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Feuer Frei!
07-16-11, 04:53 AM
DOJ: We can force you to decrypt that laptop:



The Colorado prosecution of a woman accused of a mortgage scam will test whether the government can punish you for refusing to disclose your encryption passphrase.
The Obama administration has asked a federal judge to order the defendant, Ramona Fricosu, to decrypt an encrypted laptop that police found in her bedroom during a raid of her home.
Because Fricosu has opposed the proposal, this could turn into a precedent-setting case. No U.S. appeals court appears to have ruled on whether such an order would be legal or not under the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment, which broadly protects Americans' right to remain silent.

In a brief filed last Friday, Fricosu's Colorado Springs-based attorney, Philip Dubois, said defendants can't be constitutionally obligated to help the government interpret their files. "If agents execute a search warrant and find, say, a diary handwritten in code, could the target be compelled to decode, i.e., decrypt, the diary?"
To the U.S. Justice Department, though, the requested court order represents a simple extension of prosecutors' long-standing ability to assemble information that could become evidence during a trial. The department claims:

Public interests will be harmed absent requiring defendants to make available unencrypted contents in circumstances like these. Failing to compel Ms. Fricosu amounts to a concession to her and potential criminals (be it in child exploitation, national security, terrorism, financial crimes or drug trafficking cases) that encrypting all inculpatory digital evidence will serve to defeat the efforts of law enforcement officers to obtain such evidence through judicially authorized search warrants, and thus make their prosecution impossible.

Prosecutors stressed that they don't actually require the passphrase itself, meaning Fricosu would be permitted to type it in and unlock the files without anyone looking over her shoulder. They say they want only the decrypted data and are not demanding "the password to the drive, either orally or in written form."
The question of whether a criminal defendant can be legally compelled to cough up his encryption passphrase remains an unsettled one, with law review articles for at least the last 15 years arguing the merits of either approach. (A U.S. Justice Department attorney wrote an article in 1996, for instance, titled "Compelled Production of Plaintext and Keys.")

On the other hand are civil libertarians citing other Supreme Court cases that conclude Americans can't be forced to give "compelled testimonial communications" and extending the legal shield of the Fifth Amendment to encryption passphrases. Courts already have ruled that that such protection extends to the contents of a defendant's mind, so why shouldn't a passphrase be shielded as well?
Because this involves a Fifth Amendment claim, Colorado prosecutors took the unusual step of seeking approval from headquarters in Washington, D.C.: On May 5, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer sent a letter to John Walsh, the U.S. Attorney for Colorado, saying "I hereby approve your request."
While the U.S. Supreme Court has not confronted the topic, a handful of lower courts have.



SOURCE (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20078312-281/doj-we-can-force-you-to-decrypt-that-laptop/)

Kazuaki Shimazaki II
07-16-11, 06:09 AM
My sympathies are entirely with the woman. I don't care what she had done - this is just another act of government attempting to extend its tyranny. Let's hope the court recognizes this and refuses.

Platapus
07-16-11, 06:39 AM
A very interesting case indeed.

I don't think the government's case will pass judicial review. There are precedents concerning locked containers that I feel would apply.

If the police have a search warrant and need to get in to a locked container, they can ask you for the key/combination. If you refuse, the police can use other methods of gaining access to the container at the risk of destroying the container and at the risk of destroying the evidence in the container. The owner of the container has never been compelled to provide the key or combination. If the police find the key, either in your house or on your person, they can use that.

But a search warrant is not an interrogation order, but an order to passively allow police to enter, search, and seize items. The term passive is the key. If the police serve you with a search warrant and then ask you "please tell us where the drugs are hidden", you are not compelled to answer. That would be a violation of the 5th amendment.

Why would a laptop computer be any different? Under precedent, the police can seize a computer and use what ever method they can to gain access to and retrieve the data. This may include destructively disassembling the computer and using any method they have of directly accessing the hard drive.

But the key is that it is the police that is taking the actions, not the citizen.

I am not sure this is so much a 5th amendment issue as a 4th amendment issue. But in any case, I don't think this will pass judicial review. :nope: