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Anthony W.
06-14-11, 08:20 PM
I need to lose 5lb in a week - and I need to do that every week for 6-8 weeks

I know there are some in shape people on here... So... HELP!

Lol but seriously, I know I CAN do it, but how?

Platapus
06-14-11, 08:26 PM
5 pounds a week for 8 weeks is a lot of weight in little time. 40 pounds in two months? :nope:

Is this to make a weigh-in, meaning that you are only looking for temp weight loss? If you are looking for a permanent weight loss, I think 5 pounds a month is more reasonable. :yep:

the_tyrant
06-14-11, 08:33 PM
how much do you weigh right now?
again, 5 pounds a month is reasonable

Onkel Neal
06-14-11, 08:38 PM
:Kaleun_Los:Damns, I thought a spammer got through our defenses

FIREWALL
06-14-11, 08:52 PM
First of all, You Can't. And if you did you'll be weak as a kitten an be open to all types of illness's.

5lbs. a week for 8 wks. "DANGER Will Robinson"

CptSimFreak
06-14-11, 08:56 PM
Insanity + proper diet. But you will not be able to reach your goal because of your demise.

razark
06-14-11, 09:00 PM
Step 1. Get a chainsaw.
Step 2. Decide which limb is your least favorite.
Step 3. Post the video to youtube.



Step 4. Realize that any method you use is going to be about as dangerous as the chainsaw. Slower, maybe. But still bad.

Feuer Frei!
06-14-11, 09:05 PM
So we still haven't heard from the OP as to why the weight loss needs to happen.
And your current weight and height. Check your BMI (Body Mass Indicator).
And check it as if you've already lost your 5lb.
W/O anymore info, you won't get any answers.
Constructive ones anyway.

Torvald Von Mansee
06-14-11, 09:25 PM
You lose that much that quickly you'll lose muscle, which is much harder to replace.

mookiemookie
06-14-11, 09:25 PM
Go vegetarian for a month. You will lose at least 20 lbs guaranteed.

FIREWALL
06-14-11, 10:19 PM
Build your new computer. You'll save money on food to lose weight. :haha:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184580

Sailor Steve
06-14-11, 10:26 PM
First of all, You Can't.
Actually you can, but you don't want to. Ten years ago I lost 60 pounds in two months. Dropped from 195 to 135, the same as I weighed in high school. How did I do it? Suddenly developed diabetes.

And if you did you'll be weak as a kitten an be open to all types of illness's.
:yep: My friends thought I was dying, and they may well have been right. I've never fully recovered, try as I may. And the sad part is I've put most of it back on, and still have problems. I'm trying diet and exersize and slowly, very slowly, getting better.

5lbs. a week for 8 wks. "DANGER Will Robinson"
He's right. The only way to lose that kind of weight is to stop eating altogether. You'll exersize for awhile, and then lose interest, and become weaker and weaker. Far from getting into shape, you'll find yourself in worse shape than before. Don't do it. Eat properly, exersize properly and as said you'll lose five pounds per month or thereabouts. And you'll get into better shape.

CCIP
06-14-11, 10:33 PM
I was actually losing a steady 2-3 lb per week at one point by cutting carbs with a vengeance and living on very modest servings of vegetables. So the vegetarian advice isn't far off.

That said, I've gained it all back a couple of years later after I realized I can't be without potatoes or pasta.

That also said, I'm not really overweight (6'4" and 185lb), but I could stand to either gain some muscle or lose some flab. I eat very little and it's all pretty darn healthy, but I exercise even less. Gonna try and fix that this summer.

But yeah, I agree, you really don't want to aim for something that extreme. Especially because even if you do lose it, it's gonna be bad for your health and/or you'll gain it back before you know it. Slow, steady, and ongoing-lifestyle-based is the only way you're gonna make any progress.

NeonSamurai
06-14-11, 10:51 PM
Go vegetarian for a month. You will lose at least 20 lbs guaranteed.

That is nonsense, you can be vegetarian and obese, its not very hard.

Stealhead
06-14-11, 11:52 PM
Why do you need to lose 40 pounds in such a short span?Are you over weight? You should find out what your Body Mass Index is and what it should be if you are pretty close to the zone there is no reason to try and drop this much weight so fast.

http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bminojs.htm


Is there a particular reason or are you just wishing to drop weight?

If you are just trying to drop 40 pounds in general then you dont need to do it that fast in this case start doing some exercise do some calisthenics and change your diet some guys will try and lift weights but that adds more weight(the muscle) if you don't do something else you wont lose the fat and you will only gain more weight you'll have muscle but you will also still have the fat.

I am a fairly fit person but I really dont lift much weight I do tons of push-ups,pull ups, chin ups and dips though I also do lots of running and calisthenics that really burns up fat you can jump rope or hit a speed bag or punching bag, jumping jacks thats the stuff that burns fat.

Also stay away from greasy foods(no damn fast food ****e) and junk sugary foods instead of some sugar crap eat an apple or some other fruit and drink juice or water instead of soda you will also feel better as well. If you do not change your physical habits as well as your diet your not going to get good results.Many people think of diet as something they do to lose weight when you should really think about a diet as what you normally eat a Great White Shark prefers to eat seals that is its diet this is what I mean you have to always have a good diet only eat greasy fast food stuff rarely not a few times a week.

You should ask a Doctor more about a good diet every person is a bit different to some extent what is best for them.Of course avoiding fast food and greasy high fat foods and overly sugary foods is a good idea for anyone.I used to hate PE when I was a kid but in the military I loved it and have been very active every since.

http://www.menshealth.com/ is pretty good place to get ideas from.

I agree with NeonSamuari I have a friend who is 100% vegetarian and was over weight for a few years after he "converted" from meat the reason was because he was not active.Personally I dont believe in the whole veggie thing there a things your body needs from meats as well you just have to eat meat in much lesser amounts and better types of meat.

@CCIP you are in the normal zone for your BMI so you need to just exercise more if you have some flab better start busting out the sit ups and crunches.Being in active kills you sooner or later my Grandmother is 87 years old a she walks 2 miles just about every day and does that old lady pool exercise stuff she is in very good shape.My step dad his sister more or less sat around the house when she retired and now at 77 she can hardly get around.Humans have not evolved to the generally lazy inactive life style that the modern world lets a 1st world person live our bodies need activity to stay healthy only 10,000 years ago(really until the late 19th century) we where much more active because our survival depended on it and our bodies still function the same way but most of us dont so people are unhealthy as a result.

Castout
06-15-11, 12:14 AM
Any of the following combination:

Skip lunch or skip lunch and breakfast.

Watch your dinner so not to compensate for the skipped lunch.

Limit your intake. Or only eat a little each time without skipping any. Or only eat when you feel hungry. No it doesn't mean eat when you're craving for food.

Stop snacking.

Go to work with bicycle.

Jog periodically at least 3 times a week. If your weight prevents that then walk fast for at least 40 minutes each day.

Try doing sit ups periodically. To make it harder with bent knees. Do it at least 30 each day(If you can't start with a few). Pull strings or exercise with weights periodically.

If it's within walking distance then walk than drive.

Emotional scars are usually the reason why people over eat or have an obsession on anything to an unhealthy or destructive degree. In the long run this have to be dealt with. try to be positive and cheerful in life. If you feel great you eat only what you need. You may need to change your environment so that you'll have a more positive environment to back you up(like finding new community). Anything negative or hurting must go: friends, job, relations, etc

If you have repressed anger then get a punchbag. Let it all out to it each day. It's exercise good for the body and good for the mind. When you're slim get a rifle and practice long range firing at the gun range. Good for the soul . . . . . the focus exercising will help you to calm down. But never ever handle a gun or rifle when you are angry. When you're angry go back to the punch bag.

Or take martial art commitment in the long run.

Feuer Frei!
06-15-11, 12:15 AM
The OP has vanished.

Hottentot
06-15-11, 12:17 AM
Step 1. Get a chainsaw.
Step 2. Decide which limb is your least favorite.
Step 3. Post the video to youtube.

My first thoughts when I read the topic title. Well, maybe without the reasonable step 4, but still...

Stealhead
06-15-11, 12:18 AM
Skipping a meal is not always the best idea for some people because they will only wind up wanting to eat more the next time they eat.

Hey it is still a good topic of discussion even without the OP.

Anthony W.
06-15-11, 12:32 AM
OP Reports - I need to get rid of the 20-40lb beer belly I have.

I weigh 200 - and I'm only 5'8

I need to loose the weight. I used to be able to perma lose 5lb a week when I was in Florida for a month swimming all day every day

I'm sick of running out of energy so easily - I'm sick of women winking at my face and grimacing at my gut. I'm sick of being compared to celebs with abs.

I do 50 sit ups every night before bed - I started that last night. I ran till I was out of breath today, which was maybe 1/8th of a mile, very slowly. The only muscles in my legs worth looking at are my calves. My calves are incredible.

Stealhead
06-15-11, 01:00 AM
You are just going to have to work on then you wont get results over night but use that frustration as determination to improve yourself.Keep running and practice your breathing find a pace to it that helps alot.Start slow and build up from there as it gets easier push to go farther also don't give up people that are in good shape where not born that way.You will not find a Navy SEAL or Green Beret that did not want to be one 100%.If you want to feel and look better you have to have the same attitude.

You may want to seek the advice of a doctor about the over weight bit also feeling out of energy means you are not getting enough energy for some reason.Eat several cups of steamed
rice or just plain pasta(no sauce) with olive oil before you work out I mean not just before because you will end up barfing if you eat just before you go running I mean maybe 1 hour before hand.

antikristuseke
06-15-11, 02:35 AM
5 pounds a week for 8 weeks is a lot of weight in little time. 40 pounds in two months? :nope:

Is this to make a weigh-in, meaning that you are only looking for temp weight loss? If you are looking for a permanent weight loss, I think 5 pounds a month is more reasonable. :yep:

A guy in my platoon in the service lost more during two months of basic. But then again, the ammount of physical exertion there was a wee bit higher than most people would put themselves through vouletarily.

Tribesman
06-15-11, 02:52 AM
First impressions, too much too soon.
vegetarian option, rapid weight loss by simply eating German beansprouts
I'm sick of women winking at my face and grimacing at my gut. I'm sick of being compared to celebs with abs.


Have more self confidence and ignore comparisons to artificial creations.

The only muscles in my legs worth looking at are my calves. My calves are incredible.
A person with a serious eating disorder will complain about how their body looks but say their belly is incredible.

I ran till I was out of breath today, which was maybe 1/8th of a mile
OK thats a problem, do you smoke?
on another line would you like to have weight loss through smoking?

The main key to this topic is contained in the post......
I used to be able to perma lose 5lb a week when I was in Florida for a month swimming all day every day
...apart from the "perma":03:.
Swimming is good, relatively quick and effective for most of the body. Get a proper schedule drawn up and aim for basic 1.5 hour sessions working on an 8 days in a week basis. For a bonus on your legs cycle to the sea/lake/pool for the sessions

Castout
06-15-11, 05:24 AM
Be patient and put in the commitment. No easy way losing weight. It is for the long run.

Should not overdo it early so you won't get tired of it or over exposed to it and give up. Build up your determination by accumulating success after success, small success after small success.

Never fall for a girl or woman who fell for you on the first impression as she might easily flirt with another just the same :O:

it's not for the women out there it's for you and your well being.

Feuer Frei!
06-15-11, 05:26 AM
Never fall for a girl or woman who fell for you on the first impression as she might easily flirt with another just the same
it's not for the women out there it's for you and your well being.
Well put, Sir! :yeah:

Castout
06-15-11, 05:30 AM
Well put, Sir! :yeah:

But if you're looking for sex not love well why not . That is if you're that kind of guy who can easily take advantage of women (shame on you):haha:

Feuer Frei!
06-15-11, 05:31 AM
But if you're looking for sex not love well why not :haha:
:haha: Well, your credibility just went down a notch! :O:

mookiemookie
06-15-11, 07:02 AM
That is nonsense, you can be vegetarian and obese, its not very hard.

You could be, but if you use your head you probably won't. Don't replace meat with excessive dairy, go easy on oil, fruit and nuts and you will almost certainly lose weight.

Herr-Berbunch
06-15-11, 07:30 AM
That is nonsense, you can be vegetarian and obese, its not very hard.

I know two vegetarians that are (were) obese, and both developed gaulstones. One started to take up running about 18 months ago and the weight dropped off. Now she runs everywhere, and takes part in half-marathons and fun runs (a misnomer, surely?) within 100 mile radius about every other weekend, has joined an athletics club and trains daily. If you'd have seen her 18 months ago, all she ever did was sit at a PC playing music and games - she can't drive but would never walk anywhere, or even get the bus. If her husband didn't drive her she wouldn't go! Now she's BOBFOC* :doh:

:D

The other one hasn't taken up running, and still complains of general ill health. :damn:

*For those that don't know - Body Off Baywatch, Face Off Crimewatch!

Edit: Oops, just realised I'd hit reply on page one, and not read page two!

If swimming did it for you then it can again, just need the municiple pool. Running for 1/8th of a mile and stopping isn't great, try this - it worked for my wife.



Week one: Walk for six minutes, then jog at an easy pace for one minute. Repeat three times. Aim for three sessions with that same sequence for week one.
Week two: Walk for five minutes, then jog for two minutes. Repeat three times. Aim to do three sessions in week two.
Week three: Walk for three minutes, then jog for four minutes. Repeat four times. Aim for four sessions in week three.
Week four: Walk for two minutes, then jog for five minutes. Repeat four times. Shoot for three of those sessions in week four.
Week five: Walk for two minutes, then jog for eight minutes. Repeat three times. Do three of those sessions in week five.
Week six: Walk for two minutes, then jog for nine minutes. Repeat three times. Try to do three sessions for week six.
Week seven: Walk for one minute, then jog for 11 minutes. Repeat three times. Do three sessions this week.
Week eight: Congratulations on making it to week eight! For your first run this week, try walking for five minutes to begin and end the workout, and run for 20 minutes in between. By the end of the week, try to run for 30 minutes without stopping.

Above anything else, you must strech your muscles before and after - just google pre-run streches.

The more exercise you do, the better you will feel. Even just a walk before your breakfast could make all the difference to the rest of your day!

Betonov
06-15-11, 08:13 AM
Always burn more than you eat. It's burning that gets the job done, not starving.

I've lost 3 kilos in the last month. Not much but I havent gone up in that time. The first time I'm under 95kg in the last 10 years. Next stop 90kg. It helped I suppresed my asthma. Now I can run for 5km without an attack.

Here's my advice:
1) learn to cook, if you live in a rural area like me, the grandmothers food is fatty, drowned in lard and the meat is not prepared to remove the white fat on it. If you know how to cook you can prepare yourself low fat dishes that are still tasty. Tuna and tomato sauce, spring salads, steaks that do not drip from fat... Just don't go into the extremes, eat my friend, serve yourself a giant stake and run it out the next day

2) as mentioned, burn more than you eat. Taking sports is the best thing.

3) run everytime you feel angry/depressed/sad/disapointed. You'll sweat the bad feelings and the fat out of you in the same time.

4) the hardest one, find motivation. I motivate myself by my sheer hatred of women and want to be on the giving side of ''just wanna be friends'' speeches from now on.

5) don't measure your progress by weight alone. Muscles also ad to the bodyweight

frau kaleun
06-15-11, 08:21 AM
I know two vegetarians that are (were) obese, and both developed gaulstones.

I hear those are a PITA to get rid of, but at least they encourage the tourist trade...

http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/25/2566/D6OLD00Z.jpg

NeonSamurai
06-15-11, 08:22 AM
You could be, but if you use your head you probably won't. Don't replace meat with excessive dairy, go easy on oil, fruit and nuts and you will almost certainly lose weight.

Carbs are the big one you gotta watch for. Many people increase the number of carbs to feel full. Also fruit isn't a bad thing, in reasonable amounts.


Ultimately there is only one effective way of loosing weight and keeping it off. Reduce the number of calories you are consuming, and/or increase the amount of exercise you do. These changes need to be permanent otherwise you will rebound and likely gain more weight.

Also crash/starvation diets are a VERY bad idea (that includes skipping meals), as not only do you put your health at risk, but you train your body to expect lean times, causing it to adapt and be even more prone to convert food to fat (and hold onto the fat longer).

Nothing else works.


Some tricks to cut back on food intake.


Take 20% less food when serving yourself
Prepare somewhat less food than you normally eat
Keep treats out of sight & out of easy reach
Be disciplined when at the store, and don't buy the junk. If you don't have it, you can't eat it (and you won't be tempted by it)
Stay the hell away from fast food of any kind, none of it is healthy, not even the salads (especially not the salads)
Eat slowly and take pauses, it can take up to 30 minutes before you will feel full. Rapid eating will cause you to over eat before you feel full
Cook your own meals and prepare portions for yourself
Brush your teeth when you want to stop eating, toothpaste usually does not go well with food.

Herr-Berbunch
06-15-11, 08:47 AM
I motivate myself by my sheer hatred of women and want to be on the giving side of ''just wanna be friends'' speeches from now on.

:o

So if a Slovenian Ripper starts killing women, we'll point the authorities in your direction. :yep:

I was trying to think of something more profound to write here but have failed :nope:

Maybe a village in Slovenia is not the best place to meet the lovely ladies?

Betonov
06-15-11, 08:55 AM
I'm with the red cross, we don't believe in violence :stare: I'll leave a trail of broken hearts after me :O: as soon as I get rid of this gut.

I don't know, the women in these parts tend to be very shallow. If a girl tells you you have a great sense of humor, it's actualy a death sentence. We're to kind, a woman can have a carved-body idiot fo showing off and sweet loving and the ''friend'' who'll do anything for her, for runnning erands and getting gifts and doing what in other countries the man does to get laid. Looks matter my boy, looks matter. Anything else is only a bonus

Krauter
06-15-11, 09:09 AM
Well... After reading through this post, I was kind of interested (before OP replied 2nd time :haha: )

I don't know if anyone here knows this or not, but as an athlete competing in Freestyle Wrestling, I have to know how to control my body weight as well as what I eat.

Now, when you said that you were looking to lose 5 lbs for 8 weeks, I thought well, that's pretty easy. I can sweat that out in a two hour practice. However the key word there is sweat. As a wrestler, I can control a lot of my body weight by monitoring and influencing my intake of water. Obviously that's not an option for you, because it is only a short term (24hr) solution to losing weight.

A lot of what's been said in this thread is valid (and I in no way claim to be an expert on losing weight :haha: ) but there are some points that I disagree with...

I won't name them, but here's some pointers that I follow and that I feel could probably help you;

- Weigh yourself morning and night, not after a workout or after you eat because your bodyweight can fluctuate 4-5lbs after a meal or after a workout.

- If you start a weight regimen, your weight will go up for the first few weeks but then gradually decrease.

- Eating, and controlling it, is a mental challenge. Trick yourself into thinking you are full or find foods that have maximum energy potential with the smallest carb/fat number. Eating a nice juicy steak or having a huge pasta dinner is nice (and is needed every once in a while), but realize you have to DO something with all that you've just taken into your body.

- Trick your body into believing there is a lot of food by making a big portion of for example salad. Cut the lettuce really big so that it appears that there is ALOT of it there. As your eating, eat slow as well. This tricks your body into thinking that there is a lot of food and that it is hungry.

-Create a schedule of a swim/spin class in the morning and a jog at night. Start slow and gradually increase the difficulty/length/intensity of what you are doing

- Be careful of your salt intake (f.ex.: salads are awesome, but having that italian dressing means intaking a lot of salt...)

- Know that if you're working your body hard, you're eventually going to need sugar. Don't be afraid to treat yourself every once in a while (every 3-4 weeks..)

All in all you have to be confident and positive. Know that the changes won't happen over night and that it takes dedication. You will get tired. You will get sore. You will get discouraged. But just keep at it and push through and you can reach your goal.

Best of luck!

Krauter

Castout
06-15-11, 09:44 AM
A lot of what's been said in this thread is valid (and I in no way claim to be an expert on losing weight :haha: ) but there are some points that I disagree with...

I won't name them, but here's some pointers that I follow and that I feel could probably help you;



I can vouch for weighing in the morning :DL.

I'm no expert either. I lost about 8 Kg(16 pounds over some weeks by following strict skipping of meal and controlling how much I eat and doing regular exercise).I just needed to lose 4 Kg then but the determination didn't wear off :D

But I think you may fool the mind into thinking that you're eating a lot but you can't never fool the stomach.

When dieting I know I'm doing okay when I feel a tiny bit of starving(not craving food). I'm just saying feeling a bit hungry(starving, just a bit) is always a good sign when trying to lose some weight. Just don't starve for real or do anything extreme.

Skybird
06-15-11, 10:20 AM
2.5 kg in 7 days and staying healthy? Forget it. 5lb in 5 weeks - with discipline and a strong will that can be done. 1 pound per week is something that I learned from experience to be realistic and achievable - without needing to eat like a Spartan.

As a general rule, avoid carbonhydrates, especially potatoes, pasta, sweets, rice, cerealies, and bread (eat bread as rarely and in as small quantities as your discipine allows to go!).

No sweets.

More specifically, avoid high-glycemic carbonhydrates, focus on consuming only low-glycemic carbon-hydrates.

No sweets.

Eat more protein.

No sweets.

Eat as much as you want/need in order to not be hungry. If you feel hunger, the body sooner or later reduces it's energy-balance, and your diat will become in vein.

No sweets.

No soft drinks, no chips, products with baked flour of any kind (pie, crackers).

Hunger can be easily avpoided when filling your stomahc with Tofu, eggs (best form of animal protein you can eat), and especially meager curd/quark. It is good to eat fish (fat is better than dry) and white meat (chicken), red meat should be reduced, better avoided.

Fats and oils should not be a problem if you do not exaggreate their coinsummation. But "gesättigte Fettsäuren" are forbidden. Take vegetable oil that was cold-pressed, or butter. Avoid margarine.

Avoid like the plague all meals-ready-to-eat, frozen instant dinners and dried meals that you need to cook with hot water. Avoid almost all canned food with sauces. Avoid corn in cans, and - surprise surprise, but true! - crop in general: no mueslis, that is. No sweet Kellog' cornflakes kind of stuff either. Or more easily: don't even enter a regular supermarket.

Understand the basic principle of avoiding a high glycemic load. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_load)

You must not need salad. Everybody knowing the stuff a bit knows that eating salad, cucumber and green gras is completely pointless - there is no vitmaines, minerals, or anything else in them. You could as well eat blanc paper. Salad is a waste of money, and time for preparation. If you like the tatse of green salad, okay, it will not harm you. But there is zero physical benefit from eating green salad or cucumber.

I use to lose around one pound per week when doing so^, in the first 6-8 weeks. After that, weight loss slows down, but can be managed to cintunue nevertheless. I am currently down from almost 90 kg down to 84 in around 13 weeks, I plan to drop below 80 kg (at a height of 178 cm and an age of 44).

Loosing weight by sports: you need to know one thing: it is illusory to lose wieght be sports if you do not do sports several hours a day, becasue sport so intense that you swweat for the first 30-45 minutes of activity will not do anything to your weight. Now go figure. It only works when yoiu reduce your inout of carbinbhydrates at the same time: sufficient that the body needs to tackle the fat energy-reserves, but not as much that the body calls "food emergency!" and reduces its general energy balance. The training most likely wll not directly affect your weight, but indirectly, by slowly chnaing some parameters in your organism, and affecting cardiovascular system. If you think: "I wll go jogging 40 minutes every morning now, and in four weeks I have lost 2 ilogramns due to that", you better stay in bed and watch another episode or your favourite TV series.

What it comes down to: it is a combnation of several factor that decide your weight: general living style (including both stress and sports), quality of your food, quantity of carbonhydrates consumed. Alcohol and coffee can be tolerated in reasonably quantities, but better avid hard drinks, and alcohol. Coffee does not add to your carbinhydrates balance, but coffein directly stmulates the production of insuline - which helps to turn carbonhydrates intoi fat reserves. Try other coffee or tea without coffein.


Stop smoking.

Be aware that industrial convenience food has many bad things in its sauces, that are hidden in the small print: sugar, too much salt, bad fats. Avoid convenience food alltogether.

mookiemookie
06-15-11, 10:37 AM
Ultimately there is only one effective way of loosing weight and keeping it off. Reduce the number of calories you are consuming, and/or increase the amount of exercise you do. These changes need to be permanent otherwise you will rebound and likely gain more weight.


The "eat less, move more" diet is a sure winner. :yeah:

antikristuseke
06-15-11, 10:49 AM
What the food is exactly comprised of is more important that just its energy content tbh.

AVGWarhawk
06-15-11, 11:03 AM
Keep a strict diet of bugs found in your backyard. :up:

stoppro
06-15-11, 11:14 AM
this may sound strange but here's how I got back to my regular weight. due to a death in the family I end up with a 3yr old shi tzu .I could not stand it when she stared at me while eating.So I eat when she eats morning and at night. no more snacks at all hours.the weight just fell off. I guess all that nibbling adds up.

frau kaleun
06-15-11, 11:30 AM
Keep a strict diet of bugs found in your backyard. :up:

Unless he's in Australia. You might actually gain weight on that diet down there. :O:



OTOH you'd get a lot of extra exercise running away from some of the nastier ones.

Gerald
06-15-11, 11:45 AM
Luckily I did not have weight problems, burning pretty good, and it is important to be in shape, :yep:

kranz
06-15-11, 01:03 PM
are you guys serious?? if you are an American, fatness is inscribed in your DNA...
Ok, one serious advice- you won't lose your weight making threads like this. Forget about your Mustang, PC, and McDonald's and start exercising something more than your fingers. Go run somewhere, to the nearest state or sumtin'

NeonSamurai
06-15-11, 01:26 PM
I disagree with increasing protein intake. The key reason being that the body will break it down into energy, and breaking down protein for energy leaves behind a lot of toxic compounds, which puts stress on the body. Western society tends to eat far to much of the stuff as it is (often by a factor of 10 times higher than it it should be).

Oh another one to avoid is alcohol, especially beer. Alcohol metabolizes into a form of sugar that the body either needs to use right away, or convert to fat. Beer is full of carbs + alcohol

Plus it may have been mentioned by others, but rapid weight loss is usually due to water loss, not fat loss. When changing your diet you can expect the rate of weight loss to slow down after the first week.

kiwi_2005
06-15-11, 01:57 PM
Eat just one large meal a day, have the meal at lunch time. No breakfast no dinner. Drink plenty of water in between. Afternoons try go for a walk round the block or if you can't do that do some form of light exercise even just doing the chores round the home can work up enough sweat. If you get hungry later on during the evening eat a piece of fruit or carrot/apple. Its simple Ive never had a weight problem I just have a caffeine problem. :damn: :DL

Anthony W.
06-15-11, 01:59 PM
Okay, I've replaced all my snacks with chewing on a raw cinnamon stick. Tastes pretty good (once you get past the whole tree bark thing) and makes the thought of eating a daunting proposition.

I did 100 situps last night (my abs are on fire) - and I think when I go run tonight I'll A. stretch and B. not wear jeans and C. put the dog in.

I'm going to try to jog a half mile tonight.

BTW I also need to lose all this because I am determined to join the Air Force or Air National Guard within the next 2 years.

What I can determine is that under the thick layer of blubber on my gut are some pretty powerful abs. The fat is what keeps them from performing.

When I said my calves are incredible - they really are. Fat doesn't easily go to my lower legs for some reason. The skiing I do in the winter definitely keeps them at peak year round.

I'm going to try to bike all the way to my uncle's house to swim at some point. That will have me exhausted by the time I get there. Then I'll swim till dark and either spend the night there or bike back. I might be able to do that 3x a week

kiwi_2005
06-15-11, 02:05 PM
Okay, I've replaced all my snacks with chewing on a raw cinnamon stick. Tastes pretty good (once you get past the whole tree bark thing) and makes the thought of eating a daunting proposition.

I did 100 situps last night (my abs are on fire) - and I think when I go run tonight I'll A. stretch and B. not wear jeans and C. put the dog in.

I'm going to try to jog a half mile tonight.

BTW I also need to lose all this because I am determined to join the Air Force or Air National Guard within the next 2 years.

What I can determine is that under the thick layer of blubber on my gut are some pretty powerful abs. The fat is what keeps them from performing.

When I said my calves are incredible - they really are. Fat doesn't easily go to my lower legs for some reason. The skiing I do in the winter definitely keeps them at peak year round.

I'm going to try to bike all the way to my uncle's house to swim at some point. That will have me exhausted by the time I get there. Then I'll swim till dark and either spend the night there or bike back. I might be able to do that 3x a week

Doing well keep it up! :up:

Betonov
06-15-11, 02:14 PM
GO! GO! GO! GO! GO!

Ducimus
06-15-11, 02:21 PM
If i were in the same weight loss needs of the OP, my suggestion would be to hike 16 miles a day in the local mountains, every day, eating only trail food/snacks. (apples, nuts, granola bars, etc).

The trick is to stick with it every day, and not pig out when you get off the mountain. Hiking a mountain is a great calorie burner, and you get to enjoy nature wihle your at it.

Of course, the real kicker is having the time off work to take up that schedule, and it WILL kick your ass HARD for the first 4 days. Maybe even the first week or more.

August
06-15-11, 02:33 PM
Joining the Army is what it took for me.

I went in at 207lbs and left basic training 8 weeks later at 170. A lean, mean fighting machine! :DL

Skybird
06-15-11, 03:21 PM
August has a point. Planning diets and excercises are good intentions that often do not last for long, like new year's eve intentions. Problem is discipline and endurance. If you have outside pressure to continue, and are left with no choice, that certainly helps. :)

Good alternative: swimming. If you like it (I hate it). Only few other sports use the whole range of your muscles so completely, like swimming, and effect your cardiovascular system so directly.

Ducimus
06-15-11, 04:49 PM
August has a point. Planning diets and excercises are good intentions that often do not last for long, like new year's eve intentions. Problem is discipline and endurance.
.

Or motivation. Thats one reason i prefer hiking. I leave the trailhead with an objective. Make it to (whatever) peak. When you get close to your objective, thats when you really got to dig in and push yourself forward. Once you get to the top, its always worth it for the view alone. The trek down is almost always easier, and you end up with a feeling like you accomplished something.

It's either that or go to the gym. Im not a gym rat. I find it boring, with very little reward.

Diets alone, NEVER work.

jumpy
06-15-11, 06:39 PM
Anthony W. you need a plan! And you need to make it your mission to adhere to it.

Calorie deficit is your means. Plus exercise.

Doing loads of situps will not make your gut smaller - spot fat reduction does not work. What you need is cardiovascular exercise (and some weight lifting maybe) to reduce overall body fat, and a carefully planned healthy diet.
Doing loads of situps as part of an exercise regime is good however :cool:

Simplest workouts are pressups/pullups/chinups/crunches/cardio - none of which require you to spend money on expensive kit.

There's lots of get fit & loose fat fast gimmicks out there, so don't be fooled into parting with your cash for something that's almost certainly too good to be true.

I like http://scoobysworkshop.com/index.htm (http://scoobysworkshop.com/general_philosophy.htm)as far as honest advice goes, there's lots of practical information for getting fit, loosing fat or being a serious curl monkey. Have a read and see what might be in line with your goals, but make sure your goals are realistic and long term.

August
06-15-11, 07:33 PM
Or motivation.

You're both right. Endurance requires discipline and discipline requires motivation.

Motivation can be positive or negative but positive motivation is healthier and lasts longer.

Now if I would only follow my own advice! :D

Platapus
06-15-11, 07:53 PM
Joining the Army is what it took for me.

I went in at 207lbs and left basic training 8 weeks later at 170. A lean, mean fighting machine! :DL

Wow you had me beat. I also went in at 207 pounds and came out at 177. 30 pounds on the button.

But, to be honest, I looked sickly thin. When I show pictures people often comment on how bad I looked.

Nothing like eating one small meal very fast and running ever where to get the weight down.

Ahh the good ole days in the military, boy they sucked. :D

August
06-15-11, 08:00 PM
Wow you had me beat. I also went in at 207 pounds and came out at 177. 30 pounds on the button.

But, to be honest, I looked sickly thin. When I show pictures people often comment on how bad I looked.

Nothing like eating one small meal very fast and running ever where to get the weight down.

Ahh the good ole days in the military, boy they sucked. :D

Yeah but I still miss them sometimes. Mostly I miss being 18 I think. Being old sucks more. :DL

Castout
06-15-11, 08:59 PM
Keep a strict diet of bugs found in your backyard. :up:

Bugs are high in protein.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1810336,00.html

antikristuseke
06-15-11, 11:53 PM
Joining the Army is what it took for me.

I went in at 207lbs and left basic training 8 weeks later at 170. A lean, mean fighting machine! :DL

I gained weight in the army :( Though it was all muscle mass.

Castout
06-16-11, 12:17 AM
Okay, I've replaced all my snacks with chewing on a raw cinnamon stick. Tastes pretty good (once you get past the whole tree bark thing) and makes the thought of eating a daunting proposition.

I did 100 situps last night (my abs are on fire) - and I think when I go run tonight I'll A. stretch and B. not wear jeans and C. put the dog in.

I'm going to try to jog a half mile tonight.

BTW I also need to lose all this because I am determined to join the Air Force or Air National Guard within the next 2 years.

What I can determine is that under the thick layer of blubber on my gut are some pretty powerful abs. The fat is what keeps them from performing.

When I said my calves are incredible - they really are. Fat doesn't easily go to my lower legs for some reason. The skiing I do in the winter definitely keeps them at peak year round.

I'm going to try to bike all the way to my uncle's house to swim at some point. That will have me exhausted by the time I get there. Then I'll swim till dark and either spend the night there or bike back. I might be able to do that 3x a week

Remember don't over do it so you won't feel over working it out and give up.

Build up your determination with small success after small success.

PS: Can you say post a now picture of yourself and after the regime in some weeks(6-8) from now? :O:. Just teasing.

Anthony W.
06-16-11, 01:09 AM
Now...

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197766_1881007862377_1156729612_32335415_6182193_n .jpg

Now what the hell I was doing in that picture... I have no clue...

Castout
06-16-11, 01:37 AM
That's not too bad. Much better than I thought.

No wonder 100 sit ups without problem.
Well don't forget to post the picture again in 8 weeks :O:

Let's hear from Frau.. is it bad as of now?:DL

Are you chasing the likes like Cameron Diaz?:O:

I do however spot the tummy there. Shouldn't be too hard to make it disappear but don't expect just doing sit ups would make it gone.

The secret is in controlling your intake and using the energy from what you eat.

A little starving for couple weeks for a slim ab for Ms Cameron Diaz maybe worth it...but I suggest you do it for yourself. it's more right and more fun that way. The Air force seems to make more sense than Ms Diaz.

Betonov
06-16-11, 02:05 AM
Now what the hell I was doing in that picture... I have no clue...

Playing hairdresser to a bald man :DL

Castout
06-16-11, 03:24 AM
Playing hairdresser to a bald man :DL

Umm why is it all pink? :O:

Tribesman
06-16-11, 05:07 AM
Umm why is it all pink?
DADT was done away with wasn't it?;)

Pisces
06-16-11, 07:58 AM
My 2 cents is to not set too high standards. 5 pound in a week is tasking your body. I doubt it will keep up with it. Atleast, allow yourself to deviate from it. I went from 104 kg (230lbs?) in (november or) december, to 92 kg now (203lbs). I am 1,85m BTW. With doing nothing more special than leaving snacks and cookies asside, and not going for the extra plate. When I use my bicycle to do errands in town I never have a backwind to keep me going if you know what I mean. And that usually means upto 20 minutes of pedalling. That's as much sporting as I do.

I was determined to put myself on a lazy weightloss schedule. I have no fixed weight-loss amount per time period in mind. Just a set goal to get back into the safe BMI region. I take my weight as it comes, and allways get a smile when it has dropped a 0.1 kg in the morning. Sure, I had setbacks, where it stalled or even kept at the 95 kg level for a month. Sometimes rising a bit. So be it. It's a signal you need to be more conscious of your regime again.

I think such quick weightloss regimes are going to put alot of extra bad moods in your mind. Which is difficult enough to cope with anyway when changing your lifestyle. If your deadline is 2 years then you'll do fine. I'm sure I'll get there too. Just don't sabotage yourself with such high expectations. That's a sure way to fail. Been there, done that.

Onkel Neal
06-16-11, 11:45 AM
Now...

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197766_1881007862377_1156729612_32335415_6182193_n .jpg

Now what the hell I was doing in that picture... I have no clue...


Which one are you??


What I need is a portable food source that isn't aweful tasting, but low calorie that I can eat to keep the food cravings away. I hope no one says carrots or celery.

AVGWarhawk
06-16-11, 11:55 AM
90 calorie Kellogs Crisps. :03:

Ducimus
06-16-11, 01:45 PM
Wow you had me beat. I also went in at 207 pounds and came out at 177. 30 pounds on the button.


Heh, i think i enlisted weighing 135 pounds. I left basic weighing about 145 or 150. I came back from serving in red horse over seas about about 175 of Lean and Mean muscle. Nowdays i float at about 200, and it aint all muscle. At 5'10 i know im overweight, but nothing i couldnt work off if i wanted to. Considering i work in an office enviorment, i figure im not doing half bad. Best i managed to get my weight down to, was 185-190, and that was just hiking every weekend, with no change in my diet at all.

Anthony W.
06-16-11, 02:26 PM
Umm why is it all pink? :O:

He was the fill in. Other one was out on maternity leave.

Platapus
06-16-11, 04:33 PM
Yeah but I still miss them sometimes. Mostly I miss being 18 I think. Being old sucks more. :DL

If only we knew at 18 what we know now huh?

Platapus
06-16-11, 04:34 PM
Heh, i think i enlisted weighing 135 pounds. I left basic weighing about 145 or 150.

Don't know how people could gain weight in basic. I had guys in basic who did though.

When did they get the time to eat?

Ducimus
06-16-11, 05:58 PM
Don't know how people could gain weight in basic. I had guys in basic who did though.

When did they get the time to eat?

I was a skinny little bastard with a high metabolism. The weight gain was morning PT kicking my scrawny ass. :har:

August
06-16-11, 06:56 PM
Pound for pound muscle is a lot heavier than fat. :yep:

Anthony W.
06-16-11, 06:57 PM
I was a skinny little bastard with a high metabolism. The weight gain was morning PT kicking my scrawny ass. :har:

Sounds like hell - you're scaring me lololol

August
06-16-11, 07:30 PM
Sounds like hell - you're scaring me lololol

It is, but when you graduate from it your sense of accomplishment is enormous, as is your health and fitness, as is your self confidence.

The military doesn't make men but they do provide the environment in which men can make themselves.

Lord Justice
06-16-11, 07:36 PM
I was a skinny little bastard with a high metabolism. I still am, at 37. I put it down to my service with the parachute regiment , boxing days, and still but not so often pound the streets, though my knees cannot carry the weight I used to tab with. ;)

Stealhead
06-16-11, 11:06 PM
If you are thinking of joining any branch you might want to prep yourself a little bit at least because even in the USAF now a days the PT is a lot harder than it was back in my day.We did lots at Basic and tech school and then for some time most commands had a "do it on your own" mentality which meant go to one of the base gyms or run or something on your own time.At my last command my squadron commander decided to start organized PT which we did in the mornings I thought that was a good idea as some of us where in pretty good shape others not so much.I think today the USAF has full time PT like the Army and Marines though.

At basic it depends on your own metabolism and how you react to the stress some guys lose weight others gain others stay about the same it just depends.

If you want to join the USAF or National Guard do you mean Army National Guard or Air National Guard? Because Air National is USAF basic Army is Army basic. You should focus on getting to the weight requirement for your age and height.Look it up or better yet talk to a USAF or Army recruiter if you are thinking Air National Guard because USAF Guard and Reserve units are much smaller and harder to get into than Army units are.You also do delayed entry where you sign now(and your parents if under 18) and go after you complete HS.The recruiter will put you in a program to get at least down to the max allowable weight to be allowed into basic.

@4Para I have a buddy that was an Airborne Ranger for 20 years he has the same problem with the knees I guess it is from all those jump landings hard on the knees I suppose.

True what August said you have to want to make it yourself some DIs or TIs in the USAF will give you some encouragement but they wont make you if you dont really want to quit they wont stop you.Same goes for active duty in the end you must push yourself to keep going.I got washed back in basic because I was burning out all my energy on the PT test I could do the run and push ups fine but the sit-ups I just ran out of steam so my next head TI asked me why I failed on the sit ups I told him I was running out of energy not being used to doing all this without eating breakfast.He told me to take fruit bars out of the chow hall and eat those in the morning before reveille of course dont dare let himself or any other TIs catch me with food outside the chow hall which is violation.

Castout
06-16-11, 11:09 PM
He was the fill in. Other one was out on maternity leave.

:DL. Ah I had thought some women was missing from the scene.

antikristuseke
06-16-11, 11:15 PM
It is, but when you graduate from it your sense of accomplishment is enormous, as is your health and fitness, as is your self confidence.

The military doesn't make men but they do provide the environment in which men can make themselves.

Exactly this.

FIREWALL
06-16-11, 11:19 PM
I think you've all been had. :har: Includeing myself. :yep:..:DL

Ducimus
06-17-11, 12:10 PM
Sounds like hell - you're scaring me lololol

Meh, morning PT sucked, but working my ass off overseas was much tougher. This is me in 95. Best shape i was in my entire life.

http://www.ducimus.net/redhorse/mein95.jpg

EDIT: I just realized this is the first time i have ever put a photo of myself on the internet. lol

Betonov
06-17-11, 12:30 PM
I went on a diet for 14 days and the only thing I lost was two weeks

JU_88
06-17-11, 02:29 PM
A no carbs & suger diet works very well if you wanna lose weight fast - (Kind of like the Atkins) You can only eat nuts, veg, meat and dairy (but not milk because lactose is sugar).
Basically it fools your body in to fueling itself with the fat it has in storage - the weight flys off very fast, but its more of a trick than a diet.

BUT! this diet has many downsides.
-Its not a very healthy or natural way to lose weight.
-On the first few days you will feel like crap as your body deals with the sudden changes and is forced to re-tune itself.
-Drink as much water as you can or you WILL get the worst constipation ever!
-The effects only last as long as the diet, as soon as you come off the diet (and even if you continue to eat sensibly) most of the lost weight will start to return.
-You only get one shot!, it is very effective the first time you try it, however if you stop the diet and then try again, it will never work as well the second time around. It seems that our digestive systems can only be fooled once :)

Rockstar
06-17-11, 02:36 PM
Start with low carb beverages like gin or vodka.

Load up the table with your favorite foods, eat all you want but it's very important to make sure you chew your food 32 times, just don't swallow it.

As a back-up there's the taenia saginata cysticercus tape worm.

.

Jimbuna
06-17-11, 03:12 PM
I went on a diet for 14 days and the only thing I lost was two weeks

LOL :DL

Skybird
06-17-11, 07:20 PM
A no carbs & suger diet works very well if you wanna lose weight fast - (Kind of like the Atkins) You can only eat nuts, veg, meat and dairy (but not milk because lactose is sugar).
Basically it fools your body in to fueling itself with the fat it has in storage - the weight flys off very fast, but its more of a trick than a diet.

BUT! this diet has many downsides.
-Its not a very healthy or natural way to lose weight.
-On the first few days you will feel like crap as your body deals with the sudden changes and is forced to re-tune itself.
-Drink as much water as you can or you WILL get the worst constipation ever!
-The effects only last as long as the diet, as soon as you come off the diet (and even if you continue to eat sensibly) most of the lost weight will start to return.
-You only get one shot!, it is very effective the first time you try it, however if you stop the diet and then try again, it will never work as well the second time around. It seems that our digestive systems can only be fooled once :)
To avoid the downsides that you dsecribed, compare to whjat I outlined. Its better to look at the difference between low- and high glycemic carbonhydrates, than to avoid carbonhydrates alltogether. Its less extreme, more effective and allows you more flexibility and diversity in what you eat.

Stealhead
06-17-11, 07:56 PM
Meh, morning PT sucked, but working my ass off overseas was much tougher. This is me in 95. Best shape i was in my entire life.



EDIT: I just realized this is the first time i have ever put a photo of myself on the internet. lol

I agree with you there the work tempo in Germany was pretty intense and in my job we had to push or pull heavy equipment by hand in order to hook it up to trucks the first week or so doing this alone was pretty rough I'd sit there and think "how the hell do those guys push these damn 5 ton 10 ton 20 ton jacks onto a trailer all by them selves?" brute strength that is how.

I used to train fresh tech airman how to work the flight line if I was training a woman I'd be brutally honest with them and show them how to jockey the jacks onto the trailer then I'd let them do it them selves because no one is going to have the time to come and help you do it later when you are alone.
They all managed it pretty well and there where some men that did it worse than the smallest woman could that taught me a lot about the sexes
and stereo types and alot about what hard work really you either have it in you or you dont.

AngusJS
06-17-11, 08:06 PM
Lol but seriously, I know I CAN do it, but how?1) Invent a time machine
2) Go back 3 months
3) Start dieting and exercising without killing yourself in the process.

But seriously:

1) Calculate your basal metabolic rate (http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/)

2) Buy a calorie counter and a good pedometer

3) Buy an exercise bike

4) Keep your calorie intake 1,000 calories below your BMR. Use the calorie counter to follow your intake, the pedometer to measure how many calories you burn during the day, and the exercise bike to burn more off.

Don't immediately drop to this level, however; take a week or two to gradually get down to it, and then stay there.

I am doing this, and have lost 20 pounds in 2.5 months. I eat anything I want, I just count the calories, and when I go over my intake goal, I burn it off on the bike. I also exercise in the morning, as having a negative caloric balance gives me more options for lunch.

This doesn't take iron will - you won't feel like you're starving or anything. You just have to get through the false starts you will have until you're finally committed to losing the weight.

Anthony W.
06-18-11, 05:59 PM
1)This doesn't take iron will - you won't feel like you're starving or anything. You just have to get through the false starts you will have until you're finally committed to losing the weight.

Weather has been crappy for a few days so I've been confined to 50 sit ups before bed.

However, it used to be 10, break, 10, break, 10, break, 10, break, 10

Now its 25, break, 35, break, 50

I don't sleep much at all - can that have an affect?

I'm going to Oshkosh at the end of July. I should be taking 20-50,000 steps (that is several miles, right?) per day while I'm there. If the hotel I'm staying in has a pool, I'll be hitting that a lot. What swimming strokes burn the most calories? I was thinking 100 laps per night.

Sailor Steve
06-18-11, 06:15 PM
What swimming strokes burn the most calories? I was thinking 100 laps per night.
Just being in the pool is harder work than you might think. I used to swim every day, but now it's been years since I was in a pool. Then I lived in an apartment complex that had a pool. Five minutes and I thought I was dying. It's amazing how hard it is to do things you used to take for granted. When I was 19 I could swim the length of an olympic pool and back, underwater. I could also, sitting still, hold my breath for four minutes.

Start off easy, paddle around, work your way up until you can swim several laps. The strokes involved won't matter; you'll be working very hard.

FIREWALL
06-18-11, 06:17 PM
Weather has been crappy for a few days so I've been confined to 50 sit ups before bed.

However, it used to be 10, break, 10, break, 10, break, 10, break, 10

Now its 25, break, 35, break, 50

I don't sleep much at all - can that have an affect?

I'm going to Oshkosh at the end of July. I should be taking 20-50,000 steps (that is several miles, right?) per day while I'm there. If the hotel I'm staying in has a pool, I'll be hitting that a lot. What swimming strokes burn the most calories? I was thinking 100 laps per night.

@ 100 laps per night they'll find you at, the bottom of the Pool. :haha:

Stealhead
06-18-11, 11:26 PM
Yeah 100 laps is alot unless you are a regular swimmer unless you are talking a fairly small pool.I would think that either the breast or butterfly stroke would burn the most but just starting off you are not going to do 100
or even 50 laps doing those.Freestyle is the best from a burn some calories but not wear your self out stand point.

I think I could maybe do 100 laps back when I was on the high school swim team all though there where never any events where one person had to swim 100 alone.Also the speed at which you are swimming the laps would have an effect.

Also not sleeping much is not healthy for anyone as a teenager you should be sleeping 8 or 9 hours a night I think I read some place that some teens need more than that a night.
Lack of or too much sleep can also be a sign of depression.Your brain needs good rest period they dont really know fully why the brain needs good rest but it does if you are only sleeping a few hours a night then something is wrong and you need to speak to a doctor or you are simply over working yourself in some way which is not healthy.

Anthony W.
06-19-11, 12:19 AM
They call me a fish for a reason

Trust me, I can do 100 laps in a good sized pool. I can also hold my breath for 4.5 minutes.

My heart is strong as an ox. I just let the fat build up on my gut and thighs...

Tribesman
06-19-11, 02:17 AM
What swimming strokes burn the most calories? I was thinking 100 laps per night.
The whole idea with swimming as part of a fitness program is to mix all the strokes and vary the distances and attempted speeds for each.

Betonov
06-19-11, 02:21 AM
They call me a fish for a reason

Eat beans one night before and they'll call you the torpedo :DL

Jimbuna
06-19-11, 06:15 AM
They call me a fish for a reason



Me too :03:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5305/fishfingers800.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/fishfingers800.jpg/)

Anthony W.
06-20-11, 10:44 PM
I'm up to 30 situps and squats straight through. Tonight I'm gonna try for 50.

Last night, for the first time in over a decade and a half, I had dinner at a restaurant without drinking soda. I had sparkling water instead. Drank a full liter of it, tho.

I got the pasta with egg noodles, scallops, clams, and muscles, so pretty much all protein and vegetables from the sauce

Krauter
06-20-11, 11:08 PM
Well.. the thing is with swimming, you can do 100 laps, but if it takes you 2 hours to do it, then there is a problem.

Start at doing 20-30 minutes of laps. Find how many you can do in that time frame. Do 30 in 30 your first week? Great, try for 40-45 the next week. Gradually increase the speed (and thus amount of laps) in a given time frame and you get high intensity work outs. That is what burns calories. Eventually you will plateau. When that happens, start over, but with a longer time frame. However, do not go to extreme time lengths...

Also, try mixing workouts. At the moment, following knee surgery I can't do cardio as well as I used to (running, biking, stairs, etc) so I do 45 minutes of laps in the pool and then 45 minutes of weights. I lost 5lbs of muscle post op, now I've put on 3 so I'm on my way to being what I was :D.

The point is, try to mix and match as someone stated earlier, and aim for high intensity.

Also, if your looking for a difficult workout that gives good results, look up plometrics (sp?) and their workouts. It's based off of natural movement and producing explosive movements and quick and efficient movements.

Cheers!

FIREWALL
06-20-11, 11:33 PM
I'm up to 30 situps and squats straight through. Tonight I'm gonna try for 50.

Last night, for the first time in over a decade and a half, I had dinner at a restaurant without drinking soda. I had sparkling water instead. Drank a full liter of it, tho.

I got the pasta with egg noodles, scallops, clams, and muscles, so pretty much all protein and vegetables from the sauce


Sorry but,... You just ate a plate full of FAT. You need to eat alot more Fiber. :yep:

Krauter
06-20-11, 11:35 PM
Where do you see fat in there? The only thing that could potentially lead to fat is the Egg noodles...

Anthony W.
06-21-11, 12:49 AM
I'm only going to let myself drink soda on special occasions from now on.

Friday I'm going dancing (not that hip hop crap, I'm talking the Lindy and various speed waltzes) so that should be good.

Krauter
06-21-11, 12:56 AM
Like I said earlier, you can treat yourself every once in a while. Just don't go overboard and realize that you'll have to work it off (though at the pace your going you just need to keep steady)

Anthony W.
06-21-11, 01:15 AM
Like I said earlier, you can treat yourself every once in a while. Just don't go overboard and realize that you'll have to work it off (though at the pace your going you just need to keep steady)

Yeah, I'm extending my time frame till mid August to get rid of the flab. Then I'll start working super intense and hopefully by New Years I'll have some sizeable guns, a year from now The Guns of Navarone, and a year and a half from now be packing some true WMDs.

I think I'm going to talk to my cousin (former wrestling coach) and see if he can give me some help as far as most effective workouts.

I'm REALLY sick of the guy in the mirror being a total stranger.

CptSimFreak
06-21-11, 08:38 AM
Yeah, I'm extending my time frame till mid August to get rid of the flab. Then I'll start working super intense and hopefully by New Years I'll have some sizeable guns, a year from now The Guns of Navarone, and a year and a half from now be packing some true WMDs.

I think I'm going to talk to my cousin (former wrestling coach) and see if he can give me some help as far as most effective workouts.

I'm REALLY sick of the guy in the mirror being a total stranger.

If you're serious, try insanity + recommended diet. You can do it at home without any equipment. High intensity and it will reduce BMI much faster than what you're trying to do....


http://www.amazon.com/INSANITY-60-Day-Conditioning-Workout-Program/dp/B002QZ1RS6/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1308663022&sr=1-1

Anthony W.
06-21-11, 09:17 AM
If you're serious, try insanity + recommended diet. You can do it at home without any equipment. High intensity and it will reduce BMI much faster than what you're trying to do....


http://www.amazon.com/INSANITY-60-Day-Conditioning-Workout-Program/dp/B002QZ1RS6/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1308663022&sr=1-1

I'm def. looking into that

CaptainMattJ.
06-21-11, 01:50 PM
dont eat. 5 pounds is almost impossible otherwise to lose in a week by conventional methods.

so to lose weight, let your body eat itself. if you eat, eat carbs and proteins, and get minerals. eat little, do high intensity stuff.

Swimming is the most intense. look up what Micheal Phelps eats in a day. its crazy. He eats like an 800 - pound dude. why? because swimming burns calories like nobody's buisness. even back at my high school, they recommended we consume 5000+ calories a day, mainly carbs, because while swimming wont build any muscle, itll burn your flab clean off. Weight lifting also burns fat like nobody's business. Muscle takes alot of fuel. More muscle = more calories your body ends up burning to feed those muscles.


these extreme workouts for your muscles will kill you (i.e the INSANITY type workouts). When you work out to the point where you cant lift anymore, your muscles actually tear apart. Your supposed to let your muscles rebuild themselves, stronger, before your rip them up again, something these workouts dont necessarily address. Drink LOTS of water. when your muscles tear, they expel lactic acid. The acid will keep your muscles sore and weak. Water helps your body expel the acid through waste faster.

Krauter
06-21-11, 02:35 PM
I agree with a lot of the things Capt. Matt just said..

Aside from not eating. People need to understand you CAN eat. Just be smart about it...

Anthony W.
06-21-11, 10:03 PM
I'm going down to 1000 calories per day starting tomorrow or the day after.

I need to make that up of 2 or 3 items.

Good things to do that? I hear that Activia yogurt is good

Krauter
06-21-11, 10:24 PM
http://xbradtc.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/facepalm.jpg?w=450&h=360

Anthony W.
06-22-11, 12:07 AM
http://xbradtc.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/facepalm.jpg?w=450&h=360

I only "need" 2100 calories per day.

Not TOO dramatic.

Krauter
06-22-11, 12:15 AM
No.. the average overweight person who sits on their couch eating take out meals needs 2000...

You are running an increased exercise regimen and you plan on cutting out more then HALF the daily recommended intake of calories, plus limiting your sugars and a host of other things vital to your health....

I've given you my advice. If you want to continue cutting your nutrient intake and all that go ahead.... but think about what ruins the perfectly good diet.. it's all well and fine if you can maintain 1000 calories for a few weeks, but what happens when your done your diet and you go back to 2000, 3000 or 4000 calories?

The weight comes back on.

Enjoy :up:

Tribesman
06-22-11, 01:46 AM
Krauter, don't bother. Firewall was right.

antikristuseke
06-22-11, 02:34 AM
A 1000 calories a day on an exercise regime?
You know, there is a reason why when i was in the army we took in 4000 calories a day while some of the less fit people still lost weight, right?

Krauter
06-22-11, 03:38 AM
Krauter, don't bother. Firewall was right.

Meh alright.

It amazes me of what stupidity people come to with the goal of losing weight. Only until they're finished to they see the extent of it as well as the danger in it..

Ahh well I tried.

Anthony W.
06-22-11, 11:49 AM
Meh alright.

It amazes me of what stupidity people come to with the goal of losing weight. Only until they're finished to they see the extent of it as well as the danger in it..

Ahh well I tried.

Theres a reason I posted this before I did it.

Can I cut a few hundred calories out, tho? Like, go down to 1800?

I'm already looking a bit better in the mirror. Not much - but some.

Bakkels
06-22-11, 03:29 PM
Well 1800 could be enough on days you don't work out. Why are you obsessed with cutting down on calories? Calories don't equal weight or fat. It's been said a lot of times before here; if you work out you burn those calories. And if you work out pretty hard every day, you probably even need more than 2000 a day. Calories don't mean a thing, it's about what you make them body turn them in to.

Betonov
06-22-11, 03:33 PM
Don't watch cooking shows.

And move to the Alps, every walk is an uphill struggle uuffff

Jimbuna
06-22-11, 04:27 PM
Don't watch cooking shows.

And move to the Alps, every walk is an uphill struggle uuffff

LOL :DL

Anthony W.
06-22-11, 04:43 PM
Don't watch cooking shows.

And move to the Alps, every walk is an uphill struggle uuffff

The cooking channel is on right now...

Lol

Betonov
06-22-11, 04:53 PM
LOL :DL

I'm not kidding. Within 1km north of my house the ground rises from 600m sealevel to 1100m, then falls again to 600m and then rises to 2500m. I literally have a mountain in my backyard.

Jimbuna
06-23-11, 04:35 AM
Something well worth seeing, of that I've no doubt but I wouldn't be too keen on walking them :o

Betonov
06-23-11, 04:56 AM
Don't worry, there are also senior paths. Longer but on a much gentler slope :O:
And I know them all, I always walked them during my asthma days :DL

Tribesman
06-23-11, 05:26 AM
Don't worry, there are also senior paths. Longer but on a much gentler slope
How many calories does a senior path burn and if I did 100 gentler slope on a senior road would I get fit quick eating only tissue paper or is their more muscle for the mirror in newsprint smeared with yoghurt?:03:

Jimbuna
06-23-11, 06:06 AM
Don't worry, there are also senior paths. Longer but on a much gentler slope :O:
And I know them all, I always walked them during my asthma days :DL


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1311/men1411.gif

How many calories does a senior path burn and if I did 100 gentler slope on a senior road would I get fit quick eating only tissue paper or is their more muscle for the mirror in newsprint smeared with yoghurt?:03:

LOL :DL

Anthony W.
06-25-11, 01:29 PM
I'm not kidding. Within 1km north of my house the ground rises from 600m sealevel to 1100m, then falls again to 600m and then rises to 2500m. I literally have a mountain in my backyard.

Pics or gtfo? Lol seriously I'd love to see it. Hows the skiing in the area?

Betonov
06-25-11, 01:59 PM
Pics or gtfo? Lol seriously I'd love to see it. Hows the skiing in the area?

There's already dark here, so I'll take a photo that shows the hill/valley/mountain ehind my house tommorow. Here's a nice picture I took just 1,5 hours walk from my house.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/263496_241663532512838_100000075783694_1071436_899 193_n.jpg

Skiing?? We have dozens of smaller ski resorts and hundreds non-official ski areas (pastures not in use in the winter). Winter tourism brings about half of all tourist income.

http://www.slovenia.info/?smucanje=0&lng=2

Anthony W.
06-26-11, 10:13 PM
Got a personal trainer. Problem solved.

PS: I'd love to ski down those cliffs