers.

Never mind,I just saw it,Lake Geneva,Switzerland?

:doh::88)

[Castout]

These kind of stories is why I love living :DL

[joea]

Never mind,I just saw it,Lake Geneva,Switzerland?

:doh::88)
It's more complicated than that mate, I'm Canadian-born and bred (from Vancouver) and came here to study international relations and stayed to work in an international organisation (not the UN). My folks are Greek so I have the fondness for warm weather in the blood despite being raised in Canada. I actually enjoy real cold too since in BC we only get rainy grey winters. :shucks:

[Paul Riley]

It's more complicated than that mate, I'm Canadian-born and bred (from Vancouver) and came here to study international relations and stayed to work in an international organisation (not the UN). My folks are Greek so I have the fondness for warm weather in the blood despite being raised in Canada. I actually enjoy real cold too since in BC we only get rainy grey winters. :shucks:

Thats quite a combination you have there :sunny:

PS: I love the winter and foul weather in general,esp thunderstorms!,must be the viking blood calling me :03:

[Herr-Berbunch]

PS: I love the winter,must be some of the viking blood somewhere :03:

I love the winter too, or would if the wife didn't insist on having the heating turned up to 11. And if they'd ban people who can't drive properly on snow/ice (when we get it). :yep:

[gimpy117]

http://www.eternitychan.org/general/src/1303960860442.jpg

Aliens man...Aliens....

[Growler]

I don't know what's worse, Gimpy - the fact that you posted that, or the fact that I laughed even harder at it because I've seen that show.:har:

[Paul Riley]

http://www.eternitychan.org/general/src/1303960860442.jpg

Aliens man...Aliens....

I've seen some of his stuff on TV and the internet.At least he has the right hair for the job,the aliens he is in contact with must be pretty hostile towards humans!,probably the reptilians from V (the old mini series from the 80s,not that modern garbage with the bird with short hair) :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6996/gillian2.jpg

Redone!

[Paul Riley]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6996/gillian2.jpg

Redone!

:rotfl2:

[CaptainMattJ.]

I remember reading a few years back a news article where scientists picked up on sonar a massive moving object in the pacific ocean they believe it was the size of four football fields in diameter and moving at 100knots or more deep under the ocean. They never could figure out what it was just that whatever it was it was big and moving fast, sending in a sub to investigate was out of the question cause of the speed and depth it was at. Then after about an hr of tracking it, it disappeared. A mothership :hmmm: Or maybe a large school of fish high on some toxic seaweed speeding through the depths, or possibly a sea monster :dead:. Who knows!
perhaps it was a movie

http://hot-movies-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Abyss-1989.jpg

[mapuc]

Maybe I do not believe in UFO's enough or my imagination is very low, ´cause I can't see what it supposed to looke like. I can only see a cirkel stones/rocks.

Markus

[Sailor Steve]

Damn I feel a bit bad today.
I Just want to say sorry to Steve
Not at all. I did tweak you more than a little. :sunny:

(I may have reacted too strongly to his criticism) and this argument shouldnt really have happened in the first place.
And my criticizm may have been a little overzealous. So we apologize to each other and get on with our lives.

I think we ought to keep our inner most secrets,secret?
No way. Let's pick up where we left off. :rotfl2:

So how are we all today? bloody hot isnt it,I cant stand it anymore.Last night was horrendous :nope:
Roll on winter!
Maybe hot where you are. Here, where it's hot and cloudless all summer every summer, it's been more rain than shine this year. I got drenched walking home from the bus stop yesterday, and it's a mile-and-a-half walk! On the other hand it was still in the 80s, so a warm shower is nothing to complain about.

[Jimbuna]

SINK EM ALL!!

[TBear]

so that is where the damn car whent....wife aint alowed to park it AGAN!! :damn:

[Paul Riley]

perhaps it was a movie

http://hot-movies-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Abyss-1989.jpg

Oh man,what a classic :up:

[Paul Riley]

Not at all. I did tweak you more than a little. :sunny:



Glad we got that sorted out then.

[Armistead]

I believe in UFO's and have for the last 16 years. It's hard to identify those objects my wife picks up and throws at me.

[Paul Riley]

I believe in UFO's and have for the last 16 years. It's hard to identify those objects my wife picks up and throws at me.

Great to meet you,we are both 'believers' then :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

I believe in UFO's and have for the last 16 years. It's hard to identify those objects my wife picks up and throws at me.

Simple solution: Don't go in to the kitchen...

:D

[Diopos]

I believe in UFO's and have for the last 16 years. It's hard to identify those objects my wife picks up and throws at me.

UFO= Usual Female Ordnance ? :hmmm:

.

[Paul Riley]

No,

UFO = Unidentified Farting Orifice :yeah:

[yubba]

well now it's a uso, unidentified submerged object

[GT182]

Actually it's Paul Bunyon's toilet seat lid. That big dumb blue ox called Babe put it there. :DL