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Gerald
06-04-11, 06:47 PM
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Hamas police officers, in front, and Egyptian soldiers blocked Palestinians from crossing into Egypt from Gaza on Saturday.

JERUSALEM — Israel on Saturday was bracing for possible clashes along its borders after Palestinian activists in the region called for protest marches on Sunday, three weeks after a similar wave of coordinated protests led to deadly clashes with Israeli troops.

Protests on Sunday to mark the anniversary of the Palestinian “naksa,” or setback, in the June 1967 Middle East war were being planned in the West Bank and Gaza, territories that were conquered by Israel then. There have also been calls on social networking Internet sites for Palestinians in Lebanon and Syria to march at the Israeli border.

That echoed the conditions that led to the violence on May 15, the day Palestinians mark as the “nakba,” or catastrophe, of Israel’s establishment in 1948. Taking a cue from the so-called Arab Spring movement, organizers in multiple countries and territories called for a coordinated action against Israel, and huge crowds of Palestinians responded.

They clashed with Israeli troops on four fronts, and breached the border between Syria and the Golan Heights for the first time in more than 30 years. At least 14 protesters from Lebanon and Syria were killed, stoking outrage in Palestinian camps across the region and intensifying pressure on Israel to create the conditions for a return to peace talks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/05/world/middleeast/05gaza.html?hp


Note: Published: June 4, 2011

Gerald
06-05-11, 05:59 AM
Israeli soldiers have opened fired on pro-Palestinian protesters in Syria as they marched on the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

Israel had vowed to prevent a repeat of a similar march last month, in which hundreds of people had managed to breach the border fence.

Witnesses said several people appeared to have been injured. Syrian state TV said four people had died.

The protesters were marking the 44th anniversary of the 1967 Mid-East war.

Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he would not allow "extremists" to breach Israel's borders.

"I have instructed our security forces to act with determination and restraint in order to protect our sovereignty our borders, towns and citizens," he said at the weekly cabinet meeting in Jerusalem.

But this did not deter several hundred demonstrators from moving on the razor-wired fencing and freshly dug trenches close to the frontier village of Majdal Shams in the Golan Heights at around noon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13660311


Note: Update Record, 5 June 2011 Last updated at 10:15 GMT

Tribesman
06-05-11, 07:46 AM
"I have instructed our security forces to act with determination and restraint in order to protect our sovereignty our borders, towns and citizens,"
What borders?:88)

Jimbuna
06-05-11, 07:58 AM
What borders?:88)

Sadly, that has always been the $million question.

Gerald
06-05-11, 09:47 AM
The entire region's more fragile than one paper, :damn:

MH
06-05-11, 09:49 AM
Who's idiot.

Armistead
06-05-11, 11:50 AM
Israel would be crazy to give up the Golan or Gaza in light of the new democracy, which is the freedom of radicals. Liberals in this country support such because they don't believe in the sovereignty of borders.

Gerald
06-05-11, 12:38 PM
The protesters were marking the 44th anniversary of the 1967 Mid-East war.

Several hundred demonstrators - Palestinians and their Syrian supporters - marched to the razor-wired fencing and freshly dug trenches close to the frontier village of Majdal Shams at around noon.

Many carried Palestinian flags and threw rocks and rubbish over the fence.

Israel's military said its soldiers shouted warnings in Arabic and fired warning shots in the air, before aiming at the legs of those who had reached the fence.

After live gunfire failed to disperse the crowds, Israeli troops fired volleys of tear gas over the border. Many people fled while others lay on the ground.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13660311

Note: Update Record,5 June 2011 Last updated at 16:29 GMT

Jimbuna
06-05-11, 01:05 PM
The entire region's more fragile than one paper, :damn:

Got me there with that comparison :hmmm:

Tribesman
06-05-11, 02:03 PM
Israel would be crazy to give up the Golan or Gaza in light of the new democracy, which is the freedom of radicals.

In case you missed it this particular incident is a sideshow to distract from a dictatorship murdering hundreds of people who were calling for democracy.
Liberals in this country support such because they don't believe in the sovereignty of borders.
It is hard to support the soveriegnty of borders in a case where they don't exist.
If however you can show the existance of a border there I will happily believe in your faith on the soveriegnty of borders.

yubba
06-05-11, 02:16 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/israeli-troops-battle-protesters-in-syria-20-dead/ Israeli troops kill 20 sunday today yesterday what ever. So it begins tic toc, yeah it will be a side show for all involved. Should, start a pool to see if the network news ABC NBC CBS will report on this tonight, on the the nightly news any, takers, I say they don't. Oh by the way who in their right minds celebrates defeat.

Gerald
06-05-11, 02:49 PM
Regrettably, that is, in this way :hmmm:

yubba
06-05-11, 05:56 PM
Well I stand corrected the net work news did run the Israel story, they did it grudgingly, but they did it. Now I must get back to sh3 warships mod.

Gerald
06-05-11, 06:17 PM
Well I stand corrected the net work news did run the Israel story, they did it grudgingly, but they did it. Now I must get back to sh3 warships mod.Good luck, :up:

Tribesman
06-06-11, 02:27 AM
Well I stand corrected the net work news did run the Israel story, they did it grudgingly, but they did it.
Its a conspiracy I tell ya:doh:

Gerald
06-06-11, 07:25 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/israeli-troops-battle-protesters-in-syria-20-dead/ Israeli troops kill 20 sunday today yesterday what ever. So it begins tic toc, yeah it will be a side show for all involved. Should, start a pool to see if the network news ABC NBC CBS will report on this tonight, on the the nightly news any, takers, I say they don't. Oh by the way who in their right minds celebrates defeat.

Right,Israeli troops fire on pro-Palestinian protesters on Syria's border in the occupied Golan Heights, with Syrian TV saying 20 are killed.

yubba
06-06-11, 10:39 AM
Right,Israeli troops fire on pro-Palestinian protesters on Syria's border in the occupied Golan Heights, with Syrian TV saying 20 are killed. I watched the 700 club this morning to see what spin they had on this story, I guess the protesters were pro's they were being paid a thousand dollars to be there and if they got killed the families would get ten thousand dollars plus they were bus there. State run media didn't want too talk about, that this morning.

MH
06-06-11, 11:01 AM
Israel to complain to UN over Syria incitement of border violence

Foreign Ministry spokesman says complaint will focus on Syria's 'manipulation of its own citizens' to foment Sunday's violent border clashes, in which Syria says 23 protesters were killed.

By DPA and Haaretz

Israel said on Monday that it will complain to the United Nations over what it said was Syria's use of demonstrators to challenge Israel's sovereignty, following violent clashes Sunday along the border between Syria and Israel in the Golan Heights.

The complaint would focus on Syria's "manipulation of its own citizens to generate violent incidents at the border," Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said. UN chief Ban Ki-moon said live Israeli fire had caused casualties and UN monitors were "seeking to confirm facts".
Israeli Civil Defence Minister Matan Vilnai said "you cannot reach the Syrian-Israeli border from the Syrian side without clear instructions and approvals from the government in Damascus."
http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.366274.1307347539!/image/3769353529.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_295/3769353529.jpgSyrian protesters throw stones at IDF forces near Quneitra on June 5, 2011.
Photo by: IDF spokesperson
Syria said on Monday that 23 people were killed in Sunday's "Naksa Day" rally, commemorating 44 years since the 1967 Six-Day War. Israel captured Syria's Golan Heights in that conflict, as well as the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
Official Syrian news agency SANA quoted Health Minister Wael al-Halki as saying the death toll included a woman and a child, adding that another 350 people suffered gunshot wounds.
The IDF said that since all the casualties were on the Syrian side of the border it was unable to provide an exact count, but it expressed great skepticism about the Syrian figures. Soldiers fired "with precision" at the bottom half of the bodies of the protesters, the army said.
Channel 10 reported that an initial IDF inquiry into Sunday's events found that up to ten Syrian protesters had been killed when Molotov cocktails which the protesters had been throwing set off an anti-tank minefield.
The army accused the Syrian government of creating a deliberate provocation in an effort to divert world attention from its ongoing bloody repression of pro-democracy protests at home.
Senior officials in Jerusalem placed the responsibility for Sunday's violence on the Syrian police.
"Syria is trying to divert attention from the massacre that [Syria] is carrying out against its citizens with the provocation on the border," a senior official said. "We sent messages in recent days to both Syria and Lebanon. Lebanon prevented the protests, but Syria decided to carry out a provocation."

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Jimbuna
06-06-11, 02:14 PM
I watched the 700 club this morning to see what spin they had on this story, I guess the protesters were pro's they were being paid a thousand dollars to be there and if they got killed the families would get ten thousand dollars plus they were bus there. State run media didn't want too talk about, that this morning.

First I've heard...any links?

Tribesman
06-06-11, 04:33 PM
First I've heard...
I am surprised at that take, I expected the 700 club to say the protesters were shot because Syria made a pact with the devil 200 years ago and the protesters were all supporters of abortion which is why god guided the bullets towards them:03:

Jimbuna
06-07-11, 02:41 AM
Actually I was watching day 4 of the England v Sri Lankan test but did see it on the 10pm news.

Wouls someone enlighten me on what the 700 club is?

Tribesman
06-07-11, 03:04 AM
Wouls someone enlighten me on what the 700 club is?
Evangelism 'R' us TV.
Terrorism attacks are because of gays and pagans, floods are because of abortions, earthquakes are from making a pact with he devil.....

Jimbuna
06-07-11, 03:46 AM
Evangelism 'R' us TV.
Terrorism attacks are because of gays and pagans, floods are because of abortions, earthquakes are from making a pact with he devil.....

Ah, right....wish I'd never bothered asking now :DL

MH
06-07-11, 06:48 AM
Ah, right....wish I'd never bothered asking now :DL

:rotfl2:

When talking about ME its more rational to take into account the non rational views.
The non rational people are in many cases more down to earth regarding ME that the "intellectual thinkers" who ignore irrational when ever its suits them ending with skewed (sometimes purposefully)view about irrational reality.
ME east is not compiled of intellectuals professors philosophers and university campuses after all ;)
People who sometimes seek analogy to the way they think and live-that is in the good case scenario.

I don't know what 700 club is but the tactics of paying people and families for becoming "shahids" was widely used by radical Muslims.
The cult of martyrdom is very rooted in some places as well.
There is really nothing new or shocking about it.

yubba
06-07-11, 07:17 AM
700 club ministries, Pat Robinson, I watch their news, they seem to be the only one to report on the middle east, and rest of the time they are beggin for money, if the network news would do their job instead of prop-ing up Obamannation, I wouldn't be watchin the holy rollers.

Gerald
06-07-11, 07:25 AM
Israel Braces for New Clashes as Protest Toll Climbs to 23...

http://www.newser.com/story/120269/israel-braces-for-new-clashes-as-protest-toll-climbs-to-23.html

Jimbuna
06-07-11, 11:30 AM
700 club ministries, Pat Robinson, I watch their news, they seem to be the only one to report on the middle east, and rest of the time they are beggin for money, if the network news would do their job instead of prop-ing up Obamannation, I wouldn't be watchin the holy rollers.

Nothing wrong with watching the programmes of your choice.

Tribesman
06-07-11, 11:39 AM
700 club ministries, Pat Robinson,
Pat Robinson...crazy loon.
they seem to be the only one to report on the middle east
So all the mainstream media outlets don't report on the middle east:doh:

if the network news would do their job instead of prop-ing up Obamannation
So all the mainstream news networks prop up Obama as well as not reporting on the middle east:doh:
Have you ever thought of simply watching Fox news? it is one of the biggest and funnily enough isn't quite as much of a joke as a network that thinks abortions influence the weather.:rotfl2:
Or perhaps have you thought of crawling back into the bottle to regain your previous clarity of thought when it comes to strange conspiracies.

Nothing wrong with watching the programmes of your choice.
Nothing wrong at all, however if someone gives reasons for their choice and they show no reasoning at all then its open season on their "reasons".

Gerald
06-07-11, 12:49 PM
A mosque in the West Bank has been attacked in the middle of the night.

A burning tyre was thrown into the mosque in the village of El Mughriah near Ramallah, and Hebrew graffiti was daubed on the walls.

Israeli and Palestinian officials said the attackers were Jewish settlers, retaliating for the dismantling of unauthorised Jewish settler housing nearby.

The Israeli army condemned the attack and said it was investigating.

Villagers said they awoke for morning prayers to find smoke billowing from their mosque.

The slogan "Price tag, Aley Ayin" was scrawled in Hebrew on the wall.

Aley Ayin was an unauthorised settler outpost, which the Israeli authorities cleared last week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13684157

Note: Update Record,7 June 2011 Last updated at 14:03 GMT

MH
06-07-11, 01:10 PM
Netanyahu condemns West Bank mosque attack as 'criminal act'

Mosque in village near Ramallah torched and sprayed with graffiti; Defense Minister Barak echoes PM's condemnation and says IDF will take steps to catch the perpetrators.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday condemned the suspected 'price tag' attack by settlers of a mosque in Maghayer village near Ramallah, calling it a "criminal act".
An initial investigation has shown that in the early morning hours of Tuesday the settlers rolled burning tires into the mosque, which caused some rugs to catch fire. The mosque was also sprayed with graffiti.
http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.366498.1307433158!/image/397710881.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_295/397710881.jpgThe damaged mosque in Maghayer, June 2011
Photo by: David Bachar
"I hope the arsonists will be located as soon as possible and will be punished accordingly," Netanyahu said, adding "this is a criminal act that is meant to provoke."
The prime minister emphasized Israel's commitment to freedom of expression, saying "Freedom of religion is a core tenet of the State of Israel, and we will take action against anyone who attempts to go against this principle."
Defense Minister Ehud Barak echoed the prime minister's condemnations, instructing the Israel Defense Forces and other security forces to take whatever steps necessary to catch the perpetrators of the attack.
"This deplorable act is detrimental to peace," Barak said. The defense minister expressed confidence that security forces would bring the arsonists to justice.
The village in which the attack took place is located near the Alei Ayin outpost, where the Israeli security forces demolished illegal structures last week. The police is investigating whether the two events are linked.
Civil rights organizations have spoken out against the arson as well. Rabbis for Human Rights said Tuesday that this kind violence threatens everyone and may backfire. "This despicable act goes against human morality and our Jewish belief that we must not harm followers of different religion," the organization said in a statement.
The Peace Now movement responded by calling for more decisive actions against violent settlers. "The Shin Bet security service and the police must uproot the 'hill youth' phenomenon," it said.
This condemnation has not, however, been universal. Rightist activist Itamar Ben-Gvir said the arson doesn't come as a surprise. "In the last few months Jewish blood has been spilled like water in Judea and Samaria," he said. "Instead of dealing with enemies, the police tears down one outpost after another. The feelings of anger and discrimination have their consequences."

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What?
No new thread?:D

Gerald
06-07-11, 01:17 PM
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What?
No new thread?:D This is in the same direction, so no new tread, is not relevant in my opinion :shucks:

Tribesman
06-07-11, 05:16 PM
This is in the same direction, so no new tread, is not relevant in my opinion
Just another "price tag", everyday occurances in the occupied territories.

MH
06-07-11, 06:18 PM
Just another "price tag", everyday occurances in the occupied territories.

It was a good day.
No D9s were used.:yawn:

Gerald
06-07-11, 06:20 PM
LOL :DL

Tribesman
06-07-11, 06:41 PM
It was a good day.
No D9s were used.
Yes dear, just another day with the illegal settlers putting another nail in the coffin of the Israeli state you claim to support.

MH
06-07-11, 06:54 PM
Yes dear, just another day with the illegal settlers putting another nail in the coffin of the Israeli state you claim to support.

Dear?
If you say so my bunny.
If that is the issue some must look really hard for an issue overlooking real issues.
I find it actually funny and somewhat interesting how everything revolves around settlements.
How convenient.

Kisses from Israel.
Peace.

Tribesman
06-07-11, 07:14 PM
If that is the issue some must look really hard for an issue overlooking real issues.
I find it actually funny and somewhat interesting how everything revolves around settlements.

Yes darling, isn't it funny how you are stuck without borders and the expansion of illegal settlements makes border agreements even less likely while at the same time they are bankrupting and further isolating the state.

MH
06-07-11, 07:31 PM
Yes darling, isn't it funny how you are stuck without borders and the expansion of illegal settlements makes border agreements even less likely while at the same time they are bankrupting and further isolating the state.

You ---- me not?:D
If we had no borders i would be talking to allah right now or maybe im?
Yeah yeah the isolation panic.
Nobody like us in the hood-pains in the ass.
Don't worry as soon as ME becomes liberal democracy and joins EU Israel will follow.

Yes current government plays it politicly wrong way.
Israel should show more that is trying to reach agreement to keep idiots happy.

Tribesman
06-08-11, 12:00 PM
If we had no borders i would be talking to allah right now or maybe im?

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Israel should show more that is trying to reach agreement to keep idiots happy.

The idiots are happy, they are jumping with joy, your government makes a point of keeping the idiots happy.

TLAM Strike
06-08-11, 12:05 PM
A new proposal to redraw the borders of Israel. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU&feature=player_embedded)

Gerald
06-08-11, 01:37 PM
As you say, "old news" :O:

Penguin
06-09-11, 05:48 AM
A new proposal to redraw the borders of Israel. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU&feature=player_embedded)

:har:
Only one point of criticism:
At 1:45 synagogues, mosques and churches pop up all across the middle east: what about us non-believers? I demand that they insert concert halls where Agnostic Front plays :DL