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STEED

07-30-11, 09:18 AM

Don't look at me I don't use IE.

It's official: IE users are dumb as a bag of hammers 100,000 test subjects can't be wrong

A comprehensive study of web users has determined that the dumber you are, the more likely you are to use Microsoft Internet Explorer.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/29/aptiquant_iq_survey/

Gerald

07-30-11, 09:31 AM

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/953/browserrender.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/813/browserrender.jpg/)

Kazuaki Shimazaki II

07-30-11, 09:36 AM

I'll have to consider shifting to Opera :)

Gerald

07-30-11, 09:43 AM

I'll have to consider shifting to Opera :)

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7041/swelteringheatrajasthan.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/8/swelteringheatrajasthan.jpg/)

:DL

BossMark

07-30-11, 09:54 AM

Thinks I will stick with firefox :DL

Dowly

07-30-11, 10:11 AM

Firefox all the way. :yep:

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens18018479module150640944photo_1307317526f irefox.jpg

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 10:41 AM

Quite happy with Firefox and IE...as well as being dumb :doh:

Gerald

07-30-11, 10:45 AM

You are not stupid, just a year wiser :DL

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 10:46 AM

Aw, okay then :DL

Biggles

07-30-11, 10:49 AM

IE users are dumb...because they use IE :O:

TLAM Strike

07-30-11, 10:57 AM

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2963/memestechnologicallyimp.jpg

Howard313

07-30-11, 11:17 AM

Well considering IE is the default browser in Microsoft computers it is not surprising that those with lower IQ's use it instead of seeking out some better alternatives.

Actually now that I think about it most of my family uses IE :o

Lord_magerius

07-30-11, 11:19 AM

http://troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/i-dont-always-use-ie-but-when-i-do-i-use-it-to-download-another-browser.jpg

Platapus

07-30-11, 11:23 AM

On my Mac, I am glad I moved to Firefox. Safari did not always work as well as Firefox.

Unfortunately at work we still have internal sites that require you to use IE. :damn::damn:

TLAM Strike

07-30-11, 11:44 AM

On my Mac, I am glad I moved to Firefox. Safari did not always work as well as Firefox.

Unfortunately at work we still have internal sites that require you to use IE. :damn::damn:
There is a plugin for Firefox that will open an IE tab in Firefox. :03:

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 12:14 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o22/bittertruthnavin/FunnyImages/funny_pictures_Internet_Explorer_ow.jpg

Platapus

07-30-11, 12:59 PM

There is a plugin for Firefox that will open an IE tab in Firefox. :03:

Did not know that. Thanks :up:

frau kaleun

07-30-11, 01:01 PM

I use IE. It came with the OS, I know how it works and how to set it up to make it do what I want, and I don't seem to have any problems with it.*

I've tried out other browsers but didn't see any reason to switch over permanently when there didn't appear to by any advantages to doing so.

*Could be because I'm not one of the dumb ones. :O:

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 01:24 PM

http://www.hiphophater.com/wp-content/uploads/ie_is_not_dead_thumb.jpg

Or some would have us believe.

Gerald

07-30-11, 01:30 PM

google chrome,sucks :damn:

papa_smurf

07-30-11, 01:33 PM

So glad I switched to Firefox:D

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 01:38 PM

So glad I switched to Firefox:D

TBH...I use em both :03:

Madox58

07-30-11, 01:44 PM

Pffft!!
:nope:

I'm an IE user and have checked out all the other stuff.
I ain't dumb when it comes to 'Puter stuff by any means!

I opened the first ISP in my area back when it was all dial-up!
I worked for the Counties setting up thier systems also.
The Courts and most of the Lawyers around here had a leather clad, long haired Biker, doing all the stuff for them!
(Which kept me from doing some time in the Local 'Hotel' more then once!)
:haha:

I always found IE did what I wanted, as I wanted, with little trouble.
If your Stupid to start with?
No browser is going to protect you from yourself!
I can hand you a loaded Gun and say
'Don't put it to your head and pull the trigger!'
But doesn't mean you won't do just that!
:nope:

My thought is that when people look for a browser that protects them?
They don't have enuff sense to protect themselves to start with.

OK. You can now flame me all you want.
:haha:
I will most certainly ignore most of it except for the whitty responces
I'll be required to come back with.
(This is the General Topics area)
:D

STEED

07-30-11, 01:46 PM

google chrome,sucks :damn:

Dose it?

I tried it out and seemed alright at the time. :hmmm:

Gerald

07-30-11, 01:54 PM

Dose it?

I tried it out and seemed alright at the time. :hmmm: Firefox, the default version, OK, but the chrome ... Nooooo :haha:

frau kaleun

07-30-11, 02:00 PM

If your Stupid to start with?
No browser is going to protect you from yourself!

QFT :yep:

STEED

07-30-11, 02:04 PM

Firefox, the default version, OK, but the chrome ... Nooooo :haha:

What is exactly wrong with Google chrome?

You got a friend of mind here in need of strong sweet tea.

http://internet-browser-review.toptenreviews.com/
http://www.consumersearch.com/web-browser-reviews
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365692,00.asp

07-30-11, 02:21 PM

If IE is good for dumb people then it means that it does what is supposed to do trouble free.:up:

Gerald

07-30-11, 02:21 PM

What is exactly wrong with Google chrome?

You got a friend of mind here in need of strong sweet tea.

http://internet-browser-review.toptenreviews.com/
http://www.consumersearch.com/web-browser-reviews
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365692,00.asp I do not like it, for my commitment, and that it is not particularly fast, as Google would like to suggest, and .... they can come up with something better, if there should be something in class, so I have, my "usual" fox...still http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4149/clape.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/clape.gif/)

STEED

07-30-11, 02:24 PM

I do not like it, for my commitment, and that it is not particularly fast, as Google would like to suggest, and .... they can come up with something better, if there should be something in class, so I have, my "usual" fox...still http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4149/clape.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/clape.gif/)

Mr X here states its fast and dose the job for him.

Right naff off Mr X I'm not posting any more here for you. :rotfl2:

Cheers Vendor. :DL

Madox58

07-30-11, 02:36 PM

If IE is good for dumb people then it means that it does what is supposed to do trouble free.:up:
I'd say you hit the nail on the head!
:yeah:
Compare Cars to Browsers once!
Dodge is better then Chevy and so on!!
It's personnal choice people!!

But when you start calling others Stupid for choice of Browser or Cars?

We are going to see a big arsed fight with no winners.

So I'll insult right now.
If you don't know how to use IE?
You're an IDIOT!!
:haha:

Have Mommy or Daddy setup your stuff cause you don't have the brain power to do it yourself.
:D

Sailor Steve

07-30-11, 04:44 PM

It's official: People who use Firefox are so insecure about it that they have to start fanclubs and try to convince themselves they're better! Kind of like Windows users say about Mac users.

My experience: Firefox made certain sections of my favorite homepage not work. I'm sure it's long since fixed, but I didn't like the hassle. I guess I'm one of the dumb ones, just like Frau, Privateer and MH.

[edit] And while we're on the subject http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=186182

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 05:34 PM

The question I would ask is....which is the most popular/commonly used? :yep:

Gerald

07-30-11, 05:42 PM

Firefox,I would say.

Reece

07-30-11, 06:25 PM

Like Jim I use both, 95% of the time FF but some business sites (banking etc) will just not work with FF, I then have to use IE!:hmmm:

Sailor Steve

07-30-11, 06:41 PM

Firefox,I would say.
You would say wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

But this doesn't surprise me because IE is the one that comes with the computer, and most people, dumb or not, don't bother to fool around with it.

Gerald

07-30-11, 06:49 PM

You would say wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

But this doesn't surprise me because IE is the one that comes with the computer, and most people, dumb or not, don't bother to fool around with it. This fact is based precisely on that IE come with the computer, but is not used as frequently ... so statistics in this I see as questionable.

Feuer Frei!

07-30-11, 06:50 PM

IE users are dumb? Hmm... no wonder I don't use it.

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 08:00 PM

Firefox,I would say.

Your wrong!

Jimbuna

07-30-11, 08:01 PM

Snestorm

07-30-11, 08:45 PM

Never used IE, except to download Firefox on the first computer.

For the second one Microsoft lost a court battle with the EU, so it came with Firefox.

A few years ago I traded in Firefox for Opera, and am very happy with it.

Rilder

07-31-11, 12:43 AM

I used IE for ages but eventually moved on, on this computer its been firefox all the way, though I don't like the direction the devs of it are taking with their new versions so I'm not updating it.

Kazuaki Shimazaki II

07-31-11, 12:54 AM

I'm not updating Firefox after I realized Google Toolbar stops working with FF5.

(Don't tell it it is a spyware tool. Who cares. Google knows all about my Net life already so I might as well get some convenience like auto web translation)

antikristuseke

07-31-11, 01:07 AM

I have been using Opera for years now simply because it has features which I use that do not exist in IE and I am more comfortable with it than with either chrome or firefox due to years of usage.

Fish

07-31-11, 04:56 AM

Biggles

07-31-11, 05:34 AM

I have been using Opera for years now simply because it has features which I use that do not exist in IE and I am more comfortable with it than with either chrome or firefox due to years of usage.

Opera all the way! :up:

Reece

07-31-11, 05:45 AM

Opera all the way! :up:
http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/op.jpg

Anthony W.

07-31-11, 04:56 PM

I love Chrome. Fast, simple, no annoying tool bars or anything else.

Just straight up browsing.

And the pop up blocker is pretty good.

Jimbuna

07-31-11, 06:30 PM

I love Chrome. Fast, simple, no annoying tool bars or anything else.

Just straight up browsing.

And the pop up blocker is pretty good.

Would you also include the time lapse with that accolade? :hmmm:

AVGWarhawk

08-01-11, 08:14 AM

I use IE. I'm dumb as a box of rocks. Many on this forum prove that day after day. :up:

Garion

08-01-11, 09:00 AM

My big problem with IE is that it did not and probably still does not comply with the WC3 standard. Microsofts attempt to subvert this standard has been a real pita for me over the years, I am retired now but it still rankles.

Oh and I mostly use FF and IE (but only when I really have to)

Cheers

Garion

Herr-Berbunch

08-01-11, 09:40 AM

It's all very well linking the wiki page that shows IE on top, but IE comes (or came) as the default browser and only some (pick a number between 1-20) percent of people actually know that they could choose another browser. And a lot of corporate systems will be (or should be) locked as to not allow users to install their own flavour or browser. Then you get the old 'but I use it at work' line. So I'm not say IE users are dumb, but the majority are either unaware, lazy or scared. Those that have tried others, and returned to IE then that's okay, you've made an informed decision.

Maybe the question should be something like: If you are relatively competent at downloading and installing software, and are fully aware of the options available, what internet browser would you use?

Myself, I've used all the usual suspects, and FF is the one I've got along with the best (but I've still had some issues), IE took too long to introduce tabbed browsing, and along with Opera and Chrome I just had 'uncomfortable' feelings using.

Looking at another graph on that wiki page, FF usage has stay pretty stagnant in the last three years, with IE going from almost 70% to 40% of the market share. Google's Chrome being the most improving.

I use Dolphin on my phone, it's okay but am open to suggestions for a replacement. :D

Sailor Steve

08-01-11, 01:45 PM

It's all very well linking the wiki page that shows IE on top, but IE comes (or came) as the default browser and only some (pick a number between 1-20) percent of people actually know that they could choose another browser.
All well and good, and you're probably right, but my link was in response to one specific comment, nothing more. As I said, I'd probably be using FireFox as well if it wasn't for one bad incident, which is probably long since corrected.

My opinion is that everyone uses what they use because they're happy with it and see no need to change. All the arguments for or against are just excuses to keep using the one we like.

kiwi_2005

08-01-11, 02:28 PM

IE 9 is not bad I actually enjoyed IE 9 for a few days, then thought it was a load of sh*t by day 3 and went back to Opera and FF. Besides two browsers is enough for me no need for a 3rd.

08-01-11, 02:51 PM

Lets just say that browser war is the best thing that happened to IE.
I remember the win95/98 times when IE was pile of crap and then Netscape appeared with fast light and secure browser.
Nowadays i tried chrome which i did not like at all.
FF is good but i just cant be bothered with it.
IE has come long way and there is no benefit for me in using FF.
Still its good that the competition exists.
I use opera with my Nokia c7 which is best mobile browser for symbian.

frau kaleun

08-01-11, 03:05 PM

Lol, the only thing I remember about Nutscrape is how quickly I uninstalled it from the first couple of computers I owned. :haha:

Ducimus

08-01-11, 03:08 PM

http://troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/i-dont-always-use-ie-but-when-i-do-i-use-it-to-download-another-browser.jpg

http://www.hiphophater.com/wp-content/uploads/ie_is_not_dead_thumb.jpg

Or some would have us believe.

Awesome! And so true.

google chrome,sucks :damn:

Google chrome isn't the best browser, but it does have it's uses and is less prone to spyware/malware then IE.

As ive hinted at a few times over the years. I work for an internet secruity corp. I use multiple web browsers, every day as part of my job, on what i can honestly say is at, a professional level.

At my work, internally, the shift away from Internet Explorer was done as was possible. We used it for years, but the fact of the matter is, using IE is like fitting a screen door on a submarine. It's just full of holes.

Now the nice thing about chrome, is the built in translation tools. Which in my line of work, is very handy. Also ALL browsers will crash, but chrome seems to handle browser crash's exceptionally well. It doesn't always bomb out to the desk top.

All told though, my personal favorite is Firefox 5.0

AVGWarhawk

08-01-11, 03:33 PM

But seriously, I use IE. I see nothing wrong with it. Today I downloaded Chrome on my work computer so I could try it. I set all the bookmarks and such. It seems a bit faster. I see were it blocks malware and other crap looking to destroy your computer. I use FF at work as well because a few programs are designed to work on FF and not IE that I use daily. Other then that IE, Chrome, FF all seem the same to me because all I do is go to basically the same site daily. These site are not an issue for any browser I use.

Ducimus

08-02-11, 01:00 PM

Okay dokey... soo today im using IE, and it's not by choice.

Within 20 minutes ive seen stuff i haven't seen in years.

Let me put it this way. IE has entirely too much access to windows. You know the security on IE suck's when you click on one site, and suddenly you multiple new tab spam popping up in an existing session of firefox. That's not a fault of firefox, that's IE having too much access to windows functionality, and it's that much easier to get a virus or trojan using IE.

I'm sorry, but as someone who's used multiple varients of browsers over the years, i have only one thought.

People still use IE? WOW. This browser is BAD. REALLY bad. Seriously, no offence, but in my opinion, anyone still running this crappy browser, may as well have filled out and signed DD Form ID-10-T.

TheSatyr

08-02-11, 06:34 PM

I used to use netscape all the time,then went to mozilla and now firefox. I never cared much for IE

kiwi_2005

08-02-11, 06:50 PM

I used to use netscape all the time,then went to mozilla and now firefox. I never cared much for IE

Netscape & IE wars back when windows 95 rein

FIREWALL

08-02-11, 11:12 PM

I think useing what works easiest for you is smart. :yep:

I think insulting them for useing what they like, and works best for them shows, the real ignorance. :yep:

btw Google Chrome doesn't work for me either. :DL

joea

08-03-11, 06:34 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA we all got one pulled over us. I'll bet it was those lulzsec guys or anonymous or maybe a firefox or google shill.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14389430

Internet Explorer story was bogus

A story which suggested that users of Internet Explorer have a lower IQ that people who chose other browsers appears to have been an elaborate hoax.
A number of media organisations, including the BBC, reported on the research, put out by Canadian firm ApTiquant.
It later emerged that the company's website was only recently set up and staff images were copied from a legitimate business in Paris.
It is unclear who was behind the stunt.

Herr-Berbunch

08-03-11, 06:45 AM

I didn't see STEED's link, just thought it was his own opinion.

And then I realised it wasn't against any politician! :D

FF FTW

AVGWarhawk

08-03-11, 10:22 AM

A BBC investigation has revealed that a widely cited survey claiming Internet Explorer users had lower IQs than people using other web browsers was a hoax.
The survey, reported by numerous major media websites -- including CNN, the Daily Mail, Forbes, FoxNews.com, and the BBC itself -- turned out to be bogus after BBC readers looked into the research firm behind the outrageous claims.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/08/03/internet-explorer-users-arent-dumber-after-all/#ixzz1TynsnG8Y

08-03-11, 10:27 AM

Who is dumb?
Media makes people dumb or is it just the representative of people?
I wander what browser they use at BBC.:rotfl2:

Jimbuna

08-03-11, 11:30 AM

Who is dumb?
Media makes people dumb or is it just the representative of people?
I wander what browser they use at BBC.:rotfl2:

News Internationals :DL

Ducimus

08-03-11, 12:06 PM

I think insulting them for useing what they like, and works best for them shows, the real ignorance. :yep:

Not when browser and computer security is an issue. Or, i could just rewind and say.. sure, use whatever you like. But when you pick up a nasty gorilla ware that FUBAR's your system to the point of needing to reformat your drive.... don't come crying to me.

And yes, ive seen some hellacious malware while on the job. The best ones are from russia. The most magnificant malware i have ever seen redid the desktop back ground, all desktop icons, put in a URL redirection to a specific site whenever you opened ANY web browser, locked down all computer options so you could not change them, AND... the icing on the cake... disabled any access to safe mode. Whoever authored that bit of microcode, has my admiration. It was the most beautiful thing i have ever seen. (and i say that tongue in cheek.) Any possible method to get around the malware to remove it, was thoguht of. Safe mode, reg edit, etc. All disabled. I couldn't even delete any DLL files. NOTHING. The computer was completely locked down. Period. Hence, my workstation took a happy trip to reformat land.

Guess which browser was used when THAT malware was picked up? Yup, you guessed it, IE. That didn't happen in other browsers.

Arclight

08-05-11, 05:53 AM

Think IE is targeted by more malware since it's penetration is much higher, hence it is perceived as less secure.

Yup, another idiot here. Never gave me any trouble, so don't see the need to replace it. I will if/when it does though, not exactly loyal to it.

Last time I checked, the whole "browser x is faster/more secure" was debunked 3 times over anyway, don't see the point. :hmmm:

Also: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20087508-71/relief-ie-users-not-stupid-after-all/

So there. :O:

Ducimus

08-05-11, 11:29 AM

Well, i don't expect to convince anyone just on my say so how crappy IE really is. I personally hate IE, not because it's by Microsoft, but because the worst experiences i have had in 11 (working on 12) years of employment for an internet security and filtering corporation have always been with Internet Explorer. As the net goes, you name it, and ive seen it. I've used several browsers. All have their issues, but as security and exposure to malware, viruses and the like go, IE is the worst offender.

edit:
If one MUST use IE, and does alot of web surfing, then i would strongly recommend installing ReturnIL.

http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/

It locks down your system, freezes it to it's exact configuration when installed. Every time you reboot your computer, it's rolled back to the saved configuration. Changes made to your system, do not stick. Get a virus or malware? Just reboot. It goes away. Even changes to any productivity application files like word, excel, etc do not stick. However, you can specify a virtual drive to store your documents so you can save your work. We use this at my work, and it's done a good job of keeping workstations out of desktop support for troubleshooting.

Arclight

08-05-11, 01:12 PM

Can't speak for others, but for me it's not a matter of MUSTING to use it, it's just that all these horrors people speak off never seem to find me. Along with the fact that I never have any of those "page x won't load" issues people seem to be having pretty much constantly with other browsers.

It may be a POS browser, but it simply has never failed me, while I see plenty of complaints about just about every other one.

Honestly, in all the years I've used a PC, I've never pulled in anyting malicious simply by browsing. I've had 1 or 2 infections from some nasty imbedded in a downloaded file, but that's me being a dumbass and my AV failing miserably.

Not saying I don't believe you, but maybe it has more to do with the user than with the browser. :-?

Ducimus

08-05-11, 01:39 PM

Can't speak for others, but for me it's not a matter of MUSTING to use it, it's just that all these horrors people speak off never seem to find me.

For the most part they won't if you stick to mainstream, reputable sites.

cnn.com, msn.com, bbc.co.uk, fandango.com, moviephone.com, amazon.com, etc etc.

Where you run risks, is if you start poking around for:

- free stuff, such as movie, game, or MP3 downloads.

- hacks, cheats, trainers, noCD fix's, etc, etc.

- porn

- Any site that isn't neccessarily nefarious in nature, but is not mainstream. Sometimes they'll get something embedded in an ad and not know it. Off the beaten track gaming sites, etc.

- one of the crapload of sites that exist soley to generate traffic. Coming accross one of these is relatively easy because they alter their keywords to show up in search results.

- anything with a .RU domain extension. :shifty: :haha:

Generally speaking, so long as you stay on the beaten track, visit the same sites each day, and don't go poking around too much, your fine. It doesnt matter what browser you use at that point. It's not like the devil is gonna jump out of your monitor if all you do is visit the same 3 or 4 sites every day.

Edit: I feel strongly about this subject, only because it is my job to plumb the depths of depravity on the internet. IE, is bad mojo in that regard.

Arclight

08-05-11, 02:37 PM

Feeling strongly about something is not nescesarily a bad thing. Sometimes it's because the person is just a fanboy, and sometimes it's because that person actually knows what they're on about (and is tired of being mistaken for a fanboy :lol: ).

For one thing, you're the first one to present a coherent argument about why to avoid IE. To such a degree that I'm seriously considering a replacement at this point, that's definetly a first.

It's true I don't venture to places I don't trust. Anything that looks even remotely shady is immediatly closed, I don't click on any link unless I know where it leads. That said, you never know... :hmmm:

(not to say I never venture off the beaten track, but never too far)

08-05-11, 02:58 PM

For the most part they won't if you stick to mainstream, reputable sites.

cnn.com, msn.com, bbc.co.uk, fandango.com, moviephone.com, amazon.com, etc etc.

Where you run risks, is if you start poking around for:

- free stuff, such as movie, game, or MP3 downloads.

- hacks, cheats, trainers, noCD fix's, etc, etc.

- porn

- Any site that isn't neccessarily nefarious in nature, but is not mainstream. Sometimes they'll get something embedded in an ad and not know it. Off the beaten track gaming sites, etc.

- one of the crapload of sites that exist soley to generate traffic. Coming accross one of these is relatively easy because they alter their keywords to show up in search results.

- anything with a .RU domain extension. :shifty: :haha:

Generally speaking, so long as you stay on the beaten track, visit the same sites each day, and don't go poking around too much, your fine. It doesn't matter what browser you use at that point. It's not like the devil is gonna jump out of your monitor if all you do is visit the same 3 or 4 sites every day.

Edit: I feel strongly about this subject, only because it is my job to plumb the depths of depravity on the internet. IE, is bad mojo in that regard.

The real solution and not 100 % fool prof is to have additional AV and AS software with real time protection..
It does not guarantee security if you visit the dark corners of Internet just as FF or any other browser.
Its also good to know what processes your PC should run.
Probably the best solution is to use Linux or mac because they are the least targeted platforms.
Most important be careful where ans what you click.

AVGWarhawk

08-05-11, 03:09 PM

The real solution is turn off the computer and read a book. :DL

Jimbuna

08-05-11, 03:18 PM

The real solution is turn off the computer and read a book. :DL

Rgr that....I've been dumb all my life, just never realised it :doh:

AVGWarhawk

08-05-11, 03:22 PM

Rgr that....I've been dumb all my life, just never realised it :doh:

I get told I'm dumb daily. :o

Jimbuna

08-05-11, 03:29 PM

I get told I'm dumb daily. :o

Do what I did (and I know your not ny age yet....LOL).......pay off the mortgage and any credit cards etc.

AND NEVER LET THE BUGGAS FORGET IT :03:

Ducimus

08-05-11, 04:08 PM

The real solution and not 100 % fool prof is to have additional AV and AS software with real time protection..
It does not guarantee security if you visit the dark corners of Internet just as FF or any other browser.
Its also good to know what processes your PC should run.
Probably the best solution is to use Linux or mac because they are the least targeted platforms.
Most important be careful where ans what you click.

This is true. Although i removed the anti virus off my home/gaming PC because it was eating system resources i wanted to save. Risky behavior, but i feel i know what i'm doing.

Ideally, if your on the extra cautious train:

- Run an Anti virus
- run a personal firewall. (This allows you to catch any unwanted inbound OR outbound data, this is about as important as running an AV itself)
- Visit only trusted sites
- keep your OS up to date
- Use any browser other then IE. :O:

( and if you jump on the "just how bad can the internet really be" train, install ReturnIL i linked to earlier. )

of that list, the only thing i don't do, is run an Anti virus because i'm a scrooge with my system memory. (WinXP with 2 gigs, these days thats minimal and not optimal for gaming)