VIIC or IXC?

[Alpha Von Burg]

I just want to your opinion in this matter, a type VIIC u-boat or the type IXC u-boat.

I just wanted to know because right now I am having a dilemma on which to get.

Please answer the poll and tell me your opinion and reasons as to why you have picked this u-boat from the two.

From the depths...

[Gerald]

IXC, in my view, wins in the long run, :yep:

[sublynx]

VII, stealth is the number one priority for me and VII is smaller than IX. Type II does not have the range nor weaponry, so VIIC is a nice compromise.

[Magic1111]

I vote for VIIC ! :up:

- Better handling

- shorter diving times

- better for Konvoi-Attacks

[Osmium Steele]

For tooling around anywhere east of the GI-UK gap a VIIC is a more suvivable ride.

I'm really enjoying the juicy, under-defended caribbean tanker convoys at the moment, so my IXC is the right choice.

I guess it depends on what you want to do with your next boat.

[TheGreatHonker]

I can't decide either.

I guess VIIC, because it turns and dives faster.

But the IXC can stay out longer.

hmmmmmmm...

[Kapt Z]

Always been a VIIB/C guy. Just a great looking boat.

Can't beat that dive time and if you stop at milk cows or supply ships you can go almost anywhere.

Heard there is a mod now that corrects the 'giant' watch crew on type IXs. That always bugged me when I took out a IX. Will have to try it out.

[VONHARRIS]

I vote for the IXC
More torpedoes (though depends on weather to move the externals in)
Long range
And I like it better as a picture

[Bakkels]

Hard to choose but I'll go with the type IX. (b or c doesn't really make that much of a difference) I like the VII for it's manoeuvreability and faster diving.
But the IX has a lot more torpedoes. And you can sail her to the Caribbean! Those two combined offer the possibility of multiple-month patrols :D
And the IX looks good. (The VII too, but the IX just slightly better IMO)
So I'll vote type IX, but I love (and use) them both.

[STEED]

The IX U-Boats for me.

[Missing Name]

The IX's are hard hitters. I DO like how VII's handle underwater, though.

[BossMark]

I voted for IX because I like it better :O:

[Sailor Steve]

I run a separate career from each available flotilla, so I use both, as well as the Type II which you just left right off. :cry:

[Jimbuna]

IX every time....see the world and have a heavier punch when it comes to the fight.

Unless the Type XXIII is available of course.

[Fish In The Water]

VIIC for the maneuverability... Quick dive, in and out and spin on a dime... :03:

[max-peck]

I've done careers in the Type II and Type VII.
Never tried the IX.
Maybe it's time I gave it a go :hmmm:

[RGA]

For survival I'd go for the VIIC, but the IXC is for those who want to be Captain Nemo spending the whole life at sea, myself included :arrgh!:

[Ducimus]

I just want to your opinion in this matter, a type VIIC u-boat or the type IXC u-boat.

I just wanted to know because right now I am having a dilemma on which to get.



The real question is, do you prefer long range patrols to far flung areas, or small to mid range patrols in areas not so far flung?

The boat type is irrelevant, its what you intend to do - that is the real question, because your intent dictates what is the best tool (boat) for the job.

[Snestorm]

Of the choices given, IXC. (IXB is my favorite).
Believe it or not, I like the way a IX handles better.
Though it's not as maneuverable as a VII, it's a much more stable platform.
Also like the longer legs, and increased oxygen supply.

[Alpha Von Burg]

The real question is, do you prefer long range patrols to far flung areas, or small to mid range patrols in areas not so far flung?


I guess you are right, It all comes down as to what you want to do.

I guess I'll go for the IXC as the way I figure, the VIIB, the uboat I am currently using, woudl probably do just as well as the VIIC in earlier years, it just looks really nice.

I have never tried far venturing missions but I have always wanted to try. So I guess I'll go for the IXC. Its realise date should give me time to staighten up my renown before I get.

But just for the interest, I'll keep the polls up for anyone who might have something to say.

Thanks for all of your help.:salute:

[Kermit the Frog]

I like attacking convoys. And it's always hard to decide for me either. Early war - definitely IXB. Large amount of torpedo plus greater surface speed is big advantage, and because avoiding DC is easy, agility of type VII isn't really advantage. But after from second half of 1942, if you still want to attack convoy and survive, you need VIIC.
Radar equipped planes, modern ASDIC's, Seek & Destroy DD patrols make life of VIIC's captain hard one, and life of IXC's captain short one.

In short: IXC is better attacker, and VIIC makes your chances for survive bigger. If you're "old lone wolf", and you have your "always working tricks" you can try IXC. It gives you opportunity to complete annihilation of enemy convoy. You don't need to evade escort, you just sinking them.
But usually IXC it's better in hunting "big ones" travelling without escort. Dealing with convoy is usually job for VIIC.

[Bernhard Bernard]

Personally, I quite like turtles.

[sublynx]

Personally, I quite like turtles.

In an older thread the battleworthiness of ducks have been considered too: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=184059&page=2

[Bernhard Bernard]

Ah yes, the duck. Although they just don't handle like a Turtle does underwater.

[BigK]

I like the IX-types better, they can carry more torpedoes and that's always a plus. :yeah:
If you plan your attack well, you almost never need the couple of seconds faster diving that a VII-type can provide. You also carry more fuel so you can cover a greater area.

+ YOU GET TWO STERN TUBES !!!! :woot:

you can shoot two at the pesky escort tracking you, while he turns away from the first torpedo the second will always hit !!

[gt_magnus]

For me it's the VII-series because of the handling and it's ability to escape escorts! :up:

[Fish In The Water]

If you plan your attack well, you almost never need the couple of seconds faster diving that a VII-type can provide.

True, save for me (when I push the envelope) those couple of seconds often make the difference between being rammed and sweet escape.

I like the IX-types better, they can carry more torpedoes and that's always a plus. :yeah:

I'm with you here so I mod my VII to increase the loadout considerably. That way I can enjoy the best of both worlds. :up:

[FUBAR295]

I'd go with the IXC ... further range, more eels, deeper diving.

[VonApist]

I vote for VIIC because it just "feels" better, despite less torpedoes and diving depth. So far in my various careers a depth of 220 I sufficient and VIIC provides for this...

An i like the way it looks, dives and provides for a smaller target



Thats just me though:arrgh!:

[Herr-Berbunch]

I've never had the IX, I can reach far flung places using the cows. I do generally run out of ammunition though so maybe I should be looking at getting a new boot. :hmmm:

[Hitman]

The real question is, do you prefer long range patrols to far flung areas, or small to mid range patrols in areas not so far flung?

The boat type is irrelevant, its what you intend to do - that is the real question, because your intent dictates what is the best tool (boat) for the job.

+1 :up:

[f4wildweasel]

I like to use the VIIC most of the time, especially for a quick attack on a convoy or task group or the occasional harbor raid. Though, to be honest, I always try to get transferred to a type IX around late '41 so I can partake in Paukenschlag. Shelling Whaling ships and tankers in the Caribbean is always a blast (no pun intended)

[matti95]

I would say VIIC it's faster, dives faster and so on....
But around 1941 im doing like f4wildweasel and changes to IX :up:

[Snestorm]

The gap is closing.
Hope BDU can get enough IXs built to go around.

[Brag]

I´ve had most interesting patrols "escorting" northbound convoys from Freetown in a IX. Two weeks of daily attacks :D

[Captain Titanic]

They both have advantages the VIIC is more maneuverable and dives faster but has relatively weak armour, the IXC is stronger and has a larger load-out but suffers from its large size and k believe it has a longer range
In WWII the IX U-Boat was strongly disliked by their crews they called it a Pig most Captains kept their VIIC boats

[Riccardo1975]

Just finished my seventh patrol on Dec 22nd1940 and thought id upgrade to a IXC from my old type IXB, U-111. Got U-66 which has a nice paint job, two spare torps have been movedforward and the crew get a guard rail along either side. Lovely. I have lost my 37mm heavy flak and I've only got one 20mm position. Which I had to upgrade to a zwilling... The Caribbean better be full of Large Tankers. :D

[jakethescot]

I always use a Type II, but have used a Type VII on occasion. I've never even been a Type IX so I'll have to say; VIIC.

[UKönig]

I always liked the look of they type 7, but I usually upgrade to the type 9 when available, because I like having more torpedos, and tubes to fire them with...

[TarJak]

Undead thread.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100102171047/asdf/images/thumb/1/1c/Necro2.jpg/400px-Necro2.jpg

[Rammstein0991]

I defo prefer the Type IX, Its a good choice ESPECIALLY if you're one of those who insists on manual torpedo targeting (more "fish" to fire)

I will say though that most overlook that the type IX had two purposes to its extremely long ranged design, one was indeed striking at far off targets (such as the Caribbean) the other was to be a "convoy killer", basically it was also designed to be able to stalk and repeatedly attack the same convoy "night after night" hence the large torpedo stores.

[Jimbuna]

Undead thread.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100102171047/asdf/images/thumb/1/1c/Necro2.jpg/400px-Necro2.jpg

LOL :)

[scott_c2911]

Having sailed in all of them apart from the new ones added in gwx and the type XXI im going to be different and say a type IXB. My reasons being that the IXB still has the same amount of torpedoes as a IXC but a faster dive time. It has a shorter range though which for some is major drawback. With the metox detector rigged and the quadruple barelled 20mm AA gun plus two other 20mm guns its an more effective defence against aircraft both through evasion and stand up and fight scenarios. I know this isnt an answer to your original post so I would have the VIIC out of the two boats. The dive time in a IXC is dangerously slow

[KleineUboot]

In my opinion, IXC is much better coz of bigger range and 22 torpedoes instead of 14. But, in other hand, BdU will send you to patrol grids which are far away from your home port, and that will make your patrols long and a bit boring.

[Kessner]

As a toss up between the type 7 or 9? Well I guess the type 9. Yeah I have to go with that. The type 9 hunted of the eastern cost at a location area called torpeido ally, also used to drop off spys from around that cost including Cannada. Very much a all pourpose boat. The type 7 has its pourpose too, it is a nice medium range attack boat, better handling, best one to use sneeking around shallow waters off locations too far for a type 2 thats for sure.

But I am a big boat kind of guy, and a type 9 has my name all over it!!!
So type 9 for me..:salute:

[KleineUboot]

But I am a big boat kind of guy, and a type 9 has my name all over it!!!
So type 9 for me..:salute:
I like big boats too... And my favorite is IXB. This U-boot type is a compromise between fast-diving VIIC and long-ranged IXC.

[Aktungbby]

Undead thread.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100102171047/asdf/images/thumb/1/1c/Necro2.jpg/400px-Necro2.jpg...just came across this ancient thread doing some errant research; and decided to vote (VIIC!). At certain point in the war, IX Uboats with their 22 eel full capacity could not remain surfaced long enough to transfer the steam torpedoes below decks due to incessant bomber coverage and rough unstabilzing seas. They stopped carrying the full allotment of topside eels in 1943. The VII, with the quicker crash-dive and a smaller crew to feed and 12 of 14 eels inside the vessel, was more economical and safer. Only steam torpedoes could be stored on the exterior deck as electric eels required constant maintenance and battery heating for full 5000 meter range. Moreover any shockwave from a close-call depth charge attack could render exterior stored eels unusable; a particularly aggravating factor considering the risk/labor (4 hours) of surfacing to transfer them below decks only to find there's a problem....:hmmm: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=244680 https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2665053&postcount=13

[David I]

Join the Kriegsmarine and see the world in the Type IX.

David I

[Shadowblade]

I like Type IX - more torpedoes (= more tonnage per patrol), better deck gun, range and good flak.

[CapZap1970]

I like Type IX - more torpedoes (= more tonnage per patrol), better deck gun, range and good flak.
Same reasons why I like the IXB/C subs.... :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Aktungbby]

JEEZE!! My first official :subsim: necro-thred resurrection!!:arrgh!: thanks Kaleuns!:Kaleun_Salute:

[FUBAR295]

Happy Halloween ... maybe?? :06: :timeout:

Beware the Flying Dutchman !!!!:o

[MarkShot]

VIIC - The boat just seems to fit like a well worn glove. It gets the job done, and brings the crew home at the end of our patrol.


It might be imagined, but I feel the pride of the crew in fine German engineering.

[dashyr]

Depends on what you want.

Objectively, the Type IX is the better boat. More range and more torpedoes makes it able to stay in the fight longer.

But, the type VII does have an advantage for being smaller. It is more nimble underwater and dive faster. So, from a defensive point of view and avoiding escorts it is a better boat.