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Sorry Brits. Not all of us are bumpkins like our illustrious president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZCsfyaOGdw&feature=player_embedded
Betonov
05-25-11, 03:06 PM
So if I understand this right, the problem was when he continued to talk while God save the Queen was playing
Was any one alive there?
Besides Obama.
:D
papa_smurf
05-25-11, 03:23 PM
Could of been worse with Prince "one gaffe a minute" Philip:haha:
Haha, that was awkward. :haha:
AVGWarhawk
05-25-11, 03:56 PM
Haha, that was awkward. :haha:
Sure was!
Odd thing is...why was the anthem started when Obama was not finished with his toast? Looks to me like the band screwed up protocal!
Odd thing is...why was the anthem started when Obama was not finished with his toast? Looks to me like the band screwed up protocal!
Yeah, the band prolly thought the pause in Obama's speech was the actual end of the speech.
Or maybe Obama added something to the end, that wasn't in the original speech.
Dunno.
frau kaleun
05-25-11, 04:06 PM
Odd thing is...why was the anthem started when Obama was not finished with his toast?
They borrowed the band from the Oscars telecast. :O:
Obligatory:
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/090522-keyboardcat-hmed-9a.grid-6x2.jpg
Jimbuna
05-25-11, 04:16 PM
Haha, that was awkward. :haha:
Aye that.
Sure was!
Odd thing is...why was the anthem started when Obama was not finished with his toast? Looks to me like the band screwed up protocal!
I watched this live (sad bugga that I am) and that is the only reason I can think of.
I did notice she said something like "That's or your very kind" at the end of his speech though.
Guess we'll just have to wait until someone releases their memoirs before we find out.
I could be wrong but as far as I know the British press haven't picked up on it :hmmm:
Skybird
05-25-11, 04:19 PM
What poor sucker has pressed "Play" too early?
Castout
05-25-11, 04:28 PM
The fault is to whoever decided to play the music while US president was still in the middle of his toast speech.
What he did was an insult to a US president and hence to all Americans.
Right, that's it, give it back now. :shifty:
Funny, cause he usually kowtows to royalty.
Platapus
05-25-11, 05:09 PM
Regardless of who made the mistake, I hardly think that anyone was humiliated. :nope:
Tribesman
05-25-11, 05:30 PM
What he did was an insult to a US president and hence to all Americans.
yeah right:doh:
Platapus
05-25-11, 05:33 PM
What he did was an insult to a US president and hence to all Americans.
1. I am an American
2. I am not insulted
Therefore your hypothesis is false. :yep:
nikimcbee
05-25-11, 05:46 PM
Well, you get what you vote for.:woot:
Three cheers to our community organizer.
:woot::woot::woot:
kiwi_2005
05-25-11, 05:47 PM
Obama should of just sculled back his drink and yell 'This is sparta!!!! :O:
1. I am an American
2. I am not insulted
Therefore your hypothesis is false. :yep:
Agree on both counts. I'm quite good with it all...
Howard313
05-25-11, 05:48 PM
Looked like an honest mistake to me. These things get so blown out of proportion.
Regardless of who made the mistake, I hardly think that anyone was humiliated. :nope:
+1
if anything it was just minor bit of embarrassment for Obama, i doubt he'll lose any sleep over it.
Platapus
05-25-11, 05:51 PM
I am sure if you ask people at WHCA, these sort of mistakes happen at times.
Platapus
05-25-11, 05:52 PM
Agree on both counts. I'm quite good with it all...
Why did you entitle this thread Queen humiliates US President?
He may have been taught by Donald Trump, :O:
frau kaleun
05-25-11, 07:32 PM
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4227/user251195pic2207127593.jpg
:rotfl2:
:yeah:
Why did you entitle this thread Queen humiliates US President?
The title of the YouTube video:
Queen humilitates President Obama at Buckingham Palace by refusing toast - May 24 2011
I'd be more insulted as an American if be bowed to her. We fought a war with them so we would not have to do that.
FIREWALL
05-25-11, 10:14 PM
I'd be more insulted as an American if be bowed to her. We fought a war with them so we would not have to do that.
Yep :yep: No bowing and scrapeing. :haha:
Castout
05-25-11, 10:43 PM
yeah right:doh:
1. I am an American
2. I am not insulted
Therefore your hypothesis is false. :yep:
Good to hear then.
The incident is a matter of slighted ego and slighting the ego of the head of government on official visit is not actually a friendly gesture, purposely or otherwise. US president no less was made to look like a goof.
How would you feel if the same thing happened to you say in a friend's marriage party? When you're making toast speech a music is suddenly played and everyone stopped listening and you're forced into silence and embarasment.
If they aren't bothered doing that to US head of government then I guess that shows how they view the average Americans or US in general. Even when it was unintentional or was a mistake.
Yes it may seem like it was no big deal but it actually is a big deal because the head of government is involved here, and from a respected sovereign no less. But now if that kind of thing happened to Singapore head of state or government or any other crook government I'd apply for British citizenship.
On the otherhand a simple 'sorry' would suffice to ease Obama. He would need that.
Castout
05-26-11, 03:25 AM
Well watching CNN now I realize the Queen toasted after the Hymn.
I think the youtube clip was cut before that.
Not that bad at least not as bad as if the Queen didn't raise the glass afterwards :DL.
Tribesman
05-26-11, 03:47 AM
The incident is a matter of slighted ego and slighting the ego of the head of government on official visit is not actually a friendly gesture, purposely or otherwise. US president no less was made to look like a goof.
Not at all, the president made an error and the band made an error, no one was slighted and any supposed ego that fragile should be wrapped in cotton wool and locked in a dark place.
On the otherhand a simple 'sorry' would suffice to ease Obama.
Sorry for what??????????
Not that bad at least not as bad as if the Queen didn't raise the glass afterwards
That was the queen humiliating herself.
Simple protocol, do you understand any of it?
I'd be more insulted as an American if be bowed to her. We fought a war with them so we would not have to do that.
Bull.
Castout
05-26-11, 04:25 AM
Not at all, the president made an error and the band made an error, no one was slighted and any supposed ego that fragile should be wrapped in cotton wool and locked in a dark place.
Sorry for what??????????
Please understand the comments before you post,
For not raising the glass.
I thought no one raised their glass afterwards.
That was the queen humiliating herself.
Simple protocol, do you understand any of it?
Now that I really don't understand.
Well here you're not getting it. The queen is a traditional monarch while Obama is an eloquent politician. A traditionalist may weigh protocol more important than anything else much like the Catholic church emphasizing ritual over spirituality. But a politician would weigh people more important than any protocol. The band or whoever that started that hymn is the one to be blamed however because it started while Obama was still speaking and thus it was a rude interruption. it's not like he was going to start a long speech or anything. The conclusion? British monarch function are rigid and inflexible the opposite of most politician character that put people first than protocol when dealing in their business. Why? because politicians need to deal with pressing issues everyday that make them to have to deal with people in order to solve them. That is if they are real politicians and not some sorry ass dictators who rely on money, terror, torture, violence and assassinations.
Jimbuna
05-26-11, 05:03 AM
So when does the next war between the UK and US begin? :hmmm:
I'll give anyone good odds we still remain as close an ally to one another as has been the case for the past hundred years :know:
*Storm in a tea cup comes to mind*
Matador.es
05-26-11, 05:21 AM
So if I understand this right, the problem was when he continued to talk while God save the Queen was playing
Yes, i think thats the clue...
joegrundman
05-26-11, 05:22 AM
I'd be more insulted as an American if be bowed to her. We fought a war with them so we would not have to do that.
Chill dude, it was a while ago now, and it's time we became- how to put it -comfortable with the post-revolutionary reality.
Tribesman
05-26-11, 05:29 AM
Please understand the comments before you post,
I understand the comments, they don't make any sense though in relation to the events.
For not raising the glass.
At what point? when he toasts the queen or when he toasts the queen? the mistake was he did it twice and missed out on the simple order of things.
I thought no one raised their glass afterwards.
I think you didn't look.
Now that I really don't understand.
Simple protocol.
One person stood who shouldn't have, but at least she remembered not to drink the toast
Well here you're not getting it
Really? you seem well out of your depth.
Like for example..... The band or whoever that started that hymn
Hymn???????? national anthem, you know the tune that comes in when someone proposes a toast to the head of state.
it started while Obama was still speaking and thus it was a rude interruption.
Other way round, once he said five little words it was him who was interupting the band.
it's not like he was going to start a long speech or anything
Completely irrelevant.
The conclusion?
The conclusion you have is wrong, a formal function is a formal function
Matador.es
05-26-11, 05:37 AM
Title: Queen humiliates US President
i think its the other way around.... US president humiliates the Queen
Just thought about what Frank Drebbin would have done. Remember him? Police Squad, the Naked Gun?
At least Obama didn't take a leak with a radio microphone on!
I'd be more insulted as an American if be bowed to her. We fought a war with them so we would not have to do that.
Oh come on tater, that's just childish. :DL
Oh come on tater, that's just childish. :DL
Indeed, by that logic we should still be trying to shoot the German chancellor :O:
Torplexed
05-26-11, 06:13 AM
Indeed, by that logic we should still be trying to shoot the German chancellor :O:
Not to imagine what we would be doing to any current Japanese Prime Minister. :o Protocol seems a pain, but is the grease that keep the wheels of diplomacy going.
Tribesman
05-26-11, 06:23 AM
Protocol seems a pain, but is the grease that keep the wheels of diplomacy going.
Yes, though I am sure there was outrage when Reagan made his wife cover her head just so they could meet some head of state without offending protocols over religious sensiblities.
Takeda Shingen
05-26-11, 07:19 AM
So it appears that the protocol is that no one may toast before the Queen lifts her glass. What I see as the problem is that the individual on the White House staff who's job it is to brief the President in such matters as to avoid embarrassment did not do his or her job. Of course, the President's detractors will use this to attack him, as we have seen from individuals in his thread. To the rabid neo-conservative, this is not a mere error in the protocols of royal society; it is another sign of the Apocalypse as perpetrated by their hated political rival.
Soon, Mr. Camping. Soon. :roll:
onelifecrisis
05-26-11, 02:35 PM
Well IMO it was definitely the band who screwed up, not anybody else. The result was a mildly amusing moment of awkwardness, nothing more.
AVGWarhawk
05-26-11, 03:22 PM
So it appears that the protocol is that no one may toast before the Queen lifts her glass. What I see as the problem is that the individual on the White House staff who's job it is to brief the President in such matters as to avoid embarrassment did not do his or her job. Of course, the President's detractors will use this to attack him, as we have seen from individuals in his thread. To the rabid neo-conservative, this is not a mere error in the protocols of royal society; it is another sign of the Apocalypse as perpetrated by their hated political rival.
Soon, Mr. Camping. Soon. :roll:
So what you are saying is someone today has been added to the unemployment rolls somewhere in the DC area? :hmmm:
Takeda Shingen
05-26-11, 06:31 PM
So what you are saying is someone today has been added to the unemployment rolls somewhere in the DC area? :hmmm:
:haha:
The fault is to whoever decided to play the music while US president was still in the middle of his toast speech.
What he did was an insult to a US president and hence to all Americans.
Time too invade England then.
Sammi79
05-27-11, 07:58 AM
Time too invade England then.
Why not? everyone else did at some point in the past. Of course with it being unquestionably the 2nd most bestest country on the planet, I can see why this is the case. :O:
Jimbuna
05-27-11, 09:48 AM
Why only second? :hmmm:
Not enough sheep for your liking? :DL
Sammi79
05-27-11, 10:21 AM
...for one thing. Not enough leeks, daffodils or male voice choirs either. Also, there's not enough spit when you speak your native language. Before I forget, the single most mind bending sport in existence - 'Bog Snorkeling' was not invented in your land.
There. I think I've made my point. What do you think Daisy?
*BAAAaaaa*
And I think Daisy the sheep agrees.
although I'm not sure Daisy is her real name...
:D
Jimbuna
05-27-11, 11:27 AM
LOL your a BAAAaaaad boy :DL
AVGWarhawk
05-27-11, 12:32 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_c2JMsBM9-Sk/Rv7jJ0sHvZI/AAAAAAAAAkw/G4rTmVnjApQ/s1600/sheep.jpg
Jimbuna
05-27-11, 03:00 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_c2JMsBM9-Sk/Rv7jJ0sHvZI/AAAAAAAAAkw/G4rTmVnjApQ/s1600/sheep.jpg
Oh I can do better than that Chris and in GIF format but I reckon it would be deemed inappropriate :DL
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