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[Feuer Frei!]

I was first to post in TarJak's '10K+' thread.

[TarJak]

I was first to post in TarJak's '10K+' thread.
I was first to post in that thread. Feuer Frei was first to respond.:O:

[Jimbuna]

The Dead Sea has been sinking for the last several years.

[danasan]

The 105 mm main gun L 7 of the Leopard I was developed in Great Britain.

The breech block has a weight of 496 kg. Here seen as from the loaders view:

http://www.kotsch88.de/kanonen/105mml7/leopard-1-4-kl.jpg

When the projectile leaves, the block comes back with the power of 40 tons, so if you as a loader like your arms, stay away a bit...

http://www.kotsch88.de/kanonen/105mml7/kanone_105mm.jpg

In this early version, you will notice a sack (4) to catch the shell casings. We were to catch them as soon as they were thrown out to avoid "traffic jam"

They used to be a bit warm :doh:

[Feuer Frei!]

@ danasan, hallo Kaleun :salute:
Could you post some facts on the steering and perhaps about damage factors of shells etc?
Since you are in a great position to do so :DL
I'm curious, always been fascinated by tanks. Love them.

[danasan]

I will! :salute:


From Mark A1A1 up to Mark A1A4 the gunner had to measure the distance to target by his eyes and everything else manually. OK, the turret was driven by a hydraulic system, as the gun was.

http://www.kotsch88.de/Feuerleit/leopard1/leo-1-5-2.jpg

Here is an image as seen from the gunner at his place. That space is on the right hand side of the main gun. With the gun in 12 o'clock direction, the gunner could see the driver underneath him and kick his back. Directly behind the gunner there was the commander's seat. Under combat condition, with closed hatches, there was so few space between them. Glad that commanders never fart...

This shows the more modern Mark A1 A5

http://www.kotsch88.de/Feuerleit/leopard1/HZF_Leo1A5.jpg

Note the modern computer support...

So, some of you still believe that German WWII submarines didn't have any space inside? They were roomy as churches...

[Herr-Berbunch]

:hmmm:
"He who dishes it out must also be able to take it"?


My Google Translate says slightly different - Who distributes must also insert can.

Sounds painful :doh:

[danasan]

Here is the Leopard I commander's place as seen from the loader's view:

http://www.kotsch88.de/Feuerleit/leopard1/kdt_%20Leo1A5.jpg

That is the best place to be inside a Leopard I. Even under combat condition there is some space for a 1,80m guy like me. And you can always override the gunner and measure and shoot instantly.

Depending on the types of ammunition and their different ballistics you could shoot and hit on distances between 1000 and 1500 m without any measurement at all. I did a lot of that in Canada with APFSDS (Armor Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot) ammunition. Just hold the hair cross a bit higher / lower.

The black one here is live. It does 1450 m/s and goes through 120mm at 2000 m distance. It flies almost on a horizontal line.

http://www.kotsch88.de/munition/105mm/105mmm735.jpg http://www.kotsch88.de/munition/105mm/105mmadsfs.jpg


The HEAT (HighExplosiveAntiTank)
http://www.kotsch88.de/munition/105mm/105mmheat.jpg we had was not that handy to use and you had to measure rather precise. But it burns a nice hole when hitting an armoured target. It was able to burn a 60 cm deep hole in steel which ships prop shafts are made of. The blue one here means it won't explode when hitting, but it would knock on the door... Both of them (HEAT and APDS) were able to stop a hard target that drives towards you at a speed of 40 km/h instantly. HEAT was against soft targets as well because of the splinter when detonating on the ground. The projectile's weight is around 12 kg IIRC. It's speed is around 1150 m/s.

There was another thing against soft targets and troops with really devastating results there, but it was gone before I joined the army. It was rather slow and had a real ballistic curve. You could drop it into the enemy's hatch...

[Feuer Frei!]

http://www.kotsch88.de/Feuerleit/leopard1/HZF_Leo1A5.jpg

What are the red buttons on the, is that the steering column?



So, some of you still believe that German WWII submarines didn't have any space inside? They were roomy as churches...
That depends maybe, if you were sitting in a confession booth :haha:
danasan, thank you so much for posting these wonderful pics, and for your efforts on posting about the Leopard. I am in Tank Heaven :D
I'm loving this. :up:

[Biggles]

You won't get wafers when you buy an albatross snack in Britain...

[danasan]

What are the red buttons on the, is that the steering column?




That depends maybe, if you were sitting in a confession booth :haha:
danasan, thank you so much for posting these wonderful pics, and for your efforts on posting about the Leopard. I am in Tank Heaven :D
I'm loving this. :up:


As that is the gunner's place, this handlebar is for turning the turret around (but that works only 12 times in the same direction!:haha:as we always told the noobs, one turn more and the turret would simply fall off:haha:), to lift or lower the gun and the red colour of those buttons might imply the function...Eins... Achtung! Remember you have this awesome 105 mm and the MG 3 which sits on the left hand side of the gun and is synchronised with it...

If you have a look again at the image of the commander's place, you will notice the red button on the joystick as well.

As a side note, to make that Leopard less romantic. It is loud as hell, inside, outside, when the shoot breaks... as the commander I once lost the ear protection when the projectile left because off the pressure, I had to regard the target and was looking out of the hatch (which is usual practice on the shooting range), I still have that tinnitus, old friend of mine...

I' ll come back on the driver's seat, so we have all the stations.

[Jimbuna]

@ danasan, hallo Kaleun :salute:
Could you post some facts on the steering and perhaps about damage factors of shells etc?
Since you are in a great position to do so :DL
I'm curious, always been fascinated by tanks. Love them.

I will! :salute:




Hey guys, you are both way off topic here...could you take this detailed exchange to another thread perhaps please.

In punishment for his murder of Iphitus, Hercules was given to Omphale as a slave. She made Hercules perform "women's work" while dressed as a woman.

[danasan]

Yes, Jim I agree. There are not that much facts in it. :salute:

Edit: I'll end this excursus in the photo - thread

[Jimbuna]

Yes, Jim I agree. There are not that much facts in it. :salute:


I thank you for your understanding :up:

[Feuer Frei!]

Ants have colonised almost every landmass on Earth. The only places lacking indigenous ants are Antarctica and a few remote or inhospitable islands.

[Alex]

No second place ! http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6858/xdevil2.gif
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[Herr-Berbunch]

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The question I have is how does Liam get it tanned without getting arrested? :o

[Alex]

ROFL :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Alex, perhaps you need a refresher course on the forum rules concerning language.

[Alex]

You're right Steve, I stand corrected. Post edited.

[Jimbuna]

Verona, the Italian city where Shakespeare's play lovers Romeo and Juliet lived, receives about 1,000 letters every year sent to Juliet on Valentine's Day.

[yubba]

Project Fast and Furious congressional hearings this week, you wouldn't know it, if it wasn't for fox. I guess the federal government bailed out Mexican drug lords too.

[Jimbuna]

The sentence "The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog." uses every letter of the alphabet!

[yubba]

Yet they still censor prayer in a VA cementary in Texas, I guess it's the sign of the times some government employee thinking they are some kind of god, I know of a sure fire way to cure constitutional imparedness 1 bucket of tar and a bag of feathers.

[Feuer Frei!]

The word ant is derived from ante of Middle English which is derived from æmette of Old English and is related to the Old High German ***257;meiza, hence the modern German Ameise. All of these words come from West Germanic *amaitjo, and the original meaning of the word was "the biter".

[Jimbuna]

Fido means faithful in Latin.

[Penguin]

Lemmy of Motörhead was once a roadie for Jimi Hendrix.

[Gerald]

Germany was a founding member of the European Community in 1957.

[Jimbuna]

French artist, Michel Vienkot, uses cow dung as paint when he creates his pictures.

[Sailor Steve]

There is a city in Texas called Corpus Christi. Who else besides the Spanish would name a town "The Body Of Christ"?

[Jimbuna]

Lachanophobia is the fear of vegetables.

[frau kaleun]

If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a giant lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Since receiving my wonderful SUBSIM Welcome Committee badge, I have not welcomed anybody to SUBSIM. :o

I'm not being mean or ungrateful in any way, just not been over to the Comments threads yet. :O: In fact, if nobody's added anything interesting in the last two minutes I'll go there right now.

[Biggles]

It is generally assumed that World War II started on September 1st, 1939 and ended on the 2nd of September, 1945, thus being 6 years and one day long.

[frau kaleun]

Since receiving my wonderful SUBSIM Welcome Committee badge, I have not welcomed anybody to SUBSIM. :o

I'm not being mean or ungrateful in any way, just not been over to the Comments threads yet. :O: In fact, if nobody's added anything interesting in the last two minutes I'll go there right now.

You see what happens when you try to be nice? You get shanghaied onto a committee. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Since receiving my wonderful SUBSIM Welcome Committee badge, I have not welcomed anybody to SUBSIM. :o

I'm not being mean or ungrateful in any way, just not been over to the Comments threads yet. :O: In fact, if nobody's added anything interesting in the last two minutes I'll go there right now.
For me the Comments forum is not the place to do it. I welcome people all the time in the regular forums, as most who introduce themselves there are actually interested in communication. Ninety-nine percent of the people who introduce themselves in Comments do so in response to Neal's prompts and then are never heard from again. I get tired of greeting people who won't ever respond.

Grumpy old me.

[yubba]

John McCain is no conservative.

[Herr-Berbunch]

For me the Comments forum is not the place to do it. I welcome people all the time in the regular forums, as most who introduce themselves there are actually interested in communication. Ninety-nine percent of the people who introduce themselves in Comments do so in response to Neal's prompts and then are never heard from again. I get tired of greeting people who won't ever respond.

Grumpy old me.

There has been a big influx of joined a while ago but only just posting to get the downloads, but not everybody's the same. There's also been a seemingly large SH4 population explosion, probably been on sale somewhere :D

I can be grumpy too - It's 0145 am in the morning and I'm beginning to feel a little tetchy (so don't tell the wife :03:).

[yubba]

There has been a big influx of joined a while ago but only just posting to get the downloads, but not everybody's the same. There's also been a seemingly large SH4 population explosion, probably been on sale somewhere :D

I can be grumpy too - It's 0145 am in the morning and I'm beginning to feel a little tetchy (so don't tell the wife :03:).
Or a sale on computers that can run SH4

[Sailor Steve]

WHOA! WHOA! Waitaminute! Where did THAT come from? Who's passing these things out? Did I get drunk and miss something (well, no, because I can't drink)? But still... :shifty:

[Platapus]

Near Death Valley, there is a park named Dirty Sock Hot Springs.

[Jimbuna]

Aerosmith's "Dude Looks Like a Lady" was written about Vince Neil of Motley Crue.

[danasan]

There is a nice little village in Wales called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch :hmmm:


with an easy-to-type domain www.llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantys iliogogogochuchaf.org.uk (http://www.llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantys iliogogogochuchaf.org.uk):doh:

[TarJak]

My Subsim post count has no bearing on the real world.

[Jimbuna]

The phrase "Often a bridesmaid, but never a bride," actually originates from an advertisement for Listerine mouthwash from 1924.