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Critics say the e-mails may damage Palin's presidential chances.
Details are emerging of Sarah Palin's life as governor of Alaska, following the release of 24,000 pages of her e-mails by officials in the US state.
As well as the mundane matters of political office, the correspondence reveals her frustration over rumours about her family and marriage.
Media organisations applied to see the e-mails in 2008 when she was picked as the Republican running mate.
Mrs Palin is widely viewed as a potential 2012 presidential candidate.
Alaska has released 24,199 printed pages of e-mails covering Mrs Palin's first 21 months as governor - from 2006 until she accepted the vice-presidential nomination.
Praise for Obama
Reporters from a number of news organisations descended on the Alaskan capital of Juneau on Friday to sift through the documents, which were only released in paper form.
Some of the correspondence is written in Mrs Palin's trademark folksy manner. The day after she was plucked from relative obscurity in 2008 for the presidential ticket of Republican nominee John McCain, she wrote to an associate: "Can you flippinbelieveit?!"
The e-mails reveal her irritation at the so-called Troopergate affair, when she was accused of pursuing a vendetta against her sister's ex-husband, an Alaska policeman.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13733501
Note: 11 June 2011 Last updated at 09:04 GMT
Feuer Frei!
06-11-11, 08:48 AM
I haven't read all 24 000 pages of her emails but the article Vendor has copy-pasta'd seems to indicate that she is human.
Yep, human.
Why? How?:
As well as the mundane matters of political office, the correspondence reveals her frustration over rumours about her family and marriage.
Some of the correspondence is written in Mrs Palin's trademark folksy manner.
The day after she was plucked from relative obscurity in 2008 for the presidential ticket of Republican nominee John McCain, she wrote to an associate: "Can you flippinbelieveit?!"
Yep, all very damaging stuff indeed.
Ofc i'm a realist, i'm sure there will be more to it than that.
Or will there be? The media will have something to say about that.
As for being human? I guess as a politician, being human and showing human values is something that shouldn't be done.
If you ask the media, or your fellow oposition.
Imo, there isn't enough of that. Human politicians.
Torplexed
06-11-11, 08:51 AM
Sarah Palin is no longer a politician. She ceased being someone anyone had to take seriously the moment she left the office of governor of Alaska two years early and signed up to be the subject of a "reality" show. She's a "celebrity commodity"; she asked the public to consume her "product" and they are. Most of the e-mails released seem pretty banal so far.
I'm sure that any and all publicity Palin gets is exactly what she wants.
Where I agree with you Torplexed, that she is entitled extremely media obsessed, and I can say that the material, is not controversial as what I had previously.
AVGWarhawk
06-11-11, 09:25 AM
Sadly this woman has had a journalist colonoscopy. Has there ever been anyone vetted as Palins has been? They are still climbing up her butt. For someone who is such a non-entity and as dumb as a box of rocks folks sure do follower here like the proverbal Pied Piper. The entire Palin bashing and investigations is completely anal.
Feuer Frei!
06-11-11, 09:42 AM
So for a non US Citizen to be enlightened, what seems to be the deciding factor(s) for hounding the heck out of this Woman?
I mean, if she is absolutely no threat to any political parties or persons, then why the heck not just leave her alone? Are you Guys (and i mean the Media and Political Editors etc etc) that write about her continuously so bored and in love with her, figuratively speaking, that maybe, just maybe there is other things to write about. Or rather other, more influential and 'real' Presidential hopes.
Just curious.
AVGWarhawk
06-11-11, 09:47 AM
Maybe they are trying to find out if she is really a man. Who knows what drives the media on Palin. Probably the usual...ratings and profit.
Torplexed
06-11-11, 09:50 AM
So for a non US Citizen to be enlightened, what seems to be the deciding factor(s) for hounding the heck out of this Woman?
I mean, if she is absolutely no threat to any political parties or persons, then why the heck not just leave her alone? Are you Guys (and i mean the Media and Political Editors etc etc) that write about her continuously so bored and in love with her, figuratively speaking, that maybe, just maybe there is other things to write about. Or rather other, more influential and 'real' Presidential hopes.
Just curious.
It would be easier for the press to leave her alone if, like George Bush, she just retired quietly. Maybe to some corner of Alaska. But she is partly to blame by constantly putting herself in the public eye by making road trips, buying a huge house in Arizona, showing up in states where other Republican presidential candidates are announcing. Going to dinner with Donald Trump, etc. Plus she a biographical movie about her term as governor coming out next week.
She's playing the presidential tease game, and the press are playing along with her.
So for a non US Citizen to be enlightened, what seems to be the deciding factor(s) for hounding the heck out of this Woman?
I mean, if she is absolutely no threat to any political parties or persons, then why the heck not just leave her alone? Are you Guys (and i mean the Media and Political Editors etc etc) that write about her continuously so bored and in love with her, figuratively speaking, that maybe, just maybe there is other things to write about. Or rather other, more influential and 'real' Presidential hopes.
Just curious.
Maybe they tray to radiculate face of conservatives and America through her?
i'm not a Palin fan, but this entire exercise by the press is instructive. They press countless reporters into this, and also ask for volunteers in the general public to assist them in reading the emails of someone who at this point is not even a candidate for President.
How many reporters did they press into the effort to even look up the public documents and positions of Obama when he was in his state legislature? How about his legal practice? School records for college?
None, as far as I can tell. Maybe Fox tried with a few.
This is bias. Bias doesn't have to be so obvious in the text of reporting, but in focus. Create a task force to investigate one person's emails, and ignore the entire past of another—OK, ignore is not fair. They all read, and repeated (often breathlessly, perhaps even with a tingle up their leg) whatever Obama wrote in his autobiographies.
Maybe they tray to radiculate face of conservatives and America through her?
This ^
It's what people mean when they say that US mainstream media has a liberal bias.
No one in there right mind can take her seriously and to honest she has some what become a media joke.
No one in there right mind can take her seriously and to honest she has some what become a media joke.
So in other words Liberal Mission Accomplished.
So in other words Liberal Mission Accomplished.
I will take your word for it. :k_rofl: :up:
I will take your word for it.
Well you ought to just like I take you Brits word on matters English. :salute:
I wonder how many words were written about Palin's terrible Paul Revere gaffe vs Obama's terrible "I'm campaigning in 57 states" gaffe? Do you think only an order of magnitude more about Palin? 2 orders of magnitude? More?
It was pretty clear in the last election, the press spent far more time scrutinizing the credentials of (and digging up dirt on) the republican VP candidate than the democrat presidential one.
I think this actually backfires, though. All it does is show the press to be biased, and they are already distrusted.
I hope she doesn't run, frankly, though if she does, I bet she runs as an Independent (thus guaranteeing a 2d Obama term).
Platapus
06-11-11, 02:53 PM
Critics say the e-mails may damage Palin's presidential chances.
I don't think these E-mails are going to affect people's opinion of Palin. By this time, people have formed their opinion of Palin.
People who like her won't be affected by these E-mails
People who don't like her won't like her less because of these E-mails.
Personally, I think it is cruddy that these E-mails are being released. I know I would hate it if my business E-mails were released to the public.
Tribesman
06-11-11, 02:55 PM
I wonder how many words were written about Palin's terrible Paul Revere gaffe vs Obama's terrible "I'm campaigning in 57 states" gaffe?
That would only be a valid comparison if Bama went on TV to insist there really are 57 states after the gaffe or if some moonbats had gone on wiki to change the map on the USA page
Don't worry, she'll survive. :doh:
http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin
http://www.sarahpac.com/
mookiemookie
06-11-11, 04:43 PM
That would only be a valid comparison if Bama went on TV to insist there really are 57 states after the gaffe or if some moonbats had gone on wiki to change the map on the USA page
And that settles that. Obama had campaigned in 47 states at that point. To make a slip of the tongue and say 57 states in that scenario is understandable. If anyone believes that a Harvard cum laude grad who taught constitutional law honestly thinks theres 57 states in the nation, then they're the.... :88)
To be so stupid as to not know what Paul Revere did...they teach about his midnight ride in grade school, for god's sake...and then to double down on your mistake by insisting you're right is sheer willful ignorance. She, and her followers, revel in that ignorance.
THAT'S why there's a Palin witch hunt. It's all about being the first to cover the next piece of stupidity to come out of her mouth.
And there's no comparison with Obama, or Dubya for that matter. Presidents don't release their private school documents. Bush's only came out because of a leak. Palin's emails as governor are public record.
There's an old Japanese proverb: "The nail that stands the highest, gets hit first and hardest." Palin is a very high standing nail and she has brought the scutiny on herself. I don't believe there is any more scutiny of her than there is of anyone else in her position. It is a little naive and self-serving for her supporters to insist she is being singled out unfairly for media attention. Prior posts have tried to draw comparisons between efforts to investigate Obama's past and Palin's. The inference (if not outright statement) is the "liberal-controlled" media goes soft on Obama and not on Palin. This is absurd if only for the fact there is a substantial "conservative-controlled" media that has and most likely still is delving into the background and actions of Obama, past, present, and, assuredly, future. If they had found anything of material import, we would have heard about it by now. Also, use a little logic and ask yourself if you were an owner or editor of a media outlet, would you bury a sure-fire, front page, attention getting (possibly Pulitzer) story because of political bias? Would you risk your journalistic reputation or employment? Would you want to be known as the person who passed on possibly the story of the decade (if the "dirt" was dirty enough)? Even if you subscribe to the "liberal-controlled" media paradigm, do you think Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al., would balk at the chance to be the one to bring Obama down? As may be possible with Palin's e-mails, perhaps no Obama secrets have come to light before because "there is no there, there".
There is, truthfully, a form of media bias that often goes unnoticed: the slant or spin. This is selective journalism at its most insidious. Rev. Jesse Jackson like to tell a fable about media reportage:
Jesse Jackson and the Pope decide to have a face-to-face meeting. They decide to meet in a row boat in the middle of a lake to be out of ear-shot of the media, who ring the shore. During the meeting, a strong wind blows the Pope's hat off his head and into the lake. Jesse climbs out of the boat, walks on the water, retrieves the Pope's hat and returns to the row boat. And what does the press report the next day? Does the headline read "Jesse Jackson Meets with Pope"? No. "Jesse Jackson Saves Pope's Hat"? No. "Jesse Jackson Walks on Water"? No. The headlines read "Jesse Jackson Can't Swim".
Think of that the next time you see or hear an eye-catching headline. Oh, and no I am most certainly not a Jesse Jackson supporter but I do appreciate his take on media.
Just, e-mail note
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/11_06_2011_palinemail_teleprompter_fake_interview. pdf
Yeah, doubling down for palin was idiotic. Obama also said 10,000 died the day before in a speech due to a tornado. Gore said the core of the earth was millions of degrees.
No one in politics is terribly smart
krashkart
06-11-11, 11:06 PM
So for a non US Citizen to be enlightened, what seems to be the deciding factor(s) for hounding the heck out of this Woman?
I mean, if she is absolutely no threat to any political parties or persons, then why the heck not just leave her alone? Are you Guys (and i mean the Media and Political Editors etc etc) that write about her continuously so bored and in love with her, figuratively speaking, that maybe, just maybe there is other things to write about. Or rather other, more influential and 'real' Presidential hopes.
Just curious.
It's nothing personal against Palin as a person. Just take a gander at the course material I've worked up for next year... :yeah:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tngWMToWtCc/SAeUiz9W3FI/AAAAAAAAED0/BFQ0J4PaaNI/s400/Screenshot14.png
...next slide please... :oops:
<sermon>
Welcome to
The American Way of Getting Things Done The American Way 101
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=179&pictureid=1878
Here you will learn how to cheat, how to lie, how to obfuscate, how to manipulate and dupe people into voting for one letter or the other. Most preferably you want the people to vote for your letter... *blahblahblah ad naseum* ... and most importantly you want an ace in your sleeve. Take Sarah Palin for example. She's not serious about running for President, but we sure would like the common folk to believe that she is. Why? Welllemme tellya... :know:
</sermon>
Substitute a few loser names and repeat that process over a couple of decades and you begin to get the picture. It's a load of crap, Feuer; just the same as anywhere else in the world. :salute:
Ducimus
06-13-11, 09:16 AM
There's an old Japanese proverb: "The nail that stands the highest, gets hit first and hardest." Palin is a very high standing nail and she has brought the scutiny on herself.
That sounds like an accurate assesment to me.
I agree, but then again after the 2004 DNC speech, Obama was a very high nail indeed.
Except, instead of hitting it down, the press seems to have mounted it and rode it ;)
Ducimus
06-13-11, 10:43 AM
All i know is Palin stuck out to me from day 1 she emerged from bumblefark Alaska. She sounded incredibly dumb and ignorant to me. I was all aboard the McCain ticket until he stupidly choose Palin as his running mate. First impressions are hard to break, and i still think of her as dumb and ignorant of the world past her front porch. Wait... i take that back. I also think of her as a whiney attention whore too, along with dumb and ignorant. Although.. i have to hand it to her for knowing how to cash on on new found fame. That takes some semblance of intelligence i suppose.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem voting for a woman to go to the white house. But NOT Palin. She's too F'ing stupid of the world. And certainly NOT Clinton, she's too power hungry.
The Paul Revere thing was pretty stupid. The correct response should have been to just say she misspoke, and said "British" when clearly any idiot meant "Americans" or "Colonials." Instead she doubles down. Obama has been doing that all along, though. He kowtows to a king, then doubles down.
Even though I don't like Palin, you have to admit, the press is rabid about hurting her. She's not even a candidate, and they spend more effort reading her emails already than they spent checking up on Obama, period. Where are Obama's legal records from his time as a lawyer? What about his documents from the state legislature (which like all pols should be public)? The birther nonsense masked the real issues of docs that the public really needed to see, and never did, which is probably why he strung it along the way he did.
Bottom line is that I'm fine with reading all the official emails (obviously everyone should have some expectation of privacy with personal mails) of any public official, heck, every single work-related thing they ever wrote. But the standard should be EQUAL, and scaled to the person in terms of time spent by press. The more important, the more time. The president's old stuff should get the lion's share, and the final candidate on the ballot running against, the exact same. Primary candidates should expect the same scrutiny, but the press should devote less time to them, clearly. People who have not even declared yet? Unless the press has more than 30 (a LOT more) working on EACH of the other Republicans seeking nomination, and more than 30 digging dirt on Obama (not covering, but "digging dirt"), then this is over the top, IMHO.
Tribesman
06-13-11, 10:58 AM
I agree, but then again after the 2004 DNC speech, Obama was a very high nail indeed.
A bit of a difference there though, Palin just appears like she is thick as pigslop and seems to revel in demonstrating again and again how dumb she is.
Obama has been doing that all along, though. He kowtows to a king, then doubles down.
Off on one of your repeated nonsensical episodes again?
A bit of a difference there though, Palin just appears like she is thick as pigslop and seems to revel in demonstrating again and again how dumb she is.
The press is rabid about attacking her. I'm fine with digging dirt on every last one of them, regardless of party. But the same people that deride "fair and balanced" used to describe Fox (I don't watch TV news (or commentary) at all, so don't even go there), seem to have no problem with the press putting way more effort into "researching" a non-candidate than they ever did on the candidate of their choice.
Multiple full-time people reading old emails, and none even asking if any old Obama emails exist, much less reading them, and asking people at large to dig dirt for them.
What a joke the media is today, what about the war powers act, the state of the economy, why 44 million people are on food stamps, why gas is over 4 dollars a gallon, a freakin drug war in our border states, and we have the worst president to date in office, they have to go after her, you go girl, you rock:har::har::har::har::har:
AVGWarhawk
06-13-11, 11:26 AM
The trove of more than 13,000 emails detailing almost every aspect of Sarah Palin***8217;s governorship of Alaska, released late on Friday, paints a picture of her as an idealistic, conscientious, humorous and humane woman slightly bemused by the world of politics.
One can only assume that the Left-leaning editors who dispatched teams (http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/sarah-palin-emails-revealed-live-updates) of (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jun/10/sarah-palin-emails-live-coverage) reporters (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-palin-emails-verge----20110610,0,7760796.story) to remote Juneau, the Alaskan capital, to pore over the emails in the hope of digging up a scandal are now viewing the result as a rather poor return on their considerable investment.
If anything, Mrs Palin seems likely to emerge from the scrutiny of the 24,000 pages, contained in six boxes and weighing 275 pounds, with her reputation considerably enhanced. As a blogger at Powerline noted (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/06/029215.php), the whole saga might come to be viewed as ***8220;an embarrassment for legacy media***8221;.
She is, however, viewed with a kind of horrified fascination by many in the media, who faithfully records everything she says and does while at the same time decrying her as ignorant and even evil.
Mrs Palin has repeatedly said that she believes Mr Obama can be defeated and that she will do everything to achieve that.
And with the help of the dumb media she just might accomplish this.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100091820/american-way-sarah-palin-email-frenzy-backfires-on-her-media-antagonists/
Tribesman
06-13-11, 11:37 AM
Once again tater you ignore reality.
The mainstream press "reseaerching" your current president is a full time occurance. Regularrly we get to see here mainstream press accusations being made about him, his wife kids friends relations associates strangers....all the way back to birth and even beyond. Then you have the mainstream press further covering all of those little nuggets and digging up every little thing they can until it emerges that it was all bollox in the first place.
Then funnily enough you get people popping up here repeating the same old media stories again and again months or even years after they were already shown to be complete bollox.
you go girl, you rock
A quality endorsement.
So yubba would you describe yourself as a typical Palin fan?:rotfl2:
Where are Obama's records from his time as a lawyer? Who were his clients? His school records (college)? His tenure as a state lawmaker?
If it weren't for the outlandish statements of his spiritual mentor, the kooky Rev. Wright, there'd have been little coverage of his past at all (past lovingly reading his bio).
Of course, once president, they are under 24/7 scrutiny. That is different than "background" before they are elected.
Again, Palin is a private citizen who currently holds no public office, and who is not yet even running for office. She gets clearly disproportionate coverage and "dirt digging" compared to others that deserve such coverage.
I'm not even sure she's gonna run (I certainly hope not).
AVGWarhawk
06-13-11, 11:56 AM
Again, Palin is a private citizen who currently holds no public office, and who is not yet even running for office. She gets clearly disproportionate coverage and "dirt digging" compared to others that deserve such coverage.
This Tribesman. :yep: It is a great waste of time and resources for the media that covers her. Then again, if Palin was not such a cash cow for the media and the attention their paper/station receives then what is she?
Ducimus
06-13-11, 12:11 PM
Even though I don't like Palin, you have to admit, the press is rabid about hurting her. .
Just as an aside. I haven't ready much of anything the press has written about her. Reading too far into political articles just takes more time and patience then i'm willing to put forth on the subject. I have a very low BS tolerance. No.. the press didn't really influence my thoughts on Palin. The presidential debates did.
Tribesman
06-13-11, 12:13 PM
She gets clearly disproportionate coverage and "dirt digging" compared to others that deserve such coverage.
This Tribesman. :yep:
Isn't it funny that AVGs blogger in that conservative media outlet has been running "is she ain't she will she please" articles since her VP ticket went down the drain.
How can you say she gets disproportionate coverage when she has her own media "news" slot, her own political action commitee pushing what passes for her agenda and a series of nationwide media tours promoting herself?
Someone cannot court daily media coverage then complain about daily media coverage.
I think the only reason for most of the complaints over the "disproportionate" coverage are that
(a) the media shows her to be crap
(b) enough idiots like her no matter what and a "media conspiracy" feeds their "ideas" which gives more coverage which makes her look dumber which.....
(c)she is dividing the GOP and distracting with fringe issues as well as driving away the center which is key to any election.
AVGWarhawk
06-13-11, 12:42 PM
Someone cannot court daily media coverage then complain about daily media coverage.
Quoting the daily media coverage as a case and point concerning the overzealous media that looks to be assisting Palin in her quest to remove Obama from the White House. The quoted portion on that seems to understand how incredibly stupid this is concerning the emails and this is the best you have to say about it?
I think the only reason for most of the complaints over the "disproportionate" coverage are that
(a) the media shows her to be crap
I think you are wrong. For a person who is a non-entity the hounds were at her old place of employment tackling each other for a peek at some old emails. It is anal at best. Truly the fools are those that persist in following and looking to dig dirt. My quoted article substantiates this whether it be a Liberal, Conserative or some crackpot writing an article.
kraznyi_oktjabr
06-13-11, 01:08 PM
Okay... now. Question for all: Have you considered what "news media" actually is? Is it nonpartisan charity? Rarely. Is it partisan organization? Possibly. Is it business? Well... if we talk about "mainstream media" then most likely: Yes.
"Mainstream media" writes/broadcast what it thinks to sell best. Cold reality is that Palin is more "sexy" than Obama. She looks better in front page pictures and has record of saying dumb things - which look good in frontlines. Mrs. Palin is gold mine for press. She is more worth of investment (in resources) than Obama.
Would I like to hear more about Obama's past? Yes. Would I like to hear more about Obama's dumb moments than Palin's? No. Why? Palin is more entertaining!
EDIT: I admit that I missed post #37 by AVGWarhawk when I wrote this comment
Tribesman
06-13-11, 01:18 PM
this is the best you have to say about it?
Indeed, as others have come up with very different takes than that blogger especially over her economic credentials her appearing to be a stuffed mouthpiece for certain interests and her seemingly thick as a plank views
I think you are wrong
You think she doesn't look incredibly dumb?
For a person who is a non-entity
She may be a non entity, but is she really a non entity in the American republican arena, she certainly gets enough positive and negative responses from the GOP as well as some crazy fanboy rants from the more nutty right wing media as well as some of the worlds biggest media who support her.
Come to think of it a load of high profile American "journalists" went on a rant this week when some foriegn politicians team said Palin wouldn't get given a meeting on a visit as she was seen as a joke.
Truly the fools are those that persist in following and looking to dig dirt.
Would you say that they are more foolish than those who promote this muppet?
BTW wasn't all this current e-mail story grown out of the story that she had been using private accounts for official e-mails to get around having to release it as official correspondance.
Media is not objective period
Personal or channels views will always float around.
Palin looks dumb and anachronic to most.?
Obama is sleek and charismatic and mainstream love him.
Media loves him.
Outcome -Palin gets some kicks because she deserve them then some more for the fun.
Obama will get some polite criticism.
AVGWarhawk
06-13-11, 02:16 PM
You think she doesn't look incredibly dumb?
She does not look dumb. She is good looking actually. As far as meaningful brain activity, yes sir, she is not the sharpest.
She may be a non entity, but is she really a non entity in the American republican arena, she certainly gets enough positive and negative responses from the GOP as well as some crazy fanboy rants from the more nutty right wing media as well as some of the worlds biggest media who support her.
This is true and something I have posted in the many threads concerning Palin. I have asked many times of those that continue to down play Palin, what is the attraction then if she is such a dope?
Come to think of it a load of high profile American "journalists" went on a rant this week when some foriegn politicians team said Palin wouldn't get given a meeting on a visit as she was seen as a joke.
No worries for Palin, her emails were top of the line news. I read a few articles about her emails of old. I heard nothing of foreign politicians having a pow-wow. :hmmm: People like possible smut from anyone in the limelight. Just today I got to see pictures of Congressman Weiner in his underwear holding the family jewels. Really, this was over some English muffins with butter. :doh: This crap sells.
Would you say that they are more foolish than those who promote this muppet?
No sir. She is a self promoter. The media helps though because it sells papers and creates ratings. It is similar to the opening of Al Capones vault by Heraldo. The anticipation was unbearable. The viewership astonishing. The vault was empty! Palin emails full of nothing but the anticipation was generated. The viewship astonishing.
BTW wasn't all this current e-mail story grown out of the story that she had been using private accounts for official e-mails to get around having to release it as official correspondance.
Not that I'm aware of. I know her personal account was hacked. Said hacker has been tried and convicted.
Bakkels
06-13-11, 02:32 PM
No worries for Palin, her emails were top of the line news. I read a few articles about her emails of old. I heard nothing of foreign politicians having a pow-wow. :hmmm: People like possible smut from anyone in the limelight. Just today I got to see pictures of Congressman Weiner in his underwear holding the family jewels. Really, this was over some English muffins with butter. :doh: This crap sells.
She planned on visiting Margaret Thatcher in the UK I heard, but Thatcher didn't want to see her. Thatcher's employees called Palin 'nuts', and said she wasn't interested in a meeting.
AVGWarhawk
06-13-11, 02:45 PM
She planned on visiting Margaret Thatcher in the UK I heard, but Thatcher didn't want to see her. Thatcher's employees called Palin 'nuts', and said she wasn't interested in a meeting.
I'm thinking Palin is nuts for just asking to see Thatcher. I can not say I blame Thatchers staff for saying just that!
I actually wanted them to find something that would remove her as a possible candidate. I think if she was smarter, she'd be great, but I wince every time she opens her mouth. :)
Still, I think they are going to excessive lengths compared to others who are actually candidates.
Again, I'm fine with them spending XXX man-hours on researching her as long as they do the same for other non-candidates, and some multiple for actual candidates.
Tchocky
06-13-11, 03:03 PM
These emails were requested a long time ago under FOIA, mostly when everyone was thinking "who the hell is Sarah Palin?" and a lot of stuff about Troopergate was flying around.
So, the release of them now is not exactly related to the media focus on her. That focus is due to her unusual quasi-campaigning and undeclared status in a lacklustre Republican field.
Naturally, I'd prefer if there wasn't so much attention paid to her without good reason, but a man can dream :03:
The fact that 20-odd thousand emails are being released is newsworthy enough and will be covered, seeing as how she seeks and pretends to avoid the spotlight incessantly.
Bakkels
06-13-11, 03:09 PM
By the way (slightly off topic), but whatever happened to McCain? Will he be running again? He might not be a spring-chicken anymore, but I got the feeling he was quite popular across the board.
Tribesman
06-13-11, 03:12 PM
Still, I think they are going to excessive lengths compared to others who are actually candidates.
That is answered by....
These emails were requested a long time ago under FOIA, mostly when everyone was thinking "who the hell is Sarah Palin?" and a lot of stuff about Troopergate was flying around.
Though it could be added that this FOI request was just one of nearly 2000 they made that year for official correspondance.
AVGWarhawk
06-13-11, 03:17 PM
By the way (slightly off topic), but whatever happened to McCain? Will he be running again? He might not be a spring-chicken anymore, but I got the feeling he was quite popular across the board.
He will not run again. He can not function a Blackberry. This was a prerequisite in the last race. :doh:
sidslotm
06-15-11, 04:41 PM
I cannot help but feel Palin will be in the oval office some day. She is under constant attack from all quarters, but she survives and continues on.
Buddahaid
06-15-11, 04:49 PM
I cannot help but feel Palin will be in the oval office some day. She is under constant attack from all quarters, but she survives and continues on.
Let's hope she's washing the floors then. :shucks:
When people complain about the media scutiny of Pailn, consider who she is: a charismatic figure with scattershot, extreme ideas; passing herself off as a folksy friend of the working class; constantly positioning herself as an outsider against "big government", a "maverick"; making broad statements with no specifics; surrounding herself with rabid supporters who themselves have particularly noxious sub-agendas; wrapping herself in the flag and virtually declaring herself and her followers as the only true patriots; relying more on fervid emotion than calculated, reasoned thought; replacing policy with slogans...
No, the media should not place Palin under a magnifying glass. After all, critical media scutiny probably wouldn't have helped in 1930's Munich...
There are times when I watch Palin making speeches or giving statements that I feel she might benefit from an admonition the nuns in my school used to give us: "It is better to be silent and mistaken as a fool than to open one's mouth and erase all doubt"...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-13-2011/pmail
AVGWarhawk
06-15-11, 06:16 PM
Let's hope she's washing the floors then. :shucks:
:haha:
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