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Feuer Frei!
07-13-11, 07:16 PM
Spot on!
Sony
New Sony laptops come with two pages in the Add/Remove list of just Sony junk.
They are also the authors of one of the worst pieces of software ever, SonicStage.
ISPs
I pay you to put a cable in my house, and let me send things up and down it; no more.
I dont want your useless anti-virus products. I dont want your Desktop Help applications. I dont want your tray icons. I dont want your proprietary browsers. I dont want an e-mail address with you. I dont want your website as my home page. I dont want your help when I typo a domain name.
Symantec
Somewhere along the line you decided to protect people from their own computer, rather than protect the computer itself. You have never once written a piece of software that didnt slow a machine down to a painful crawl. Every machine I have come across that has had Norton on it, has had a virus and multiple spywares still there. Your product is so bad, its own uninstaller does not work. You sell a false sense of security, nothing more.
McAfee
Your product is slow, useless, impossible to configure and relies upon passwords, activation and Internet Explorer just to do its job. It fails on every level.
Printer manufacturers
A Printer driver is a folder with one .ini file, and a couple of .dlls and thats it.
It is not a 50 MB download. It is not an IE Toolbar, and Side Pane. It is not half-baked photo software. It is not a splash screen when your computer starts. It is not a tray icon.
Yahoo
If Microsoft bought you, your software would actually improve.
The Yahoo Toolbar is like AIDS. You have to be careful what software you download, otherwise youre bound to get it from one of them along the line.
Nokia, and other phone manufacturers
You seem to be under the impression that you are the only piece of software on the computer. Youre happy to rear your ugly face at every boot. You make a simple thing like syncing seem like surgery. Your software is so unwieldy, itd be easier to take up origami.
nVidia and ATI
A graphics card driver drives the screen. It does not include two context menus and a tray icon that handily reminds you that you dont have an SLI configuration every time you boot. Your configuration options shouldnt be so complex that I have to choose between a basic and advanced mode, both of which are as equally useless as each other.
SOURCE (http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/2011/06/list-of-people-who-need-to-stop-writing.html)
Platapus
07-13-11, 07:22 PM
Technically those are not people but companies and descriptors of groups of companies.
:D
Feuer Frei!
07-13-11, 07:24 PM
Technically those are not people but companies and descriptors of groups of companies.
:D
A Terminology :DL
Madox58
07-13-11, 07:33 PM
You forgot Hewlet Packard!
I have 2 of thier NoteBooks here and spent DAYS dumping just pure JUNK!!
I spend several days going through the install files on the recovery disks to avoid the base install crap should I need to recover!
antikristuseke
07-13-11, 07:57 PM
format and clean OS install, saves you the trouble of removing crap manually.
format and clean OS install, saves you the trouble of removing crap manually.
Uggh should have done that with my HP desktop. A bit late now I think.
papa_smurf
07-14-11, 04:42 AM
Printer manufacturers
A Printer driver is a folder with one .ini file, and a couple of .dlls and thats it.
It is not a 50 MB download. It is not an IE Toolbar, and Side Pane. It is not half-baked photo software. It is not a splash screen when your computer starts. It is not a tray icon.Exactly, I just want my printer to print, nothing more.
Penguin
07-14-11, 08:35 AM
I am glad I bought my HP laptop with FreeDos as the only software included:DL
But the article forgot the biggest software-Nazis of our time: Apple :down:
Hey, if I want to install a damned codec like quicktime, I just need a codec, no permanent connections to apple, no freaking other malware. And yes, I rwalize that there is a QT-pro version available, you don't have to remind me any time I open a qt-file. :x
Then there is this crappy thing called itunes. Why the hell should I install a god-damned store system and 6428GB of other features if I just want to copy music files from my computer to a portable player? :damn:
So sorry, dear Macintosh company, I don't buy your overpriced, metrosexual, hipster hardware and I don't use your crappy software either, even if it's for free.
Herr-Berbunch
07-14-11, 09:06 AM
Then there is this crappy thing called itunes. Why the hell should I install a god-damned store system and 6428GB of other features if I just want to copy music files from my computer to a portable player? :damn:
That's along similar lines to OP's ref to Sony's Sonicstage - some years ago I bought a teeny-weeny little Sony Walkman MP3 player only to find that you had to use Chronicstage to put music on. Not only that but there was no default to import as MP3 and it all had to be in Sony's crappy Atrac3 format. So my entire iTunes library had to then be copied in to Sony's software to then be converted to Sony's proprietary format meaning I could've ended up - had I been less savvy - with the same music library three times. :nope:
The only issue I have with iTunes is the constant nagging about QT and it's constant need to update - disabled now so all is well. For mp3 downloads I usually use drm-free Amazon, and then import into iTunes. :yep:
Takeda Shingen
07-14-11, 09:30 AM
Sony
As the makers of Vegas video editing software, I hope that Sony continues to make software.
McAfee
My experience is quite the opposite. Having come from Symantec, I find McAfee simple, self-sufficient and very effective.
Yahoo
Yahoo's Fantasy Football programs are the best on the internet, bar none.
nVidia and ATI
I have had no problems with cards or drivers from either of these companies.
Penguin
07-14-11, 09:30 AM
Glad I never had anything to do with Sonicstage.
I remember Atrac3 - no bad codec. But hats off to the brilliant marketing decision by Sony to add DRM at a time when mp3 was already the de-facto standard for portable devices...:damn:
Regarding QuackTime: there is a no frills alternative: QTalternative. Sadly they don't have the newest qt-codecs included, but it might be worth a try.
Sonic stage by Sony is worst peace of software ever devised.
I had it when i was using MD and it was terrible.
Nokia's OVI suite with its latest incarnation is cumbersome.
Nvidia provides foolproof settings.
If one wants to have more useful options there are lots of third party utilities.
sidslotm
07-14-11, 01:52 PM
I see sony are the number one spot, does that mean their the worst?
antikristuseke
07-14-11, 01:54 PM
So sorry, dear Macintosh company, I don't buy your overpriced, metrosexual, hipster hardware and I don't use your crappy software either, even if it's for free.
You actually used Mac and free in the same sentence?:o
That's along similar lines to OP's ref to Sony's Sonicstage - some years ago I bought a teeny-weeny little Sony Walkman MP3 player only to find that you had to use Chronicstage to put music on. Not only that but there was no default to import as MP3 and it all had to be in Sony's crappy Atrac3 format. So my entire iTunes library had to then be copied in to Sony's software to then be converted to Sony's proprietary format meaning I could've ended up - had I been less savvy - with the same music library three times. :nope:
The only issue I have with iTunes is the constant nagging about QT and it's constant need to update - disabled now so all is well. For mp3 downloads I usually use drm-free Amazon, and then import into iTunes. :yep:
Actually itunes music is DRM free also-just saying.
I am glad I bought my HP laptop with FreeDos as the only software included:DL
But the article forgot the biggest software-Nazis of our time: Apple :down:
Hey, if I want to install a damned codec like quicktime, I just need a codec, no permanent connections to apple, no freaking other malware. And yes, I rwalize that there is a QT-pro version available, you don't have to remind me any time I open a qt-file. :x
Then there is this crappy thing called itunes. Why the hell should I install a god-damned store system and 6428GB of other features if I just want to copy music files from my computer to a portable player? :damn:
So sorry, dear Macintosh company, I don't buy your overpriced, metrosexual, hipster hardware and I don't use your crappy software either, even if it's for free.
Me thinks you exaggerate too much. :shifty:
Herr-Berbunch
07-14-11, 06:38 PM
Actually itunes music is DRM free also-just saying.
Thanks, but Amazon is usually a little cheaper for me, and I like to think Neal gets his slice, albeit a very, very thin one. :DL
Webster
07-14-11, 06:54 PM
You forgot Hewlet Packard!
I have 2 of thier NoteBooks here and spent DAYS dumping just pure JUNK!!
I spend several days going through the install files on the recovery disks to avoid the base install crap should I need to recover!
yep, a friend of mine had me fix her computer and when i asked for her windows cd after reformatting and she hands me a stack of 8, yes i said 8 install cds and no code, all this for just regular xp home version and thats without sp1 or 2 (3 wasnt out yet at the time)
hp imbeds the registration code into the disks so you have to load 8 disks full of crap or you wount be registered as legit
Buddahaid
07-14-11, 07:35 PM
Exactly, I just want my printer to print, nothing more.
HP downloads offer just driver versions if you care to look at their website.
Apple I totally agree with. iTunes? No thanks I prefer to control my computers myself.
Symantec I've had few complaints about.
Sony pisses me off because I can't use my Handycam digital recorder with windows 7 because they don't update the software. I'm forced to play and capture the video into the computer now or buy a new recorder. :damn:
Yahoo and others? Don't install the freaking toolbars. Pay attention.
You can add Toshiba to that list. Their unmitigated un-uninstallable crap on notebooks and even FFS their USB drives, is simply clutter that clogs up booting your machine. Worse than some viruses I've come across.:damn:
the_tyrant
07-14-11, 08:10 PM
You forgot Hewlet Packard!
I have 2 of thier NoteBooks here and spent DAYS dumping just pure JUNK!!
I spend several days going through the install files on the recovery disks to avoid the base install crap should I need to recover!
+1
my stupid HP touchsmart comes with non working drivers (I WANT MY TOUCHSCREEN TO ONLY SUPPORT PEN INPUT GODDAMNIT!!!!!!111!!)
and the damn "HP health check", it always crashes, how is it supposed to check the health of my computer when it crashes itself?
Madox58
07-14-11, 08:27 PM
I could install a clean OS on the HP NoteBooks if I wanted to pay more money.
But they come with the OS as a legal version!
I payed for that didn't I?
Why should I be forced to install all the HP crap on a re-install?
And why should I be forced to buy a legal Clean install with no HP stuff?
frau kaleun
07-14-11, 09:02 PM
Yahoo and others? Don't install the freaking toolbars. Pay attention.
Yeah, I've learned the hard way to look very carefully at every possible screen in an "install" dialog. Occasionally I miss something and end up having to go back and uninstall things. My pet peeve is the ones that have every possible add-on and "bonus" piece of crap already selected for you by default. :nope:
I don't want to end up like Technologically Impaired Duck!
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/memes-technologically-impaired-duck-add-ons.jpg
the_tyrant
07-14-11, 09:15 PM
I could install a clean OS on the HP NoteBooks if I wanted to pay more money.
But they come with the OS as a legal version!
I payed for that didn't I?
Why should I be forced to install all the HP crap on a re-install?
And why should I be forced to buy a legal Clean install with no HP stuff?
Ahh, at least your drivers work
my drivers on work SOMETIMES
and when i upgraded from Vista to 7, the drivers that were provided just stopped working
Madox58
07-14-11, 09:26 PM
No the drivers don't work all the time.
That's another several hours just to find something that works.
As an example....
I was told by some software that I did not have permissions set properly
to run some Active X BS!!
Well, several hours later I found the problem in the Registry!
Amazing that HP STILL does not have this answer on thier WebSite!
And what they suggest takes several hours of needless BS and STILL does not fix the issue!
Anthony W.
07-14-11, 09:45 PM
Build your own and do not run any non ESSENTIAL CD's. Thats what I had to do.
I'm afraid of connecting my printer - lord only knows what a 4 year old printer will do to Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
the_tyrant
07-14-11, 10:08 PM
Just booted it up, so let me rant about this:
GODDAMN DELPHI XE!!!!111ONE!!!
what is it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_XE
its the latest version of Delphi, an IDE
I AM SUPPOSED TO DEVELOP SOFTWARE WITH THIS, AND THIS DAMN THING IS NOT UAC COMPLIANT ITSELF
if you actually think about it, its a small mistake, almost has no effect on it
but how exactly am i expected to develop software using broken software:doh:
Also, I just gotta rant about databases
Office comes with Access, Visual Studio comes with MS SQL, than you get SQLite, Mysql, postgresql, and a whole lot more, all bundled with other software
Really, I have no need for databases, but because i was careless, somehow there is 4 on my computer right now
Thanks, but Amazon is usually a little cheaper for me, and I like to think Neal gets his slice, albeit a very, very thin one. :DL
Well, Amazon is not available in Switzerland, heck none of the big download stores are universally available. Thanks record companies.
Another good choce is bandcamp, allows bands to martek their music directly, many have their stuff on sale on their website. :smug:
Now I'll go back to listening to Johnny Cash sing Hurt on my metrosexual iphone. :haha:
Penguin
07-17-11, 03:45 PM
Me thinks you exaggerate too much. :shifty:
maybe you're right, I think itunes only installs 6427 Gb of crap on your system ;)
Now I'll go back to listening to Johnny Cash sing Hurt on my metrosexual iphone. :haha:
At least you have a good taste in music - that makes you one of the last Mac- guys who will be put to the wall after the revolution :D
Cheers from the guy whose last cup of coffee at work was a metrosexual cafe latte from a Minnie Mouse mug :salute:
Obligatory:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7528/bettermac.jpg
Sailor Steve
07-17-11, 04:13 PM
maybe you're right, I think itunes only installs 6427 Gb of crap on your system ;)
Funny story there. I buy and download music from Amazon among other places. Every time I download an album I recieve a message upon installation: Could not install song. What? Of course it installed it - I'm listening to it right now! Then I finally figured out that it was also trying to install it to iTunes, which I refuse to have.
I actually enjoy seeing that message now.
kiwi_2005
07-17-11, 04:19 PM
Spot on!
Sony
New Sony laptops come with two pages in the Add/Remove list of just Sony junk.
They are also the authors of one of the worst pieces of software ever, SonicStage.
ISPs
I pay you to put a cable in my house, and let me send things up and down it; no more.
I dont want your useless anti-virus products. I dont want your Desktop Help applications. I dont want your tray icons. I dont want your proprietary browsers. I dont want an e-mail address with you. I dont want your website as my home page. I dont want your help when I typo a domain name.
Symantec
Somewhere along the line you decided to protect people from their own computer, rather than protect the computer itself. You have never once written a piece of software that didnt slow a machine down to a painful crawl. Every machine I have come across that has had Norton on it, has had a virus and multiple spywares still there. Your product is so bad, its own uninstaller does not work. You sell a false sense of security, nothing more.
McAfee
Your product is slow, useless, impossible to configure and relies upon passwords, activation and Internet Explorer just to do its job. It fails on every level.
Printer manufacturers
A Printer driver is a folder with one .ini file, and a couple of .dlls and thats it.
It is not a 50 MB download. It is not an IE Toolbar, and Side Pane. It is not half-baked photo software. It is not a splash screen when your computer starts. It is not a tray icon.
Yahoo
If Microsoft bought you, your software would actually improve.
The Yahoo Toolbar is like AIDS. You have to be careful what software you download, otherwise youre bound to get it from one of them along the line.
Nokia, and other phone manufacturers
You seem to be under the impression that you are the only piece of software on the computer. Youre happy to rear your ugly face at every boot. You make a simple thing like syncing seem like surgery. Your software is so unwieldy, itd be easier to take up origami.
nVidia and ATI
A graphics card driver drives the screen. It does not include two context menus and a tray icon that handily reminds you that you dont have an SLI configuration every time you boot. Your configuration options shouldnt be so complex that I have to choose between a basic and advanced mode, both of which are as equally useless as each other.
SOURCE (http://refreshingnews9.blogspot.com/2011/06/list-of-people-who-need-to-stop-writing.html)
McAfee was terrible. before installing this pig make sure you have at least 30gigs of RAM!
Yahoo Toolbar - any software that comes with yahoo I wont install.
Symantec as in Nortons, I read once that Nortons uploads the odd malware during their updates to your pc so their software will detect it making it look all pro. Paranoid user.
ISP's I do want their email when I sign up. :)
Penguin
07-17-11, 04:23 PM
Funny story there. I buy and download music from Amazon among other places. Every time I download an album I recieve a message upon installation: Could not install song. What? Of course it installed it - I'm listening to it right now! Then I finally figured out that it was also trying to install it to iTunes, which I refuse to have.
I actually enjoy seeing that message now.
installing a song? :haha:
didn't know that amazon supports his direct competitor. It would be fun however if the user got a message after he puts the song into itunes: "You dumbass, if you bought it from us it would have cost you only half!" :DL
Sailor Steve
07-17-11, 04:26 PM
:rotfl2:
As for competitors, I figure that If they give Apple a little money and make their stuff iTunes-friendly it's worth it to them for the money they'll make off the deal.
At least you have a good taste in music - that makes you one of the last Mac- guys who will be put to the wall after the revolution :D
Dude I have a PC not a Mac. Otherwise I'd have to give up silent hunter.
As to Amazon, well they should make their digital music available in more markets if they want to compete.
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