Is SH5 awful?

[thefarside]

Hello there, shipmates. I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but I haven't found anything.

I have played SH3 & 4, both of which I very much enjoyed, but it was some time ago. I played SH4 1-2 years ago, and I loved it, but recently I tried installing SH3, but it didn't seem to work at all.

Now, I am interested in SH5, but all the reviews seem to agree on it being lousy. I realize, however, that these reviews were written when the game was new and with no regards to the mods that (hopefully) are out there today.

Now, more than a year later, I wonder what has happened. Is it patched and modded towards perfection? What mods are a must?

Is SH5, today, comparable to SH3 in terms of immersion and non-graphic realism?

[radcapricorn]

The stock game is arcade, not a sim IMHO. But mods change everything. You can see for yourself in these videos (http://subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=181538).

As for "necessary mods", try sober's excellent recommendations (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?u=223410) and this thread (http://subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162013). TheDarkWraith's NewUIs is a must for sure.

[Herr-Berbunch]

It is a pretty game, and the mods have made it much, much better than stock. For the price you can pick it up now it's worth a punt :yep:

And welcome aboard :salute:

[mookiemookie]

I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but I haven't found anything.

Pretty much every other thread in the SH5 forum asks the same question. I suggest browsing a couple pages back and you'll see many many threads full comments about the state of the game.

[Takeda Shingen]

No, SH5 is not awful.

[Krauter]

Our search system must be awful since no one uses it :shifty:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Our search system must be awful since no one uses it :shifty:

It's not the best. Googling with site:subsim.com added brings up better results. Although as mookiemookie said, just browsing back a page or two would've yielded enough results. :doh:

[Krauter]

True it may not be good enough for searching for a precise thread, but for a grand question like this (literally asked hundreds if not thousands of times...) would yield at least enough results to answer a question without warranting a thread..

[thefarside]

Very well. I confess. Let's end this charade. I did not look very far before creating this thread.

However, I am still struggling to find the answers to what made the initial SH5 so poor, and whether or not it is fixed to this date + does it only require patching for it to be compared to SH3, or is modding the answer?

[Cap'n Blake]

No, its not awful im actually having a blast with patched stock version. I also liked sh3&4 and i kind of like the different approach devs took with sh5, meaning more involving campaign and somehow better connection with the crew & boat. Of course there are bad things here and there, but as i got it with 7.5e i really saw no reason to wait anymore.

[thefarside]

I've made up my mind, I will go in to town and buy it tomorrow. Hopefully, I know what mods to acquire by then.

[joea]

No, SH5 is not awful.
Not anymore. :DL

[Herr-Berbunch]

I've made up my mind, I will go in to town and buy it tomorrow. Hopefully, I know what mods to acquire by then.

If you can wait a few days before getting your mits on it, get it from Amazon via the SUBSIM Store link and the site gets a chunk. :D

[Ducimus]

This game has an appeal of its own, but IMO it still has a ways to go.

Personnally i think some things that have been fixed in previous titles haven't been where they should be on the priority list. For example, last i played, battery recharge times were still borked. I explained howt to fix it in racerboy's (aka TDW) supermod thread, and has anyone here fixed it yet in SH5? I doubt it.

I'm giving the game time. Honestly, i wont try to play it again for another 8 to 12 months. Then i'll give it another go.

[kiwi_2005]

^ And the craziness of the convoys I've come across convoys in the north Atlantic - with 20 odd merchants nothing wrong with that right, but whats wrong is the number of escorts (20-30) last convoy I counted 22 escorts & destroyers protecting the convoy I even took screenshots if no one believes me. I thought how the hell am I going to get inside this convoy and attack when its got that many escorts protecting them! Oh wait this is SH5 should be no problem. :DL And it wasn't a problem getting in attacking and then getting out.

But was there that many escorts protecting convoys?

[Trevally.]

But was there that many escorts protecting convoys?

http://www.warsailors.com/convoys/index.html#hx

[BigBANGtheory]

SH5 is like a good sauce in the making, a few more ingredients then some reduction and you'll drool all over it.

If you buy SH5 cheap then you can't complain IMHO, peeps that pre-ordered the game and paid full whack retail price have a legitimate beef.

Players in general have a lot to be grateful for towards the Subsim mod community past and present. :yep:

[Webster]

the same question was asked again for the 1,368th time so its been answered and the thread has served its use