End of the world

[mapuc]

NO! this is not a new thread about a doomesday prophecy!

When you ask a person, what's comes in his or her mind, when they hear the meaning

" end of the world"

I tell you, everyone is thinking of huge earthquake, meteor, sickness a.s.o

But, there's otherways the world(infrastructor, cities etc) could under.

A totally collapse of the economy in the world, could be one of them and no one is thinking of that.

Markus

[Raptor1]

A total collapse of the economy is the end of economy as it was before it collapsed, it is not the end of the world...

[Howard313]

I believe I heard the most likely reason for human beings as a race to go extinct right now is being infected and killed out by a new strand of virus of some sort. So, while not technically the end of the world, it would be the end of us.

Or at least most of us, I'm sure some lucky government officials would lock themselves up in an underground bunker somewhere. :haha:

[TarJak]

I believe I heard the most likely reason for human beings as a race to go extinct right now is being infected and killed out by a new strand of virus of some sort. So, while not technically the end of the world, it would be the end of us.

Or at least most of us, I'm sure some lucky government officials would lock themselves up in an underground bunker somewhere. :haha:
Most virii do not have the capacity to wipe out the entire population, wlthough they could certainly thin it out a lot.

[Platapus]

When people talk about the end of the world, usually they are just talking about the end of humanity.... like that would be a bad thing.

[Feuer Frei!]

Most virii do not have the capacity to wipe out the entire population, wlthough they could certainly thin it out a lot.
Population control comes to mind.
So does the Ebola virus and HIV.

[MothBalls]

"It's been here for billions of years and survived through asteroids, meteors, ice ages, volcanoes, The planet is not going anywhere folks. We are". ~George Carlin

[mookiemookie]

"It's been here for billions of years and survived through asteroids, meteors, ice ages, volcanoes, The planet is not going anywhere folks. We are". ~George Carlin

We lost one of history's great philosophers when he died.

[Growler]

We lost one of history's great philosophers when he died.

+1.

[Betonov]

We lost one of history's great philosophers when he died.

+2

And it was Douglas Adams who said: don't try to save the planet. The planet will survive. The question is, will it survive us

[Castout]

I'm not concerned with the end of the world. We each will have our own end of the world that is death.

If end of the world scenario is to happen during my lifetime I will probably be grateful to be able to witness it. Hey it's a big event.:DL

What I am concerned with is the general demoralization of the world population. Not talking about strict morality but more about attitude and ideology towards living and being decent person.

More and more people( more even for the young) are becoming simply put selfish bastard idiot who worship their own ego and themselves. They will make the end of the world happen in their lifetime if their numbers keep increasing to majority of world's population. People now lie lightly, they deceive and are generally dishonest both in relationships and business. They are unashamed for the shameful and wrongful things they do and even proud of them. They are cruel, uncaring, ungrateful and rude towards other people. They live as if they know everything but in actuality they know nothing. They may even be religious but they honor mere rituals and people based on stature than honoring God and God's laws. They cheat on everything they do and proud of it. They take no advice and are disrespectful towards other people. They believe that right or wrong is relative and have no moral and religious principle. They blame other people for their own mistakes.

They are fools. Childish fools. Unpolished even rough people. Failing mankind I call them. A plague judging by their numbers. Trash that needs to be wiped out out of existence. Undeserving of time in this life and undeserving of other people time, friendship and affection. Undeveloped even regressed people. Predator of his fellow man. Mere animal in a human skin even worse than animal because they are mankind. A sad excuse for man's fallibility.

I am even convinced it's in their DNA not just a set of mind but a set of genes. A deteriorating mankind. Functional chaos. Defective. Defect.

[Flaxpants]

Crikey! Having a bad day Castout?

[Castout]

Crikey! Having a bad day Castout?


Hmm not really just that in my observation younger generation is always worse than the older one. Specifically our politicians of today are a lot worse than their predecessors. Here the ruling party thus implicating the president, directly or indirectly is rumored to be involved in a local bank bailout which bailout money don't get to the hands of the people who lost it. The amount is significant.

Furthermore I knew and read that our last 2009 election is branded as the worst election post 1998 reform and people were just silent. Now more scandal is erupting that some of our house representatives are being so because they forged their letter of appointment.
Head of the national election governing body is implicated in it but it's not a surprise at all to me it was day one obvious that this person collaborated with the current ruling party.

There also has been rumor that the current ruling party treasury amounts to a very significant amount so significant that the source of that money comes into everybody's question.

Now our politicians are trading accusations for wanting to save themselves. One ran to Singapore to avoid prosecution from corruption and has been whistle blowing his party corruption as he was the current ruling party treasurer.

It's all being played damn bloody dirty and a it's a bloody mess.

If this had happened in Japan or US the head of government would've stepped down and even being put under criminal investigation for abuse of power.
To make matters worse these scandals in all likelihood won't be heading to prosecution. Our judiciary system falls under the grip of politics. The national police image has never been worse tarnished lately too for their corruption. The general population loath the police in general.

When I turned TV last night I saw the British Parliament session discussing the Murdoch phone hacking scandal. They in comparison to ours are a world apart :damn:

On the positive side at least we don't have an established dictator here. There are still some good men here and civil movements are well alive and our press I must say I'm proud of my country freedom of press.

[Paul Riley]

When you understand the mentality of the so called 'world elite' aka 'the illuminati' all becomes clearer.They dont like us and are trying to do away with a good % of the world's population so that they can rule the earth over just a few of us instead of billions.Kissinger,Rockerfeller,Rothschild,world banking,world media,world police,world army,world health organization,etc etc,they are all scum that should be shot on sight!
NWO is almost upon us,the signs are everywhere right now.
A quick insight into their rotten but clever tactics: create the problem (ie famine),anticipate the reaction that those people will then display (they will likely demand the government to help them with their plight),the government or other body can then offer them the solution to the problem they created in the first place (which would be the formation of a global food/and or health org ruled by THEM.The blighted people would then be dependant on this org and they would have complete control and power over them.
The same thing happened during WWII.Hitler was likely (not 100% certain,but there IS material out there that could support this theory if you know where to look) financed by the Rockerfeller family,pitting both sides against each other,then when the ashes of war finally cleared they (and possibly others) then profitted from the outcome,the affected countries were naturally weary from the endless and costly war and demanded a solution to this crisis,and the EU (ruled by you know who,the NWO construction team) was then formed so that "this could never happen again" ,effectively maintaining control over those countries by centralizing power.
PROBLEM + REACTION = SOLUTION
In effect they are guiding us down a path that they alone know the direction of.THE COMPLETE AND UTTER CENTRALIZATION OF EVERYTHING,INCLUDING OUR VERY OWN LIVES!.Heck,we even keep each other in line,everyone is their own sheepdog.

Sorry for that,but someone's got to take the bull by the $£'s :smug:

[Castout]

I don't know about global conspiracy but I do know a thing or two about elitist mentality from my ordeal in Singapore.

I'm well aware that people who have been in power for too long and in control of vast amount of resources consider everybody else as simply nothing. They don't care whether you're innocent or simply student, they don't care about right or wrong or morality, they don't care about any law. They play God and this is no exaggeration. If they thought killing is fun then they would kill just for fun and there is nothing anybody else can do.

I keep an open mind and I've seen, known and experienced many things majority of people normally don't. So I believe when there's enough evidence from observation or somewhere else or from experience. I've learned I can trust my insight and observation as well as my intuition and they have been proven. And I can always trust God though God doesn't come into picture often. But mostly because people are not sophisticated in general. I mean in their goals and desires.

[Paul Riley]

I don't know about global conspiracy but I do know a thing or two about elitist mentality from my ordeal in Singapore.

I'm well aware that people who have been in power for too long and in control of vast amount of resources consider everybody else as simply nothing. They play God and this is no exaggeration.

No matter how an individual identifies this I think the outcome is the same in the end,we are pretty much living in a time where a global fasicst empire seeks to imprison humans forever.Radical I know,but sometimes the 'probable' truth is.
Nonetheless this is a fascinating subject that all should get involved in on some level,after all,we are all in the same pan of s##t here :up:

[Paul Riley]

The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact. George Orwell (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/George_Orwell/)
English essayist, novelist, & satirist (1903 - 1950)

[Paul Riley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqeDwZgsP1M

I love this video.
Prepare for Ragnarok friends,the time is likely nearly here,and I cant wait as I stand beside the gods...one last time :arrgh!:
at 1:06 - it would be wise to take heed of this warning
at 1:42 - look at all the recent tectonic activity around the world lately
at 2:09 - interesting that a lot of these earthquakes recently have occured far out to sea resulting in large tsunamis.
at 2:30 - could this indicate some threat from space,resulting in new deadly viruses that would affect the Earth and all upon it? Bio Weapons? alien/reptilian invasion? (I know the reactions to this one already) ;) .You must admit though,in practically EVERY ancient culture reptilian gods/beings do feature quite heavily.
at 4:08 - could this indicate the very fabric of our solar system becoming unstable,some sort of massive energy/dimensional shift/displacement as we head nearer to the galactic centre,the last time being approx 26,000 years ago stated by the ancient Maya,culminating in or around Dec 2012-2013.Huge solar storms HAVE been predicted for about that time by Nasa that could disrupt the Earth's energy grid and even destroy satellites in space.

Only those true of heart will be able to withstand the glory of the heavens and its inhabitants (I am NOT Christian in my belief system)

It is the arrogance and stupidity of modern man to think our ancestors were dim witted barbarians that thought of nothing but war and beer! (we shall see)

[Oberon]

Can't deny it, there have been a lot of earthquakes lately. Heck, there was one off Portsmouth the other day, small one but the first since the 1800s.

I don't think it's some kind of giant buildup to doomsday though, and even if it is, all it will mean is the destruction of a lot of humanity, which is...in the long term...not such a bad thing.

You see, if current trends continue then we are heading for our own doomsday scenario anyway, just as inevitably as night follows day. Most of us here will not see it but we can already see the beginnings of it. Food prices are rising and so is the population, some people are living longer, death rates in LEDCs are decreasing from their rates of say seventy years ago. Oil is being pumped out of the ground at increasing rates as we scramble to find more drilling sites. Eventually it's going to run out, that much is a certainty.

Now, unless someone discovers a way of making fuel and food from nothing for a low price within the next twenty or thirty years, then things are going to start getting ugly, not just between classes (the have and have nots) but also between countries, over food, water and fuel. Some people might argue that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the current campaign in Libya is directly motivated by oil, thus ticking that box.
Eventually there will be a crunch period where we do not produce enough food or water to feed the population, this has already occurred in some countries, Somalia for one, through natural events, and the inhabitants of the Kenyan/Somalian border will tell you that it's having a big effect on their lives, however some aid is able to be given because other nations have food surplus that they are able to donate...now imagine what would happen if there was now food surplus, that charity began at home and aid agencies found themselves increasingly underfunded in terms of money and food donations? Famine on a scale not seen in modern times, LEDCs descending into tribal chaos as they raid neighbouring countries for their food and water. Will this extend upwards? Will MEDCs have to put population controls in place to lower birth rates? Will voluntary euthanasia of the elderly become more common? Attitudes towards life and death will change because they will have to change, but of course, naturally, the rich will reap the benefits of the suffering of the poor...and in some countries this will result in uprisings and civil war, stricter governments will be necessary to enforce unpopular measures, democracy will be a thing for the rich, the poor will just have to get on with their lives with what increasingly little they have.

Now, I could be wrong with that trend extending upwards. It could be that the resumption of high death rates in LEDCs will balance out the longer lifespans in MEDCs, or alternatively a disease could come along and solve the problem naturally, the planet has a habit of doing things like that. Certainly the poor in most MEDCs are better off now than they were a century ago, however our drain on resources is a hundred times greater now than it was a century ago, and our living standards depend on that resource drain, for electricity for our computers, for oil for our plastics, for cheap water for our drinks and bathing. Such drains cannot continue indefinitely from a finite resource, that much is certain, so something will have to give, however I am no soothsayer, I cannot be sure exactly what it is that will give.

Of course, going back to diseases, now that it is a smaller world in terms of transportation and migration, then yes we are going to see an increase of disease, perhaps even to the extent of a new pandemic, however one has to consider that since the bird and swine flu outbreaks of recent years, most governments have become quite acutely aware of the weaknesses of their designs, and with any luck will become a bit more like the President of Madagascar in terms of disease control (SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING).

[Platapus]

Hmm not really just that in my observation younger generation is always worse than the older one.

Funny, I remember my father saying the same thing about me. I also remember him telling me that his father told him the same thing too.

I guess every "older" generation feels that a "younger" generation is going to hell in a handbasket. But somehow we seem to survive. :up:

Just wait until the Generation Z (or what ever letter we are up to) gets to be my age, I bet they will be saying the same thing about the next younger generation (will they start the alphabet all over again?) :D

[STEED]

The day we run out of luxury soft toilet paper.


Most likely use up all the earth's resources and good night.

[Growler]

The really are only ever two things to worry about in life: Whether you're sick, or well.
If you're well, there's nothing to worry over.
If you're sick, there is only ever two things to worry about: Whether you live, or die.
If you live, there's nothing to worry over.
If you die, you've really only ever two things to worry about: Whether it's to Heaven you go, or Hell.
If it's Heaven, there's nothing to worry over.
If it's Hell, you'll be so busy reuniting with old friends, you'll not have time to worry.

[Platapus]

I can just imagine some alien historian writing the history of our planet. I wonder if the Humans would be included in the list of unsuccessful species?

I would tend to think so. :yep:

[Armistead]

We lost one of history's great philosophers when he died.

I agree, he was great.

[Armistead]

I'm not concerned with the end of the world. We each will have our own end of the world that is death.

If end of the world scenario is to happen during my lifetime I will probably be grateful to be able to witness it. Hey it's a big event.:DL

What I am concerned with is the general demoralization of the world population. Not talking about strict morality but more about attitude and ideology towards living and being decent person.

More and more people( more even for the young) are becoming simply put selfish bastard idiot who worship their own ego and themselves. They will make the end of the world happen in their lifetime if their numbers keep increasing to majority of world's population. People now lie lightly, they deceive and are generally dishonest both in relationships and business. They are unashamed for the shameful and wrongful things they do and even proud of them. They are cruel, uncaring, ungrateful and rude towards other people. They live as if they know everything but in actuality they know nothing. They may even be religious but they honor mere rituals and people based on stature than honoring God and God's laws. They cheat on everything they do and proud of it. They take no advice and are disrespectful towards other people. They believe that right or wrong is relative and have no moral and religious principle. They blame other people for their own mistakes.

They are fools. Childish fools. Unpolished even rough people. Failing mankind I call them. A plague judging by their numbers. Trash that needs to be wiped out out of existence. Undeserving of time in this life and undeserving of other people time, friendship and affection. Undeveloped even regressed people. Predator of his fellow man. Mere animal in a human skin even worse than animal because they are mankind. A sad excuse for man's fallibility.

I am even convinced it's in their DNA not just a set of mind but a set of genes. A deteriorating mankind. Functional chaos. Defective. Defect.

Spoken like a true Christian

[joea]

Some of you people either need to get laid, or just off yourselves to help in your small way to solve the problem. :|\\

We don't appreciate what we have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

[Platapus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

Is this guy a professional comedian? I never heard of him.

He ain't no George Carlin that's for sure. :nope:

[Osmium Steele]

I don't think we'll go out with a whimper. I believe it'll be a bang.

"Hey cool, full moon in the daytime... ... hmm, that doesn't look like the moon and why is it getting bigger? Oh crap.........."

[Sailor Steve]

Is this guy a professional comedian? I never heard of him.
Me neither.

He ain't no George Carlin that's for sure. :nope:
True, but neither was Carlin after about 1990. He went from being a funny, whimsically different sort of comedian to being a bitter, curmudgeonly old crank. I think I stopped liking him when his hair turned white.

I looked at some of the other skits by Louis CK, and he is funny.

[MothBalls]

Me neither.


True, but neither was Carlin after about 1990. He went from being a funny, whimsically different sort of comedian to being a bitter, curmudgeonly old crank. I think I stopped liking him when his hair turned white.



I agree with this. He started to sound luke a grumpy old man. But earlier, he was spot on, like this one on saving the planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

[Castout]

Funny, I remember my father saying the same thing about me. I also remember him telling me that his father told him the same thing too.

I guess every "older" generation feels that a "younger" generation is going to hell in a handbasket. But somehow we seem to survive. :up:

Just wait until the Generation Z (or what ever letter we are up to) gets to be my age, I bet they will be saying the same thing about the next younger generation (will they start the alphabet all over again?) :D

Yeah but there will probably time that the next generation will screw it up big time. If deterioration comes in steps, utter destruction won't come until the last one.

To borrow a nation example like Greece, their politicians cared only about re-election and didn't have the vision to build up their economy and relied on debt to appease the voters. Now Greece is paying up their politician decades old mistakes.

Spoken like a true Christian
I wouldn't know about that. Even if that was sarcasm like I said I wouldn't know about that.:)

What I hear from experience of my own family members and my own are quite disturbing.
For example many people who found their car hit on the road by middle class family car or even above would find that the hitter would deny ever hitting their car despite the obvious. They would say the bent was already there before. They are not exactly too poor to compensate the damage. It's a matter of attitude.

Some nutty people would wave handgun through their car windows when trying to change lane in busy intersection.
A few made it to paper because they actually shot their gun in road rage accident over seemingly trivial things.

There's a trend we here call the land mafia where they harass large land owner using thugs and through court in the hope to blackmail them into giving large sum of money just for them to stop their harassment and disturbing any construction project on the site. This would not work if the judiciary system was clean. The problem is even if you're obviously right the judge would ask for money so he would win you in court. Lowest court asked for the equivalent of 12.000 bucks and if this continues to higher and higher court through appeal you can imagine just how much money will have to be paid so that the court would win your supposedly sure to win case. The police would not do much and even if they are given money as what they asked they simply took the money without fulfilling their responsibility dealing with the thugs and harassment with threats of violence. The only positive side to all this is their victim are bloody rich people not some poor soul.

The difference between Singapore and Indonesia is that in Singapore everything is concentrated/centralized which would make things a million times worse if you're the victim while here everybody can be a scum.


I tell you it's all rotten society here.

[MH]

Yeah but there will probably time that the next generation will screw it up big time. If deterioration comes in steps, utter destruction won't come until the last one.

To borrow a nation example like Greece, their politicians care only about re-election and didn't have the vision to build up their economy and relied on debt to appease the voters. Now Greece is paying up their politician decades old mistakes.


I wouldn't know about that. Even if that was sarcasm like I said I wouldn't know about that.:)

Don't worry there wasn't time in history when people did not chat about end of the world.
The difference is that we have internet and can encourage each other :haha:
Some generation some day probably will be last though so keep trying.

BW
If you look back 100 or more years back then maybe people sort of were better Christians but i'm not sure better people.

[Task Force]

want the end of the world? give it afiew hours and the world supply of nuclear warheads.

[Skybird]

A collapsing world means that the hierarchical levels we have created to organise our societies, will break down - in the just the other way around ijn which they have been formed and created. Intercontinental cooperation will go first, then communication . Then travel. Then these things will break down inside continents. Regional pacts b etween nations will break down next. Finally, the collapse reaches the national level. Governments disappear, law and order disappear. Cities will become anarchic zones, energy and supply systems will break down. Finally, people will get together in small bands, gangs and family clans maybe, and none of these groups will care much for anything that is beyond its immediate needs of survival.

Biologically, our gegens will survive, somehow. End of the world means: the collapse of communal and social and organisational levels of modern societies. And the higher devekoped these socieites are, regharding hightech and dependence on external supply, the more vulnerable they are, and the higher the altitude from which they fall.

However, a breakldown of thios scale will cost hundreds of millions their lives as well, especially in the third world and all parts of the world where they depend on external aid, disaster relief, and are exposed to natural disaster like hige floodings. at the same time, the more "barbaric" people will have an advantage over the civilised to adapt to the new anarchy and the needs of fighting for survival. Those civilised people surviving this, will lose their civilisational standard pretty quickly. Totalitarian group structures will raise and dominate the social organisation.

[mapuc]

A collapsing world means that the hierarchical levels we have created to organise our societies, will break down - in the just the other way around ijn which they have been formed and created. Intercontinental cooperation will go first, then communication . Then travel. Then these things will break down inside continents. Regional pacts b etween nations will break down next. Finally, the collapse reaches the national level. Governments disappear, law and order disappear. Cities will become anarchic zones, energy and supply systems will break down. Finally, people will get together in small bands, gangs and family clans maybe, and none of these groups will care much for anything that is beyond its immediate needs of survival.

Biologically, our gegens will survive, somehow. End of the world means: the collapse of communal and social and organisational levels of modern societies. And the higher devekoped these socieites are, regharding hightech and dependence on external supply, the more vulnerable they are, and the higher the altitude from which they fall.

However, a breakldown of thios scale will cost hundreds of millions their lives as well, especially in the third world and all parts of the world where they depend on external aid, disaster relief, and are exposed to natural disaster like hige floodings. at the same time, the more "barbaric" people will have an advantage over the civilised to adapt to the new anarchy and the needs of fighting for survival. Those civilised people surviving this, will lose their civilisational standard pretty quickly. Totalitarian group structures will raise and dominate the social organisation.

Thank you skybird, you wrote those words I was looking for.

End of the world, doesn't mean that the human race are being totally wiped out.

In my country we have to words-while you only have one

The planet we live on we call that "Jorden"(the earth)
and our infrastructur a.s.o we call "världen/verden"(the world)

This can be funny in a way

Last time some predictet that the world was coming to an end(21/5-11) the journalist in our country made a translations error

the wrote in swedish "Jorden går under" directly translatet the earth is going under. Maybe those people didn't know about this english word "world"

And the earth is NOT going under for billions of years.

Markus

[Castout]

Well everybody has their end of the world scenario.

To the wealthy it's probably just them being broke.

To others it's the end of structured society.

But it's more likely in the event of major disaster that the planet would survive but mankind will not than the opposite.

If not death will come to each of us in time no question about it. When that happens what happen to the world afterward is inconsequential to us.

[yubba]

It comes when 3 year olds have to have a permit to sell lemonade, and the U.S. government sells weapons to drug lords without one.

[Growler]

It comes when 3 year olds have to have a permit to sell lemonade, and the U.S. government sells weapons to drug lords without one.

Yeah, that laughter you're hearing? It's bitter laughter, because this is closer to true than any of us would like.

[Paul Riley]

Some good stuff here folks,keep it pumping in :up:
@Oberon,#i enjoyed your post,and its all bloody true,something MUST and WILL give,peoples patience for one.

[Paul Riley]

Can't deny it, there have been a lot of earthquakes lately. Heck, there was one off Portsmouth the other day, small one but the first since the 1800s.

I don't think it's some kind of giant buildup to doomsday though, and even if it is, all it will mean is the destruction of a lot of humanity, which is...in the long term...not such a bad thing.

You see, if current trends continue then we are heading for our own doomsday scenario anyway, just as inevitably as night follows day. Most of us here will not see it but we can already see the beginnings of it. Food prices are rising and so is the population, some people are living longer, death rates in LEDCs are decreasing from their rates of say seventy years ago. Oil is being pumped out of the ground at increasing rates as we scramble to find more drilling sites. Eventually it's going to run out, that much is a certainty.

Now, unless someone discovers a way of making fuel and food from nothing for a low price within the next twenty or thirty years, then things are going to start getting ugly, not just between classes (the have and have nots) but also between countries, over food, water and fuel. Some people might argue that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the current campaign in Libya is directly motivated by oil, thus ticking that box.
Eventually there will be a crunch period where we do not produce enough food or water to feed the population, this has already occurred in some countries, Somalia for one, through natural events, and the inhabitants of the Kenyan/Somalian border will tell you that it's having a big effect on their lives, however some aid is able to be given because other nations have food surplus that they are able to donate...now imagine what would happen if there was now food surplus, that charity began at home and aid agencies found themselves increasingly underfunded in terms of money and food donations? Famine on a scale not seen in modern times, LEDCs descending into tribal chaos as they raid neighbouring countries for their food and water. Will this extend upwards? Will MEDCs have to put population controls in place to lower birth rates? Will voluntary euthanasia of the elderly become more common? Attitudes towards life and death will change because they will have to change, but of course, naturally, the rich will reap the benefits of the suffering of the poor...and in some countries this will result in uprisings and civil war, stricter governments will be necessary to enforce unpopular measures, democracy will be a thing for the rich, the poor will just have to get on with their lives with what increasingly little they have.

Now, I could be wrong with that trend extending upwards. It could be that the resumption of high death rates in LEDCs will balance out the longer lifespans in MEDCs, or alternatively a disease could come along and solve the problem naturally, the planet has a habit of doing things like that. Certainly the poor in most MEDCs are better off now than they were a century ago, however our drain on resources is a hundred times greater now than it was a century ago, and our living standards depend on that resource drain, for electricity for our computers, for oil for our plastics, for cheap water for our drinks and bathing. Such drains cannot continue indefinitely from a finite resource, that much is certain, so something will have to give, however I am no soothsayer, I cannot be sure exactly what it is that will give.

Of course, going back to diseases, now that it is a smaller world in terms of transportation and migration, then yes we are going to see an increase of disease, perhaps even to the extent of a new pandemic, however one has to consider that since the bird and swine flu outbreaks of recent years, most governments have become quite acutely aware of the weaknesses of their designs, and with any luck will become a bit more like the President of Madagascar in terms of disease control (SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING).

Wow,there was a tremor off Ports?,must have been so small a report was never made.
After all,Britain is quite a seismically active island,albeit they are only minute tremors,but once every 20 years or so it would be safe to assume we could experience a mag 6 quake,according to the Nat-Geo survey.
I'll never forget the 5.6? we had about 3 yrs or so ago,some chimneys in Manchester fell off and here in Sheffield small cracks in the plaster were seen in some peoples homes,admittedly most of these dwellings were quite old,at least 100yrs.

[joea]

This thread is disgusting, it's like some of you want the world to end and millions to die. :nope:

[Castout]

This thread is disgusting, it's like some of you want the world to end and millions to die. :nope:


Where did you get that idea?:hmmm:

[Oberon]

This thread is disgusting, it's like some of you want the world to end and millions to die. :nope:

Good lord no, well...I don't anyway. I hope that some clever sod somewhere will sort out the energy, food and water problems and we'll have a utopian future where we can live together with each other and the other creatures of this planet in peace. However I do not know if mankind as a whole is capable of such a future at this stage, it's getting there but at the moment we're still too engrossed in our own personal future and finances from top to bottom with a few exceptions.

Perhaps it'll all turn out alright, or perhaps it won't. There's not a great deal I can about it at the bottom of the food chain. :hmmm:

Yeah, the quake made the BBC news, 3.9 so quite big for the UK:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14153116

[Castout]

Frankly speaking mankind has survived this far because we(nations) didn't have to fight hard over resources.

Now with climate change, depletion of oil which is the basis of the world economy(industry/wealth) and military plus the explosion of population we may in the not so distant future forced into war over resources even as simple as fresh water or basic food supply.

Intellectually mankind has been evolving to higher and higher level but this is not balanced with spiritual growth. So you've got a mix of an adult muscle with a 10 year old equivalent emotional and spiritual maturity. Somebody is bound to fck up somewhere sometime and fck up big and get the majority of the world population into some big problem. It's just a matter of time with a climate of desperation and uncontrolled greed and selfishness to accelerate its eventuality. Hitler did it, Japanese empire took their chances and there will be others. People will forget how bad war is.

Of course this is just my personal view.