New twist on corrupt game saves

[Fubar2Niner]

Hi shipmates.

This one is puzzling the hell out of me. First up my specs:

Win7 64
X58 Intel mobo
12 Gig Corsair ram
I7 920 @ 2.67GHz
EVGA GTX 580

SH3 1.4b + GWX3+4GB patch


My mod list:


GWX - Captain America's Officer Icons
GWX - Integrated Orders
GWX - VIIC41 Player Sub
LifeBoats&Debris_v4
GWX_DFa-Flag&Pens_2010
FM30_UpDown_final
FM_NewInterior_V1.0
Conning Tower open Hatch TestFMfood
Depthcharge Shake v2.01
Urfischs_ModStrike_Beta1
Waterstream+Exhaust Combi V2.3 for GWX3
New Uboat Guns 1.2
Real Depth Charge
Searchlights_Removed
Torpedo damage Final ver2.0
Foam
WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010
Combat Radio Frequency
Flags_enlighten
Fubars Das boot VIIC
TiefeMkI(German)
Rapt0r's Uniforms V2.0 [Grey]
No Medals On Crew [Patch]
GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V6
Q Ship mod GWX3.0
Derzeitige Tiefe
konrad krumms type 7c
b25_ConningTower_Mid
Kaleun's Cap
Wooden_Lifeboats_Mod_1.1
Destroyers&Corvette
Materials file for Aces' multi-mod v1.3
DD_VisibleMines_V1.0
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1_4_SH3
Torpedo_HAHD_1024_GWX
Thomsen's Sound Pack V3
PT_SoundPack_V3.1
PT_SoundPack_V3.2
Karle's_Crash_Dive_Mod
Aces' Multimod compatability fix release v1.3 public beta
Aces'_Multimod_Fix_v1.3_Johann_add-on
Aces' Radio Room Postcards
SH-5 Water for GWX 3.0 V0.8 20 Km Atlantic campaign (default)
Sobers_3d_Waves
SH3 Gramophone
Aces' Super Turms v6 for GWX
Aces' Super Turms v6 Damo's Type 7 Atmospheric Interior lighting add-on
Aces' Super Turms 5.1 FM's Turm 7c2 Lightmaps add on
Aces' Multimod compatability fix FM's Turm 7c2 Lightmaps add on
GWX3.0 All_Weather_Guns
Merchant_Fleet_Mod_3
NA
GWX - Late War Sensors Snorkel Antennas
WB's Renown Replacement


Ok here's the problem, all loads and runs ok, I can save and reload from saves with no problem. But when my rig is shut down for more than a few hours, it starts, I load my career, then I get the error screen where you have either the choice to search o/l and close the program or just close the program immediately ! This is bugging the hell out of me, as all save / reloads work fine if I only shut down for an hour or so. All saves are made using the recommended ways, ie. no ships or land in sight, tc off etc.

I'm emploring you all shipmates, has anyone got any ideas wth is going on with my saves?

Any and all help as always much appreciated.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

Sorry M but I've never experienced or heard of this phenonema before :hmmm:

It does sound like something is needed that is in your cache and is being emptied/deleted when you close your system down.

[Snestorm]

If you have an old, self patched, copy with Starforce, upgrade to a newer verssion, without Starforce.
It'll run, until Windows finds Starforce, and disallows it.

Hope the problem is that simple. Good luck.

[Fubar2Niner]

If you have an old, self patched, copy with Starforce, upgrade to a newer verssion, without Starforce.
It'll run, until Windows finds Starforce, and disallows it.

Hope the problem is that simple. Good luck.

If only Snestorm, the copy I have is already patched to 1.4b and starforce free. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Fubar2Niner]

Sorry M but I've never experienced or heard of this phenonema before :hmmm:

It does sound like something is needed that is in your cache and is being emptied/deleted when you close your system down.

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the input mate, I never thought of that. I'm guessing that won't be software related tho, ie AV etc. Else it would happen everytime I shut the rig down. You agree mate?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

Hi Jim,

Thanks for the input mate, I never thought of that. I'm guessing that won't be software related tho, ie AV etc. Else it would happen everytime I shut the rig down. You agree mate?

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

I still suspect what I posted earlier...have you performed the PITA reinstallation?

A quick method would be to put a new installation onto a separate partition or rename a new installation for example 'GWX3b'.

I WOULD NOT cut and paste from the problematic installation because you would be simply duplicating whatever the problem is.

[Fubar2Niner]

I still suspect what I posted earlier...have you performed the PITA reinstallation?

A quick method would be to put a new installation onto a separate partition or rename a new installation for example 'GWX3b'.

I WOULD NOT cut and paste from the problematic installation because you would be simply duplicating whatever the problem is.


Yup tried that Jim, in fact I've always installed on a seperate hdd to my system, however out of desperation I tried installing to my c: ((outside *:/program files x86/ubi/blah) although that shouldn't make a ifference as I have UAC off), this doesn't seem to have made any difference. Re a PITA install, have always done it this way mate, kinda reminds you of the falcon4 dance don't it ;)

I've tried a couple of experiments tonight, made several saves with gwx plus all my mods installed, now I have to give it the dreaded 24 hour wait and see what happens. I will report back :salute:

Thanks for the help and moral support Jim.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

SINK EM ALL MATEY!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[frau kaleun]

I know there were multiple reports of issues when using TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
and someone - I think it was Stiebler - did some testing and determined that there was a problem with corrupted saved games while using that mod. He pretty much narrowed it down to that mod in particular. There was a discussion about it in the Mods Workshop forum I think but I don't know if it was a separate thread or just came up in a general "saved games CTD please help" thread like we get from time to time.

However I don't recall it being a question of how long a system was shut down in between saving and reloading, or of saves working one time and then CTDing the next.

All things considered, if you're going to start disabling mods to try and find the problem I'd certainly start with that one since it is known to cause a problem with saved games once something happens in the course of playing that activates whatever effect it creates.

[Fubar2Niner]

I know there were multiple reports of issues when using TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
and someone - I think it was Stiebler - did some testing and determined that there was a problem with corrupted saved games while using that mod. He pretty much narrowed it down to that mod in particular. There was a discussion about it in the Mods Workshop forum I think but I don't know if it was a separate thread or just came up in a general "saved games CTD please help" thread like we get from time to time.

However I don't recall it being a question of how long a system was shut down in between saving and reloading, or of saves working one time and then CTDing the next.

All things considered, if you're going to start disabling mods to try and find the problem I'd certainly start with that one since it is known to cause a problem with saved games once something happens in the course of playing that activates whatever effect it creates.

Thanks frau, I'll certainly give that a try :salute:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Fish In The Water]

I know there were multiple reports of issues when using TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
and someone - I think it was Stiebler - did some testing and determined that there was a problem with corrupted saved games while using that mod. He pretty much narrowed it down to that mod in particular. There was a discussion about it in the Mods Workshop forum I think but I don't know if it was a separate thread or just came up in a general "saved games CTD please help" thread like we get from time to time.

However I don't recall it being a question of how long a system was shut down in between saving and reloading, or of saves working one time and then CTDing the next.

All things considered, if you're going to start disabling mods to try and find the problem I'd certainly start with that one since it is known to cause a problem with saved games once something happens in the course of playing that activates whatever effect it creates.

Great advice... :up:

[Fubar2Niner]

Hi fellow Kaleuns,

This is just an early update to let those who helped know how things are going.

Sailed from Wilhelmshaven Aug 1 1939 in my VIIB, with orders to patrol grid BF17.

Ran sea trials of varying depths and speeds, and several TC settings

Returned home Aug 21.

So far I have saved 6 times and all have reloaded without errors. This includes 2 instances with my rig turned off for 24 hours. At the moment I haven't engaged the enemy, so far, so good ! All this with my mod list unaltered. More tests and if all is well I shall post what I am begining to suspect was the problem.

More updates after war commences.

Many, many thanks to Jim and frau for trying to ease my long suffering problem.

Kudos Kaleuns :salute:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Snestorm]

Just started a new thread.
I wonder if I'm following in your footsteps, with the same problem.
My saves load. My next patrol loading is interupted by the Windows Error Box.

[max-peck]

I know there were multiple reports of issues when using TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v4_0_SH3
and someone - I think it was Stiebler - did some testing and determined that there was a problem with corrupted saved games while using that mod.

Thank you, that's really useful information. :yep:

Last week I did the most successful convoy attack I have ever done in this game.
I found a slow convoy at night in my IXB and over the course of about five hours managed to sink six or seven ships. Most of them were big suckers too. It was absolutely awesome, lots of fun. :DL
Then yesterday - bang, my save won't load. I am so PO'd about this. :stare:

So I've completely uninstalled SH3 and Commander, and done a registry clean. Going to reinstall this morning.

I'll definitely leave out the Water disturbance mod this time, thanks for the info :up:

[Fish In The Water]

I'll definitely leave out the Water disturbance mod this time, thanks for the info :up:

I ran a number of test under 'ideal' save conditions and I couldn't load at all with the DC mod enabled. Now, (with it removed from the mix), I can save underwater right next to a convoy and reload without any issues at all.

[Fubar2Niner]

Hi shipmates,

War has commenced !

Left wilhemshaven with orders to patrol BF18 engaged a small merchant, two fish fired. Two explosions !! I waited for my target to sink and set TC to 1024. Sailed on for 12 hours at ahead one third. I then dropped TC to x1 asked my WO for contacts, none. I then set my depth to 25 metres.

"SO report contcts", none. I surfaced and saved.............

On reload CRASH!!!!

I have done as frau has suggested, and disabled TDW DC mod. Now time will tell.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

Good Luck http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Fish In The Water]

Good Luck http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

I second that...

Keepin' my fingers crossed! :03:

[Snestorm]

Good Luck http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Add me for thirds.

[Fubar2Niner]

Hello again Kaleuns.

Ok so I disabled TDW's DC mod and started a new career. So far I have completed two patrols. 1st was my shakedown, again I ran at various xTC and made many saves. All reloaded perfectly even after several rb's.

Please oh please I thought as I started my second patrol. Sailing through the Channel my WO sights my first potential victim, a medium cargo of 5+k tons, two eels prepared..... FEUR! .......... Kaboom !!! After watching my first victory sink slowly I made away at ahead standard and saved & exit. Hold my breath......

Reload save.....

Yay success :yeah:

Patrol 2 ended with 5 ships sunk for 48K tons, I have made many saves since Sunday all a total success !!

I have to conclude, it seems TDW's DC mod must have been the culprit all along, leading to many weeks of frustration.

Many, many thanks to Jim and frau for helping me track this problem down, you guys :rock::rock:

Watch out Tommies, Fubar is on the rampage again :arrgh!:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Jimbuna]

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Fish In The Water]

Patrol 2 ended with 5 ships sunk for 48K tons, I have made many saves since Sunday all a total success !!

Very happy to hear it! :yeah:

I have to conclude, it seems TDW's DC mod must have been the culprit all along, leading to many weeks of frustration.

Sorry to say I had the same experience. The good news being, all has been well ever since. :sunny:

[max-peck]

I ran a number of test under 'ideal' save conditions and I couldn't load at all with the DC mod enabled. Now, (with it removed from the mix), I can save underwater right next to a convoy and reload without any issues at all.

This is looking good for me too :DL

My modlist is the same as before except for the removal of the DC Disturbance mod.

I've now been running my patrol for three days (real time), and loaded up my save games many times, including after sinking two single merchants I came across on different days.

Thanks for the info on here, really helped me out. :yep:

[Fish In The Water]

Thanks for the info on here, really helped me out. :yep:

You're very welcome, glad it's working for you! :up:

[frau kaleun]

Reload save.....

Yay success :yeah:

Patrol 2 ended with 5 ships sunk for 48K tons, I have made many saves since Sunday all a total success !!

I have to conclude, it seems TDW's DC mod must have been the culprit all along, leading to many weeks of frustration.

Many, many thanks to Jim and frau for helping me track this problem down, you guys :rock::rock:

Watch out Tommies, Fubar is on the rampage again :arrgh!:

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

This is looking good for me too :DL

My modlist is the same as before except for the removal of the DC Disturbance mod.

I've now been running my patrol for three days (real time), and loaded up my save games many times, including after sinking two single merchants I came across on different days.

Thanks for the info on here, really helped me out. :yep:


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